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Posted: 6/8/2016 1:19:26 AM EST
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Late bump, but I only just now saw the film tonight; never got a chance to see it in theaters, ordered the blu-ray unseen. Totally agree.  I haven't had a movie piss me off that much in a long time.
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Did you notice they made a point of showing that only 2 Delta boys showed up in Tripoli, and then when they greater the Cheif, they said "we are tasked with sensitive document destruction"? It seemed to be made a very pointed stab at someone. They were there for the documents, not so much to save anyone. At the end, the C130 shows up to pick up the bodies and it's a Libyan flagged bird......he says.."still, no Americans" 
Someone should hang.
Totally agree. I haven't had a movie piss me off that much in a long time.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 8:14:25 AM EST
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Totally agree. I haven't had a movie piss me off that much in a long time.
I don't let that shit bother me. It's what they signed up for and anyone in that line of work assumes that they're expendable. That's just the name of that game. No one likes it and I certainely don't but if you're going be a gun for hire you have to assume that at one point or another your ass is going to hang out there. I'm aware of a battle that took place in AFG in early 2002 that was fought by about 6 CTRS. A compound was attacked and they sucked up 100's of RPGs, all the while killing lots of mother fuckers...lots. One guy stayed in a guard tower acting as an RPG magnet so he could call out bad guy locations. There was no support and the reson these guys were able to walk away was because they were able to lay waste to the bad guys. You'll never read about this and they'll never be a movie. Same as Benghazi....had no one been killed you'd have never have heard of it. That's because this shit happens on a fairly regular basis. Just the name of the game. BTW, the OPCEN for the guys I just mentioned was at a CIV company back in the states via SAT phone. Think about that. I can say with certainty that relief tried to get there but was too little/too late. This shit went down in a day....the only solution would to have had an assault force (and A/C, Tankers, Gun-ships, etc...) in Sig on strip alert for the duration of that mission.....months or years as well as HUMINT assets on the ground perpetually for AFO. The world is way to busy to commit those assets as they're off killing people in other places. Nope, it's dangerous work and it's God's work but at the end of the day these boys signed up for the program. It's easy to blame Sec State Clinton but the reality is that these Ops have gone on long before her and will go on long after. I'm not trying to make light of their deaths but perhaps just add perspective. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:11:48 AM EST
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I don't let that shit bother me. It's what they signed up for and anyone in that line of work assumes that they're expendable. That's just the name of that game. No one likes it and I certainely don't but if you're going be a gun for hire you have to assume that at one point or another your ass is going to hang out there. I'm aware of a battle that took place in AFG in early 2002 that was fought by about 6 CTRS. A compound was attacked and they sucked up 100's of RPGs, all the while killing lots of mother fuckers...lots. One guy stayed in a guard tower acting as an RPG magnet so he could call out bad guy locations. There was no support and the reson these guys were able to walk away was because they were able to lay waste to the bad guys. You'll never read about this and they'll never be a movie. Same as Benghazi....had no one been killed you'd have never have heard of it. That's because this shit happens on a fairly regular basis. Just the name of the game. BTW, the OPCEN for the guys I just mentioned was at a CIV company back in the states via SAT phone. Think about that. I can say with certainty that relief tried to get there but was too little/too late. This shit went down in a day....the only solution would to have had an assault force (and A/C, Tankers, Gun-ships, etc...) in Sig on strip alert for the duration of that mission.....months or years as well as HUMINT assets on the ground perpetually for AFO. The world is way to busy to commit those assets as they're off killing people in other places. Nope, it's dangerous work and it's God's work but at the end of the day these boys signed up for the program. It's easy to blame Sec State Clinton but the reality is that these Ops have gone on long before her and will go on long after. I'm not trying to make light of their deaths but perhaps just add perspective. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Totally agree. I haven't had a movie piss me off that much in a long time.
I don't let that shit bother me. It's what they signed up for and anyone in that line of work assumes that they're expendable. That's just the name of that game. No one likes it and I certainely don't but if you're going be a gun for hire you have to assume that at one point or another your ass is going to hang out there. I'm aware of a battle that took place in AFG in early 2002 that was fought by about 6 CTRS. A compound was attacked and they sucked up 100's of RPGs, all the while killing lots of mother fuckers...lots. One guy stayed in a guard tower acting as an RPG magnet so he could call out bad guy locations. There was no support and the reson these guys were able to walk away was because they were able to lay waste to the bad guys. You'll never read about this and they'll never be a movie. Same as Benghazi....had no one been killed you'd have never have heard of it. That's because this shit happens on a fairly regular basis. Just the name of the game. BTW, the OPCEN for the guys I just mentioned was at a CIV company back in the states via SAT phone. Think about that. I can say with certainty that relief tried to get there but was too little/too late. This shit went down in a day....the only solution would to have had an assault force (and A/C, Tankers, Gun-ships, etc...) in Sig on strip alert for the duration of that mission.....months or years as well as HUMINT assets on the ground perpetually for AFO. The world is way to busy to commit those assets as they're off killing people in other places. Nope, it's dangerous work and it's God's work but at the end of the day these boys signed up for the program. It's easy to blame Sec State Clinton but the reality is that these Ops have gone on long before her and will go on long after. I'm not trying to make light of their deaths but perhaps just add perspective. I'm sorry that you feel that way. knowing that our defense budget is hundreds of billions of dollars, it's ABSOLUTELY UNFORGIVABLE to put an ambassador in a situation like that. afterall, we're talking about one of 12 "embassy/diplomatic outposts" that are in dangerous areas. not 50 or 60 that we have to protect. it's about 1000 miles from benghazi to Jerusalem, isn't the range of an F16 about 2600 miles? NAS Sigonella is about 500 miles, while it's primarily a supply station, I'm sure we could have parked a couple F16s there for a week while Chris Stevens was in Benghazi. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:16:43 AM EST
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Book and blu ray combo for $20 http://www.target.com/p/13-hours-3-disc-combo-pack-blu-ray-target-exclusive/-/A-50942737#prodSlot=medium_1_1&term=13+hours I'm going to grab that. Good deal. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:17:30 AM EST
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Benghazi is in Libya.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:23:28 AM EST
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Benghazi is in Libya. if that was directed at me, I know where Benghazi is, I was pointing out that if the CIA annex had called the Israelis, they probably would have (and could have) come to help.. point being that our so called leadership did absolutely nothing and they had resources in the area that could have helped. to put an ambassador in any situation where his life is in danger is unacceptable. he is a diplomat, not a warrior. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:24:19 AM EST
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Got it from Amazon yesterday. Will watch tonight!!! Can't wait for the Dolby Atmos sound.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:33:14 AM EST
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I purchased it on Itunes last week and I also picked up the paperback/bd/dvd/hd combo at Target last night.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 1:44:41 PM EST
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I'm sorry that you feel that way. knowing that our defense budget is hundreds of billions of dollars, it's ABSOLUTELY UNFORGIVABLE to put an ambassador in a situation like that. afterall, we're talking about one of 12 "embassy/diplomatic outposts" that are in dangerous areas. not 50 or 60 that we have to protect. it's about 1000 miles from benghazi to Jerusalem, isn't the range of an F16 about 2600 miles? NAS Sigonella is about 500 miles, while it's primarily a supply station, I'm sure we could have parked a couple F16s there for a week while Chris Stevens was in Benghazi. Tough pill to swallow, I know, but it's the way it is. DoS is not DoD and that Ambo knew what he was walking into. The Annex was a covert op and the State mission was a low level diplomatic mission. Shit sandwhich all around but again, I'm not sure what else could have been done given the mission, location and speed at which the situation developed. A fly over is just that and the bad guys were well aware that unless the Libyans supporting the Americans got in the game they had free maneuver to wreck havoc. An AC-130 on station is a different story but agian, no intel and not to mention that gun ships are over tasked as well the manpads o-plently in Benghazi. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 1:49:19 PM EST
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I received my Blu-Ray copy of it yesterday.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 1:53:11 PM EST
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if that was directed at me, I know where Benghazi is, I was pointing out that if the CIA annex had called the Israelis, they probably would have (and could have) come to help.. point being that our so called leadership did absolutely nothing and they had resources in the area that could have helped. to put an ambassador in any situation where his life is in danger is unacceptable. he is a diplomat, not a warrior. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Benghazi is in Libya. if that was directed at me, I know where Benghazi is, I was pointing out that if the CIA annex had called the Israelis, they probably would have (and could have) come to help.. point being that our so called leadership did absolutely nothing and they had resources in the area that could have helped. to put an ambassador in any situation where his life is in danger is unacceptable. he is a diplomat, not a warrior. I was answering the original poster's question in the title. He's been waiting a while for an answer, I just thought I'd help him out. Benghazi is in Libya. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 1:53:32 PM EST
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Tough pill to swallow, I know, but it's the way it is. DoS is not DoD and that Ambo knew what he was walking into. The Annex was a covert op and the State mission was a low level diplomatic mission. Shit sandwhich all around but again, I'm not sure what else could have been done given the mission, location and speed at which the situation developed. A fly over is just that and the bad guys were well aware that unless the Libyans supporting the Americans got in the game they had free maneuver to wreck havoc. An AC-130 on station is a different story but agian, no intel and not to mention that gun ships are over tasked as well the manpads o-plently in Benghazi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sorry that you feel that way. knowing that our defense budget is hundreds of billions of dollars, it's ABSOLUTELY UNFORGIVABLE to put an ambassador in a situation like that. afterall, we're talking about one of 12 "embassy/diplomatic outposts" that are in dangerous areas. not 50 or 60 that we have to protect. it's about 1000 miles from benghazi to Jerusalem, isn't the range of an F16 about 2600 miles? NAS Sigonella is about 500 miles, while it's primarily a supply station, I'm sure we could have parked a couple F16s there for a week while Chris Stevens was in Benghazi. Tough pill to swallow, I know, but it's the way it is. DoS is not DoD and that Ambo knew what he was walking into. The Annex was a covert op and the State mission was a low level diplomatic mission. Shit sandwhich all around but again, I'm not sure what else could have been done given the mission, location and speed at which the situation developed. A fly over is just that and the bad guys were well aware that unless the Libyans supporting the Americans got in the game they had free maneuver to wreck havoc. An AC-130 on station is a different story but agian, no intel and not to mention that gun ships are over tasked as well the manpads o-plently in Benghazi. DoS did have credible threats to US personell in the region and Ambo Stevens did request additional DoS security that was denied by DoS on mulitple occasions leading up to Sept 11, 2012. That is an epic failure period. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 1:57:31 PM EST
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Picked up my blue-ray, dvd, book bundle from Target during my lunch break.
 They were sold out on the shelf but the employee was able to find one in the back for me.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 2:08:11 PM EST
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Happen to walk by a Redbox yesterday and they had it on Blu-Ray. Great movie. Well done.
Quote HistoryQuoted:it's about 1000 miles from benghazi to Jerusalem, isn't the range of an F16 about 2600 miles?
NAS Sigonella is about 500 miles, while it's primarily a supply station, I'm sure we could have parked a couple F16s there for a week while Chris Stevens was in Benghazi. ^^^^ Exactly, my main take a way is if there really was a drone flying over capturing everything in real time, which there probably was, how could: a) There not be any air power dispatched to the area from either the U.S. or U.S. Allie? Right?! A supersonic fighter jet fighter? Maybe refueling was the issue? I really don't know? b) How the POTUS could have a press conference in the Rose Garden the next day and cite protests and a dopey YouTube video. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 2:11:23 PM EST
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Quoted: Saw this in the theater when it came out a few months ago and have been waiting to watch again at home. I have ATT Uverse and Amazon Prime, no sign of it. I asked a friend who has Netflix, and he says it hasn't shown up there either. (Even Star Wars, which was released well after 13 Hours, is available for streaming now.) My theory is hillary has put the kibosh on this movie being released for streaming before the election. Same thing happened 10 years ago with Path to 911, which ABC aired once, I believe, and subsequently the DVD rights were withdrawn because of some less than flattering incidents regarding bubba and his failure to target obl. Anybody heard about 13 Hours becoming available? I saw it in a theater when it first came out and went home and ordered it on Amazon Prime. They finally released it about a month ago. I now own a digital copy of it. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 2:30:15 PM EST
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I was finally able to rent it on Amazon and it was a powerful movie. I've read the book twice but in the movie I found it impossible to follow which character each person was. The only one I could keep track of was Jack. I would rate it up there with Saving Private Ryan for emotional impact and showing what our men in uniform actually do.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 2:33:20 PM EST
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Read the book at home.
Listen to the audio book in the car and office. Watch the movie at home. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 2:50:19 PM EST
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Just buy the book... Get both. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 2:52:03 PM EST
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Just buy the book... Get both. $20 for blue-ray, dvd, and book combined at Target right now. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 3:21:41 PM EST
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$20 for blue-ray, dvd, and book combined at Target right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just buy the book... Get both. $20 for blue-ray, dvd, and book combined at Target right now. Ordered the DVD way back when from Amazon for $18... then just recently bought a used but like new hardcover for $8 $26 shipped for both but hardcover instead of paperback. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 7:03:17 PM EST
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When does it come out on Netflix?
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Posted: 6/8/2016 7:04:18 PM EST
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My Blu-ray arrived today from Amazon...need to find time to watch it.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 7:13:53 PM EST
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My Blu-ray arrived today from Amazon...need to find time to watch it. You will want to watch it more than once. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 8:12:17 PM EST
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Tough pill to swallow, I know, but it's the way it is. DoS is not DoD and that Ambo knew what he was walking into. The Annex was a covert op and the State mission was a low level diplomatic mission. Shit sandwhich all around but again, I'm not sure what else could have been done given the mission, location and speed at which the situation developed. A fly over is just that and the bad guys were well aware that unless the Libyans supporting the Americans got in the game they had free maneuver to wreck havoc. An AC-130 on station is a different story but agian, no intel and not to mention that gun ships are over tasked as well the manpads o-plently in Benghazi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sorry that you feel that way. knowing that our defense budget is hundreds of billions of dollars, it's ABSOLUTELY UNFORGIVABLE to put an ambassador in a situation like that. afterall, we're talking about one of 12 "embassy/diplomatic outposts" that are in dangerous areas. not 50 or 60 that we have to protect. it's about 1000 miles from benghazi to Jerusalem, isn't the range of an F16 about 2600 miles? NAS Sigonella is about 500 miles, while it's primarily a supply station, I'm sure we could have parked a couple F16s there for a week while Chris Stevens was in Benghazi. Tough pill to swallow, I know, but it's the way it is. DoS is not DoD and that Ambo knew what he was walking into. The Annex was a covert op and the State mission was a low level diplomatic mission. Shit sandwhich all around but again, I'm not sure what else could have been done given the mission, location and speed at which the situation developed. A fly over is just that and the bad guys were well aware that unless the Libyans supporting the Americans got in the game they had free maneuver to wreck havoc. An AC-130 on station is a different story but agian, no intel and not to mention that gun ships are over tasked as well the manpads o-plently in Benghazi. being a "tough pill to swallow" is a damn sight from your "I dont let that stuff bother me" comment.. I dont hate your indifference, just like I dont hate hillary clinton for the indifference she displayed with her "what difference at this point does it make, anyway" comment. I feel sorry for you both for your inability to get upset that those men and women were straight up hung out to dry. I hope I never feel that way when an American dies protecting people who were unable to protect their self. I also hope that your disgusting indifference doesn't spread. you may feel it makes you tough, I think it makes you less American. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 9:45:28 PM EST
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I dont hate your indifference, just like I dont hate hillary clinton for the indifference she displayed with her "what difference at this point does it make, anyway" comment. I feel sorry for you both for your inability to get upset that those men and women were straight up hung out to dry. I hope I never feel that way when an American dies protecting people who were unable to protect their self. I also hope that your disgusting indifference doesn't spread. you may feel it makes you tough, I think it makes you less American. What is your profession? |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 9:46:23 PM EST
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Just finished it.
Somebody should have been arrested |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:04:01 PM EST
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I read the book and now saw the movie.
Fuck Hillary Clinton and Barrack Hussein Obama. Screw you media for failing to properly report this story. There was no damn video that sparked protests in the city. Hell, they really didn't even try to hide that. RINO republicans where are you at questioning the people involved in not sending support? F16s were 20 mins away in Italy and you didn't even send them? Didn't even send an American plane to pick up the operators and the dead ambassador. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:23:09 PM EST
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Just saw it earlier. It does piss you off to a degree, but these were hard men that accepted the risk long before this particular action. The bottom line...they fought beside their brothers and kicked some serious ass. Powerful stuff.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:36:52 PM EST
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When does it come out on Netflix? Not sure, but it is at Redbox now. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:42:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read the book and now saw the movie. Fuck Hillary Clinton and Barrack Hussein Obama. Screw you media for failing to properly report this story. There was no damn video that sparked protests in the city. Hell, they really didn't even try to hide that. RINO republicans where are you at questioning the people involved in not sending support? F16s were 20 mins away in Italy and you didn't even send them? Didn't even send an American plane to pick up the operators and the dead ambassador. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:51:27 PM EST
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I saw it tonight as I rented it from the box. It was definitely riveting and makes you ponder how well our higher ups in the government really want to see us fail globally. We barter for the return of a traitor and release many evil men back into the world. We have men and women all over the globe trying to do their job while the pResident goes on a world apology tour. What is happening? I can't imagine the world left for our children.
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:56:43 PM EST
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I dont hate your indifference, just like I dont hate hillary clinton for the indifference she displayed with her "what difference at this point does it make, anyway" comment. I feel sorry for you both for your inability to get upset that those men and women were straight up hung out to dry. I hope I never feel that way when an American dies protecting people who were unable to protect their self. I also hope that your disgusting indifference doesn't spread. you may feel it makes you tough, I think it makes you less American. What is your profession? Disgusting indifference and rationalization...is disgusting. Also, stay focused...occupation/profession doesn't matter. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 10:57:54 PM EST
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I purchased it on Itunes last week and I also picked up the paperback/bd/dvd/hd combo at Target last night. Got my copy today...still haven't watched it. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 11:02:59 PM EST
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The tinfoil is wrapped way too tight around your head. It comes out on DVD June 6. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saw this in the theater when it came out a few months ago and have been waiting to watch again at home. I have ATT Uverse and Amazon Prime, no sign of it. I asked a friend who has Netflix, and he says it hasn't shown up there either. (Even Star Wars, which was released well after 13 Hours, is available for streaming now.) My theory is hillary has put the kibosh on this movie being released for streaming before the election. Same thing happened 10 years ago with Path to 911, which ABC aired once, I believe, and subsequently the DVD rights were withdrawn because of some less than flattering incidents regarding bubba and his failure to target obl. Anybody heard about 13 Hours becoming available? The tinfoil is wrapped way too tight around your head. It comes out on DVD June 6. Thanks for the heads up. Was waiting for it, but didn't know it was already out. Just reserved it at Red Box for pickup tomorrow. 
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Posted: 6/8/2016 11:03:32 PM EST
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I saw it tonight as I rented it from the box. It was definitely riveting and makes you ponder how well our higher ups in the government really want to see us fail globally. We barter for the return of a traitor and release many evil men back into the world. We have men and women all over the globe trying to do their job while the pResident goes on a world apology tour. What is happening? I can't imagine the world left for our children. Success and failure depends on what you think the goal is. The goal was to prevent an airliner from getting shot down by buying up all the loose manpads, manpads that were loose because of US intervention. The other goal was to ship weapons to stir up more shit elsewhere. Saving the people there, not a goal. They could have pulled them out when all the other embassies left, but they had a goal to accomplish. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 11:04:59 PM EST
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I've watched it twice today after getting it yesterday. Great movie. I haven't had that much emotion run through me since BHD.
Here's a few things I think we should take away from this event. The government will outright hang your ass out to dry. It will lie and decieve to further its own end game. The Obama admin helped ISIS gain another foothold in another country by its actions in Libya. Clinton lied, was caught and has continued to lie about the events leading up to 9/11/2012. She is still free and running for president. Think on that. These men, these warriors knew the price that could and in this case was paid. It should give you great hope to know that there are Men of exceptional honor and fortitude still alive and well in our generations that will do the great, right, just and horrible things so we can have all we do. God bless such men. Just a nasty civi. |
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Posted: 6/8/2016 11:44:08 PM EST
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I dont hate your indifference, just like I dont hate hillary clinton for the indifference she displayed with her "what difference at this point does it make, anyway" comment. I feel sorry for you both for your inability to get upset that those men and women were straight up hung out to dry. I hope I never feel that way when an American dies protecting people who were unable to protect their self. I also hope that your disgusting indifference doesn't spread. you may feel it makes you tough, I think it makes you less American. What is your profession? It's not the same kind of work you and I did, that's for damn sure...... |
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Posted: 6/9/2016 6:49:19 AM EST
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Disgusting indifference and rationalization...is disgusting. Also, stay focused...occupation/profession doesn't matter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't hate your indifference, just like I don't hate Hillary Clinton for the indifference she displayed with her "what difference at this point does it make, anyway" comment. I feel sorry for you both for your inability to get upset that those men and women were straight up hung out to dry. I hope I never feel that way when an American dies protecting people who were unable to protect their self. I also hope that your disgusting indifference doesn't spread. you may feel it makes you tough, I think it makes you less American. What is your profession? Disgusting indifference and rationalization...is disgusting. Also, stay focused...occupation/profession doesn't matter. First of all stop insulting me. How dare you suggest that I'm indifferent and rationalizing. Secondly of course profession matters. In other words one's life experiences will shape opinion and view. My intention of posting is thread isn't to derail it into a GD shit show. The OP wanted to know where to get the movie and subsequently a few folks posted how upsetting the movie was. My comments were meant to give a professional perspective on these types of situations, not to diminish the bravery of all of those Americans. If that sounds like I'm trying to be "tough" then so be it. As for Hillary I believe she very well be the anti-Christ but that doesn't change the fact that lying to the American public is pretty normal for any administration. Her, Susan Rice, and the rest soldiered for black Jesus and went out and lied so that the false narrative of how stable N. Africa was and that Islam is the religion of peace could continue through the election. I'd have expected nothing less from that crowd but If we're going to hate HRC, and I do, then let's hate her for the right reasons. As for the response capability I think I've said my piece. If one of you can explain how that could have been done better, given the actual mission parameters, then I'd like to hear it. Start a thread, state your credentials and lay out exactly how that mission should have been conducted. And yes credentials count because otherwise it's sort of just feel-good off gassing. |
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Posted: 6/9/2016 6:53:06 AM EST
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Saw this in the theater when it came out a few months ago and have been waiting to watch again at home. I have ATT Uverse and Amazon Prime, no sign of it. I asked a friend who has Netflix, and he says it hasn't shown up there either. (Even Star Wars, which was released well after 13 Hours, is available for streaming now.) My theory is hillary has put the kibosh on this movie being released for streaming before the election. Same thing happened 10 years ago with Path to 911, which ABC aired once, I believe, and subsequently the DVD rights were withdrawn because of some less than flattering incidents regarding bubba and his failure to target obl. Anybody heard about 13 Hours becoming available? I bought it just last week. |
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Posted: 6/9/2016 9:18:40 AM EST
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I dont hate your indifference, just like I dont hate hillary clinton for the indifference she displayed with her "what difference at this point does it make, anyway" comment. I feel sorry for you both for your inability to get upset that those men and women were straight up hung out to dry. I hope I never feel that way when an American dies protecting people who were unable to protect their self. I also hope that your disgusting indifference doesn't spread. you may feel it makes you tough, I think it makes you less American. What is your profession? I'm in construction, not that it matters.. Quoted:
It's not the same kind of work you and I did, that's for damn sure...... (are you actually implying that only .mil guys have a right to have an opinion?) if those contractors had the same indifference PDM displayed in this thread, they never would have left the annex and we wouldn't be talking about their sacrifice at all. |
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Posted: 6/9/2016 9:22:25 AM EST
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I don't let that shit bother me. It's what they signed up for and anyone in that line of work assumes that they're expendable. That's just the name of that game. No one likes it and I certainely don't but if you're going be a gun for hire you have to assume that at one point or another your ass is going to hang out there. I'm aware of a battle that took place in AFG in early 2002 that was fought by about 6 CTRS. A compound was attacked and they sucked up 100's of RPGs, all the while killing lots of mother fuckers...lots. One guy stayed in a guard tower acting as an RPG magnet so he could call out bad guy locations. There was no support and the reson these guys were able to walk away was because they were able to lay waste to the bad guys. You'll never read about this and they'll never be a movie. Same as Benghazi....had no one been killed you'd have never have heard of it. That's because this shit happens on a fairly regular basis. Just the name of the game. BTW, the OPCEN for the guys I just mentioned was at a CIV company back in the states via SAT phone. Think about that. I can say with certainty that relief tried to get there but was too little/too late. This shit went down in a day....the only solution would to have had an assault force (and A/C, Tankers, Gun-ships, etc...) in Sig on strip alert for the duration of that mission.....months or years as well as HUMINT assets on the ground perpetually for AFO. The world is way to busy to commit those assets as they're off killing people in other places. Nope, it's dangerous work and it's God's work but at the end of the day these boys signed up for the program. It's easy to blame Sec State Clinton but the reality is that these Ops have gone on long before her and will go on long after. I'm not trying to make light of their deaths but perhaps just add perspective. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Totally agree. I haven't had a movie piss me off that much in a long time.
I don't let that shit bother me. It's what they signed up for and anyone in that line of work assumes that they're expendable. That's just the name of that game. No one likes it and I certainely don't but if you're going be a gun for hire you have to assume that at one point or another your ass is going to hang out there. I'm aware of a battle that took place in AFG in early 2002 that was fought by about 6 CTRS. A compound was attacked and they sucked up 100's of RPGs, all the while killing lots of mother fuckers...lots. One guy stayed in a guard tower acting as an RPG magnet so he could call out bad guy locations. There was no support and the reson these guys were able to walk away was because they were able to lay waste to the bad guys. You'll never read about this and they'll never be a movie. Same as Benghazi....had no one been killed you'd have never have heard of it. That's because this shit happens on a fairly regular basis. Just the name of the game. BTW, the OPCEN for the guys I just mentioned was at a CIV company back in the states via SAT phone. Think about that. I can say with certainty that relief tried to get there but was too little/too late. This shit went down in a day....the only solution would to have had an assault force (and A/C, Tankers, Gun-ships, etc...) in Sig on strip alert for the duration of that mission.....months or years as well as HUMINT assets on the ground perpetually for AFO. The world is way to busy to commit those assets as they're off killing people in other places. Nope, it's dangerous work and it's God's work but at the end of the day these boys signed up for the program. It's easy to blame Sec State Clinton but the reality is that these Ops have gone on long before her and will go on long after. I'm not trying to make light of their deaths but perhaps just add perspective. Quoted:
First of all stop insulting me. How dare you suggest that I'm indifferent and rationalizing. Secondly of course profession matters. In other words one's life experiences will shape opinion and view. My intention of posting is thread isn't to derail it into a GD shit show. The OP wanted to know where to get the movie and subsequently a few folks posted how upsetting the movie was. My comments were meant to give a professional perspective on these types of situations, not to diminish the bravery of all of those Americans. If that sounds like I'm trying to be "tough" then so be it. As for Hillary I believe she very well be the anti-Christ but that doesn't change the fact that lying to the American public is pretty normal for any administration. Her, Susan Rice, and the rest soldiered for black Jesus and went out and lied so that the false narrative of how stable N. Africa was and that Islam is the religion of peace could continue through the election. I'd have expected nothing less from that crowd but If we're going to hate HRC, and I do, then let's hate her for the right reasons. As for the response capability I think I've said my piece. If one of you can explain how that could have been done better, given the actual mission parameters, then I'd like to hear it. Start a thread, state your credentials and lay out exactly how that mission should have been conducted. And yes credentials count because otherwise it's sort of just feel-good off gassing. are you bipolar or something? you ABSOLUTELY were INDIFFERENT and RATIONALIZING that their death was "nothing to get upset about". the guy wasn't insulting you. he was commenting on your damn post, using your own damn words.. |
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Posted: 6/9/2016 6:20:02 PM EST
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are you bipolar or something? you ABSOLUTELY were INDIFFERENT and RATIONALIZING that their death was "nothing to get upset about". the guy wasn't insulting you. he was commenting on your damn post, using your own damn words.. Start a thread hero. I'd be more than happy to tune you up construction boy. |
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Posted: 6/9/2016 6:24:31 PM EST
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Watched it twice today back to back.
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Posted: 6/9/2016 6:30:41 PM EST
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I saw it tonight as I rented it from the box. It was definitely riveting and makes you ponder how well our higher ups in the government really want to see us fail globally. We barter for the return of a traitor and release many evil men back into the world. We have men and women all over the globe trying to do their job while the pResident goes on a world apology tour. What is happening? I can't imagine the world left for our children. When you take into account events like this and the massive influx of illegal aliens here and in Europe, the talk of getting rid of borders etc; do you still question the idea that the powers that be want a one world government? |
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Posted: 6/9/2016 6:35:10 PM EST
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Posted: 6/9/2016 6:37:18 PM EST
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I bought my copy off the X-Box One store.
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Posted: 6/9/2016 6:38:00 PM EST
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Just picked up a copy at the local rental store.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 9:05:16 AM EST
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watched it last night. Wow.
I can see it though. Working for the .gov, sections within the same department can't work together without higher approval. I can definitely see the troubles they had with communication/asset sharing |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 9:10:07 AM EST
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My Amazon DVD is sitting on my bar waiting for tonight.
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Posted: 6/10/2016 9:13:42 AM EST
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I read the book.
Just rented the movie from Redbox earlier this week. This is a rare instance where I liked the movie better than the book. It's usually the other way around. |
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