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Posted: 9/10/2017 11:30:14 AM EST
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If you think Trump is in vote winning territory, well, I hate to say it but you're just deluding yourself. Not to say he can't get there but making deals with Pelosi and Schumer and, giving Dreamers amnesty is not going to do it. When you've got rabid supporters like Ann Coulter pissed, and rightfully so, that says something. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry, I wasn't that dumb. I hoped he'd win but set my expectations low. There was a very good chance the election could have gone a different way. Moreso if the Dems hadn't been dumb enough to rig their primary in favor of Clinton. The fact that the EC vote in his favor was sizable but, how that EC win came about should be concerning to even the most delusional #EverTrumper. You do realized he pulled off his EC win with just 107,000 votes in 3 swing states, right? Don't worry sco'... I'm totes sure, he's done nothing to flip 107,000 votes in those states so far! He's got that 2nd term nailed! Also, if you total the Republican/libertarian vote and compare it to the democrat/green party vote, Trump picks up another 30 EV (not counting Colorado, which would have gone to a recount because it would be so close), AND Trump wins the the popular vote. Finally, consider the impact of the vote fraud commission and the crackdown on illegals. That is going to be good for another 1-3% of the vote in 2020. Not to say he can't get there but making deals with Pelosi and Schumer and, giving Dreamers amnesty is not going to do it. When you've got rabid supporters like Ann Coulter pissed, and rightfully so, that says something. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 11:32:37 AM EST
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Look, I simply do NOT know how you thwart the GOPe's concerted efforts to make Trump fail and be replaced in 2020. I honestly believe that the 2018 elections are our only hope to do that.........they MUST be diluted and made MUCH less effective. Because, right now, the GOPe is succeeding in preventing ANY important legislation Trump campaigned for from occurring. Those are simply undeniable facts. Trump is currently out there whoring himself out to dreamers. Trump is currently out there pushing his tax plan that would raise taxes on 'the rich.' Trump did not declare China a currency manipulator on day 1. Trump did not rip up the Iran deal on day 1. Trump has not repealed all of Obama's illegal/unconstitutional EO's. Trump is not lowering the debt. Trump has done almost nothing for gun owners. Trump has said nothing about the 'big, ugly bubble' in the stock market since being elected (except to lavish self-praise upon himself every time the DOW hits a new all-time high.) Trump is the GOPe. You willfully elected the GOPe, and now you want to act surprised when all you get is GOPe results? 
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Posted: 9/10/2017 11:44:00 AM EST
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Trump is the GOPe. You willfully elected the GOPe, and now you want to act surprised when all you get is GOPe results? 
This is just like you calling people fake conservatives, the only fake conservative is once again you and your nevertrump brethren and the worthless politicians you support
Just like Antifa calling themselves "anti fascists" when they are the biggest fascists of all 
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Posted: 9/10/2017 11:48:41 AM EST
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So for the Trumptards, why can't you answer a simple question! "Why isn't Trump a RINO?"
He makes no effort to keep his promises. He supports the Dems. He surrounds himself with Dems. He lies at every opportunity. He all for buying favors. He's all for throwing money away. He has no morals or principles. Sounds like the exact same reasons why you hate the GOPe... |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 11:56:56 AM EST
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/09/axios-trump-hoped-for-elites-approval-with-democrat-debt-deal-and-theyre-giving-it-for-now/
Trump Hoped for Elites’ Approval with Democrat Debt Deal President Trump’s decision to cuddle up with Democrat leaders to make a deal on the debt ceiling Wednesday was reportedly made because of Trump’s desire to be loved — after he came to the conclusion that “people really fucking hate me.” Axios reports that Trump, who has spent much of his life seeking the adulation of Manhattan liberals, has fallen back on his weakness for flattery and desire to be loved. A Trump adviser told the outlet that he has realized “people” (presumably the elites he was so cozy with in his days as a real estate developer) don’t like him and he looked for a way to fix that. This reportedly led to the deal he made this week with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), wherein he cast aside the advice of top Republicans and his White House aides and agreed to a three-month extension of the debt-ceiling tied to funding for Hurricane Harvey. ---------------------------------- "ONOZ! The elites of NYC don't like me!" #WhatACuck
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Posted: 9/10/2017 11:58:21 AM EST
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So for the Trumptards, why can't you answer a simple question! "Why isn't Trump a RINO?" He makes no effort to keep his promises. He supports the Dems. He surrounds himself with Dems. He lies at every opportunity. He all for buying favors. He's all for throwing money away. He has no morals or principles. Sounds like the exact same reasons why you hate the GOPe... |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 11:59:12 AM EST
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Perhaps you should spend less time paying attention to those who think their job is to tell you what to think. Without 60 votes only a limited amount of legislation makes it to a floor vote. Without at least 50 votes, nothing passes. The Democrats already had the means to block legislation: 46 Democrat senators, 2 "independent" senators who caucus with the Democrats and 3 "Republican" senators who will vote with them when the chips are down. The agreement on the debt ceiling and a temporary spending bill didn't alter those crucial facts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He provided the Democrats with the means to scuttle Tax reform and any legislation that attacks illegal immigration.
Perhaps you should spend less time paying attention to those who think their job is to tell you what to think. Without 60 votes only a limited amount of legislation makes it to a floor vote. Without at least 50 votes, nothing passes. The Democrats already had the means to block legislation: 46 Democrat senators, 2 "independent" senators who caucus with the Democrats and 3 "Republican" senators who will vote with them when the chips are down. The agreement on the debt ceiling and a temporary spending bill didn't alter those crucial facts. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:00:28 PM EST
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So for the Trumptards, why can't you answer a simple question! "Why isn't Trump a RINO?" He makes no effort to keep his promises. He supports the Dems. He surrounds himself with Dems. He lies at every opportunity. He all for buying favors. He's all for throwing money away. He has no morals or principles. Sounds like the exact same reasons why you hate the GOPe... This has to be a troll post No one can be that obtuse and out of touch
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:01:55 PM EST
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Trump was out there whoring himself out to the GOP Obamacare replacement that left 98.5% of Obamacare in place. Trump is currently out there whoring himself out to dreamers. Trump is currently out there pushing his tax plan that would raise taxes on 'the rich.' Trump did not declare China a currency manipulator on day 1. Trump did not rip up the Iran deal on day 1. Trump has not repealed all of Obama's illegal/unconstitutional EO's. Trump is not lowering the debt. Trump has done almost nothing for gun owners. Trump has said nothing about the 'big, ugly bubble' in the stock market since being elected (except to lavish self-praise upon himself every time the DOW hits a new all-time high.) Trump is the GOPe. You willfully elected the GOPe, and now you want to act surprised when all you get is GOPe results? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Look, I simply do NOT know how you thwart the GOPe's concerted efforts to make Trump fail and be replaced in 2020. I honestly believe that the 2018 elections are our only hope to do that.........they MUST be diluted and made MUCH less effective. Because, right now, the GOPe is succeeding in preventing ANY important legislation Trump campaigned for from occurring. Those are simply undeniable facts. Trump is currently out there whoring himself out to dreamers. Trump is currently out there pushing his tax plan that would raise taxes on 'the rich.' Trump did not declare China a currency manipulator on day 1. Trump did not rip up the Iran deal on day 1. Trump has not repealed all of Obama's illegal/unconstitutional EO's. Trump is not lowering the debt. Trump has done almost nothing for gun owners. Trump has said nothing about the 'big, ugly bubble' in the stock market since being elected (except to lavish self-praise upon himself every time the DOW hits a new all-time high.) Trump is the GOPe. You willfully elected the GOPe, and now you want to act surprised when all you get is GOPe results? It really is that simple. Why you go through all these contortions to somehow convince yourself that Trump is the GOPe is laughable on its face. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:04:15 PM EST
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So for the Trumptards, why can't you answer a simple question! "Why isn't Trump a RINO?" He makes no effort to keep his promises. He supports the Dems. He surrounds himself with Dems. He lies at every opportunity. He all for buying favors. He's all for throwing money away. He has no morals or principles. Sounds like the exact same reasons why you hate the GOPe... Trump is positioning himself as a democrat so the GOPe has to counter him. Thereby putting republicans and democrats against each other in congress which hasn't been the case (the GOPe and democrats are the same but they lie to the voters that they are not). |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:05:25 PM EST
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Yeah right - GOP shocked. Forty eight hours after the announcement, the bill was through the House and Senate and on the Presidents desk, with majority Republican sign on.
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:05:57 PM EST
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If that statement were true you and your ilk would love him
This is just like you calling people fake conservatives, the only fake conservative is once again you and your nevertrump brethren and the worthless politicians you support
Just like Antifa calling themselves "anti fascists" when they are the biggest fascists of all
Sad MAGA That being said, there's a huge difference between conservatism and liberalism. "At least he's not Hillary" and "Yeah, but Gorsuch" aren't going to last too much longer, and it's quite obvious to me that you don't have a plan b. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:06:07 PM EST
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Lol at the butthurt rinos in here
Yep all the usual suspects are here, must have seen the big Nevertrump bat signal signal in the sky Sad MAGA And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this? |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:07:32 PM EST
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Your politician-worship has rendered you myopic and utterly clueless. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:07:51 PM EST
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So for the Trumptards, why can't you answer a simple question! "Why isn't Trump a RINO?" He makes no effort to keep his promises. He supports the Dems. He surrounds himself with Dems. He lies at every opportunity. He all for buying favors. He's all for throwing money away. He has no morals or principles. Sounds like the exact same reasons why you hate the GOPe... You believe it is Trump's fault. One of us is right, the other is wrong. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:10:35 PM EST
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Those who oppose collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are RINOs... And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol at the butthurt rinos in here
Yep all the usual suspects are here, must have seen the big Nevertrump bat signal signal in the sky Sad MAGA And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this? |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:10:37 PM EST
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Those who oppose collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are RINOs... And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this? |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:13:17 PM EST
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Your politician-worship has rendered you myopic and utterly clueless.
Facts are stubborn. Ignoring them won't change them. The Democrats had enough votes to block bills in the Senate at the beginning of this Congress. The Democrats still have enough votes to block bills in the Senate. The short term deal didn't alter that reality. Your belief in the blathering of pundits can't alter that reality. Your posts can't alter that reality. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:13:17 PM EST
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Those who oppose collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are RINOs... And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol at the butthurt rinos in here
Yep all the usual suspects are here, must have seen the big Nevertrump bat signal signal in the sky Sad MAGA And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this? I think 2018 is our only hope. I don't know how else to defeat or minimize them. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:13:20 PM EST
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Trump ... has fallen back on his weakness for flattery and desire to be loved. 
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:13:33 PM EST
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Those who oppose collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are RINOs... And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol at the butthurt rinos in here
Yep all the usual suspects are here, must have seen the big Nevertrump bat signal signal in the sky Sad MAGA And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this? #PROTRUMP bias sees Pelosi and Schumer as the collaboraters aiding Trump in our agenda. Please note that only one of these filters correctly predicted the outcome of the election. Just Sayin. 
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:13:36 PM EST
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Is it only ok for the rinos to collaborate with pelosi and schumer and the dems both overtly and covertly to sabotage trump at every turn? Or is it only a no no when trump does it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol at the butthurt rinos in here
Yep all the usual suspects are here, must have seen the big Nevertrump bat signal signal in the sky Sad MAGA And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this?  Noob Noob God Damn! Ear Rape |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:14:56 PM EST
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You faith in the Republican Party and the GOPe is mind numbing to the point you have sided with them over Trump. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your politician-worship has rendered you myopic and utterly clueless. But your undying love and worship for Trump is such that you now side with Pelosi and Schumer. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:18:49 PM EST
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I am a conservative. While you weren't paying attention to what was really happening the society which you hoped to conserve was destroyed and replaced. Only the forms remain. There's no substance left to "conserve". |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:20:21 PM EST
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I have extremely bad news for you: While you weren't paying attention to what was really happening the society which you hoped to conserve was destroyed and replaced. Only the forms remain. There's no substance left to "conserve". |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:20:41 PM EST
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#NEVERTRUMP bias sees Trump as a collaborater to aid Pelosi and Schumer. #PROTRUMP bias sees Pelosi and Schumer as the collaboraters aiding Trump in our agenda. Please note that only one of these filters correctly predicted the outcome of the election. Just Sayin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol at the butthurt rinos in here
Yep all the usual suspects are here, must have seen the big Nevertrump bat signal signal in the sky Sad MAGA And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this? #PROTRUMP bias sees Pelosi and Schumer as the collaboraters aiding Trump in our agenda. Please note that only one of these filters correctly predicted the outcome of the election. Just Sayin. To whom are you referring when you say "our"? |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:22:05 PM EST
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So start supporting Schumer and Pelosi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have extremely bad news for you: While you weren't paying attention to what was really happening the society which you hoped to conserve was destroyed and replaced. Only the forms remain. There's no substance left to "conserve". |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:24:30 PM EST
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Facts are stubborn. Ignoring them won't change them. The Democrats had enough votes to block bills in the Senate at the beginning of this Congress. The Democrats still have enough votes to block bills in the Senate. The short term deal didn't alter that reality. Your belief in the blathering of pundits can't alter that reality. Your posts can't alter that reality. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Your politician-worship has rendered you myopic and utterly clueless.
Facts are stubborn. Ignoring them won't change them. The Democrats had enough votes to block bills in the Senate at the beginning of this Congress. The Democrats still have enough votes to block bills in the Senate. The short term deal didn't alter that reality. Your belief in the blathering of pundits can't alter that reality. Your posts can't alter that reality. I don't. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:26:19 PM EST
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I have extremely bad news for you: While you weren't paying attention to what was really happening the society which you hoped to conserve was destroyed and replaced. Only the forms remain. There's no substance left to "conserve". Other than wait for the 2018 elections because I already believe that is the only way. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:30:49 PM EST
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What do you guys believe is the best way to fight the GOPe............I would LOVE to hear some suggestions!!?? Other than wait for the 2018 elections because I already believe that is the only way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have extremely bad news for you: While you weren't paying attention to what was really happening the society which you hoped to conserve was destroyed and replaced. Only the forms remain. There's no substance left to "conserve". Other than wait for the 2018 elections because I already believe that is the only way. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:31:51 PM EST
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No. I am a conservative. My "faith" is not in a party or a politician. But your undying love and worship for Trump is such that you now side with Pelosi and Schumer. You are outside the system my friend. You are lost. You have no power. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:33:08 PM EST
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Do you think there is ANY FUCKING WAY that the filibuster rule will remain intact for 0.0000000001 millisecond once the democrats regain power in the Senate at some future date??? I don't. I'm not convinced they would do so. The fact that they rarely use the other tools at their disposal leads me to believe that enough Republicans would "compromise" so the Democrats could get what they want without resorting to changing the rule. In the event that Republicans suddenly found a spine  and blocked legislation which was important to the Democrats I agree that they would probably alter the rule.
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:36:25 PM EST
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That would depend on the willingness of the Republican members to use the filibuster to block legislation. I'm not convinced they would do so. The fact that they rarely use the other tools at their disposal leads me to believe that enough Republicans would "compromise" so the Democrats could get what they want without resorting to changing the rule. In the event that Republicans suddenly found a spine and blocked legislation which was important to the Democrats I agree that they would probably alter the rule.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you think there is ANY FUCKING WAY that the filibuster rule will remain intact for 0.0000000001 millisecond once the democrats regain power in the Senate at some future date??? I don't. I'm not convinced they would do so. The fact that they rarely use the other tools at their disposal leads me to believe that enough Republicans would "compromise" so the Democrats could get what they want without resorting to changing the rule. In the event that Republicans suddenly found a spine and blocked legislation which was important to the Democrats I agree that they would probably alter the rule. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:37:47 PM EST
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No, the GOPe are those in Congress who will not support him on anything and want him to fail. It really is that simple. Why you go through all these contortions to somehow convince yourself that Trump is the GOPe is laughable on its face. So the GOPe is actually guys like Ben Sass and Rand Paul and Ted Cruz -- you know, the guys who refused to support Trump and his liberal healthcare plan. Makes total sense. I can see where you're coming from. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:42:45 PM EST
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Ah, I see. So the GOPe is actually guys like Ben Sass and Rand Paul and Ted Cruz -- you know, the guys who refused to support Trump and his liberal healthcare plan. Makes total sense. I can see where you're coming from. Because I FIRMLY believe Cruz would be experiencing the SAME UTTER HATRED from the GOPe as Trump is experiencing. The tactics would be the same and the same objective of doing ANYTHING they could to ensure Cruz lost reelection in 2020 would be engaged in by the GOPe. So what do we do about the GOPe and their OBVIOUS desire to do these things??? Because I am TELLING YOU.........the GOPe would treat them the exact same way they are treating Trump............of that I am about as SURE as I can get with a prediction. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:44:02 PM EST
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So the GOPe is actually guys like Ben Sass and Rand Paul and Ted Cruz -- you know, the guys who refused to support Trump and his liberal healthcare plan. The hearings started last week. Two more are scheduled for this week. Part of the plan is to legalize the subsidies paid to the insurance carriers. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:45:06 PM EST
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The Republicans are working on a plan to save ObamaCare. The hearings started last week. Two more are scheduled for this week. Part of the plan is to legalize the subsidies paid to the insurance carriers. Why don't these guys know this!!?? 
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:48:36 PM EST
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Those who oppose collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are RINOs... And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this?
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:49:27 PM EST
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So you have no representation in congress? There are no "politicians" that you have faith in? You are outside the system my friend. You are lost. You have no power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. I am a conservative. My "faith" is not in a party or a politician. But your undying love and worship for Trump is such that you now side with Pelosi and Schumer. You are outside the system my friend. You are lost. You have no power. And now you are defending collaboration with Pelosi/Schumer. To each his own. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:50:21 PM EST
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You think that your blind faith in a politician will give you power. And now you are defending collaboration with Pelosi/Schumer. To each his own. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. I am a conservative. My "faith" is not in a party or a politician. But your undying love and worship for Trump is such that you now side with Pelosi and Schumer. You are outside the system my friend. You are lost. You have no power. And now you are defending collaboration with Pelosi/Schumer. To each his own. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:51:11 PM EST
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That doesn't sound like him at all. 
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:52:57 PM EST
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Yes, this is what the GOPe is currently up to. Why don't these guys know this!!?? For some, if the pundits don't say anything about a subject it never happened. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:55:01 PM EST
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The pundits are too busy talking about "leverage" to discuss unimportant matters such as hearings and subsidies and bills (Oh my!). For some, if the pundits don't say anything about a subject it never happened. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, this is what the GOPe is currently up to. Why don't these guys know this!!?? For some, if the pundits don't say anything about a subject it never happened. Of course, that meant the GOPe would do everything it could to now allow the survival of Obongocare.
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Posted: 9/10/2017 1:02:31 PM EST
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"Our agenda" is supported by Pelosi and Schumer? To whom are you referring when you say "our"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol at the butthurt rinos in here
Yep all the usual suspects are here, must have seen the big Nevertrump bat signal signal in the sky Sad MAGA And those who support collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer are the REAL Republicans? Are you certain about this? #PROTRUMP bias sees Pelosi and Schumer as the collaboraters aiding Trump in our agenda. Please note that only one of these filters correctly predicted the outcome of the election. Just Sayin. To whom are you referring when you say "our"? Your bias causes you to read words such as "supported" that are not in my post. Pelosi and Schumer are being used according to my #PROTRUMP bias. As previously noted that #PROTRUMP bias allowed me to correctly predict the outcome of the election. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 1:02:39 PM EST
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The Republicans are working on a plan to save ObamaCare. The hearings started last week. Two more are scheduled for this week. Part of the plan is to legalize the subsidies paid to the insurance carriers. No plan is required. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 1:04:16 PM EST
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Why is there a 'plan' to save Obamacare? No plan is required. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Republicans are working on a plan to save ObamaCare. The hearings started last week. Two more are scheduled for this week. Part of the plan is to legalize the subsidies paid to the insurance carriers. No plan is required.
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Posted: 9/10/2017 1:04:23 PM EST
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Just out of curiosity..........why are you not answering my question as to what we do with this current GOPe??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. I am a conservative. My "faith" is not in a party or a politician. But your undying love and worship for Trump is such that you now side with Pelosi and Schumer. You are outside the system my friend. You are lost. You have no power. And now you are defending collaboration with Pelosi/Schumer. To each his own. We see in this thread, people who think that the best way to fight the "GOPe" is to collaborate with and help Pelosi and Schumer. When the RINOs and President Trump first trotted out their attempt to turn Obamacare into Trumpcare, the Conservatives in the House refused. They were demonized by Trump and his sycophants. Now we see Trump supporting Amnesty, and collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer. And you want to know how we can "fight the GOPe" so that Trump can succeed with his agenda? Gridlock is looking better and better. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 1:05:33 PM EST
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Trump said "well in that case (since the fucks wouldn't repeal) let it collapse on its own". Of course, that meant the GOPe would do everything it could to now allow the survival of Obongocare. Our heroic members of Congress are dancing to the tune. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 1:06:36 PM EST
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The Republicans are working on a plan to save ObamaCare. The hearings started last week. Two more are scheduled for this week. Part of the plan is to legalize the subsidies paid to the insurance carriers. No plan is required. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 1:07:15 PM EST
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Because YOU don't even know who they are, anymore. We see in this thread, people who think that the best way to fight the "GOPe" is to collaborate with and help Pelosi and Schumer. When the RINOs and President Trump first trotted out their attempt to turn Obamacare into Trumpcare, the Conservatives in the House refused. They were demonized by Trump and his sycophants. Now we see Trump supporting Amnesty, and collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer. And you want to know how we can "fight the GOPe" so that Trump can succeed with his agenda? Gridlock is looking better and better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. I am a conservative. My "faith" is not in a party or a politician. But your undying love and worship for Trump is such that you now side with Pelosi and Schumer. You are outside the system my friend. You are lost. You have no power. And now you are defending collaboration with Pelosi/Schumer. To each his own. We see in this thread, people who think that the best way to fight the "GOPe" is to collaborate with and help Pelosi and Schumer. When the RINOs and President Trump first trotted out their attempt to turn Obamacare into Trumpcare, the Conservatives in the House refused. They were demonized by Trump and his sycophants. Now we see Trump supporting Amnesty, and collaborating with Pelosi and Schumer. And you want to know how we can "fight the GOPe" so that Trump can succeed with his agenda? Gridlock is looking better and better. It is a clusterfuck of EPIC proportions and I was a bit naïve in thinking things would turn out a bit better with the current majorities. I was wrong on that one. I repeat it is a fucking CLUSTERFUCK!!! |
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