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Well shoot. I guess that debt ceiling thing isn't going to be an issue going forward... Trump, Schumer agree to pursue plan to repeal the debt ceiling Here's Fox too - Link Tapioca enemas for all! View Quote So awesome. |
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And Clinton compromised with Republicans....Whether we like it or not its part of the game. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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The last eight months have shown in the democrats are in control of Congress
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Since all we heard during the election was, "It's a binary choice: Trump or Hillary," here's a binary choice for those saying this is a good idea.
You have to work to advance legislation with either: A) Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell or B) Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Shumer Who do you chose to work with? Remember, it's a binary choice! |
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View Quote 2016 FLASHBACK: Ted Cruz Predicts Trump Will Cut Deals With Pelosi, Schumer |
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With zero concessions from the Democrats on Border Wall Funding. Don't forget that part. He's just going to sign it. View Quote You literally could not have been more wrong if you had tried to more wrong. In fact, you were the official leader of #TeamWrong during the primaries. Sad. |
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Hate it. Flat out hate it. Contextually, the debt ceiling is a farce anyway. It always gets raised. However, by threatening to take away the OPTION to make a stand on power of the purse grounds, Trump is effectively telling Congress that either they get on board the Trump Train or they lose a chunk of power for a looooong loooong time. So, in short order he; forced the GOP into taking a stance on DACA during primary season, forced the GOP into taking a stance on the debt ceiling during primary season, threatened their power of the purse via a "gentleman's agreement", and showed the GOP that he is willing to negotiate with the "other side" if the GOP chooses to remain in obstructionist mode. Either he's lighting a fire that the GOP can't tap dance around without being burning themselves down in the hopes of forcing them into action or he's straight up given up on the GOP after realizing they don't really want to MAGA and decided to work with Democrats to avoid a lame duck presidency. We voted for chaos and it looks like we just got it in spades. View Quote The debt ceiling just allows brinkmanship and the chance for "emergency" deals to be made. |
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I don't consider anyone praising a compromise with Pelosi/Schumer a conservative. YMMV... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Holy hell what has this thread turned into overnight... no wonder "we" are getting our collective asses pounded. Conservatives are SOO united with a unified message Really what was the Congressional Republicans plan other than dodge responsibility and increase the debt for the next 18 months? |
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When you're huge cucks like Cruz and I, you pretty much have to stick together and have each others back. We don't need any of those #MAGA non-cucks sneaking up behind us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You Canadians always stick together We don't need any of those #MAGA non-cucks sneaking up behind us. Only the best cucks |
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So is Trump so ineffective and boxed in that he cannot get anything done without kowtowing to Democrats, or is he so powerful that he's playing 6D chess and outwitting everyone, Repub and Dem alike? View Quote You think a 3 month deal sucks, what do you think the McConnell/Ryan Compromise would have looked like? |
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The reason Democrats wanted 3 months is because of the leverage they obtain. The end of the year makes it a high priority to get things passed and they can then laden those bills with their want items to get their agenda going. Remember when Obama wanted debt limit extensions and the Dems wanted a longer extension and Republicans wanted a very short one? It's all about getting leverage to push an agenda. Short timeframes favor those who don't control the majority and Oval Office. Basically they showed they are much better negotiators than Trump. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Still waiting. Why is a 3 month debt limit extension to pass hurricane funding indicative of Trump becoming a full-blooded Democrat? Not talking points. Not memes. Not hysterics. Remember when Obama wanted debt limit extensions and the Dems wanted a longer extension and Republicans wanted a very short one? It's all about getting leverage to push an agenda. Short timeframes favor those who don't control the majority and Oval Office. Basically they showed they are much better negotiators than Trump. Tell me how that is a better deal. President Trump wants these bastards working on an actual budget and tax cuts. Neither of which they have even started on in the House according to Congressman Evan Jenkins' staff, Congress Jenkins is on the Appropriations Committee last I looked so they should know that much. |
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What were the Congressional Republicans going to have to give the Dems to get them to go ahead with an 18 month extension of the budget and raise of the debts cealing? The Dems want the budget as a campaign issues, so what would they have demanded to let that weapon stay in the holster? You think a 3 month deal sucks, what do you think the McConnell/Ryan Compromise would have looked like? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So is Trump so ineffective and boxed in that he cannot get anything done without kowtowing to Democrats, or is he so powerful that he's playing 6D chess and outwitting everyone, Repub and Dem alike? You think a 3 month deal sucks, what do you think the McConnell/Ryan Compromise would have looked like? Pelosi and Schumer wanted the debt ceiling to remain an issue that they could leverage for MORE in a few months...they got it. They wanted money for Harvey, and zero cuts anywhere to offset the spending...they got it. They offered nothing, and got everything. Where is the winning? |
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The alternative from the UBER Conservative Paul Ryan asnd Mitch McConnell was an 18 month debt ceiling increase and budget. That would have lasted till about February 2019. To get that from Dems who were solidly in opposition they would have had to have given them more than they gave them in the last two budget deals combined and then some. Tell me how that is a better deal than what Trump negotiated. Really what was the Congressional Republicans plan other than dodge responsibility and increase the debt for the next 18 months? View Quote You think Trump got mad he was taking the RINOs' load in his mouth without even getting his clit rubbed in return? You think Nancy and Chuck promised Trump some finger fucking if he just took one Eiffel Tower from them? Get the fuck out of here. Compromising with Pelosi/Schumer is fucking wrong, and dumb since they are in the fucking minority. Do you know what that fucking means? It means they are the ones that are supposed to be giving shit up. |
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Trump gave Pelosi and Schumer everything they wanted, and got nothing in return. Pelosi and Schumer wanted the debt ceiling to remain an issue that they could leverage for MORE in a few months...they got it. They wanted money for Harvey, and zero cuts anywhere to offset the spending...they got it. They offered nothing, and got everything. Where is the winning? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So is Trump so ineffective and boxed in that he cannot get anything done without kowtowing to Democrats, or is he so powerful that he's playing 6D chess and outwitting everyone, Repub and Dem alike? You think a 3 month deal sucks, what do you think the McConnell/Ryan Compromise would have looked like? Pelosi and Schumer wanted the debt ceiling to remain an issue that they could leverage for MORE in a few months...they got it. They wanted money for Harvey, and zero cuts anywhere to offset the spending...they got it. They offered nothing, and got everything. Where is the winning? |
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Trump gave Pelosi and Schumer everything they wanted, and got nothing in return. Pelosi and Schumer wanted the debt ceiling to remain an issue that they could leverage for MORE in a few months...they got it. They wanted money for Harvey, and zero cuts anywhere to offset the spending...they got it. They offered nothing, and got everything. Where is the winning? View Quote I hope he does something. He hasn't taken the reigns as a leader to push the agenda and policies he was elected on. He just wants to be liked.... I wish he would start leading instead of tweeting. Playing insult games doesn't further US interest. |
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why even bother with the charade of the debt ceiling if they just raise it all the time?
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Who the fuck is calling Ryan/McConnell uber conservatives? I'm not taking Ryan's side. I didn't endorse him or McCain in 2016. I didn't support McConnell's boy in the Alabama Senate Special Election. You think Trump got mad he was taking the RINOs' load in his mouth without even getting his clit rubbed in return? You think Nancy and Chuck promised Trump some finger fucking if he just took one Eiffel Tower from them? Get the fuck out of here. Compromising with Pelosi/Schumer is fucking wrong, and dumb since they are in the fucking minority. Do you know what that fucking means? It means they are the ones that are supposed to be giving shit up. View Quote You want to know what was wrong. The President sat in a room surrounded by enemies, the worst being Ryan and McConnell who were there to sell out the nation in the hope to get their debt ceiling increase for the next 18-months. The President sat there watch these turds negotiate knowing that in the end any deal they reached would suck and important shit like a Hurricaine Bill need to be addressed. So instead of watching Ryan and McConnell thump their chest while selling the people out he cut his own deal with the Democrats. His deal is better than what the Congressional Republicans wanted. PS You have not even addressed the fact that the House Republicans have not even begun working on a budget or even gotten serious about a tax relief bill. But hey, be made that Trump decided not to waste his time while Ryan and McConnell tried to dodge their budget responsibilites for another YEAR AND A HALF! |
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Watch your language there Mister, others have gotten time outs and locks for less. You want to know what was wrong. The President sat in a room surrounded by enemies, the worst being Ryan and McConnell who were there to sell out the nation in the hope to get their debt ceiling increase for the next 18-months. The President sat there watch these turds negotiate knowing that in the end any deal they reached would suck and important shit like a Hurricaine Bill need to be addressed. So instead of watching Ryan and McConnell thump their chest while selling the people out he cut his own deal with the Democrats. His deal is better than what the Congressional Republicans wanted. PS You have not even addressed the fact that the House Republicans have not even begun working on a budget or even gotten serious about a tax relief bill. But hey, be made that Trump decided not to waste his time while Ryan and McConnell tried to dodge their budget responsibilites for another YEAR AND A HALF! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Who the fuck is calling Ryan/McConnell uber conservatives? I'm not taking Ryan's side. I didn't endorse him or McCain in 2016. I didn't support McConnell's boy in the Alabama Senate Special Election. You think Trump got mad he was taking the RINOs' load in his mouth without even getting his clit rubbed in return? You think Nancy and Chuck promised Trump some finger fucking if he just took one Eiffel Tower from them? Get the fuck out of here. Compromising with Pelosi/Schumer is fucking wrong, and dumb since they are in the fucking minority. Do you know what that fucking means? It means they are the ones that are supposed to be giving shit up. You want to know what was wrong. The President sat in a room surrounded by enemies, the worst being Ryan and McConnell who were there to sell out the nation in the hope to get their debt ceiling increase for the next 18-months. The President sat there watch these turds negotiate knowing that in the end any deal they reached would suck and important shit like a Hurricaine Bill need to be addressed. So instead of watching Ryan and McConnell thump their chest while selling the people out he cut his own deal with the Democrats. His deal is better than what the Congressional Republicans wanted. PS You have not even addressed the fact that the House Republicans have not even begun working on a budget or even gotten serious about a tax relief bill. But hey, be made that Trump decided not to waste his time while Ryan and McConnell tried to dodge their budget responsibilites for another YEAR AND A HALF! You consider Ryan and McConnell to be worse than Pelosi and Schumer. So, promised to vote straight ticket Dem if Trump didn't get the nomination and prefers to work with Pelosi and Schumer. Hmmm... Interesting. |
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Watch your language there Mister, others have gotten time outs and locks for less. You want to know what was wrong. The President sat in a room surrounded by enemies, the worst being Ryan and McConnell who were there to sell out the nation in the hope to get their debt ceiling increase for the next 18-months. The President sat there watch these turds negotiate knowing that in the end any deal they reached would suck and important shit like a Hurricaine Bill need to be addressed. So instead of watching Ryan and McConnell thump their chest while selling the people out he cut his own deal with the Democrats. His deal is better than what the Congressional Republicans wanted. PS You have not even addressed the fact that the House Republicans have not even begun working on a budget or even gotten serious about a tax relief bill. But hey, be made that Trump decided not to waste his time while Ryan and McConnell tried to dodge their budget responsibilites for another YEAR AND A HALF! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Who the fuck is calling Ryan/McConnell uber conservatives? I'm not taking Ryan's side. I didn't endorse him or McCain in 2016. I didn't support McConnell's boy in the Alabama Senate Special Election. You think Trump got mad he was taking the RINOs' load in his mouth without even getting his clit rubbed in return? You think Nancy and Chuck promised Trump some finger fucking if he just took one Eiffel Tower from them? Get the fuck out of here. Compromising with Pelosi/Schumer is fucking wrong, and dumb since they are in the fucking minority. Do you know what that fucking means? It means they are the ones that are supposed to be giving shit up. You want to know what was wrong. The President sat in a room surrounded by enemies, the worst being Ryan and McConnell who were there to sell out the nation in the hope to get their debt ceiling increase for the next 18-months. The President sat there watch these turds negotiate knowing that in the end any deal they reached would suck and important shit like a Hurricaine Bill need to be addressed. So instead of watching Ryan and McConnell thump their chest while selling the people out he cut his own deal with the Democrats. His deal is better than what the Congressional Republicans wanted. PS You have not even addressed the fact that the House Republicans have not even begun working on a budget or even gotten serious about a tax relief bill. But hey, be made that Trump decided not to waste his time while Ryan and McConnell tried to dodge their budget responsibilites for another YEAR AND A HALF! Any hurricane relief bill was going to pass. Even the fucking democrats from New Jersey who who still had sand in their pussies from the Texas (R)s not voting for Sandy relief funding were saying they were going to vote in favor of a Harvey relief package. Compromising with Pelosi and Schumer had dick to do about hurricane relief funding. But hey, Trump got to be that horizontal line during that Schumer-Pelosi with a strap on Wobbly H. I bet Trump got to feel important for a few minutes. It isn't every day the minority leaders in both chambers of Congress can walk out of the White House knowing their side just won. When Obama had both chambers, I really wish Ryan, Boehner, and McConnell had cocks the size of Pelosi's dong. And to your PS: when is the last time we had a regular budget passed instead of CRs? CRs are the new norm. |
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So when Pelosi was putting on her strap on waiting to ram it in Cuck Trump, I wonder if she spat on it, or lubed it in any way. Or maybe Trump likes it going in dry. Wonder if she or Schumer got the sloppy seconds. Hmm.
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Can we just rename this fucking trainwreck troll thread to #NeverTrump 2.0 and get it over with already?
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So, a bit of an indirect answer to my question.... You consider Ryan and McConnell to be worse than Pelosi and Schumer. So, promised to vote straight ticket Dem if Trump didn't get the nomination and prefers to work with Pelosi and Schumer. Hmmm... Interesting. View Quote Falls under the heading an enemy I trust (to try and do me harm every day) versus a supposed ally I can never ever trust and who will betray me at the least sign of trouble. |
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Yes, because they have broken every campaign promise they made to their voters for the last 7 years. Think of it this way, when Schumer says he is going to screw you, he does he dead level best to do it and you see it coming. You also expect it because he is your political enemy. Unlike Paul and Mitch McConnell who makes promises they never intend to keep and stab their voters in the back every chance they get...while talking about how Conservative they are. Falls under the heading an enemy I trust (to try and do me harm every day) versus a supposed ally I can never ever trust and who will betray me at the least sign of trouble. View Quote And yet he chooses to use his bully pulpit to tear down Conservatives within his party when they oppose him instead of RINOs like McConnell and Ryan. Odd... |
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Can't handle a few F Bombs? Get the fuck out. You're the guy who loves to call the RINOs cunts. Put on your big girl panties off you can't handle "fuck" being used as a fucking adjective or adverb a few fucking times. Any hurricane relief bill was going to pass. Even the fucking democrats from New Jersey who who still had sand in their pussies from the Texas (R)s not voting for Sandy relief funding were saying they were going to vote in favor of a Harvey relief package. Compromising with Pelosi and Schumer had dick to do about hurricane relief funding. But hey, Trump got to be that horizontal line during that Schumer-Pelosi with a strap on Wobbly H. I bet Trump got to feel important for a few minutes. It isn't every day the minority leaders in both chambers of Congress can walk out of the White House knowing their side just won. When Obama had both chambers, I really wish Ryan, Boehner, and McConnell had cocks the size of Pelosi's dong. And to your PS: when is the last time we had a regular budget passed instead of CRs? CRs are the new norm. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Who the fuck is calling Ryan/McConnell uber conservatives? I'm not taking Ryan's side. I didn't endorse him or McCain in 2016. I didn't support McConnell's boy in the Alabama Senate Special Election. You think Trump got mad he was taking the RINOs' load in his mouth without even getting his clit rubbed in return? You think Nancy and Chuck promised Trump some finger fucking if he just took one Eiffel Tower from them? Get the fuck out of here. Compromising with Pelosi/Schumer is fucking wrong, and dumb since they are in the fucking minority. Do you know what that fucking means? It means they are the ones that are supposed to be giving shit up. You want to know what was wrong. The President sat in a room surrounded by enemies, the worst being Ryan and McConnell who were there to sell out the nation in the hope to get their debt ceiling increase for the next 18-months. The President sat there watch these turds negotiate knowing that in the end any deal they reached would suck and important shit like a Hurricaine Bill need to be addressed. So instead of watching Ryan and McConnell thump their chest while selling the people out he cut his own deal with the Democrats. His deal is better than what the Congressional Republicans wanted. PS You have not even addressed the fact that the House Republicans have not even begun working on a budget or even gotten serious about a tax relief bill. But hey, be made that Trump decided not to waste his time while Ryan and McConnell tried to dodge their budget responsibilites for another YEAR AND A HALF! Any hurricane relief bill was going to pass. Even the fucking democrats from New Jersey who who still had sand in their pussies from the Texas (R)s not voting for Sandy relief funding were saying they were going to vote in favor of a Harvey relief package. Compromising with Pelosi and Schumer had dick to do about hurricane relief funding. But hey, Trump got to be that horizontal line during that Schumer-Pelosi with a strap on Wobbly H. I bet Trump got to feel important for a few minutes. It isn't every day the minority leaders in both chambers of Congress can walk out of the White House knowing their side just won. When Obama had both chambers, I really wish Ryan, Boehner, and McConnell had cocks the size of Pelosi's dong. And to your PS: when is the last time we had a regular budget passed instead of CRs? CRs are the new norm. Funny I can remember getting a ban for less salty language. I guess that is the Mods double standards kicking in again. If you want to talk about giving the Dems what they want, look at the last two CRs that Paul Ryan helped write. CR are not budgets, budgets are passes under regular order and cover a fiscal year. CR are stop gaps, not meant to take the place of budgets under regular order. We have been without a budget passed under regular order for most of the time the Republicans have controlled the House and Senate. Restoring the regular budget process was one of the campaign pledges in the Republican campaigns. 10 months since the last election and we still do not have a budget resolution or even people working on on in the House according to a staffer who works for Congress Jenkins in the last three weeks.. CR are not the new norm any more than 2% GDP was the new norm. CRs are evidence of the failure the GOPe Leadership in Congress to do the jobs they campaigned for. |
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Using your logic, an 87th dimensional interstellar Battletoads champion like Trump should have seen it coming from McConnell and Ryan since that's been their MO for the last 7 years. They are at least within his party and subject to his bully pulpit more so than members of the opposing party. And yet he chooses to use his bully pulpit to tear down Conservatives within his party when they oppose him instead of RINOs like McConnell and Ryan. Odd... View Quote |
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Jebus. Some of you guys are getting vapors over a relatively minor move. There are three and a half more years to this campaign. Don't go all wobbly just because the other side got a first down.
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That meeting was all about Ryan and McConnell trying to do their jobs for anothe year and a half when it comes to doing a budget. If they wanted to get an actual budget done they had 10 months to make it happen. So if you got issues maybe look to the two RINOs and their minions whose JOBS it is to deal with budgets. Funny I can remember getting a ban for less salty language. I guess that is the Mods double standards kicking in again. If you want to talk about giving the Dems what they want, look at the last two CRs that Paul Ryan helped write. CR are not budgets, budgets are passes under regular order and cover a fiscal year. CR are stop gaps, not meant to take the place of budgets under regular order. We have been without a budget passed under regular order for most of the time the Republicans have controlled the House and Senate. Restoring the regular budget process was one of the campaign pledges in the Republican campaigns. 10 months since the last election and we still do not have a budget resolution or even people working on on in the House according to a staffer who works for Congress Jenkins in the last three weeks.. CR are not the new norm any more than 2% GDP was the new norm. CRs are evidence of the failure the GOPe Leadership in Congress to do the jobs they campaigned for. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Who the fuck is calling Ryan/McConnell uber conservatives? I'm not taking Ryan's side. I didn't endorse him or McCain in 2016. I didn't support McConnell's boy in the Alabama Senate Special Election. You think Trump got mad he was taking the RINOs' load in his mouth without even getting his clit rubbed in return? You think Nancy and Chuck promised Trump some finger fucking if he just took one Eiffel Tower from them? Get the fuck out of here. Compromising with Pelosi/Schumer is fucking wrong, and dumb since they are in the fucking minority. Do you know what that fucking means? It means they are the ones that are supposed to be giving shit up. You want to know what was wrong. The President sat in a room surrounded by enemies, the worst being Ryan and McConnell who were there to sell out the nation in the hope to get their debt ceiling increase for the next 18-months. The President sat there watch these turds negotiate knowing that in the end any deal they reached would suck and important shit like a Hurricaine Bill need to be addressed. So instead of watching Ryan and McConnell thump their chest while selling the people out he cut his own deal with the Democrats. His deal is better than what the Congressional Republicans wanted. PS You have not even addressed the fact that the House Republicans have not even begun working on a budget or even gotten serious about a tax relief bill. But hey, be made that Trump decided not to waste his time while Ryan and McConnell tried to dodge their budget responsibilites for another YEAR AND A HALF! Any hurricane relief bill was going to pass. Even the fucking democrats from New Jersey who who still had sand in their pussies from the Texas (R)s not voting for Sandy relief funding were saying they were going to vote in favor of a Harvey relief package. Compromising with Pelosi and Schumer had dick to do about hurricane relief funding. But hey, Trump got to be that horizontal line during that Schumer-Pelosi with a strap on Wobbly H. I bet Trump got to feel important for a few minutes. It isn't every day the minority leaders in both chambers of Congress can walk out of the White House knowing their side just won. When Obama had both chambers, I really wish Ryan, Boehner, and McConnell had cocks the size of Pelosi's dong. And to your PS: when is the last time we had a regular budget passed instead of CRs? CRs are the new norm. Funny I can remember getting a ban for less salty language. I guess that is the Mods double standards kicking in again. If you want to talk about giving the Dems what they want, look at the last two CRs that Paul Ryan helped write. CR are not budgets, budgets are passes under regular order and cover a fiscal year. CR are stop gaps, not meant to take the place of budgets under regular order. We have been without a budget passed under regular order for most of the time the Republicans have controlled the House and Senate. Restoring the regular budget process was one of the campaign pledges in the Republican campaigns. 10 months since the last election and we still do not have a budget resolution or even people working on on in the House according to a staffer who works for Congress Jenkins in the last three weeks.. CR are not the new norm any more than 2% GDP was the new norm. CRs are evidence of the failure the GOPe Leadership in Congress to do the jobs they campaigned for. Trump was the grand negotiator who was supposed to be getting shit done. Well, he is now. Just with the other guys. But hey, when Pelosi and Schumer Eiffel Towered that ass on 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Ryan and McConnell didn't get their dicks wet, so haha jokes on the GOPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee right? Your boy is compromising with the wrong people. Since you can't seem to understand this, I'm fucking done with this thread. I might check back in on ya in a few months, after the next First 100 Days promise dies or is compromised away. But hey, we still got Don Jr and that Second Amendment Coalition getting some great legislation onto his dad's desk. |
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