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Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:09:46 PM EDT
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"long gun" "223 round"
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:10:34 PM EDT
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He didn't sound that sure though.  Maybe I missed something.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:11:12 PM EDT
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I guess to make sure they didn't sell them first...
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:11:28 PM EDT
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Saying not terrorism but something else.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:11:58 PM EDT
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They do understand a motive.

The home in the neighborhood IS occupied, refusing to let people in.

(Maybe the camera person from shooter's AK shooting video....)
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:12:00 PM EDT
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"not terrorism"

"there was a motive that triggered him"
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:13:08 PM EDT
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so much for "these things dont happen here".  Maybe my work will smarten up, they wont run a active shooter drill because they just dont want to think about it.  Never mind the plant has been shot at several times from what I understand.

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Carry something 24/7 is the only answer.  No one's going to save you besides you and no active shooter plan ever devised by anyone with a lawyer will ever start with "flank the shooter and return fire". so they're pretty much useless.  Gun free zones in Kansas are rapidly becoming extinct with the exception of schools and government buildings (they lose gun free status in 2017).

As it stands those signs on private businesses are just an expression of the owners preference and are not legally binding.  When they were "binding" it was a misdemeanor trespass offense if you were somehow caught and refused to leave.  

Shooting him down after he got one round off would be preferable but shit heads like this traditionally go to cover, eat a gun or run away at the first sign of resistance so even if all you have is a pocket .380 you have a very good chance of stopping the spree simply by disrupting his plan if nothing else.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:13:25 PM EDT
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White House already in touch with Sheriff's office.

Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:13:42 PM EDT
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I wonder if he saw the story on the Uber driver and then when something pissed him off he turned into a semi copycat.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:14:07 PM EDT
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Did he just say they had a call from the white house???
Edit:  I guess so.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:14:52 PM EDT
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yes

i rolled my eyes so hard





 
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:15:01 PM EDT
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Did you catch the media questions:  "How much ammo"  "how many magazines."

Fuck's sake.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:15:06 PM EDT
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gotta set the narrative



 
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:15:32 PM EDT
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I'm sure he saw it. I'm sure the next shooter is watching the media make this guy famous, too.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:15:59 PM EDT
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If that's the guy, total media blackout in 3, 2, 1...
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according to co-workers, the shooter posted this pic on facebook

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If that's the guy, total media blackout in 3, 2, 1...

Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:16:17 PM EDT
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Sounds like the sheriff blew the WH call off.  
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:16:55 PM EDT
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"local officer a hero"




Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:18:16 PM EDT
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  I'm sure he saw it. I'm sure the next shooter is watching the media make this guy famous, too.
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I wonder if he saw the story on the Uber driver and then when something pissed him off he turned into a semi copycat.

  I'm sure he saw it. I'm sure the next shooter is watching the media make this guy famous, too.

Agree completely. It's been the case since Columbine but really kicked into overdrive after Aurora. It's probably killing CNN that they have to show debate instead of cover the shooting.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:18:33 PM EDT
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Single officer went in SOLO, took at the shooter single handed while under fire.
Fucking bad ass.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:19:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:19:46 PM EDT
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AK and pistol
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:20:03 PM EDT
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Press going crazy about assault weapons issues.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:20:42 PM EDT
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I'm just now trying to catch up so sorry if this has been covered, but did this officer get hit at all?  Or maybe still unknown at this point?
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:21:38 PM EDT
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Sounds like something a Marine would do.



 
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:22:56 PM EDT
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Hesston police officer dropped the scum. Good work.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:24:12 PM EDT
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Room mate not allowing LEO to come in the house.  Probably loaded up with shit that isn't supposed to be there.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:25:29 PM EDT
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That won't end well.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:25:30 PM EDT
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I hope they have enough burners to get the job done then.



 
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:31:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:34:17 PM EDT
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Just posted a response for this thread in the debate thread by accident.  
Media going nuts when seeing him shooting the "high powered long gun" in a cornfield in Kansas.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:37:42 PM EDT
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A lot of people where asking what set this guy off.  I've seen a lot of cases of PCP popping up in the hospital, and the old standby meth and/or cocaine.  Pure speculation of course, but the types of psychosis these substance induce is amazing.  This guy very well may have had a low psychotic threshold anyway.  

This just speaks to me as a very clear example of how gun free zones will never work, and any more infringing gun laws won't work, and that concealed carry is so important.  And it sounds like lone ranger Hesston PD earned his title of Hero tonight.

Laws are only in place to punish after an event has happened.  It can't prevent.  Logic and good judgement are required to follow laws, and these things don't exist in our society in large amounts, and psychotic inducing drugs sure don't help either.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:42:34 PM EDT
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The guy being interviewed is making the perfect case as to why gun free zones are death zones.
He was there for a job interview when the shooting started.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:47:08 PM EDT
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I know the guy being interviewed right now
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:49:18 PM EDT
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Damn.  Wonder if he'll take the job.  They gotta hire him after this.
Guy sounds like a good guy.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:50:03 PM EDT
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Damn right!
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:50:38 PM EDT
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This guy was from Florida and recently moved to Kansas. Please Pray for the families that lost loved ones to this monster. Also please don't blame this on Kansans.

He just posted a pic on the 21st says that he is ready for a car show Feb 26th and 27th with a massive $600 car amp in the trunk of his car. Sounds like something went
South today at the Job and this convicted Felon not law abiding citizen went nuts.....

Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:51:04 PM EDT
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Dude he (guy who was just interviewed) totally shut down reporter lady when she brought up "assault rifle", interrupted her and interjected correct terminology.  Who is this guy? I'd love to hire him!
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:55:31 PM EDT
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On his Facebook page there is also a video of him shooting his semi auto ak sporter in a Field possibly 4 months ago.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:55:52 PM EDT
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Damn.  Wonder if he'll take the job.  They gotta hire him after this.
Guy sounds like a good guy.
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Damn.  Wonder if he'll take the job.  They gotta hire him after this.
Guy sounds like a good guy.


No shit! Knowing him... I think he would take the job. but who knows, thats a pretty fucked up ordeal! Yes hes a good guy
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:56:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/25/2016 11:56:48 PM EDT
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Probably busy flushing drugs and ditching evidence.
Link Posted: 2/26/2016 12:03:45 AM EDT
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As he should have in this kind of situation - good on the Sheriff
Link Posted: 2/26/2016 12:04:14 AM EDT
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LOL.  Reporter saying that if it were not for the officer (good guy with a gun) there would have been more people killed. Gun free zones are a bitch.
Link Posted: 2/26/2016 12:04:58 AM EDT
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Damn - I missed that - any quotes?
Link Posted: 2/26/2016 12:05:36 AM EDT
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Good on him! Sad I missed that, but I'm sure it will pop up in the coming days
Link Posted: 2/26/2016 12:05:46 AM EDT
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I'm watching local news as I type this. I just live 40min away from where this took place. 3 victims dead and 1 shooter dead. Total of 14 hurt... Again please pray for the victims and their families.
Link Posted: 2/26/2016 12:06:35 AM EDT
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A felon with at least an AK and a Glock.  
Someone is going to be in some shit unless they were stolen.
Link Posted: 2/26/2016 12:13:27 AM EDT
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A felon with at least an AK and a Glock.  
Someone is going to be in some shit unless they were stolen.
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A felon with at least an AK and a Glock.  
Someone is going to be in some shit unless they were stolen.



In KS, you do not have to do a back ground check on a personal sale.
Link Posted: 2/26/2016 12:14:05 AM EDT
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A felon with at least an AK and a Glock.  
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Room mate's guns?

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