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Posted: 2/22/2020 8:02:21 PM EDT
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Illinois checking in with another 6 mile hike. We had four guys all carrying 45lbs and one woman who did 35lbs for the first 3 miles. That data is actually a just a bit short, as I forgot to start my watch until we were a couple minutes in. One of the other members has a more accurate track.
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Posted: 2/22/2020 8:53:49 PM EDT
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Illinois checking in with another 6 mile hike. We had four guys all carrying 45lbs and one woman who did 35lbs for the first 3 miles. That data is actually a just a bit short, as I forgot to start my watch until we were a couple minutes in. One of the other members has a more accurate track. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/461668/bb6mile2_jpg-1287212.JPG 
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Posted: 2/22/2020 11:22:01 PM EDT
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@Ben Just to keep things official. Illinois Battle Boys 3rd Class Qual 1st 6 mile hike Date: 2/15/20 Locale: Springboork Prairie Naperville Il Dist: 6 miles Time:1:50:39 Avg Spd 3.3 45 pound or heavier pack (weighted on scale in front of each other) Members that made the qual hike: Slarti SleepingBirdDog TheRadBaron Redbirdxx Illinois Battle Boys 3rd Class Qual 2nd 6 mile hike Date: 2/22/20 Hike location: Allerton park in Monticello Il. Distance: 6.32 mile hike 2: RedbirdXX and TheRadBaron 45 lbs Time: 1:58.35 We had 2 people (300Blackout and GreenDragon both hiked carried 45lbs) that also did the 6.32 mile hike but have not done the provisional hike yet. Does this hike have to count as 3 provisional and then 3 regular (as going to the total of 18 miles cumulative hiking distance for 3rd class?) or can it count as a regular 6 mile hike? They're asking because they think they can get some other guys together to go on a 3 mile hike to cover the provisional. Last but not least. GreenDragon's wife did 3 miles with 35lbs. I assume that somehow we're keeping track of folks that are not yet on arfcom...if not, then how do we incorporate folks that are not on Arfcom... EDIT: Pic from the hike. 
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Posted: 2/23/2020 12:46:10 AM EDT
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I use an ALICE pack with external frame, and with belt and shoulder straps from a MOLLE rucksack, called a Hellcat. There is a thread somewhere in the tactical gear or outdoor forum on how to build them. ETA external blog post here https://libertytreeblogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/building-hellcat-hybrid-ruck-from-us.html 
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Posted: 2/23/2020 1:33:20 AM EDT
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I'm building that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use an ALICE pack with external frame, and with belt and shoulder straps from a MOLLE rucksack, called a Hellcat. There is a thread somewhere in the tactical gear or outdoor forum on how to build them. ETA external blog post here https://libertytreeblogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/building-hellcat-hybrid-ruck-from-us.html
I'm building that. 
Is this thread supposed to be for tracking ruck "credit"? HRBB did a 6 mile/2 hour ruck today, but not recorded with any kind of app (suggestions? would prefer not to have to make a damn account) |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 1:54:34 AM EDT
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If you have an LG phone, LG health allows step tracking, along with activity. I input that I wanted a walking tracker and it turns on GPS and will tell you distance, time, pace and provides a map of where you went. It doesn't provide trails information like alltrails but it does what I need it to.
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Posted: 2/23/2020 8:55:28 AM EDT
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We had our Pinellas County, FL hike yesterday, full AAR here
Attendees 
Fo Do Junior! 
Surprise! 
On the march 
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Posted: 2/23/2020 11:06:42 AM EDT
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I'm building that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use an ALICE pack with external frame, and with belt and shoulder straps from a MOLLE rucksack, called a Hellcat. There is a thread somewhere in the tactical gear or outdoor forum on how to build them. ETA external blog post here https://libertytreeblogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/building-hellcat-hybrid-ruck-from-us.html
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Posted: 2/23/2020 11:14:40 AM EDT
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I'm building that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use an ALICE pack with external frame, and with belt and shoulder straps from a MOLLE rucksack, called a Hellcat. There is a thread somewhere in the tactical gear or outdoor forum on how to build them. ETA external blog post here https://libertytreeblogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/building-hellcat-hybrid-ruck-from-us.html
I'm building that. I also got fastex buckles for the two straps that hold the top flap onto the ruck so they can be unsnapped at the bottom to flip the flap back and get into the main ruck compartment. A tailor cut the straps and resewed them for $20. I also recommend making a flat square foam pad, wrapping it in green military duct tape, and mounting it to this crossbar I circled so it's not digging into your spine 
Yes, it's a lot of effort, but now it's a VERY durable rucksack that is very comfortable, for less than the price of a less-durable Kelty or Osprey, with lots of exterior pockets instead of having to open the main rucksack compartment every time you need something, as with most civilian packs. |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 11:51:05 AM EDT
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6 of us hiked in Charlotte yesterday, 6 miles in 1:39. Full writeup here courtesy of @qualityhardware. Great meeting everyone!
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Posted: 2/23/2020 2:03:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Ben Illinois Battle Boys 3rd Class Qual 2nd 6 mile hike Date: 2/22/20 Hike location: Allerton park in Monticello Il. Distance: 6.32 mile hike 2: RedbirdXX and TheRadBaron 45 lbs Time: 1:58.35 We had 2 people (300Blackout and GreenDragon both hiked carried 45lbs) that also did the 6.32 mile hike but have not done the provisional hike yet. Does this hike have to count as 3 provisional and then 3 regular (as going to the total of 18 miles cumulative hiking distance for 3rd class?) or can it count as a regular 6 mile hike? They're asking because they think they can get some other guys together to go on a 3 mile hike to cover the provisional. Last but not least. GreenDragon's wife did 3 miles with 35lbs. I assume that somehow we're keeping track of folks that are not yet on arfcom...if not, then how do we incorporate folks that are not on Arfcom... EDIT: Pic from the hike. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/148350/hike_jpg-1287335-1287560.jpg So three 6 mile hikes is still an option, as long as you have 35lbs plus rifle or 45lbs sans rifle, after the initial 3 miles. Qualifying provisionally before starting the road towards 3rd class is not required. A first hike that is to the 3rd class standards exceeds the provisional requirements and would automatically qualify them for provisional while also counting towards 3rd class. The real purpose of provisional ratings is to build extra options for people who want to participate but are unsure of their ability to complete 6 miles to the 3rd class standard initially. |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 2:08:27 PM EDT
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I've got money (more than cost of materials) for someone who wants to build me that.
Is this thread supposed to be for tracking ruck "credit"? HRBB did a 6 mile/2 hour ruck today, but not recorded with any kind of app (suggestions? would prefer not to have to make a damn account) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use an ALICE pack with external frame, and with belt and shoulder straps from a MOLLE rucksack, called a Hellcat. There is a thread somewhere in the tactical gear or outdoor forum on how to build them. ETA external blog post here https://libertytreeblogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/building-hellcat-hybrid-ruck-from-us.html
I'm building that.
Is this thread supposed to be for tracking ruck "credit"? HRBB did a 6 mile/2 hour ruck today, but not recorded with any kind of app (suggestions? would prefer not to have to make a damn account) The purpose of that is to screen folks to make sure they won't be a hazard to themselves or others if participating in higher than average risk training or events. |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 6:09:42 PM EDT
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I have a question about the weight prescription:
I understand why the prescription specifically says "dry weight" ie if you count a full 3L camelbak for your 35 lbs and then drink all of it, you only finish with a 28.5 lb ruck. I have a 2 qt that I never drink out of. It has almost always been on my ruck because a) being on the packing list (sometimes) and b) as a counterbalance for the awkwardly placed weight of my E-tool. In both cases, it has always served the exact same purpose as a 2 kg bag of sand. I would also rig my camelback up to the top of my ruck, one way or another, and I never ran out of water. Obviously, the camelbak, when I start using it again, doesn't count. Can I count the 2 qt? Should I go to York Barbell and get a 2 kg plate? Is this a silly question? |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 6:34:22 PM EDT
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I have a question about the weight prescription: I understand why the prescription specifically says "dry weight" ie if you count a full 3L camelbak for your 35 lbs and then drink all of it, you only finish with a 28.5 lb ruck. I have a 2 qt that I never drink out of. It has almost always been on my ruck because a) being on the packing list (sometimes) and b) as a counterbalance for the awkwardly placed weight of my E-tool. In both cases, it has always served the exact same purpose as a 2 kg bag of sand. I would also rig my camelback up to the top of my ruck, one way or another, and I never ran out of water. Obviously, the camelbak, when I start using it again, doesn't count. Can I count the 2 qt? Should I go to York Barbell and get a 2 kg plate? Is this a silly question? |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 6:56:18 PM EDT
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This is a good cheap quantum of ruck-the plastic is a lot heavier duty than bagged cement.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Vigoro-0-5-cu-ft-Bagged-Pond-Pebbles-54249V/100550970 |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 7:02:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you build one, I strongly suggest using a large ALICE pack instead of medium. It has tremendous room, plus you can attach MOLLE pouches on the sides. That's what I did, and it's a massive amount of space. I also got fastex buckles for the two straps that hold the top flap onto the ruck so they can be unsnapped at the bottom to flip the flap back and get into the main ruck compartment. A tailor cut the straps and resewed them for $20. I also recommend making a flat square foam pad, wrapping it in green military duct tape, and mounting it to this crossbar I circled so it's not digging into your spine https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31480/LgHCback-1287941.jpg Yes, it's a lot of effort, but now it's a VERY durable rucksack that is very comfortable, for less than the price of a less-durable Kelty or Osprey, with lots of exterior pockets instead of having to open the main rucksack compartment every time you need something, as with most civilian packs. It may be that I've just gotten lucky, but I've never had the issue of the cross piece in the middle of the frame digging into my back. Or, maybe I never noticed. I also know about the fastex trick. I didn't have the right size buckles for that until after the hike yesterday. They are on my ruck now. I didn't sew the ends, I just melted them. I attached the female buckles to the bottom sliders with ~12" pieces of 1" nylon webbing and tri-glides. I also have straps on the bottom that are made with ~1yd long pieces of 1.25" nylon webbing with fastex buckles and triglides. You can see those in the picture. They are for a sleeping bag. I think I over built all of this, and will probably replace everything above with 1" polypro webbing. |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 7:11:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you build one, I strongly suggest using a large ALICE pack instead of medium. It has tremendous room, plus you can attach MOLLE pouches on the sides. That's what I did, and it's a massive amount of space. I also got fastex buckles for the two straps that hold the top flap onto the ruck so they can be unsnapped at the bottom to flip the flap back and get into the main ruck compartment. A tailor cut the straps and resewed them for $20. I also recommend making a flat square foam pad, wrapping it in green military duct tape, and mounting it to this crossbar I circled so it's not digging into your spine https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31480/LgHCback-1287941.jpg Yes, it's a lot of effort, but now it's a VERY durable rucksack that is very comfortable, for less than the price of a less-durable Kelty or Osprey, with lots of exterior pockets instead of having to open the main rucksack compartment every time you need something, as with most civilian packs. |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 7:52:42 PM EDT
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If you throw a bag of 1,000 rounds of 556 in your ruck with another 10lbs, you’ll have 35#!!! That’s what I did. It’s simple to hit the weight requirements.
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Posted: 2/23/2020 8:00:14 PM EDT
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If you throw a bag of 1,000 rounds of 556 in your ruck with another 10lbs, you’ll have 35#!!! That’s what I did. It’s simple to hit the weight requirements. |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 8:19:45 PM EDT
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If you add water specifically to provide weight, I am fine with that- provided you have a separate water source. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a question about the weight prescription: I understand why the prescription specifically says "dry weight" ie if you count a full 3L camelbak for your 35 lbs and then drink all of it, you only finish with a 28.5 lb ruck. I have a 2 qt that I never drink out of. It has almost always been on my ruck because a) being on the packing list (sometimes) and b) as a counterbalance for the awkwardly placed weight of my E-tool. In both cases, it has always served the exact same purpose as a 2 kg bag of sand. I would also rig my camelback up to the top of my ruck, one way or another, and I never ran out of water. Obviously, the camelbak, when I start using it again, doesn't count. Can I count the 2 qt? Should I go to York Barbell and get a 2 kg plate? Is this a silly question? Gallon jugs are pretty good weight. Lowes and Home Depot sell 45lb bags of rock salt for $8. There's also sandbags. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 8:18:10 AM EDT
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I would humbly recommend having some of the peripheral elements take a few modules on ICS. They used to be free through FEMA.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:26:38 AM EDT
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I would humbly recommend having some of the peripheral elements take a few modules on ICS. They used to be free through FEMA. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 11:35:49 AM EDT
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I would humbly recommend having some of the peripheral elements take a few modules on ICS. They used to be free through FEMA. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 1:13:27 PM EDT
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I would humbly recommend having some of the peripheral elements take a few modules on ICS. They used to be free through FEMA. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 1:21:17 PM EDT
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Qualifying provisionally before starting the road towards 3rd class is not required. A first hike that is to the 3rd class standards exceeds the provisional requirements and would automatically qualify them for provisional while also counting towards 3rd class. The real purpose of provisional ratings is to build extra options for people who want to participate but are unsure of their ability to complete 6 miles to the 3rd class standard initially. 
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Posted: 2/24/2020 1:23:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2020 1:46:32 PM EDT
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I just ordered one of THESE to try out on my next hike. ALICE medium pack mounted to a MOLLE II frame/strap/belt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/24/2020 3:27:42 PM EDT
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I just ordered one of THESE to try out on my next hike. ALICE medium pack mounted to a MOLLE II frame/strap/belt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm building that. Here is the Army's instructional video for the MOLLE System  Modular Lightweight Load Carrying Equipment (MOLLE) Care and Use Instructional Video |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 4:45:51 PM EDT
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Emerald Coast Battle Buddies checking in (Florida Panhandle)
2/22/20 Hike. thread here. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/Florida-Battle-Buddy-Panhandle-hike-on-2-22-19/10-640974/ 3 mile provisional. 4 Total miles made. 6 Members Total. Everyone made time for Provisional. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 4:49:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you build one, I strongly suggest using a large ALICE pack instead of medium. It has tremendous room, plus you can attach MOLLE pouches on the sides. That's what I did, and it's a massive amount of space. I also got fastex buckles for the two straps that hold the top flap onto the ruck so they can be unsnapped at the bottom to flip the flap back and get into the main ruck compartment. A tailor cut the straps and resewed them for $20. I also recommend making a flat square foam pad, wrapping it in green military duct tape, and mounting it to this crossbar I circled so it's not digging into your spine https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31480/LgHCback-1287941.jpg Yes, it's a lot of effort, but now it's a VERY durable rucksack that is very comfortable, for less than the price of a less-durable Kelty or Osprey, with lots of exterior pockets instead of having to open the main rucksack compartment every time you need something, as with most civilian packs. No offense on bold...but that isnt exactly true these days. The days of sausage stuffing an internal framed pack are kinda over. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 6:42:10 PM EDT
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A good mod to the ALICE is using a USMC FILBE frame.
The waist strap is the same between the FILBE and MOLLE 2. Not sure if the shoulder straps are the same. My experience is with the MOLLE 2 and ALICE only. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 6:50:57 PM EDT
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A good mod to the ALICE is using a USMC FILBE frame. https://image.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/7/713664_ts.jpg https://www.thunderheadoutfitters.com/sites/thunderhead/files/styles/uc_product_full/public/HybridPack05.jpg?itok=tff4lda9 The waist strap is the same between the FILBE and MOLLE 2. Not sure if the shoulder straps are the same. My experience is with the MOLLE 2 and ALICE only. I'd like to try a Mystery Ranch, I've heard great things, but they are NOT cheap |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 6:54:23 PM EDT
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Compared to simply buying a surplus pack with FILBE frame, what’s the cost savings for putting your own together?
I’ve got a few packs, some are pretty good, but now I’m trying to set up three people entirely. These packs are interesting |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 7:10:51 PM EDT
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Neat, I'd never heard of the FILBE rucksacks.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 7:54:40 PM EDT
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@Ben
Quick question- will participants who choose to do the Navy PT test be required to meet standards on weight/height or just score satisfactory on the physical tests themselves? Thanks for any clarification. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 8:20:16 PM EDT
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@Ben Quick question- will participants who choose to do the Navy PT test be required to meet standards on weight/height or just score satisfactory on the physical tests themselves? Thanks for any clarification. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 8:39:31 PM EDT
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Perfect, thanks.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 8:53:20 PM EDT
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I hike with the FILBE frame. I'd like to try a Mystery Ranch, I've heard great things, but they are NOT cheap Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A good mod to the ALICE is using a USMC FILBE frame. https://image.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/7/713664_ts.jpg https://www.thunderheadoutfitters.com/sites/thunderhead/files/styles/uc_product_full/public/HybridPack05.jpg?itok=tff4lda9 The waist strap is the same between the FILBE and MOLLE 2. Not sure if the shoulder straps are the same. My experience is with the MOLLE 2 and ALICE only. I'd like to try a Mystery Ranch, I've heard great things, but they are NOT cheap I am using one of their older NICE frames with the MR Load Sling. I have 40lbs of Ruck Plates stuck in a cheap 15" Laptop Bag, which is tightly strapped in the sling. The 30lb plate fits the laptop compartment exactly, the 10lb plate fits the small pocket exactly. It is a compact load that doesn't shift at all. I keep a bottle of drink in the insulated pouch, the other pouch has a water filter and a blaze orange rainproof packcover in it.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:02:34 PM EDT
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Is there like an official boogaloo/shtf QRF type packing list for a ruck?
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:17:54 PM EDT
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Is there like an official boogaloo/shtf QRF type packing list for a ruck? Here is a basic packing list for a PLDC type course for NCOs: 
If you use military gear, your pack will get heavy fast. Here is a list of gear carried by a woman who thru-hiked the entire Adirondack Trail. She carries 3-4 days worth of food and refills in towns along the way. Her packweight is 26lbs before food/water. Her total carried load is ~40 lbs. If you use modern, civilian outdoor gear you can get your packweight very low and still live comfortable. That means you have more weight to spare for your Hawaiian shirts, nightvision, krab, nut coal, or whatever else you need to tote that is boogaloo specific. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:43:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They aren't cheap, but they are awesome. I am using one of their older NICE frames with the MR Load Sling. I have 40lbs of Ruck Plates stuck in a cheap 15" Laptop Bag, which is tightly strapped in the sling. The 30lb plate fits the laptop compartment exactly, the 10lb plate fits the small pocket exactly. It is a compact load that doesn't shift at all. I keep a bottle of drink in the insulated pouch, the other pouch has a water filter and a blaze orange rainproof packcover in it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58051/20200224_194418_jpg-1290051.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58051/20200224_194514_jpg-1290053.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58051/20200224_194440_jpg-1290055.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58051/20200224_194841_jpg-1290061.JPG Tell me about those extended risers / pack loaders on the NICE frame? |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:09:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would depend entirely on your activity and goals. Typically you'd want personal equipment and sustainment items like spare clothes, wet/cold weather gear, shelter, water/water purification and food. You'll need whatever tactical equipment and gear the mission requires. You'll want first aid/trauma supplies, etc. Here is a basic packing list for a PLDC type course for NCOs: https://212xer2b32i62d5br9bdl3jf-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/b1_2547.gif If you use military gear, your pack will get heavy fast. Here is a list of gear carried by a woman who thru-hiked the entire Adirondack Trail. She carries 3-4 days worth of food and refills in towns along the way. Her packweight is 26lbs before food/water. Her total carried load is ~40 lbs. If you use modern, civilian outdoor gear you can get your packweight very low and still live comfortable. That means you have more weight to spare for your Hawaiian shirts, nightvision, krab, nut coal, or whatever else you need to tote that is boogaloo specific. If anyone was wondering what I meant by needing a large ALICE instead of a medium ALICE because of packing lists that are completely fucking asinine, this post contains a half decent example of such a packing list. Also... LMAO "PLDC"...OK BOOMER!!! 
J/k J/k, I went when it was still called "WLC".
I have a ENO double nest, straps, a rain fly, a dozen tent stakes, 4 empty sand bags, a poncho, ~30 ft of 550, a small roll of 1" gorilla tape, 2 chem lights, a camo compac, a head lamp, a compass, a gerber, a E-tool, A 2qt with two bottles of tablets in the pouch, and a 8 oz spray bottle of 40% deet. In a wet weather bag I have: a woobie, a pillow, 2 pairs of socks, a wool beanie, waterproof parka and pants (Bass Pro Shop substitutes for Gortex Parka and Pants) and a hygene kit that is complete enough to use on a vacation. Oh, and strapped on by my sleeping bag straps, a redundant sleeping pad in case I can't find a place to hang the ENO. All of this in a medium ruck weighs around 26 lbs. with the 2 qt. empty and no food. When I fill up the 2 qt and add a Thermos food jar full of monster mash that gets me to just over 35 lbs. This ruck is also my emergency bag for my car, and it's basic packing reflects this. I would pack it very differently if I were doing any sort of combat operations. Pack what you need. If you aren't sure what you need, pack what you think you need and go camping for 3 days. If you didn't use it, you probably don't need it. If there is something that you realize "aww fuuuuuuuuuck, I shoulda brought...", then you might actually need that. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:12:14 PM EDT
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@verticalgain Tell me about those extended risers / pack loaders on the NICE frame? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: They aren't cheap, but they are awesome. I am using one of their older NICE frames with the MR Load Sling. I have 40lbs of Ruck Plates stuck in a cheap 15" Laptop Bag, which is tightly strapped in the sling. The 30lb plate fits the laptop compartment exactly, the 10lb plate fits the small pocket exactly. It is a compact load that doesn't shift at all. I keep a bottle of drink in the insulated pouch, the other pouch has a water filter and a blaze orange rainproof packcover in it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58051/20200224_194418_jpg-1290051.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58051/20200224_194514_jpg-1290053.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58051/20200224_194440_jpg-1290055.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58051/20200224_194841_jpg-1290061.JPG Tell me about those extended risers / pack loaders on the NICE frame? Here is a stock photo where the extension is a different color that illustrates the idea better than my all-brown pack does. The extension in this picture is OD green: 
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:19:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would depend entirely on your activity and goals. Typically you'd want personal equipment and sustainment items like spare clothes, wet/cold weather gear, shelter, water/water purification and food. You'll need whatever tactical equipment and gear the mission requires. You'll want first aid/trauma supplies, etc. Here is a basic packing list for a PLDC type course for NCOs: https://212xer2b32i62d5br9bdl3jf-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/b1_2547.gif If you use military gear, your pack will get heavy fast. Here is a list of gear carried by a woman who thru-hiked the entire Adirondack Trail. She carries 3-4 days worth of food and refills in towns along the way. Her packweight is 26lbs before food/water. Her total carried load is ~40 lbs. If you use modern, civilian outdoor gear you can get your packweight very low and still live comfortable. That means you have more weight to spare for your Hawaiian shirts, nightvision, krab, nut coal, or whatever else you need to tote that is boogaloo specific. Just wondering if there was an offical (but not really) Boog load out. Since this event is kind of sort of styled militaryish I figured they might have a min packing list. Loading mine up with a ponch liner, poncho, 550 cord and tons of pogey bait. Shit, I still have my issued Y harness with buttpack |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:33:08 PM EDT
[#45]
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I hike with the FILBE frame. I'd like to try a Mystery Ranch, I've heard great things, but they are NOT cheap |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:34:52 PM EDT
[#46]
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Compared to simply buying a surplus pack with FILBE frame, what's the cost savings for putting your own together? I've got a few packs, some are pretty good, but now I'm trying to set up three people entirely. These packs are interesting |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:40:28 PM EDT
[#47]
There maybe a way around slinging a rifle, sling a spotting scope mounted to a rifle stock still have to mount a sling
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:44:03 PM EDT
[#48]
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OOF. PLDC lol . That brings me back lol. Just wondering if there was an offical (but not really) Boog load out. Since this event is kind of sort of styled militaryish I figured they might have a min packing list. Loading mine up with a ponch liner, poncho, 550 cord and tons of pogey bait. Shit, I still have my issued Y harness with buttpack Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It would depend entirely on your activity and goals. Typically you'd want personal equipment and sustainment items like spare clothes, wet/cold weather gear, shelter, water/water purification and food. You'll need whatever tactical equipment and gear the mission requires. You'll want first aid/trauma supplies, etc. Here is a basic packing list for a PLDC type course for NCOs: https://212xer2b32i62d5br9bdl3jf-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/b1_2547.gif If you use military gear, your pack will get heavy fast. Here is a list of gear carried by a woman who thru-hiked the entire Adirondack Trail. She carries 3-4 days worth of food and refills in towns along the way. Her packweight is 26lbs before food/water. Her total carried load is ~40 lbs. If you use modern, civilian outdoor gear you can get your packweight very low and still live comfortable. That means you have more weight to spare for your Hawaiian shirts, nightvision, krab, nut coal, or whatever else you need to tote that is boogaloo specific. Just wondering if there was an offical (but not really) Boog load out. Since this event is kind of sort of styled militaryish I figured they might have a min packing list. Loading mine up with a ponch liner, poncho, 550 cord and tons of pogey bait. Shit, I still have my issued Y harness with buttpack The marches are for fitness and camaraderie so weight is weight. People loaded packs with barbells, hammers, water jugs, sandbags, anything heavy. The hikes are about getting into shape and meeting in person. Then you can plan things like overnight excursions/gear shakedown camps locally. I was skeptical at first but I am fully on board with the program now, and encourage anyone on the fence to meet up with or start a local group. |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 12:35:53 AM EDT
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I would humbly recommend having some of the peripheral elements take a few modules on ICS. They used to be free through FEMA. |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 1:04:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I can manage to find time around my normal day job, I'm supposed to be starting this for work. Emergency management is a "oh, you also have to do this" afterthought for us. Once I was voluntold for the program and saw what it's like, I'm fucking astounded that this isn't a full-time job for most of the responders. Or at the least a dedicated rotation where you do nothing else while training. |
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