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Posted: 10/5/2016 8:23:48 PM EDT
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When I first started carrying, it was either OWB crossdraw or shoulder. Either could be worn under an open jacket and easily reached, whether standing or sitting. Either could be gotten at with either hand. Of course, we weren't all tier 1 tactical toms back then. It was about having a pistol ready and accessible. I quit the crossdraw because it stuck out too far (revolver), and would 'flash' if the jacket swung too far open. These days, I'm much more tactical, and wear an expensive IWB composite at 4 o'clock. Where that shitty crossdraw forced me to reach across my gut with only an arm movement, even sitting or driving, my new cool guy rig allows me to torque my whole upper body around dramatically in order to get a good firing grip. Unless I'm wearing a jacket and sitting or driving, in which case, I either take it out or forget about hauling it when needed. Bullshit aside, there are valid reasons for crossdraw or it wouldn't have lasted 100+ years as a carry position. We tend to forget in these uber-tacticool days that people were carrying and killing with old school guns and holsters for a very long time before our modern methods retconned them all into being useless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are sitting all day and need to draw while seated would be one reason. This. Precious few holsters seem designed with the notion that the wearer might sit down at some point. Crossdraw works, but it doesn't conceal particularly well from what I've seen. When I first started carrying, it was either OWB crossdraw or shoulder. Either could be worn under an open jacket and easily reached, whether standing or sitting. Either could be gotten at with either hand. Of course, we weren't all tier 1 tactical toms back then. It was about having a pistol ready and accessible. I quit the crossdraw because it stuck out too far (revolver), and would 'flash' if the jacket swung too far open. These days, I'm much more tactical, and wear an expensive IWB composite at 4 o'clock. Where that shitty crossdraw forced me to reach across my gut with only an arm movement, even sitting or driving, my new cool guy rig allows me to torque my whole upper body around dramatically in order to get a good firing grip. Unless I'm wearing a jacket and sitting or driving, in which case, I either take it out or forget about hauling it when needed. Bullshit aside, there are valid reasons for crossdraw or it wouldn't have lasted 100+ years as a carry position. We tend to forget in these uber-tacticool days that people were carrying and killing with old school guns and holsters for a very long time before our modern methods retconned them all into being useless. I'm guessing there are several reasons but they still work cops have wayyyyyy more stuff to hang off their belt and it was in the way With a semi you carry your mags there or close and it could interfere I have shot out of them and have no problems. One of Galco's more popular woods holsters the DAO can be worn strong side or cross draw. It's a great holster. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 8:27:51 PM EDT
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho?  It's faster sitting down. If she is always at the desk it would be just as beneficial as if she was in her car. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 8:44:02 PM EDT
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You arrest a guy and your car has no cage. You put him in the front passenger seat. That way you can protect your gun, and he can't grab it. That's how it used to be done. Sitting down, shoulder injury, lots of reasons. Bingo .... bad shoulder. Also cross draw is very efficient and easy |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 9:06:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm guessing there are several reasons but they still work
cops have wayyyyyy more stuff to hang off their belt and it was in the way With a semi you carry your mags there or close and it could interfere I know this isn't practical in many/most situations, but I really like the chest mounted holsters usually seen on military rigs. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 9:46:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI have that same gun & holster. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 10:03:59 PM EDT
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Sitting in a car? Bingo Galco used to make a holster specifically for car use. it was a sort of crossdraw that secured to the lap belt. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 10:13:15 PM EDT
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Confuse the enemy.
"Wait, what the . . . . ?" Bang! |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 10:15:02 PM EDT
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SOP says I have to carry my taser opposite my lethal, so I run corssdraw instead of weakhand holster
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Posted: 10/5/2016 10:15:34 PM EDT
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Because it looks bad ass. See, when you shoot someone, you gotta pull it out all dramatic like. That's why the pros never carry a loaded round (Israeli Mossad FYI), so you can rack the slide with lots of noise. That tells the dude you're about to waste that you mean business and that guy really fucked up. Don't listen to these panty waist choads that are all "Condition 1" (Whatever that means). Condition 1 is when you're ready to waste a fool no questions asked. Preach it! |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 10:20:26 PM EDT
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Cross draw facilitates a more natural draw to properly aim and fire
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Posted: 10/5/2016 10:22:11 PM EDT
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I carry cross draw IWB. Bring it. At 7 o'clock? |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 10:52:21 PM EDT
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Because that's how Doc rolled.....I'm your huckleberry.
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Posted: 10/5/2016 10:59:21 PM EDT
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Sitting, obstructed strong side, more comfortable, maybe bulkier arms, shoulders than you, maybe an injury, or flexibility issues, etc?
Maybe they just like it better? Not everyone is you. Assuming everything you do is as easy or as comfortable for someone else is a BIG problem with most of the folks on this site. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 11:04:34 PM EDT
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pretty much the best way to draw from a seated position. especially with a seatbelt in the way
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Posted: 10/5/2016 11:13:35 PM EDT
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I like cross draw OWB
For me it's more natural and I can hide a bigger gun Besides, Homer likes it too 
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Posted: 10/5/2016 11:22:30 PM EDT
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And Chuck Norris carried crossdraw in earlier "Walker, Texas Ranger" shows. And in the movie where he rose from the dead in his buried truck. Paladin That movie is Lone Wolf McQuade Learn it Know it Love it |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 11:31:41 PM EDT
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Comfort. Seating. Driving. Easy of drawing. Security(harder for someone to snatch it away)
I dont think they're dangerous holsters unlike most people. The danger comes from the user and you can draw a pistol crossdraw without sweeping someone. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 11:42:52 PM EDT
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Bought the wrong holster, and too cheap to buy a new one? Thinking outside the box I see. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 11:48:33 PM EDT
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Could have been taser. They are carried like that so it takes a way different motion to draw them compared to a side arm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Could have been taser. They are carried like that so it takes a way different motion to draw them compared to a side arm. I noticed this watching AK state troopers. |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:01:30 AM EDT
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There is, or at least was as of last year, guy on my department who carries a .38 stainless steel wheel gun in a crossdraw rig on his duty belt. A few others still have .38s but all carry strong side.
They just say they are 'grandfathered in' although the policy and equipment documents make no such distinction whatsoever and quite clearly require modern level 3+ retention holsters  |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:02:48 AM EDT
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You arrest a guy and your car has no cage. You put him in the front passenger seat. That way you can protect your gun, and he can't grab it. That's how it used to be done. Sitting down, shoulder injury, lots of reasons. Crossdraw is my favorite due to limited range of motion in my arms. I find it very comfortable, and it doesnt have the tendency to snag against objects you brush up against. Like appendix carry, you cant have a big ole gut hanging out to pull it off. |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:03:18 AM EDT
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Cross draws are favored by folks who sit in patrol cars. Provided they're not strapped in with a seat belt, it's easier to get out of the holster for them.
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:06:34 AM EDT
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It's the correct way to wear your Serpa holster when carrying your Taurus Judge
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:09:12 AM EDT
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You're a daisy if you do
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:20:32 AM EDT
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I find that crossdraw conceals better than strong-side, and is less annoying than appendix carry. Of course, all of that depends on gun, holster, body type, etc. YMMV.
PS. I also own one of those gimmicky holsters that allows you to carry a fullsize auto way up in your armpit. Almost never use the thing, but if I ever had an urge to CCW a handcannon, it would obviously have to be on the weak side. |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:22:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're a daisy if you do http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WDghMFFaouQ/UFsiQHgJoKI/AAAAAAAADuk/-dRXu1gxC_M/s1600/42125_franchise_icon0006.jpg  So, this. Say when. |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:25:16 AM EDT
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People who wear it have a death wish is the only good reason I can give.
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:27:05 AM EDT
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That movie is Lone Wolf McQuade Learn it Know it Love it Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And Chuck Norris carried crossdraw in earlier "Walker, Texas Ranger" shows. And in the movie where he rose from the dead in his buried truck. Paladin That movie is Lone Wolf McQuade Learn it Know it Love it Didn't somebody crawl out from a buried bus or something in WTR, as well? |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:43:43 AM EDT
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Every swinging dick in "The Walking Dead" seems to carry in a crossdraw holster.
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Posted: 10/6/2016 9:39:38 AM EDT
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I carry cross draw IWB. Bring it. Hers was OWB on the hip. I would have no problem with a cross draw IWB appendix. |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 12:47:55 PM EDT
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Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Seeing as how I ain't done already seen that person I reckon she does it for the same reason that my GSD licks his own pecker. It's mainly on account of because he can and he don't care what anybody else thinks. 
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Posted: 10/6/2016 3:20:24 PM EDT
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Didn't somebody crawl out from a buried bus or something in WTR, as well? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And Chuck Norris carried crossdraw in earlier "Walker, Texas Ranger" shows. And in the movie where he rose from the dead in his buried truck. Paladin That movie is Lone Wolf McQuade Learn it Know it Love it Didn't somebody crawl out from a buried bus or something in WTR, as well? I have no idea but I bet it wasn't as awesome as a half dead Chuck Norris dumping a coors on his head and then hitting the supercharger on his ramcharger and driving out of being buried. There is only one Lone Wolf McQuade |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 4:28:44 PM EDT
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Hers was OWB on the hip. I would have no problem with a cross draw IWB appendix. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I carry cross draw IWB. Bring it. Hers was OWB on the hip. I would have no problem with a cross draw IWB appendix. I don't see what the problem is with OWB. |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 5:02:54 PM EDT
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I don't see what the problem is with OWB. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I carry cross draw IWB. Bring it. Hers was OWB on the hip. I would have no problem with a cross draw IWB appendix. I don't see what the problem is with OWB. Seems it would be easy to sweep people and for a criminal, it would be easier to get a jump on the person cross drawing. |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 5:10:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2016 6:19:48 PM EDT
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Years back, maybe the mid-seventies, I saw some San Antonio cops carrying cross draw.
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Posted: 10/6/2016 6:28:59 PM EDT
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I have no idea but I bet it wasn't as awesome as a half dead Chuck Norris dumping a coors on his head and then hitting the supercharger on his ramcharger and driving out of being buried. There is only one Lone Wolf McQuade Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And Chuck Norris carried crossdraw in earlier "Walker, Texas Ranger" shows. And in the movie where he rose from the dead in his buried truck. Paladin That movie is Lone Wolf McQuade Learn it Know it Love it Didn't somebody crawl out from a buried bus or something in WTR, as well? I have no idea but I bet it wasn't as awesome as a half dead Chuck Norris dumping a coors on his head and then hitting the supercharger on his ramcharger and driving out of being buried. There is only one Lone Wolf McQuade It was a great spaghetti western. Walker, Texas Ranger is pretty much the sequel. I really liked his cut down Auto-5. |
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Posted: 10/6/2016 6:46:50 PM EDT
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Shoulder problem, or some other orthopedic issue that makes drawing from a strong side holster more difficult, would be a reason. Some people want better access to the firearm with either hand would be another reason.
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Posted: 10/7/2016 2:25:48 AM EDT
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Seems it would be easy to sweep people and for a criminal, it would be easier to get a jump on the person cross drawing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I carry cross draw IWB. Bring it. Hers was OWB on the hip. I would have no problem with a cross draw IWB appendix. I don't see what the problem is with OWB. Seems it would be easy to sweep people and for a criminal, it would be easier to get a jump on the person cross drawing. How do you figure a holster that is usually closer to the front of you makes it easier to get jumped?? As far as sweeping people, anything except straight up and down does that at some point or another. |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 2:28:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sitting in a car? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Stopped to get a money order to pay my $169 speeding ticket and while at the desk I seen a county cop carrying cross draw. She had the pistol on her left side orientated to draw with her right hand. I just couldn't think of a good scenario for this carry. Y tho? Sitting in a car? If someone came to the drivers window I can sneak the gun out and shoot through the door if I had to. Try getting the gun out of your right side and no one seeing it. |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 2:54:40 AM EDT
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You can still draw with your weak hand if your strong hand is doing something else.
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Posted: 10/7/2016 2:59:29 AM EDT
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If you are sitting all day and need to draw while seated would be one reason. Then you are better off with a chest holster. |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 8:49:31 AM EDT
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If you are sitting all day and need to draw while seated would be one reason. This, obviously |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 8:55:23 AM EDT
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Because it looks bad ass. See, when you shoot someone, you gotta pull it out all dramatic like. That's why the pros never carry a loaded round (Israeli Mossad FYI), so you can rack the slide with lots of noise. That tells the dude you're about to waste that you mean business and that guy really fucked up. Don't listen to these panty waist choads that are all "Condition 1" (Whatever that means). Condition 1 is when you're ready to waste a fool no questions asked. Shin Bet, not Mossad 
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Posted: 10/7/2016 9:17:46 AM EDT
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Bought the wrong holster, and too cheap to buy a new one? Same holster used in cross draw...but good attempt at some humor. |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 9:17:47 AM EDT
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Cause that's how Augustus McCrae did it so he could wack a surly bartender if he needed to.
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Posted: 10/7/2016 9:29:41 AM EDT
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In addition to the really good reasons for when a person is seated, it also has some advantages when being hands on with someone trying to hurt you. It's a little easier to get to a gun crossdraw while protect yourself than trying to get the gun hand back to 3oclock while said person is punching or stabbing or whatever. It's all really really bad, of course. Preferable to not be in that situation.
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Posted: 10/7/2016 9:46:36 AM EDT
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Yep, if sitting all day crossdraw works well.
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Posted: 10/7/2016 9:50:18 AM EDT
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Seems it would be easy to sweep people and for a criminal, it would be easier to get a jump on the person cross drawing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I carry cross draw IWB. Bring it. Hers was OWB on the hip. I would have no problem with a cross draw IWB appendix. I don't see what the problem is with OWB. Seems it would be easy to sweep people and for a criminal, it would be easier to get a jump on the person cross drawing. Angle is similar to strong side OWB concealment holster, the gun is just inverted. Sweep is the same. If your gun is in front then I'd expect you would see them coming if they were going for it, and in a crossdraw rig you can get both/either of your hands on it in the case someone does try to snatch it. Plus, as been said, it looks cool. Nothing says "fuck you punk" like blading at 45, pulling aside your jacket to clear your rig with a steely eyed wolfstare. Womens panties literally fall to the floor, and the guy at the gas station that was about to ask you for directions will pee himself. |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 10:01:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: this...I actually have a cross draw holster that is made specifically for long driving trips... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you are sitting all day and need to draw while seated would be one reason. this...I actually have a cross draw holster that is made specifically for long driving trips... In the winter I usually switch back to my 1911 in a vertical shoulder holster for car trips more than a couple hours. Or if i'm wearing cargo pant's i'll have my P938 in the right cargo pocket to draw sitting and have my G19 IWB/OWB. |
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