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Originally Posted By k31user: Saw a Gordon collar on gunbroker for $500. I have 50-60 of them in inventory for about 25% of that price. Some of the dealers advertising AEM5's for 1500 are going to be surprised when they try to order from me again. View Quote So you are saying the basically new OPS 12th I just sold out of my friends estate for $300, could have been listed on gunbroker for $1500?! |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By jeremywills: I happen to have a Ruger American in 5.56, 308, and 300 blk. Which one are you interested in and I need to know where to take the measurement at. View Quote 556 Idk, 16.1” barrel so the taper needs to be like 2.48” behind that, right? @jeremywills you da man |
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
Originally Posted By bigbore: Just a heads up - I've been seeing a bunch of what I assume are Chinese AE mounts lately. Both brakes and flash hiders. If you are using these things, it's pretty much a guarantee that you are going to carbon up the brake threads and have a hard time removing the suppressor. I'll be adding a disclaimer to my site tonight that our contour/collar service is only guaranteed to fit with genuine AE brakes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20220705_194519-2442882.jpg View Quote That wouldn't be an authentic brake you got from Ron and installed on a FDE 223 barreled bolt action, would it? |
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PSD has 12 AEM5s in stock right now
https://presampledepot.com/shop/allen-engineering-model-5-aem5-suppressor-knurled-2/ |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: Just a heads up - I've been seeing a bunch of what I assume are Chinese AE mounts lately. Both brakes and flash hiders. If you are using these things, it's pretty much a guarantee that you are going to carbon up the brake threads and have a hard time removing the suppressor. I'll be adding a disclaimer to my site tonight that our contour/collar service is only guaranteed to fit with genuine AE brakes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20220705_194519-2442882.jpg View Quote Is there an identifiable trait or measurement to identify a ChiCom AEMB copy? I am not worried about my AEMB brakes. I either sourced them from Capitol Armory or directly from “the man” himself Ron Allen. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By bigbore: Just a heads up - I've been seeing a bunch of what I assume are Chinese AE mounts lately. Both brakes and flash hiders. If you are using these things, it's pretty much a guarantee that you are going to carbon up the brake threads and have a hard time removing the suppressor. I'll be adding a disclaimer to my site tonight that our contour/collar service is only guaranteed to fit with genuine AE brakes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20220705_194519-2442882.jpg View Quote What makes you think they're Chinese? |
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Let’s talk non traditional hosts. Anyone have some budget (Ruger American) bolt guns that can mic the barrel and see if it’s thick enough to profile instead of adding a collar? Not trying to be like @outrider with a custom 223 bolt gun toy Ron: is there a specific minimum barrel diameter you’d recommend? View Quote I have a spare 700 receiver on the shelf. I'd like to do a remage 12" 6.5G for my m24 can but don't feel like doing a form 1. Maybe I'll just grab a bighorn action, maybe I'll just go with 16", but I'll get around to it eventually. |
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Originally Posted By Shlouf: I have a spare 700 receiver on the shelf. I'd like to do a remage 12" 6.5G for my m24 can but don't feel like doing a form 1. Maybe I'll just grab a bighorn action, maybe I'll just go with 16", but I'll get around to it eventually. View Quote I was very happy with the Bighorn Origin action. Having prefit barrels makes it a breeze too to not fiddle with barrel nut timing/headspacing. |
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View Quote So awesome! |
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View Quote Niiice. Is that a Gordon can? I'd love one of those. |
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Not a Tennessee Squire
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Anyone own the trifecta- aem5, Gordon and m24? I hope to own all 3 someday. Have the aem5 already, started picking up small parts for a Gordon build, and been itching for a m24a2 as I love cloning but getting board with the ar platform. Hoping to maybe pick up something out of the next batches that come out.
I’m curious how the sound comparison is between the three, obviously a lot of variables being the barrel lengths, bolt to semi and 5.56 to 7.62. |
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Originally Posted By bimmertech87: Anyone own the trifecta- aem5, Gordon and m24? I hope to own all 3 someday. Have the aem5 already, started picking up small parts for a Gordon build, and been itching for a m24a2 as I love cloning but getting board with the ar platform. Hoping to maybe pick up something out of the next batches that come out. I’m curious how the sound comparison is between the three, obviously a lot of variables being the barrel lengths, bolt to semi and 5.56 to 7.62. View Quote Hopefully in the next 4 months I'll have 2 of the 3. I agree about expanding into more then just ARs. I need to learn more about this m24 I think |
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I shoot my .22’s more than anything else by a landslide but still continue to collect clone stuff. I shoot my mk12.1 every once in a while just because I love shooting with the suppressor. I’d imagine a bolt gun would be pretty sweet. I’ve kicked around the idea of a .223 700 for my aem5 but would rather just build a m24a2. I’d already have parts for it if money wasn’t so tight lately.
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Originally Posted By Outrider: I’ve become bored with the AR the past few years. A bolt gun with an AE can is pure bliss. View Quote Is Ron still making custom collars? I have no desire to profile a bolt gun to a skinny SPR profile and my .223 isn’t fat enough for the 0.92” tapered shoulder. |
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Originally Posted By Embittered: Is Ron still making custom collars? I have no desire to profile a bolt gun to a skinny SPR profile and my .223 isn’t fat enough for the 0.92” tapered shoulder. View Quote So... What's the issue? I just had a defiance action with a 223 barrel on it currently, profiled for one of my AEM5. Cost is kinda minimal and like someone else said a bolt 223 with Ron's can is exquisite. |
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All you have to do is turn the barrel down just enough to create a shoulder for a collar. Measure your barrel at 3.02 behind the muzzle and I can make you a collar that's .010 smaller. Just take a small clearance cut 2.53" back and then machine the area between 2.53 and 3.02 to the size of the collar ID. (for an AEM5).
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"Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense" -UCMJ ART. 125
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Originally Posted By Embittered: Is Ron still making custom collars? I have no desire to profile a bolt gun to a skinny SPR profile and my .223 isn’t fat enough for the 0.92” tapered shoulder. View Quote Ron has made me a collar and Adco just chopped, threaded, contoured and made a collar for another build. |
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Originally Posted By Texas97: So... What's the issue? I just had a defiance action with a 223 barrel on it currently, profiled for one of my AEM5. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Texas97: So... What's the issue? I just had a defiance action with a 223 barrel on it currently, profiled for one of my AEM5. .749 is a little small for my taste on a bolt gun. Originally Posted By k31user: All you have to do is turn the barrel down just enough to create a shoulder for a collar. Measure your barrel at 3.02 behind the muzzle and I can make you a collar that's .010 smaller. Just take a small clearance cut 2.53" back and then machine the area between 2.53 and 3.02 to the size of the collar ID. (for an AEM5). It’s about .86”, but it’s some kind of taper profile. |
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Probably use a .850 ID Remington collar
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Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America!
MI, USA
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Looking to start a bolt gun with a m24 suppressor when the next batch is ready. What kind of barrels are you guys using that’s thick enough to be contoured for the can? What’s the minimum diameter the barrel needs to be to be contoured and still have enough meat on the bone? Brand new to these bolt guns so any help or direction would be much appreciated.
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: Looking to start a bolt gun with a m24 suppressor when the next batch is ready. What kind of barrels are you guys using that’s thick enough to be contoured for the can? What’s the minimum diameter the barrel needs to be to be contoured and still have enough meat on the bone? Brand new to these bolt guns so any help or direction would be much appreciated. View Quote http://aesuppressors.com/images/2230detail.jpg an extra 2" of reflex for the m24 can depends on how long of a barrel you want for how heavy of a contour you will need |
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Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America!
MI, USA
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Originally Posted By Shlouf: http://aesuppressors.com/images/2230detail.jpg an extra 2" of reflex for the m24 can depends on how long of a barrel you want for how heavy of a contour you will need View Quote Was planning on a 24” barrel. |
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Bartlein Heavy Palma or any Target/Straight Taper contour other than #5 gets you the ~0.920” after the 20 degree taper.
Bartlein contours |
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@k31user I sent you a PM
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Originally Posted By Embittered: Bartlein Heavy Palma or any Target/Straight Taper contour other than #5 gets you the ~0.920” after the 20 degree taper. Bartlein contours View Quote “Current lead time are 12-14 months”. Damn it. |
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Originally Posted By goloud: “Current lead time are 12-14 months”. Damn it. View Quote @goloud What exactly are you looking for? A Bartlein M24 blank in .30 cal will not be hard to find: http://www.bugholes.com/product-p/x-30cal-10tw-ss-m24-27.htm, https://www.bulletcentral.com/product/bartlein-barrel-ss-308-cal-b14-m24-10-twist-29-blank-5r/ You'll need to send your action and the blank to a smith if you're working off a factory R700 action. |
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Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America!
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Originally Posted By Embittered: @goloud What exactly are you looking for? A Bartlein M24 blank in .30 cal will not be hard to find: http://www.bugholes.com/product-p/x-30cal-10tw-ss-m24-27.htm, https://www.bulletcentral.com/product/bartlein-barrel-ss-308-cal-b14-m24-10-twist-29-blank-5r/ You'll need to send your action and the blank to a smith if you're working off a factory R700 action. View Quote That barrel is only .900 @ 26" continued taper but says it’s a m24 barrel…I’m confused. Shouldn’t it be at least .920 if it were a m24 barrel? @k31user also sent you an email. Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By Embittered: @goloud What exactly are you looking for? A Bartlein M24 blank in .30 cal will not be hard to find: http://www.bugholes.com/product-p/x-30cal-10tw-ss-m24-27.htm, https://www.bulletcentral.com/product/bartlein-barrel-ss-308-cal-b14-m24-10-twist-29-blank-5r/ You'll need to send your action and the blank to a smith if you're working off a factory R700 action. View Quote Sweet! Thanks. I rescind my outrage. |
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: That barrel is only .900 @ 26" continued taper but says it’s a m24 barrel…I’m confused. Shouldn’t it be at least .920 if it were a m24 barrel? @k31user also sent you an email. Thanks! View Quote I think it tapers down to .900 at 26”. So cutting it at 18-22” will be at least .920”. |
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Bugholes provided me a nice barrel but they totally missed the barrel profile taper dimension.
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Oh I’m sorry, I thought this was America!
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