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Quoted: Red Armor's average price is $80+ per gallon. Saw a deal for 4 gallons and thought I'd pass it on. Split it with some buddies or something. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B094WF7BFZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 View Quote A gallon jug let alone 4 gallon jugs of 2 cycle oil is a hell of a lot of oil. |
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Quoted: Your post have turned into a cock tease. I expect more pics!! Whoops, thought you were the other guy, lol. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Mine took a day to assemble. I had two hiccups. 1) The original case was a short shot and had a void. They sent me a new one and it took a month to arrive. 2) During the assembly process, I noticed the wrist pin was too long. Probably the wrong part, but I carefully chucked it in the lathe and turned it down with carbide tooling. That thing was probably 50-55 Rockwell C. You'll need a crank puller tool set and a piston ring compressor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221008_135958-2593020.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221007_192412-2593022.jpg Your post have turned into a cock tease. I expect more pics!! Whoops, thought you were the other guy, lol. Lol, FWIW: MS 660 build: MS 200T build: |
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Quoted: Lol, FWIW: MS 660 build: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221008_150948-2593410.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221008_163220-2593412.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221008_183855-2556203.jpg MS 200T build: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221023_002140-2593413.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221023_002840-2593414.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221023_103642-2593416.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221023_130557-2593417.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221023_140429-2593418.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/130046/20221029_140004-2584203.jpg View Quote Great pics, thanks for those. Your opinion on OEM vs China made ? EDIT: Would you recommend any oem parts to use in a China build ? Carb, aftermarket piston, etc.. @Rock_Ranger |
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Quoted: Great pics, thanks for those. Your opinion on OEM vs China made ? EDIT: Would you recommend any oem parts to use in a China build ? Carb, aftermarket piston, etc.. @Rock_Ranger View Quote OEM is better quality, hands down. I've worked in manufacturing for a long time, and there are many little details that make a Stihl saw great. Stihl will always be my primary saw. That said, reproducing engines is something China does a decent job at. The quality difference is in the details. (Like the short shot on my die cast case) The Farmertec saws are good for a secondary or mill saw, something you can afford to have break down. I would only recommend you buy one of you are familar with how saws work and go together. I needed to debur and file parts to improve the fit and finish. Minor stuff, things that should have been done during the final stages of mfg, but would effect final assembly. (My brake did not work right because the dies that stamped it were wore out and it left a nasty burr on the edge. Had to file it off.) Some people use OEM parts in the build. I did this for fun, so I used all the provided parts and with a little work, everything went together fine and fired right up faster than expected. |
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Quoted: OEM is better quality, hands down. I've worked in manufacturing for a long time, and there are many little details that make a Stihl saw great. Stihl will always be my primary saw. That said, reproducing engines is something China does a decent job at. The quality difference is in the details. (Like the short shot on my die cast case) The Farmertec saws are good for a secondary or mill saw, something you can afford to have break down. I would only recommend you buy one of you are familar with how saws work and go together. I needed to debur and file parts to improve the fit and finish. Minor stuff, things that should have been done during the final stages of mfg, but would effect final assembly. (My brake did not work right because the dies that stamped it were wore out and it left a nasty burr on the edge. Had to file it off.) Some people use OEM parts in the build. I did this for fun, so I used all the provided parts and with a little work, everything went together fine and fired right up faster tham expected. View Quote Appreciate the report. If I did one, it would just be for fun. |
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Quoted: Appreciate the report. If I did one, it would just be for fun. View Quote One additional point, I really hate all the new EPA features on newer saws like fixed oilers and limited adjustment on the carbs. The clone saws are all older designs with fully adjustable carbs and real chain oilers. The only Stihl that was truely a disappointment was an edger I was given because it didn't run right. The carb was 100% non-adjuatable, couldn't even change idle speed. I replaced it with a Chy-na carb and it ran amazing. |
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Quoted: One additional point, I really hate all the new EPA features on newer saws like fixed oilers and limited adjustment on the carbs. The clone saws are all older designs with fully adjustable carbs and real chain oilers. The only Stihl that was truely a disappointment was an edger I was given because it didn't run right. The carb was 100% non-adjuatable, couldn't even change idle speed. I replaced it with a Chy-na carb and it ran amazing. View Quote Wait, you mean you can't adjust some oilers? That's news. To be fair, I don't know that I've checked my new electric pole saw. Used it all of twice for minimal time, and only checked that oil was coming out at all. |
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Quoted: Wait, you mean you can't adjust some oilers? That's news. To be fair, I don't know that I've checked my new electric pole saw. Used it all of twice for minimal time, and only checked that oil was coming out at all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: One additional point, I really hate all the new EPA features on newer saws like fixed oilers and limited adjustment on the carbs. The clone saws are all older designs with fully adjustable carbs and real chain oilers. The only Stihl that was truely a disappointment was an edger I was given because it didn't run right. The carb was 100% non-adjuatable, couldn't even change idle speed. I replaced it with a Chy-na carb and it ran amazing. Wait, you mean you can't adjust some oilers? That's news. To be fair, I don't know that I've checked my new electric pole saw. Used it all of twice for minimal time, and only checked that oil was coming out at all. The homeowner series saws from Stihl do not have adjustable oilers, can't speak for any other brand. |
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Quoted: The homeowner series saws from Stihl do not have adjustable oilers, can't speak for any other brand. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: One additional point, I really hate all the new EPA features on newer saws like fixed oilers and limited adjustment on the carbs. The clone saws are all older designs with fully adjustable carbs and real chain oilers. The only Stihl that was truely a disappointment was an edger I was given because it didn't run right. The carb was 100% non-adjuatable, couldn't even change idle speed. I replaced it with a Chy-na carb and it ran amazing. Wait, you mean you can't adjust some oilers? That's news. To be fair, I don't know that I've checked my new electric pole saw. Used it all of twice for minimal time, and only checked that oil was coming out at all. The homeowner series saws from Stihl do not have adjustable oilers, can't speak for any other brand. Could also be further price-point-engineering from them. Pole saw is one thing, but I'm never buying a "homeowner" main saw again. Had to explain to my wife when I picked a Husky over a Stihl, it wasn't because Husky is better. I just happened to prefer their stuff, and got a better quality one within the brand, and that I sure as crap could have gotten a cheap Husky. |
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Quoted: The homeowner series saws from Stihl do not have adjustable oilers, can't speak for any other brand. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: One additional point, I really hate all the new EPA features on newer saws like fixed oilers and limited adjustment on the carbs. The clone saws are all older designs with fully adjustable carbs and real chain oilers. The only Stihl that was truely a disappointment was an edger I was given because it didn't run right. The carb was 100% non-adjuatable, couldn't even change idle speed. I replaced it with a Chy-na carb and it ran amazing. Wait, you mean you can't adjust some oilers? That's news. To be fair, I don't know that I've checked my new electric pole saw. Used it all of twice for minimal time, and only checked that oil was coming out at all. The homeowner series saws from Stihl do not have adjustable oilers, can't speak for any other brand. Yeah, my MS 291 has a fixed oiler. The oiler is set at the MINIMUM rate that the older MS 290s could deliver. It sucks. I bought a spare oiler pump to figure out how to re-engineer it for more flow. Hint, it's not easy. Also the newer saw carbs have limiters on the adjustment screws. Most of the time you can break them off if you need more adjustment. It's sad, the 291 is not some joe blow homeowner saw. It sits in the middle between homeowner crap and the pro saws. I've thought about selling it for an older 290, but it actaully runs better, just has a shit oiler. In retrospec, I wish I had bought a MS 261, but I didnt know better at the time. |
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Quoted: Could also be further price-point-engineering from them. Pole saw is one thing, but I'm never buying a "homeowner" main saw again. Had to explain to my wife when I picked a Husky over a Stihl, it wasn't because Husky is better. I just happened to prefer their stuff, and got a better quality one within the brand, and that I sure as crap could have gotten a cheap Husky. View Quote 545 mkii is the lowest I will go. Never again will I get a consumer saw. |
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Quoted: Yeah, my MS 291 has a fixed oiler. The oiler is set at the MINIMUM rate that the older MS 290s could deliver. It sucks. I bought a spare oiler pump to figure out how to re-engineer it for more flow. Hint, it's not easy. Also the newer saw carbs have limiters on the adjustment screws. Most of the time you can break them off if you need more adjustment. It's sad, the 291 is not some joe blow homeowner saw. It sits in the middle between homeowner crap and the pro saws. I've thought about selling it for an older 290, but it actaully runs better, just has a shit oiler. In retrospec, I wish I had bought a MS 261, but I didnt know better at the time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: One additional point, I really hate all the new EPA features on newer saws like fixed oilers and limited adjustment on the carbs. The clone saws are all older designs with fully adjustable carbs and real chain oilers. The only Stihl that was truely a disappointment was an edger I was given because it didn't run right. The carb was 100% non-adjuatable, couldn't even change idle speed. I replaced it with a Chy-na carb and it ran amazing. Wait, you mean you can't adjust some oilers? That's news. To be fair, I don't know that I've checked my new electric pole saw. Used it all of twice for minimal time, and only checked that oil was coming out at all. The homeowner series saws from Stihl do not have adjustable oilers, can't speak for any other brand. Yeah, my MS 291 has a fixed oiler. The oiler is set at the MINIMUM rate that the older MS 290s could deliver. It sucks. I bought a spare oiler pump to figure out how to re-engineer it for more flow. Hint, it's not easy. Also the newer saw carbs have limiters on the adjustment screws. Most of the time you can break them off if you need more adjustment. It's sad, the 291 is not some joe blow homeowner saw. It sits in the middle between homeowner crap and the pro saws. I've thought about selling it for an older 290, but it actaully runs better, just has a shit oiler. In retrospec, I wish I had bought a MS 261, but I didnt know better at the time. In my opinion Stihl has an odd marketing lineup, the pro saws make sense, the "homeowner" saws make sense but then they have the Farm Boss type saws that they market to be between pro & homeowner. From a feature standpoint, they're just larger homeowner saws, clamshell designs, non-adjustable oilers....etc. I say this as someone who's owned a couple 271's. I won't buy another saw that's not a pro series, I use my saws enough to justify the extra upfront cost. |
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I worked in the woods for 15yrs, had 2 stroke motors my whole life, ONLY 50:1, unless you're dumb.??
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The cheap Poulan is going to see some action today !
Running great now, pretty happy with that part of it, just have to find out how it cuts. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/AEBD89B7-3FA0-4407-8D84-D5180CCFD598-2595460.jpg View Quote Become UNGOVERNABLE and remove the sticker so anyone can use it |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/AEBD89B7-3FA0-4407-8D84-D5180CCFD598-2595460.jpg View Quote So a chainsaw thread that turns in to a chainsaw snob thread ? We may as well have a Scag mower thread included in this one. I just thought is was a saw thread and not a dick measuring contest. |
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Quoted: So a chainsaw thread that turns in to a chainsaw snob thread ? We may as well have a Scag mower thread included in this one. I just thought is was a saw thread and not a dick measuring contest. View Quote Any saw is welcome, as long as it is a chainsaw. Nobody wants to see stinking mowers here. |
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Quoted: So a chainsaw thread that turns in to a chainsaw snob thread ? We may as well have a Scag mower thread included in this one. I just thought is was a saw thread and not a dick measuring contest. View Quote Try not to get butthurt over humor. I'm not a pro if it helps your feelings. I will not send dick pics unless you send yours first. |
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Quoted: Try not to get butthurt over humor. I'm not a pro if it helps your feelings. I will not send dick pics unless you send yours first. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So a chainsaw thread that turns in to a chainsaw snob thread ? We may as well have a Scag mower thread included in this one. I just thought is was a saw thread and not a dick measuring contest. Try not to get butthurt over humor. I'm not a pro if it helps your feelings. I will not send dick pics unless you send yours first. Only pics should be saw pics, speaking of which how is the project coming along? |
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Quoted: Try not to get butthurt over humor. I'm not a pro if it helps your feelings. I will not send dick pics unless you send yours first. View Quote Never was a fan of Nixon. LOL My post was in jest, it's just how things naturally progress here. You know, like somebody looking for advice about airguns with a budget of $200. |
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Quoted: Just got back from the stihl store, they had a safety bag on sale with all the safety gear in it. I am tired of the 'safety squint' https://products.blains.com/600/131/1314772.jpg View Quote @TaxPayer77 Did you have to purchase anything to get the $30 off. Thinking about that as Christmas gifts. |
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Quoted: Holy hell, that just gave me an idea.... The local TSC has a cylinder on clearance, but not sure it has enough force....looks like its limited to around 10-11tons. I have a 3rd function on my tractor, extra hydraulic hoses and fittings, and a piece of I-beam that should work. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/Screenshot_20221031-085731_YouTube-2582654.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/Screenshot_20221031-085658_YouTube-2582655.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/Screenshot_20221031-085947_YouTube-2582656.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/Screenshot_20221031-085456_YouTube-2582657.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/Screenshot_20221031-085528_YouTube-2582658.jpg Holy hell, that just gave me an idea.... The local TSC has a cylinder on clearance, but not sure it has enough force....looks like its limited to around 10-11tons. I have a 3rd function on my tractor, extra hydraulic hoses and fittings, and a piece of I-beam that should work. Cylinder Force and Speed calculator: https://www.surpluscenter.com/Tech-Help/Hydraulics/Calculators/Cylinder-Force-Speed/ |
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Once you get a Stihl pro saw, you understand why. Not a pro feller.
Yesterday - my neighbor came over saying he got two saws stuck in a tree that was down, so I was like ok, do you need a third saw? I said don't cut the compression again, start cutting further down to take the weight off and cut the tension side. He thought I was speaking greek. He then ignored my suggestion and started pinching my saw (the third saw) but luckily was able to yank it out without bending the bar. I haven't pinched a bar in years, but I did let go of my 261 and as the tree fell it kicked and put a hole in the mag case. That tree was all kinds of sktechy, 16-18 inch beech snapped halfway up hung up in a Y of another tree at 90 degrees. I ran for my life without the saw when it started going. Like that remix with, oh lord jesus it's a fayr. |
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Quoted: @TaxPayer77 Did you have to purchase anything to get the $30 off. Thinking about that as Christmas gifts. View Quote No I didn't have to buy anything. They had a pile of hte bags, could have been just they wanted to move them since the cutting season is about over perhaps with snow in the forecast. My kids were running around the yard with the gear on like they were darth vader. The ear muffs are a bit tight. Could just be new and needs breaking in. It is all plastic, helmet is comfy enough. Chaps clip on so that is neat, easy on easy off. |
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Thanks Taxpayer. They have it on their Stihl website, so I assume it’s nationwide.
Going by my dealer today. |
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Quoted: In my opinion Stihl has an odd marketing lineup, the pro saws make sense, the "homeowner" saws make sense but then they have the Farm Boss type saws that they market to be between pro & homeowner. From a feature standpoint, they're just larger homeowner saws, clamshell designs, non-adjustable oilers....etc. I say this as someone who's owned a couple 271's. I won't buy another saw that's not a pro series, I use my saws enough to justify the extra upfront cost. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: One additional point, I really hate all the new EPA features on newer saws like fixed oilers and limited adjustment on the carbs. The clone saws are all older designs with fully adjustable carbs and real chain oilers. The only Stihl that was truely a disappointment was an edger I was given because it didn't run right. The carb was 100% non-adjuatable, couldn't even change idle speed. I replaced it with a Chy-na carb and it ran amazing. Wait, you mean you can't adjust some oilers? That's news. To be fair, I don't know that I've checked my new electric pole saw. Used it all of twice for minimal time, and only checked that oil was coming out at all. The homeowner series saws from Stihl do not have adjustable oilers, can't speak for any other brand. Yeah, my MS 291 has a fixed oiler. The oiler is set at the MINIMUM rate that the older MS 290s could deliver. It sucks. I bought a spare oiler pump to figure out how to re-engineer it for more flow. Hint, it's not easy. Also the newer saw carbs have limiters on the adjustment screws. Most of the time you can break them off if you need more adjustment. It's sad, the 291 is not some joe blow homeowner saw. It sits in the middle between homeowner crap and the pro saws. I've thought about selling it for an older 290, but it actaully runs better, just has a shit oiler. In retrospec, I wish I had bought a MS 261, but I didnt know better at the time. In my opinion Stihl has an odd marketing lineup, the pro saws make sense, the "homeowner" saws make sense but then they have the Farm Boss type saws that they market to be between pro & homeowner. From a feature standpoint, they're just larger homeowner saws, clamshell designs, non-adjustable oilers....etc. I say this as someone who's owned a couple 271's. I won't buy another saw that's not a pro series, I use my saws enough to justify the extra upfront cost. That's one of the reasons my old Stihl dealer (RIP Randy) refused to sell the Farm type saws; t was either homeowner or pro. Of course, I needed a good saw, so Pro it was (MS-362CM). He said the Farm type saws weren't worth the extra expense. |
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Quoted: Thanks Taxpayer. They have it on their Stihl website, so I assume it’s nationwide. Going by my dealer today. View Quote It could have been me, I dropped off two chains to sharpen and sweet talked the lady behind the counter, maybe have been the owner's wife, not sure, they are new ownership so I didn't recognize them. |
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Quoted: Light weight saws are like skinny gals..I really like em https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/23A116DD-A472-4808-83C7-2DEE538845BB-2595960.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/D94B4874-7ACA-4A7D-B69F-52266E38774C-2595965.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/7BC39351-2166-41A0-9F4E-9EF557A2FD45-2595966.jpg View Quote I don’t climb trees but still want a small top handle….I might have a sickness |
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Quoted: Light weight saws are like skinny gals..I really like em https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/23A116DD-A472-4808-83C7-2DEE538845BB-2595960.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/D94B4874-7ACA-4A7D-B69F-52266E38774C-2595965.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/7BC39351-2166-41A0-9F4E-9EF557A2FD45-2595966.jpg View Quote I want to do that with a Husky 340. Maybe this winter. |
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I feel like an ass. Had 2 people ask me to borrow my saw this morning and turned them down.
I have never had good luck lending out tools of any sort and not about to test that luck today. |
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Quoted: I feel like an ass. Had 2 people ask me to borrow my saw this morning and turned them down. I have never had good luck lending out tools of any sort and not about to test that luck today. View Quote Luckily around here, everyone has their own saws. If I was living in a place where that wasn't a thing I would have a beater loaner saw for junk like that. |
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Quoted: I feel like an ass. Had 2 people ask me to borrow my saw this morning and turned them down. I have never had good luck lending out tools of any sort and not about to test that luck today. View Quote My standard answer is no on tools. If family (that I like) or really good friend then I will go help them, but not a big loan out guy. |
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Quoted: I feel like an ass. Had 2 people ask me to borrow my saw this morning and turned them down. I have never had good luck lending out tools of any sort and not about to test that luck today. View Quote Never ever loan out a chainsaw and expect it to be returned intact. Nails, fence, dull chain. Pays to have an old loaner. I heard a lot of chainsaws have been shipped to Florida for cleanup. People that have never held a chainsaw are buying them regardless of price. |
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Quoted: Never was a fan of Nixon. LOL My post was in jest, it's just how things naturally progress here. You know, like somebody looking for advice about airguns with a budget of $200. View Quote What is cool about saws is even the low budget ones can be upgraded. Not everyone needs a pro saw but all saws could use a muffler mod. |
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Quoted: MS361 just needs to be put back together...I've torn it down 3 times to increase intake porting, new piston ring ..etc Echo 2511T need a final tune for the muffler-mod, gonna tune it with 12" bar, lil saw screams..maybe too much Mod turned it into a completely different saw, hope it can handle the extra rpm's Currently in vice sharpening new Oregon chain, I love this lil saw. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/5D493F3E-5252-4395-8ECD-AA02D4520692-2595927.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/5B66EA64-EE89-40A3-8345-612BFDA0A99C-2595928.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/5B8BA28F-ED1D-43AA-AB48-AC227C339A42-2595929.jpg View Quote I don't know why but I am most impressed with this Echo saw, maybe it is that muffler job. |
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Quoted: My standard answer is no on tools. If family (that I like) or really good friend then I will go help them, but not a big loan out guy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I feel like an ass. Had 2 people ask me to borrow my saw this morning and turned them down. I have never had good luck lending out tools of any sort and not about to test that luck today. My standard answer is no on tools. If family (that I like) or really good friend then I will go help them, but not a big loan out guy. I refer people to Home Depot if they are looking for a loaner. |
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