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Link Posted: 10/13/2015 12:50:07 PM EDT
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Yeah but 9mm doesn't suppress as nice as .45acp


You're right, it suppresses better.


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Ever notice that hearing safe 9mm cans are a lot smaller than hearing safe .45 cans?  There's also the undeniable fact that the smaller the bore, the better it suppresses.
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Is there a factory 1911 available that I won't have to

A. Spend tons of money to get in the first place

B. Spend tons of money to get it to run right without jamming?

Because I want a 1911, but the G19 is just so simple and easy, but 'Merica says I need 1911.
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Of course. New Colts run great, they are $700. 'murica!

 
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 12:54:14 PM EDT
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Actually 'Merica says get both!  

Link Posted: 10/13/2015 1:02:03 PM EDT
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Is there a factory 1911 available that I won't have to
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Because I want a 1911, but the G19 is just so simple and easy, but 'Merica says I need 1911.
Of course. New Colts run great, they are $700. 'murica!  


How are the XSE models?
I quite like the idea of a full size Colt as my nightstand gun.
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well since this is arfcom I would say a Wilson, Ed Brown, or at very least a Springfield Pro. All others will fail you and may likely get you killed.
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Is there a factory 1911 available that I won't have to
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B. Spend tons of money to get it to run right without jamming?
Because I want a 1911, but the G19 is just so simple and easy, but 'Merica says I need 1911.
Of course. New Colts run great, they are $700. 'murica!  

I've ran a magazine of Golden Sabers through the Series 80 (pictured on page 1) without a hiccup! ($.75 a round to reload so I'm being frugal with'em )
Ran hundreds of FMJ RN, wadcutters and hardcast and all have fed perfect, so far (all 230 gr.)
Have had zero work done to it. I trust it, along with those Golden Sabers (all positive feedback on feeding through a 1911), with my life


The total on the Series 80 from grabagun was <$700 last year
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 1:13:48 PM EDT
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Get both:

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I had the same criteria and went with a Ruger SR1911 Night Watchman.  Works pretty well.  Series 70 type system as well.

Added a threaded barrel from another manufacturer and it still works pretty well, just quieter with that other thing that goes on the end.
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All mine have been pretty reliable.

I spent 35 dollars once on a new extractor due to the factory one being bummed.

1/8 isn't so bad

Springfield TRP was 100% out of the box until this day. Still no issues.
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Funny that the Brits were using that bullet to kill Nazis pretty effectively.  And in a gun pretty much designed by The Creator Of The .45.


Also, metric rounds tend to kill tanks pretty good.  120mm smoothbore's pretty effective.
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We have a higher power on our side, we don't need no stinkin capacity. You just keep using that Nazi bullet if you like it so much

Wake me up when your metric round kills a tank

http://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M4166947cace79965af67360820bda5efo2&w=277&h=149&c=7&rs=1&qlt=90&o=4&pid=1.1


Funny that the Brits were using that bullet to kill Nazis pretty effectively.  And in a gun pretty much designed by The Creator Of The .45.


Also, metric rounds tend to kill tanks pretty good.  120mm smoothbore's pretty effective.


I think we faired a bit better than them since we used .45 ACP

Britain WW2

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You're right, it suppresses better.


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Ever notice that hearing safe 9mm cans are a lot smaller than hearing safe .45 cans?  There's also the undeniable fact that the smaller the bore, the better it suppresses.

so 5.56 suppresses better than 300BO?
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 1:33:34 PM EDT
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You're right, it suppresses better.


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Ever notice that hearing safe 9mm cans are a lot smaller than hearing safe .45 cans?  There's also the undeniable fact that the smaller the bore, the better it suppresses.


Gotta make products for betas too
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 1:35:04 PM EDT
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ooo nice..
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so 5.56 suppresses better than 300BO?
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http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/thecanuck11/dk-proflol_zpswwbnbvne.png


Ever notice that hearing safe 9mm cans are a lot smaller than hearing safe .45 cans?  There's also the undeniable fact that the smaller the bore, the better it suppresses.

so 5.56 suppresses better than 300BO?


If both are subsonic, yes.  If you're comparing 5.56 supers to .300 subs, then no.  .300 has other benefits, like being able to run subs and supers without having to change anything out.  And that you can actually get a heavy bullet in there that still feeds from the magazine, something that 5.56 was never intended to do.
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so 5.56 suppresses better than 300BO?
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Ever notice that hearing safe 9mm cans are a lot smaller than hearing safe .45 cans?  There's also the undeniable fact that the smaller the bore, the better it suppresses.

so 5.56 suppresses better than 300BO?


With subsonics, of course it does.  It's basically a .22 at that point.  

300BLK's advantage is that it will cycle in the same gun as supersonic rounds will, it fires .308 subs without the wasted case capacity or action length, it feeds from a standard AR15 magazine, and it reaches velocity in a very short barrel.

It's not quieter than smaller bore subsonics, but that's not the purpose of the round.  It's simply quiet enough.
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#NoNaziGuns







 
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 2:49:39 PM EDT
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OP is doing a nice job.  The tank from SPR and destruction of Britain pic are my fav reasons so far.  I lol'd at both.  But I admit, Im easily amused.  

Link Posted: 10/13/2015 2:54:03 PM EDT
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Big frame pistol - .45, small frame- .380. Bullet technology has rendered the 9mm obsolete.
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This ought to be good

Use their argument against them. With modern bullet technology .380>9mm
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With all the recent pros coming out of the closet and announcing they are metricsexuals I feel it is my duty to bring this issue to light.

First off, nothing screams 'Merica like a big fat American designed .45 ACP cartridge. Its big. Its heavy. Most importantly its measured in fucking inches.

Second off, There's the argument that .45 does nothing better than 9mm. Well let me tell you, that's bullshit. A 9mm round may kill the body, but a .45 ACP round kills the soul. This has been proven time and time again by science and séances.

Third off, Did I mention its measured in inches? Some may not find that a big deal, but it is. There are two types of countries in the world, those that use the metric system, and those who have put a man on the moon

#45matters

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Plus it makes you far more manly to use .45acp. Just a simple fact.
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Plus it makes you far more manly to use .45acp. Just a simple fact.
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With all the recent pros coming out of the closet and announcing they are metricsexuals I feel it is my duty to bring this issue to light.

First off, nothing screams 'Merica like a big fat American designed .45 ACP cartridge. Its big. Its heavy. Most importantly its measured in fucking inches.

Second off, There's the argument that .45 does nothing better than 9mm. Well let me tell you, that's bullshit. A 9mm round may kill the body, but a .45 ACP round kills the soul. This has been proven time and time again by science and séances.

Third off, Did I mention its measured in inches? Some may not find that a big deal, but it is. There are two types of countries in the world, those that use the metric system, and those who have put a man on the moon

#45matters

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Plus it makes you far more manly to use .45acp. Just a simple fact.


Goddamn right it does.
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This ought to be good

Use their argument against them. With modern bullet technology .380>9mm
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Big frame pistol - .45, small frame- .380. Bullet technology has rendered the 9mm obsolete.


This ought to be good

Use their argument against them. With modern bullet technology .380>9mm

Yes; lighter bullet makes shot recovery quicker, loads of 90gn@1000-1100FPS expand to >.5" and penetrate >12". Wikipedia says so.
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Yes; lighter bullet makes shot recovery quicker, loads of 90gn@1000-1100FPS expand to >.5" and penetrate >12". Wikipedia says so.
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Big frame pistol - .45, small frame- .380. Bullet technology has rendered the 9mm obsolete.


This ought to be good

Use their argument against them. With modern bullet technology .380>9mm

Yes; lighter bullet makes shot recovery quicker, loads of 90gn@1000-1100FPS expand to >.5" and penetrate >12". Wikipedia says so.


This is brilliant
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Keep calm and proofread your meme.



 
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My Deagle laughs at your .45.
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With modern bullet technology...

.45>.50AE
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I carry both on me every day
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And my S&W 500 laughs at my Deagle and laughs even harder at your .45
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Crown protection fail.
LOL at your oil stains too
Link Posted: 10/13/2015 3:45:00 PM EDT
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9mm - For the John McClane's who try to walk amongst us true men...

Col Cooper laughs at your insolence!
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#9mmis4girls
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_20/97960_Handgun_Ammo_Forum_FAQs.html
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We stopped putting men on the moon 40 years ago.  There's nothing there.  There's absolutely no reason to go back except to be able to say we did.  Which we can already say.  So...


We stopped using low capacity pistols for combat 30 years ago.  There's no reason to use a .45 except to be able to say that you carry a .45.  Which became obsolete over 80 years ago once JMB invented the Hi-Power.  So...


I enjoy history and past accomplishments as much as any American, but being wasteful and inefficient when it comes to lifesaving equipment out of nostalgia is just stupid.


the XD disagrees with you

http://www.chuckhawks.com/springfield_XD_tactical.jpg


Friends don't let friends...aww fuck it.
Link Posted: 10/14/2015 12:40:09 PM EDT
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blow everybody's mind.  10mm
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_20/97960_Handgun_Ammo_Forum_FAQs.html





 
Wow, I'm so glad you re-joined in 2014, otherwise I mightn't have found the ammo section.





































 
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Wow.  Thirteen rounds.  In a huge gun.  lulz

Same manufacturer...
Same capacity...
Same terminal effectiveness...
Better penetration of armor and intermediate barriers (e.g. cars)...
Half the size and a pound lighter...

http://www.englishpit.com/images/firearms/Springfield_XD-9_SubCompact_FullSize.jpg


Or keep the gun full size and you have 20 rounds instead.  Just that easily, you've added another full 1911's worth of capacity to your gun.  
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We stopped putting men on the moon 40 years ago.  There's nothing there.  There's absolutely no reason to go back except to be able to say we did.  Which we can already say.  So...


We stopped using low capacity pistols for combat 30 years ago.  There's no reason to use a .45 except to be able to say that you carry a .45.  Which became obsolete over 80 years ago once JMB invented the Hi-Power.  So...


I enjoy history and past accomplishments as much as any American, but being wasteful and inefficient when it comes to lifesaving equipment out of nostalgia is just stupid.


the XD disagrees with you

http://www.chuckhawks.com/springfield_XD_tactical.jpg


Wow.  Thirteen rounds.  In a huge gun.  lulz

Same manufacturer...
Same capacity...
Same terminal effectiveness...
Better penetration of armor and intermediate barriers (e.g. cars)...
Half the size and a pound lighter...

http://www.englishpit.com/images/firearms/Springfield_XD-9_SubCompact_FullSize.jpg


Or keep the gun full size and you have 20 rounds instead.  Just that easily, you've added another full 1911's worth of capacity to your gun.  


I bet your boyfriend says size doesn't matter either, and your's is "fine" and is plenty big
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I'm very happy with how the .45 performs.  I have 9mm for practice, plinking and competition, but I carry .45 for personal defense.
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Is that a non-JM model?



 
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.45>.50AE
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With modern bullet technology...



.45>.50AE


I rost.



 
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 I like .45s, really I do...
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It's a Model of 1988
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LOL! You fail. S&W 500's don't give a shit about crown protection and those are wood staining drips. My Evo doesn't leak. It has dual belt drives with a dry clutch.









Edited for spelling.
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Is there a factory 1911 available that I won't have to

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Stop listening to gun counter bullshit, because that is all it is. I have purchased 8 Govt. Model 1911s, Colt and Springfield, in the last 15 years. Not one of them had a single issue; not one.




Now I just have to decide which to carry on my birthday tomorrow.










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.45ACP.

If this GIF doesn't explain why .45 is the best anti-personal round that can be fired out of a pistol at CQB distances, then I guess atleast it shows its worthiness as an anti-tank round.
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You're right, it suppresses better.


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Ever notice that hearing safe 9mm cans are a lot smaller than hearing safe .45 cans?  There's also the undeniable fact that the smaller the bore, the better it suppresses.

so 5.56 suppresses better than 300BO?


Not trying to be a dick here (sometimes it just happens naturally) but what experiences do you have with pistol suppressors? A wet 45 can will suppress nicely but it is by no means a 9mm setup.


I'm only talking about suppression, not about ballistics.
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