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Link Posted: 2/8/2019 4:34:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mak0:

Yes the MSRP has increased
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Thank you.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 6:37:44 PM EST
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This is the most active B&T thread and I’m wondering if the X-Carry fits on the B&T USW-320?

The standard and compact do, so I’m assuming it does. That would be a nice SBR.

Cold Link:

https://www.bt-ag.ch/shop/eng/bt-usw/bt-polymer-lower-usw-320-for-sig-p320-bt-430174

Sorry for the hijack...
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 10:04:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CFFUTS23:
This is the most active B&T thread and I’m wondering if the X-Carry fits on the B&T USW-320?

The standard and compact do, so I’m assuming it does. That would be a nice SBR.

Cold Link:

https://www.bt-ag.ch/shop/eng/bt-usw/bt-polymer-lower-usw-320-for-sig-p320-bt-430174

Sorry for the hijack...
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P320 carry and compact use the same slide
Link Posted: 2/9/2019 7:52:06 PM EST
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So I recently got a ghm9 "Gen2" (Gen1 with hollow fix), wanted to check if anyone knew if the folding stock from the compact would fit a standard ghm9 "gen2"?

Link Posted: 2/9/2019 11:47:49 PM EST
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Anyone have a word on availability of the Glock USW conversions coming out?
Link Posted: 2/10/2019 1:35:02 AM EST
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just installed the geissele super APC trigger...having already known that the G trigger would change the trigger position, i had originally intended on simply swapping the springs to maintain the stock trigger position but with the lighter 2.75# pull. however, with the G trigger design the springs weren't a match - slightly shorter trigger spring. makes sense as the G trigger is slightly more rearward than stock.

that said, besides the known difference in position, the light trigger pull is excellent. definitely going to be a fast gun, much like the light pull SSP or SD3G triggers for AR's. i'm extremely happy with the pull weight now. while the trigger position is more rearward than stock, not a deal breaker for me. has a very clean single stage feel and short reset.

that about wraps up my "mods" for this gun: HBI right safety selector delete, HBI lighter safety springs, Geissele Super APC trigger.
not much else that can really be done to the gun itself at this point.

I know there is another thread about the G trigger being a "fail" due to the rearward positioning, but if you are looking for a light, crisp, short trigger - I'd highly recommend.
Link Posted: 2/10/2019 1:36:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By eastofwest556:
So I recently got a ghm9 "Gen2" (Gen1 with hollow fix), wanted to check if anyone knew if the folding stock from the compact would fit a standard ghm9 "gen2"?

https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/image/cache/data/GHM9%20Gen%202%20stock-228x175.png
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based on the description only being compatible with gen 2's - i'd say you'd need a true gen 2.

changing the feed ramp on the gen 1 makes it more of a gen 1.5 than a true gen 2.
Link Posted: 2/10/2019 3:55:29 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/10/2019 5:32:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By drago6:
Yeah, I need one of those (GHM 2 + tailhook brace)

this is the Gen 2 correct?
https://www.brownells.com/firearms/handguns/semi-auto/ghm9-pistol-9mm-1-30rd-mag-prod104753.aspx?avs%7cManufacturer_1=BzzxzzT%2bUSA
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Nope.  And even though I sent mine back and nicely asked them to clearly state it is a gen 1 on the website, they are still claiming it is a gen 2.
Link Posted: 2/10/2019 5:34:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:
based on the description only being compatible with gen 2's - i'd say you'd need a true gen 2.

changing the feed ramp on the gen 1 makes it more of a gen 1.5 than a true gen 2.
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Originally Posted By eastofwest556:
So I recently got a ghm9 "Gen2" (Gen1 with hollow fix), wanted to check if anyone knew if the folding stock from the compact would fit a standard ghm9 "gen2"?

https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/image/cache/data/GHM9%20Gen%202%20stock-228x175.png
based on the description only being compatible with gen 2's - i'd say you'd need a true gen 2.

changing the feed ramp on the gen 1 makes it more of a gen 1.5 than a true gen 2.
I believe that stock will fit a gen 1 in terms of the hinge and locking mechanism, but the nub on the stock won't have anywhere on the receivers to hook to so it won't stay folded.
Link Posted: 2/10/2019 5:41:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hammermill290:

Nope.  And even though I sent mine back and nicely asked them to clearly state it is a gen 1 on the website, they are still claiming it is a gen 2.
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Appreciate the heads up, I’ll look elsewhere
Link Posted: 2/11/2019 10:16:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By drago6:

Appreciate the heads up, I’ll look elsewhere
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check out Tar Heel State Firearms or Rainier Arms...both have the true Gen 2's. THSF has slightly better pricing I believe.
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 7:15:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By hammermill290:

I believe that stock will fit a gen 1 in terms of the hinge and locking mechanism, but the nub on the stock won't have anywhere on the receivers to hook to so it won't stay folded.
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I contacted B&T USA to inquire and this is what I was told. It will physically mount up and work fine but it will not lock in the closed position.
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 10:24:04 AM EST
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Does anyone know when B&T transitioned to the hollow point feed ramps in the Gen 1 guns?
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 11:33:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dissident:
Does anyone know when B&T transitioned to the hollow point feed ramps in the Gen 1 guns?
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mid to late 2016
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 12:47:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mak0:mid to late 2016
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You mean mid to late 2018. The GHM9 wasn’t even out in 2016.
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 1:01:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:
You mean mid to late 2018. The GHM9 wasn’t even out in 2016.
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Originally Posted By mak0:mid to late 2016
You mean mid to late 2018. The GHM9 wasn’t even out in 2016.
The first GHM9s came into the US in 2016. Shortly after that B&T redesigned the feed ramps to feed hollow points more reliably. Many of us referred to these as "gen 2" at the time, even though B&T never officially called them that. This is why there is some confusion when dealers list these as "gen 2" even though they really are "gen 1.5".

ETA: here is an article from August 2016 about the GHM9s being approved for import: http://aftermathgunclub.com/2016/08/26/bt-ghm9-kh9-approved-for-importation/
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 3:48:13 PM EST
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Has anyone sbr their GHM9 and converted the telescoping tailhook to a stock?  I see a B&T kit to do it.
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 3:51:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mak0:
The first GHM9s came into the US in 2016. Shortly after that B&T redesigned the feed ramps to feed hollow points more reliably. Many of us referred to these as "gen 2" at the time, even though B&T never officially called them that. This is why there is some confusion when dealers list these as "gen 2" even though they really are "gen 1.5".

ETA: here is an article from August 2016 about the GHM9s being approved for import: http://aftermathgunclub.com/2016/08/26/bt-ghm9-kh9-approved-for-importation/
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Those were never imported. 1st it was redesigned (made longer)...
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/21/new-ghm9-french-website/

Also, see here...
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/06/28/entry-level-bt-ghm9-redesign-finally-official/

And the HP fix info here...
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/04/20/ghm9-update/
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 6:21:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sleepygreen:
Has anyone sbr their GHM9 and converted the telescoping tailhook to a stock?  I see a B&T kit to do it.
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That’s what I plan to do. THSF sells it.
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 8:00:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:
Those were never imported. 1st it was redesigned (made longer)...
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/21/new-ghm9-french-website/

Also, see here...
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/06/28/entry-level-bt-ghm9-redesign-finally-official/

And the HP fix info here...
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/04/20/ghm9-update/
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:
Originally Posted By mak0:
The first GHM9s came into the US in 2016. Shortly after that B&T redesigned the feed ramps to feed hollow points more reliably. Many of us referred to these as "gen 2" at the time, even though B&T never officially called them that. This is why there is some confusion when dealers list these as "gen 2" even though they really are "gen 1.5".

ETA: here is an article from August 2016 about the GHM9s being approved for import: http://aftermathgunclub.com/2016/08/26/bt-ghm9-kh9-approved-for-importation/
Those were never imported. 1st it was redesigned (made longer)...
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/21/new-ghm9-french-website/

Also, see here...
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/06/28/entry-level-bt-ghm9-redesign-finally-official/

And the HP fix info here...
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/04/20/ghm9-update/
It was likely some time in 2017 before they really started showing up on dealer shelves because getting all the ATF and customs clearances can take a while, but production for the US market began in 2016 as evidenced by the 2016 serial number prefix on the first batch of guns. All of the guns with the first gen feedramps have 2016 serial number prefixes.
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 9:05:15 AM EST
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How is the cheek weld on the gen 2 folding stock?  Does it make full or lower 1/3 cowitness height optics line up with your eye better than the gen 1?
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 12:23:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Foofighter3:
How is the cheek weld on the gen 2 folding stock?  Does it make full or lower 1/3 cowitness height optics line up with your eye better than the gen 1?
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I like the Gen 2 cheek weld, I’ve got long arms and even with the Gen 2 stock being shorter than the Gen 1 it still feels more comfortable to me. I’ve not really noticed any difference when using my MRO.
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 10:26:30 PM EST
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Can someone explain the different telescoping stock lengths? Seems like there's a long and a short version. Do they have the same notches and different stops or different stops too?
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 11:08:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mak0:
It was likely some time in 2017 before they really started showing up on dealer shelves because getting all the ATF and customs clearances can take a while, but production for the US market began in 2016 as evidenced by the 2016 serial number prefix on the first batch of guns. All of the guns with the first gen feedramps have 2016 serial number prefixes.
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Wow, you’re hard headed!

Here’s a video of Tim Nickler from B&T stating the GHM9 with the HP fix will be available for order after Shot Show in 2018. Clearly you’re mistaken with your “mid to late 2016”. Give it up man!

Oops, forgot the link... Video proof
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 1:38:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bestiller:

The telescopic brace does not extend as far as the stock does. The brace rail extension “stops” are about 1 inch longer than the stock rail extension “stops”.

Stock Rail “Stops”

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59839/C3D290C5-9F3D-43EE-8C8B-8474072AFAF2_jpeg-716553.JPG

Brace Rail “Stops”

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59839/47FE8ECB-B99E-437A-B26A-FD482392F230_jpeg-716555.JPG
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Any idea where I can get the stock rail stops?
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 9:24:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Anyone have a word on availability of the Glock USW conversions coming out?
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They are on the B&T website; April shipping IIRC
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 9:26:28 PM EST
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Just ordered my Compact from THSF.  Engraved it and shipped it out on Friday.  That’s impressive.
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 9:48:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CFFUTS23:
Just ordered my Compact from THSF.  Engraved it and shipped it out on Friday.  That’s impressive.
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They are the best hands down IMHO.
Link Posted: 2/16/2019 11:02:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By dirtyharriett:

They are the best hands down IMHO.
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Absolutely!
Link Posted: 2/17/2019 3:11:34 PM EST
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Long time lurker, first time poster here.  I have been doing research for my first 9mm PCC and really like the reviews of the B&T GHM9, especially with the Gen-2 Glock magazine compatibility change.  I saw a video from TFBTV during SHOT Show 2019 and the B&T rep indicated the Glock lower would run around $500.  I don't want to shell out $1300 for the GHM9 and have to pay another $500 to use the Glock magazines.  Does anyone know if B&T will offer the GHM9 with the Glock lower already installed or will it only be an upgrade option?
Link Posted: 2/17/2019 3:21:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Northman11:
Long time lurker, first time poster here.  I have been doing research for my first 9mm PCC and really like the reviews of the B&T GHM9, especially with the Gen-2 Glock magazine compatibility change.  I saw a video from TFBTV during SHOT Show 2019 and the B&T rep indicated the Glock lower would run around $500.  I don't want to shell out $1300 for the GHM9 and have to pay another $500 to use the Glock magazines.  Does anyone know if B&T will offer the GHM9 with the Glock lower already installed or will it only be an upgrade option?
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From what I understood talking to my B&T dealer yesterday, it will be an upgrade option only for the GHM9 and APC9.

They are doing Glock and Sig P320 mag compatible lowers.
Link Posted: 2/17/2019 4:54:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By smiller4169:

From what I understood talking to my B&T dealer yesterday, it will be an upgrade option only for the GHM9 and APC9.

They are doing Glock and Sig P320 mag compatible lowers.
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While I like the idea of having a weapon platform that uses compatible magazines across the board, having to buy a separate $500 lower to do so makes it really expensive.  I really like the design of the GHM9 but $1800 for a 9mm pistol that accepts Glock magazines is a bit rich and it doesn't even come with a stock at that price.  Are any of you actually considering buying the Glock lower?
Link Posted: 2/17/2019 5:00:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Northman11:

While I like the idea of having a weapon platform that uses compatible magazines across the board, having to buy a separate $500 lower to do so makes it really expensive.  I really like the design of the GHM9 but $1800 for a 9mm pistol that accepts Glock magazines is a bit rich and it doesn't even come with a stock at that price.  Are any of you actually considering buying the Glock lower?
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Why would it come with a stock if it is a pistol? If it was an SBR would you even bee considering it?

I’m considering buying the Glock lower. At 45-50 per mag it starts to add up, and if you already shoot Glock, and have a ton if mags it really starts to make sense. Especially since you can drop Glock mags loaded or unloaded and be just fine, unlike the B&T mags
Link Posted: 2/17/2019 6:48:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Northman11:Are any of you actually considering buying the Glock lower?
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No, but despite what’s posted above, the “Pro” models will have those lowers stock. Then, if you don’t already have one, it makes much more sense.
Link Posted: 2/17/2019 8:19:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:
No, but despite what’s posted above, the “Pro” models will have those lowers stock. Then, if you don’t already have one, it makes much more sense.
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:
Originally Posted By Northman11:Are any of you actually considering buying the Glock lower?
No, but despite what’s posted above, the “Pro” models will have those lowers stock. Then, if you don’t already have one, it makes much more sense.
Will the GHM9 come with the Glock lower? I wouldn't mind having the compact with that lower
Link Posted: 2/17/2019 9:15:20 PM EST
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My new GHM9 Gen 2. Can't wait to get to the range.

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Originally Posted By CJofFL:
No, but despite what’s posted above, the “Pro” models will have those lowers stock. Then, if you don’t already have one, it makes much more sense.
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:
Originally Posted By Northman11:Are any of you actually considering buying the Glock lower?
No, but despite what’s posted above, the “Pro” models will have those lowers stock. Then, if you don’t already have one, it makes much more sense.
The “Pro” version is only the APC, there will not be a GHM9 Pro version. However, as they accept the same lowers, you can buy a Pro or Pro-G lower to put on the ghm9.

As to is anyone planning to buy one - I’m on the fence. It would be nice to have the glock capability but even if I do buy one I’d likely still use the standard version...why? 1) angle of glock mags for reload and 2) most importantly, the speed and ease of loading the B&T mags. With the speed loader i can easily load 2-3 mags per minute at a casual pace; and more mags if I speed up. glock mags on the other hand are more time/labor intensive, even with a “speed” loader like the uplula or standard glock loader (which I prefer between the two)... not a big deal when you’re shooting a mag or 2, but when you shoot volume makes a big difference
Link Posted: 2/18/2019 7:22:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By smiller4169:

From what I understood talking to my B&T dealer yesterday, it will be an upgrade option only for the GHM9 and APC9.

They are doing Glock and Sig P320 mag compatible lowers.
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Any source for this? First I've heard of a Sig p320 compatible lower, that would be pretty awesome IMO.
Link Posted: 2/18/2019 8:17:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By grn_zx6r:

Any source for this? First I've heard of a Sig p320 compatible lower, that would be pretty awesome IMO.
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Same here, I will see if I can rattle a tree and get some info.
Link Posted: 2/18/2019 1:12:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By grn_zx6r:Any source for this? First I've heard of a Sig p320 compatible lower, that would be pretty awesome IMO.
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Look close at this pic... http://www.gandrtactical.com/BampT-APC9-PRO-Pistol_p_1237.html
Link Posted: 2/18/2019 1:35:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:

Look close at this pic... http://www.gandrtactical.com/BampT-APC9-PRO-Pistol_p_1237.html
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I can confirm a P320 B&T lower is coming.
Link Posted: 2/18/2019 5:45:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CFFUTS23:

They are on the B&T website; April shipping IIRC
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Thanks Broseph!
Link Posted: 2/18/2019 6:48:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 73bulldog:
My new GHM9 Gen 2. Can't wait to get to the range.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7814/33255157148_4fbcb1f25f_b.jpg
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I like the folding brace on the gun............looks real good
Link Posted: 2/18/2019 8:37:49 PM EST
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Another +1 for Scott at THSF. Picked up a GHM9 today with 3 magazines and a collapsible brace for a very good price!
Link Posted: 2/18/2019 10:24:41 PM EST
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where did you get that version of a brace - looks great
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They make great braces...... I have two of his products and fully endorse them
Link Posted: 2/19/2019 4:33:19 PM EST
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They make great braces...... I have two of his products and fully endorse them
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They make great braces...... I have two of his products and fully endorse them
I wonder if this brace to stock conversion works on this.
If not, then I guess it goes on the EE when the form 1 clears. I feel the folding stock would work better for me than the telescopic brace/stock.
Link Posted: 2/19/2019 7:14:13 PM EST
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What are some good options for non-grip hand stops for the GHM9? I am going Aimpoint for the optic, so was wondering if there was some foreign goodness to match.
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