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Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:12:23 PM EDT
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True, but General Washington was a model of self-restraint and propriety.
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I honestly view him as an agent of the Lord. Truly a man sent by Him to lead the world closer to His Word.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:13:40 PM EDT
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He was a cocksman.  I cant keep one wife straight how the hell could you have four women.  


In before arfcom hero comes around with 5.
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Oysters! Also, you did mine then back then had at least three times in testosterone we have now, thanks GMO, estrogen in the water supply, Thanks to birth control pills, and micro plastics.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:16:59 PM EDT
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Not dying for foreigners is Nazism.
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He was a Nazi sympathizer just like Ford.

And yeah, that's where "America first" came from. People that were pro Hitler and the Nazi party.
Not dying for foreigners is Nazism.

Yeah, it was that simple.

Not that they voiced what a great leader Hitler was; and "wow look at the great things he's doing in Germany!".

If the Dims pulled out old Commie slogans to run a campaign today. You'd be right there connecting all the dots.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:17:46 PM EDT
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He was a Nazi sympathizer just like Ford.

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No, "America first" started with Geroge Washington.  Read his farewell address.  Anti-american leftists try to paint America first as Nazis.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:21:21 PM EDT
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Yeah, it was that simple.

Not that they voiced what a great leader Hitler was; and "wow look at the great things he's doing in Germany!".

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Winston Churchill praised Mussolini once upon a time, and while I think he was a piece of shit for other reasons, I also wouldn't call him a black shirt. Opinions are allowed to shift with time.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:21:28 PM EDT
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I don't.  Cheating on your spouse doesn't happen "by accident".
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:23:20 PM EDT
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Holding people to today's sensibilities band virtue's is dumb. What ever you do don't go looking into the secret affairs of the founding father's, you will hate America.
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Thomas Jefferson did not have an affair with Sally Hemmings. This has been debunked time and time again.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:24:12 PM EDT
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13 kids.

Playa-
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:25:46 PM EDT
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No, "America first" started with Geroge Washington.  Read his farewell address.  Anti-american leftists try to paint America first as Nazis.
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He was a Nazi sympathizer just like Ford.

And yeah, that's where "America first" came from. People that were pro Hitler and the Nazi party.



No, "America first" started with Geroge Washington.  Read his farewell address.  Anti-american leftists try to paint America first as Nazis.

When you have Lindeberg and Ford being the biggest symbols of America First movement in the 1930s and saying pro-Nazi policies. Yeah it should be called out if some dbag politician pulls it out of the ether in today's tines. If say the same if Dins did it with Commie movement slogans in the 20s, 30s and 40s
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:26:02 PM EDT
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I admire Malcolm X over the degenerate MLK for the same reasons.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:26:18 PM EDT
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Not dying for Ukraine/bankers is Putinism

Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:27:03 PM EDT
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I learn more here then I did in school.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:29:53 PM EDT
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The most unfunny thing is, these people are deadly serious and believe this you life has no value unless it is being used in the furthest of agendas of people/groups that at best indifferent to your well being, and at worst entire hostile to you, your culture, your rights, freedoms, health, wealth, survival and that of your children.

Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:32:59 PM EDT
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I have a couple of letters that were delivered by him air mail. That's really the only thought I have about him.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:35:42 PM EDT
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He was horrible to that baby. The baby didn't walk until way after he was supposed to because Sr would whip couch pillows at him. Among other horrible things.

I listened to a podcast that made the case for Sr either killing the baby or being in on it.

Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:38:59 PM EDT
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Not dying for Ukraine/bankers is Putinism

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Not dying for Ukraine/bankers is Putinism



Hello brand new account who is pre-emptively defensive about being called pro-Putin, how do you do?  Good news, you'll fit right in!
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:41:02 PM EDT
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Did he sire more than Lindbergh or Musk ?
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:44:53 PM EDT
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The most unfunny thing is, these people are deadly serious and believe this you life has no value unless it is being used in the furthest of agendas of people/groups that at best indifferent to your well being, and at worst entire hostile to you, your culture, your rights, freedoms, health, wealth, survival and that of your children.

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Not dying for foreigners is Nazism.



The most unfunny thing is, these people are deadly serious and believe this you life has no value unless it is being used in the furthest of agendas of people/groups that at best indifferent to your well being, and at worst entire hostile to you, your culture, your rights, freedoms, health, wealth, survival and that of your children.




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Here come the quacky new account posters.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:51:35 PM EDT
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When you have Lindeberg and Ford being the biggest symbols of America First movement in the 1930s and saying pro-Nazi policies. Yeah it should be called out if some dbag politician pulls it out of the ether in today's tines. If say the same if Dins did it with Commie movement slogans in the 20s, 30s and 40s
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Can I get some quotes?

Because saying things like “I don’t support foreign entanglements” or “I oppose the Federal Reserve” or “FDR’s government is filled with Communists” are not “pro-Nazi”


They did with communist slogans/movements, hell the communist had a rally in Madison Square Garden with a giant banner of Dishonst Abe, and weirdly enough demanding we join the war.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:55:34 PM EDT
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He was horrible to that baby. The baby didn't walk until way after he was supposed to because Sr would whip couch pillows at him. Among other horrible things.

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Name of this podcast?
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:55:54 PM EDT
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Have to see pics of the wives to assign blame.

I will say that when a good looking woman decides to put the leg on you it's going to test your morals like nothing else.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 5:57:09 PM EDT
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When you have Lindeberg and Ford being the biggest symbols of America First movement in the 1930s and saying pro-Nazi policies. Yeah it should be called out if some dbag politician pulls it out of the ether in today's tines. If say the same if Dins did it with Commie movement slogans in the 20s, 30s and 40s
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He was a Nazi sympathizer just like Ford.

And yeah, that's where "America first" came from. People that were pro Hitler and the Nazi party.



No, "America first" started with Geroge Washington.  Read his farewell address.  Anti-american leftists try to paint America first as Nazis.

When you have Lindeberg and Ford being the biggest symbols of America First movement in the 1930s and saying pro-Nazi policies. Yeah it should be called out if some dbag politician pulls it out of the ether in today's tines. If say the same if Dins did it with Commie movement slogans in the 20s, 30s and 40s



ANd George Washington?   Call him out too?  Just because the American bund warped the principle of America First that was first set out by George Washington in an effort to keep the US out of the war and thereby give Hitler room to work does not make that a Nazi principle nor slogan.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 6:00:43 PM EDT
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Hello brand new account who is pre-emptively defensive about being called pro-Putin, how do you do?  Good news, you'll fit right in!
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You can’t understand sarcasm? That blows. I am Dagoth-Ur leader of the 6th tribe and house unmourned.

You might have seen my many interviews with Joe Rogan.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 6:02:27 PM EDT
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He appears to have been damn good at laying pipe.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 6:05:55 PM EDT
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ANd George Washington?   Call him out too?  Just because the American bund warped the principle of America First that was first set out by George Washington in an effort to keep the US out of the war and thereby give Hitler room to work does not make that a Nazi principle nor slogan.
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He was a Nazi sympathizer just like Ford.

And yeah, that's where "America first" came from. People that were pro Hitler and the Nazi party.



No, "America first" started with Geroge Washington.  Read his farewell address.  Anti-american leftists try to paint America first as Nazis.

When you have Lindeberg and Ford being the biggest symbols of America First movement in the 1930s and saying pro-Nazi policies. Yeah it should be called out if some dbag politician pulls it out of the ether in today's tines. If say the same if Dins did it with Commie movement slogans in the 20s, 30s and 40s



ANd George Washington?   Call him out too?  Just because the American bund warped the principle of America First that was first set out by George Washington in an effort to keep the US out of the war and thereby give Hitler room to work does not make that a Nazi principle nor slogan.

I don't see any evidence Washington created it.

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And can you go around unabashedly drawing Swastikas and feinting ignorance and telling everybody "those are Swastikas I drew. Those are actually ancient Nordic runes."??

The stain cannot be washed away.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 6:14:26 PM EDT
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Name of this podcast?
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He was horrible to that baby. The baby didn't walk until way after he was supposed to because Sr would whip couch pillows at him. Among other horrible things.

I listened to a podcast that made the case for Sr either killing the baby or being in on it.



Name of this podcast?


Sorry, yt not podcast.

I think it was this one.

What most likely happened to the Lindbergh baby


But this is also in my history.

Charles Lindbergh - Did He Take His Son's Life?
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 6:14:32 PM EDT
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I don't see any evidence Washington created it.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84024/Screenshot_20231205_170031_Chrome_jpg-3050438.JPG

And can you go around unabashedly drawing Swastikas and feinting ignorance and telling everybody "those are Swastikas I drew. Those are actually ancient Nordic runes."??

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You used Wikipedia? Why?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=george+washington+America+First+foreign+entanglement&va=d&t=hk&ia=web

Happy reading and long learning
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 6:14:42 PM EDT
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What did Buffalo Bill do?
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 6:16:33 PM EDT
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Most of us have read these comments, and I'm not contradicting the comments.  I'd appreciate cites to original and official sources.

Nobody disrespects Lindbergh's capabilities as an aviator, but his being able to use a then-modern aircraft (which he had never flown previously) and to modify it its' use in a way that nobody had thought about previously seems a bit much, to me.

That said (and debatable), OP speaks more to his honesty and integrity as a Man, Husband, and as a Father.
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Lindberg was also very important in showing Pacific P-38 pilots how to get maximum range from their aircraft with mixture & rpm controls.

He demonstrated how United States Marine Corps Aviation pilots could take off safely with a bomb load double the Vought F4U Corsair fighter-bomber's rated capacity. At the time, several Marine squadrons were flying bomber escorts to destroy the Japanese stronghold of Rabaul, New Britain, in the Australian Territory of New Guinea. On May 21, 1944, Lindbergh flew his first combat mission: a strafing run with VMF-222 near the Japanese garrison of Rabaul. He also flew with VMF-216, from the Marine Air Base at Torokina, Bougainville. Lindbergh was escorted on one of these missions by Lt. Robert E. (Lefty) McDonough, who refused to fly with Lindbergh again, as he did not want to be known as "the guy who killed Lindbergh".

In his six months in the Pacific in 1944, Lindbergh took part in fighter bomber raids on Japanese positions, flying 50 combat missions (again as a civilian). His innovations in the use of Lockheed P-38 Lightning fighters impressed a supportive Gen. Douglas MacArthur. Lindbergh introduced engine-leaning techniques to P-38 pilots, greatly improving fuel consumption at cruise speeds, enabling the long-range fighter aircraft to fly longer-range missions. P-38 pilot Warren Lewis quoted Lindbergh's fuel-saving settings, "He said, '... we can cut the RPM down to 1400RPMs and use 30 inches of mercury (manifold pressure), and save 50 100 gallons of fuel on a mission.'" The U.S. Marine and Army Air Force pilots who served with Lindbergh praised his courage and defended his patriotism.

On July 28, 1944, during a P-38 bomber escort mission with the 433rd Fighter Squadron in the Ceram area, Lindbergh shot down a Mitsubishi Ki-51 "Sonia" observation plane, piloted by Captain Saburo Shimada, commanding officer of the 73rd Independent Chutai


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Most of us have read these comments, and I'm not contradicting the comments.  I'd appreciate cites to original and official sources.

Nobody disrespects Lindbergh's capabilities as an aviator, but his being able to use a then-modern aircraft (which he had never flown previously) and to modify it its' use in a way that nobody had thought about previously seems a bit much, to me.

That said (and debatable), OP speaks more to his honesty and integrity as a Man, Husband, and as a Father.


I've only been a pilot for a few years, but, I don't find it surprising that someone could enter an established aviation group, and find that they are religiously doing something that is NOT optimized, and that never occurred to the establishment.  Strict rote and resistance to change, unless it has been studied absolutely to death, is a feature of aviation, not a bug.

Shit, pilots and maintenance still argue about piston engine leaning TODAY.  It's probably the most common argument on the ramp outside of arguing if Cessna, Piper, or Beech are better airplanes, or which EFB is better.
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No man is perfect.
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lol.. "The BALLS made me do it!" is an interesting gambit.

This fucking place, man.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 6:23:18 PM EDT
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People need to see this in the context of the times.  None of the concentration camps or atrocities had occurred yet.   The nazis were vehemently anticommunists and that attracted a lot of interest.  Wehrmacht troops actually thought the Americans would join the fight to crush communism.
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His support for Hitler and then Nazi's pretty much ended any
admiration I ever felt for the man.

People need to see this in the context of the times.  None of the concentration camps or atrocities had occurred yet.   The nazis were vehemently anticommunists and that attracted a lot of interest.  Wehrmacht troops actually thought the Americans would join the fight to crush communism.


I have to admit, I have no idea what led Hitler to go after the Jews and become Genocidal.  

There are some branches of the homo sapiens tree that the World would clearly be better off without - the Jewish people are NOT one of them.  

If we had embraced the ideas of superior genetics, and superior systems, leading to a superior society - and left out the fucking genocide part..........instead just defining the societies with inferior genetics and firewalling them until they faded out.......imagine how much better today's world would be.
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Can I get some quotes?

Because saying things like “I don’t support foreign entanglements” or “I oppose the Federal Reserve” or “FDR’s government is filled with Communists” are not “pro-Nazi”


They did with communist slogans/movements, hell the communist had a rally in Madison Square Garden with a giant banner of Dishonst Abe, and weirdly enough demanding we join the war.
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When you have Lindeberg and Ford being the biggest symbols of America First movement in the 1930s and saying pro-Nazi policies. Yeah it should be called out if some dbag politician pulls it out of the ether in today's tines. If say the same if Dins did it with Commie movement slogans in the 20s, 30s and 40s


Can I get some quotes?

Because saying things like “I don’t support foreign entanglements” or “I oppose the Federal Reserve” or “FDR’s government is filled with Communists” are not “pro-Nazi”


They did with communist slogans/movements, hell the communist had a rally in Madison Square Garden with a giant banner of Dishonst Abe, and weirdly enough demanding we join the war.


"We, the heirs of European culture, are on the verge of a disastrous war, a war within our own family of nations, a war which will reduce the strength and destroy the treasures of the White race, a war which may even lead to the end of our civilization. And while we stand poised for battle, Oriental guns are turning westward, Asia presses towards us on the Russian border, all foreign races stir restlessly. It is time to turn from our quarrels and to build our White ramparts again. This alliance with foreign races means nothing but death to us. It is our turn to guard our heritage from Mongol and Persian and Moor, before we become engulfed in a limitless foreign sea. Our civilization depends on a united strength among ourselves; on strength too great for foreign armies to challenge; on a Western Wall of race and arms which can hold back either a Genghis Khan or the infiltration of inferior blood; on an English fleet, a German air force, a French army, an American nation, standing together as guardians of our common heritage, sharing strength, dividing influence.

We can have peace and security only so long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood, only so long as we guard ourselves against attack by foreign armies and dilution by foreign races.

With all the world around our borders, let us not commit racial suicide by internal conflict. We must learn from Athens, and Sparta before all of Greece is lost."

- Lindbergh, Reader's Digest, 1939
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Understood.  I'm setting aside his "America First" opinions, which are debatable.

I'm fairly certain that Lindbergh had US national interest at heart, but YMMV.

Cheating, for decades, on his wife and family is another thing, IMHO.
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Understood.  I'm setting aside his "America First" opinions, which are debatable.

I'm fairly certain that Lindbergh had US national interest at heart, but YMMV.

Cheating, for decades, on his wife and family is another thing, IMHO.


Lolz, he went and visited Hitler & co.   His Pro-Nazi stance is not “debatable”.   It’s a matter of record.
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Lindberg was also very important in showing Pacific P-38 pilots how to get maximum range from their aircraft with mixture & rpm controls.

He demonstrated how United States Marine Corps Aviation pilots could take off safely with a bomb load double the Vought F4U Corsair fighter-bomber's rated capacity. At the time, several Marine squadrons were flying bomber escorts to destroy the Japanese stronghold of Rabaul, New Britain, in the Australian Territory of New Guinea. On May 21, 1944, Lindbergh flew his first combat mission: a strafing run with VMF-222 near the Japanese garrison of Rabaul. He also flew with VMF-216, from the Marine Air Base at Torokina, Bougainville. Lindbergh was escorted on one of these missions by Lt. Robert E. (Lefty) McDonough, who refused to fly with Lindbergh again, as he did not want to be known as "the guy who killed Lindbergh".

In his six months in the Pacific in 1944, Lindbergh took part in fighter bomber raids on Japanese positions, flying 50 combat missions (again as a civilian). His innovations in the use of Lockheed P-38 Lightning fighters impressed a supportive Gen. Douglas MacArthur. Lindbergh introduced engine-leaning techniques to P-38 pilots, greatly improving fuel consumption at cruise speeds, enabling the long-range fighter aircraft to fly longer-range missions. P-38 pilot Warren Lewis quoted Lindbergh's fuel-saving settings, "He said, '... we can cut the RPM down to 1400RPMs and use 30 inches of mercury (manifold pressure), and save 50–100 gallons of fuel on a mission.'" The U.S. Marine and Army Air Force pilots who served with Lindbergh praised his courage and defended his patriotism.

On July 28, 1944, during a P-38 bomber escort mission with the 433rd Fighter Squadron in the Ceram area, Lindbergh shot down a Mitsubishi Ki-51 "Sonia" observation plane, piloted by Captain Saburo Shimada, commanding officer of the 73rd Independent Chutai


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Lindy still gets a nod of respect from me for “testing” the largest bomb load carried by a single engine fighter in the war onto a Japanese gun emplacement with an F4U.


Lindberg was also very important in showing Pacific P-38 pilots how to get maximum range from their aircraft with mixture & rpm controls.

He demonstrated how United States Marine Corps Aviation pilots could take off safely with a bomb load double the Vought F4U Corsair fighter-bomber's rated capacity. At the time, several Marine squadrons were flying bomber escorts to destroy the Japanese stronghold of Rabaul, New Britain, in the Australian Territory of New Guinea. On May 21, 1944, Lindbergh flew his first combat mission: a strafing run with VMF-222 near the Japanese garrison of Rabaul. He also flew with VMF-216, from the Marine Air Base at Torokina, Bougainville. Lindbergh was escorted on one of these missions by Lt. Robert E. (Lefty) McDonough, who refused to fly with Lindbergh again, as he did not want to be known as "the guy who killed Lindbergh".

In his six months in the Pacific in 1944, Lindbergh took part in fighter bomber raids on Japanese positions, flying 50 combat missions (again as a civilian). His innovations in the use of Lockheed P-38 Lightning fighters impressed a supportive Gen. Douglas MacArthur. Lindbergh introduced engine-leaning techniques to P-38 pilots, greatly improving fuel consumption at cruise speeds, enabling the long-range fighter aircraft to fly longer-range missions. P-38 pilot Warren Lewis quoted Lindbergh's fuel-saving settings, "He said, '... we can cut the RPM down to 1400RPMs and use 30 inches of mercury (manifold pressure), and save 50–100 gallons of fuel on a mission.'" The U.S. Marine and Army Air Force pilots who served with Lindbergh praised his courage and defended his patriotism.

On July 28, 1944, during a P-38 bomber escort mission with the 433rd Fighter Squadron in the Ceram area, Lindbergh shot down a Mitsubishi Ki-51 "Sonia" observation plane, piloted by Captain Saburo Shimada, commanding officer of the 73rd Independent Chutai


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"50 combat missions as a civilian." How did that work? Were there other civilan pilots?
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And you can admire someone professionally while not admiring them personally.
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No man is perfect but Lindgergh contributed a hell of a lot more than he took. Zero tolerance is a very poor policy.
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I have to admit, I have no idea what led Hitler to go after the Jews and become Genocidal.  

There are some branches of the homo sapiens tree that the World would clearly be better off without - the Jewish people are NOT one of them.  

If we had embraced the ideas of superior genetics, and superior systems, leading to a superior society - and left out the fucking genocide part..........instead just defining the societies with inferior genetics and firewalling them until they faded out.......imagine how much better today's world would be.
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His support for Hitler and then Nazi's pretty much ended any
admiration I ever felt for the man.

People need to see this in the context of the times.  None of the concentration camps or atrocities had occurred yet.   The nazis were vehemently anticommunists and that attracted a lot of interest.  Wehrmacht troops actually thought the Americans would join the fight to crush communism.


I have to admit, I have no idea what led Hitler to go after the Jews and become Genocidal.  

There are some branches of the homo sapiens tree that the World would clearly be better off without - the Jewish people are NOT one of them.  

If we had embraced the ideas of superior genetics, and superior systems, leading to a superior society - and left out the fucking genocide part..........instead just defining the societies with inferior genetics and firewalling them until they faded out.......imagine how much better today's world would be.


Was it Margaret Sanger the promoted something like that?
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 6:57:58 PM EDT
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New research may suggest Lindbergh may have been involved with the kidnapping and death of his son also.

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The book says Lindbergh showed little interest in the boy, repeatedly described him as “it” and behaving toward him in a hostile manner several times during the last months of his life.

There of coarse is no solid evidence, but enough to maybe suggest it was possible. But wtf...they let Lindbergh head the investigation of the crime.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 7:01:55 PM EDT
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I bet a lot of guys did it back then because it was so easy to get away with.  Especially if you had a submissive wife who stayed at home all day and didn't work or drive.

Crazy to hear stories about men my grandparents age who had entire families a couple cities over - complete with house, wife, kids and all and neither family knew about the other.  That would be impossible these days with smart phones, GPS, social media, video surveillance cameras, etc.


Link Posted: 12/5/2023 7:02:41 PM EDT
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His support for Hitler and then Nazi's pretty much ended any
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Was he simply "America First" or an actual Nazi sympathizer like Henty Ford or Margaret Sanger?
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 7:02:44 PM EDT
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Name of this podcast?
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He was horrible to that baby. The baby didn't walk until way after he was supposed to because Sr would whip couch pillows at him. Among other horrible things.

I listened to a podcast that made the case for Sr either killing the baby or being in on it.



Name of this podcast?


How about just googling it. There are numerous articles and studies pertaining to Lindbergh maybe being involved. Hell there was even a documentary about.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 7:03:55 PM EDT
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True, but General Washington was a model of self-restraint and propriety.
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Two sides of the same coin.  The traits that drive a person to heroic accomplishments also tend to drive them to unacceptable behaviors.
Often true.  However some very rare people rise above this.  I give, as an example, George Washington.

True, but General Washington was a model of self-restraint and propriety.



Ever heard about his expense account?
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 7:05:14 PM EDT
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"We, the heirs of European culture, are on the verge of a disastrous war, a war within our own family of nations, a war which will reduce the strength and destroy the treasures of the White race, a war which may even lead to the end of our civilization. And while we stand poised for battle, Oriental guns are turning westward, Asia presses towards us on the Russian border, all foreign races stir restlessly. It is time to turn from our quarrels and to build our White ramparts again. This alliance with foreign races means nothing but death to us. It is our turn to guard our heritage from Mongol and Persian and Moor, before we become engulfed in a limitless foreign sea. Our civilization depends on a united strength among ourselves; on strength too great for foreign armies to challenge; on a Western Wall of race and arms which can hold back either a Genghis Khan or the infiltration of inferior blood; on an English fleet, a German air force, a French army, an American nation, standing together as guardians of our common heritage, sharing strength, dividing influence.

We can have peace and security only so long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood, only so long as we guard ourselves against attack by foreign armies and dilution by foreign races.

With all the world around our borders, let us not commit racial suicide by internal conflict. We must learn from Athens, and Sparta before all of Greece is lost."

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When you have Lindeberg and Ford being the biggest symbols of America First movement in the 1930s and saying pro-Nazi policies. Yeah it should be called out if some dbag politician pulls it out of the ether in today's tines. If say the same if Dins did it with Commie movement slogans in the 20s, 30s and 40s


Can I get some quotes?

Because saying things like “I don’t support foreign entanglements” or “I oppose the Federal Reserve” or “FDR’s government is filled with Communists” are not “pro-Nazi”


They did with communist slogans/movements, hell the communist had a rally in Madison Square Garden with a giant banner of Dishonst Abe, and weirdly enough demanding we join the war.


"We, the heirs of European culture, are on the verge of a disastrous war, a war within our own family of nations, a war which will reduce the strength and destroy the treasures of the White race, a war which may even lead to the end of our civilization. And while we stand poised for battle, Oriental guns are turning westward, Asia presses towards us on the Russian border, all foreign races stir restlessly. It is time to turn from our quarrels and to build our White ramparts again. This alliance with foreign races means nothing but death to us. It is our turn to guard our heritage from Mongol and Persian and Moor, before we become engulfed in a limitless foreign sea. Our civilization depends on a united strength among ourselves; on strength too great for foreign armies to challenge; on a Western Wall of race and arms which can hold back either a Genghis Khan or the infiltration of inferior blood; on an English fleet, a German air force, a French army, an American nation, standing together as guardians of our common heritage, sharing strength, dividing influence.

We can have peace and security only so long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood, only so long as we guard ourselves against attack by foreign armies and dilution by foreign races.

With all the world around our borders, let us not commit racial suicide by internal conflict. We must learn from Athens, and Sparta before all of Greece is lost."

- Lindbergh, Reader's Digest, 1939


Lolz.  It’s easy to see why he’s worshipped by many here.    
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 7:06:27 PM EDT
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Holding people to today's sensibilities band virtue's is dumb. What ever you do don't go looking into the secret affairs of the founding father's, you will hate America.
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Correct.

Also, has anyone in this thread ever been a major rock star/celebrity/race car driver/stud pilot?

Do any of you have any IDEA how much free Tier 1 Poontang is thrown at A-List celebrities every single DAY?  I don't think any virile male with a pulse could resist, and I'm sure most have "agreements" with their wives. OK, Tiger didn't, but other than that....
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 7:08:07 PM EDT
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With all the shit going on that has immediate relevance to our lives today...op gets his feathers ruffled over a dead dude.
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Yeah
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 7:12:08 PM EDT
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You are now.
Link Posted: 12/5/2023 7:12:44 PM EDT
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So…… human.
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That's correct. Very troubling connections to Nazis. Getting a little pussy on the side doesn't matter unless your wife gets pissed off. It's no one else's business.
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