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I saw foliage, and some ranger green over woodland around Austin - not sure of what area they came out of though.
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My local PD's SWAT team is multicam from head to toe.
As an ex-LEO, I never understood why they needed multicam. I can understand boots and a BDU cut jacket and pants, but multicam? Khaki or OD would have worked just as well. We didn't have a SWAT team, but our tactically trained guys would don a plate carrier over their uniform. |
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yep. All my camo is stowed, and the only camo not issued was the stuff I bought when I was a teenager before I signed up. All my boots are issue. going back to highschool ROTC. I basically shoot in civie clothes. /shorts and T shirt because ive done plenty of the bulky shit before View Quote Mad respect for service, but IDGAF about your clothes or anyone elses. |
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My local PD's SWAT team is multicam from head to toe. As an ex-LEO, I never understood why they needed multicam. I can understand boots and a BDU cut jacket and pants, but multicam? Khaki or OD would have worked just as well. We didn't have a SWAT team, but our tactically trained guys would don a plate carrier over their uniform. View Quote If you had to guess about what the most commonly available pattern for gear/clothing is, what would you guess it to be? |
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Full camo on SWAT teams is gay.
I don't care what your argument to defend the practice is. It's gay. |
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SWAT guy I knew showed up in shorts in a situation and was on TV like that.
Had a badass gunbox in the back of a Tahoe. |
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I understand that wanting solid colors and POLICE in big letters is something like wanting this back: http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/wp-content/uploads/satevepost/the_runaway_by_norman_rockwell-400x513.jpg I get that times have changed. But i'm old fashioned at 35 I guess. View Quote Some dudes like other dudes. I'm not judging. I just don't care. I'm old fashioned too. pic: circa 1930, Chicago, Illinois police armed with tommy guns and using a heavily armoured car with bullet proof glass. |
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My local PD's SWAT team is multicam from head to toe. As an ex-LEO, I never understood why they needed multicam. I can understand boots and a BDU cut jacket and pants, but multicam? Khaki or OD would have worked just as well. We didn't have a SWAT team, but our tactically trained guys would don a plate carrier over their uniform. View Quote https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/NIGHT-VISION-HELMET-RIGS-let-s-see-your-pics-/18-226892/?page=69 |
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Most swat teams are part time. Most full time teams are in major cities. Most of the major metro teams, especially on the east coast, are not wearing multicam. They are wearing "traditional colors" like black, navy blue, or green. As to what swat officers wear on the daily that varies from dept to dept. again, your full time guys are typically only doing swat duties so their daily wear is their working uniform. I have seen some smaller depts with part time teams who allow their members to wear their working uniform if they had or have a preplanned operation scheduled for that day. Remember too, swat doesn't really mean anything on the surface. Swat runs the gamut from incredibly well funded, well trained, well managed teams to a couple of yokels who went through an NTOA school (once) with iron on decals on their t shirt and a Galls account. Even at the federal level there is a massive gulf in level of training and capabilities between FBI HRT and FBI SWAT. View Quote |
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All of these civilians needing multicam. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/NIGHT-VISION-HELMET-RIGS-let-s-see-your-pics-/18-226892/?page=69 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My local PD's SWAT team is multicam from head to toe. As an ex-LEO, I never understood why they needed multicam. I can understand boots and a BDU cut jacket and pants, but multicam? Khaki or OD would have worked just as well. We didn't have a SWAT team, but our tactically trained guys would don a plate carrier over their uniform. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/NIGHT-VISION-HELMET-RIGS-let-s-see-your-pics-/18-226892/?page=69 |
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I blame Call of Duty View Quote Honestly I don't know. Its probably due to the availability and contracts that are offered and the desire for them to be uniform in appearance and for identification purposes during the op. But the real question is why don't those operators have their shemaghs on!! |
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I always wonder why so many SWAT teams choose Multicam. It looks like clown shoes in a urban setting. Should stick with black or grey colors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Blah... I wore that boring crap decades ago when we still rocked mp5’s, Fritz helmets and our phones didn’t have cameras. CDI factor = 0 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32167/D69437AC-B95B-4E86-AE38-AC2BDF9FC0E8-504335.jpg View Quote |
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If the same SWAT guys people are bitching about were posting pictures of their gear in the Armory subforum, some of you guys would be all over their multicam clad jocks
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Why does 87% of arf dress up like SF? But mah clothes bro! Amazing. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V1om9rx46mE/maxresdefault.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Make fun of me all you want. I really like cops to look more like cops, and less like soldiers. I would rather have solid colors with lots of high vis "POLICE" on display than police looking like soldiers, complete with lo vis patches. Flame suit on. its a small detail, I know. I was talking with a friend about it once and she had an interesting take "well remember that prisoner, prison guard experiment? put cops in soldier uniforms and guess what they act like?" Why does 87% of arf dress up like SF? But mah clothes bro! Amazing. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V1om9rx46mE/maxresdefault.jpg So I have feeling most are just computer surfers who don't go outside and play with others. |
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Blah... I wore that boring crap decades ago when we still rocked mp5’s, Fritz helmets and our phones didn’t have cameras. CDI factor = 0 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32167/D69437AC-B95B-4E86-AE38-AC2BDF9FC0E8-504335.jpg View Quote The Shemaghs are straight up retarded though. Thats absurd, for about 50 different reasons and 100 percent "trying too hard" I really don't care if you rocked that shit in the ME as a TEIR 1 Delta operator. This is the US, ass. Not interested in looking like Kandahar here bro, thanks though |
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Not SWAT, but the USCG VBSS teams are in Multicam. They used to wear the blue uniforms like everyone else until people started going down for heat casualties. They switched to multicam when they found that the crye uniforms and the MC color palate was much cooler and resulted in fewer heat casualties.
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From yesterday's Youtube shooting. SWAT operator in black. https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180403180429-11-youtube-incident-0403-exlarge-169.jpg View Quote I'm sweating just looking at that guy. |
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Why does 87% of arf dress up like SF? But mah clothes bro! Amazing. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V1om9rx46mE/maxresdefault.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Make fun of me all you want. I really like cops to look more like cops, and less like soldiers. I would rather have solid colors with lots of high vis "POLICE" on display than police looking like soldiers, complete with lo vis patches. Flame suit on. its a small detail, I know. I was talking with a friend about it once and she had an interesting take "well remember that prisoner, prison guard experiment? put cops in soldier uniforms and guess what they act like?" Why does 87% of arf dress up like SF? But mah clothes bro! Amazing. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V1om9rx46mE/maxresdefault.jpg |
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It really makes me wonder if these folks who are bitching about multicam actual attend any training classes at all with regular civilians because it is all over the place. So I have feeling most are just computer surfers who don't go outside and play with others. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Make fun of me all you want. I really like cops to look more like cops, and less like soldiers. I would rather have solid colors with lots of high vis "POLICE" on display than police looking like soldiers, complete with lo vis patches. Flame suit on. its a small detail, I know. I was talking with a friend about it once and she had an interesting take "well remember that prisoner, prison guard experiment? put cops in soldier uniforms and guess what they act like?" Why does 87% of arf dress up like SF? But mah clothes bro! Amazing. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V1om9rx46mE/maxresdefault.jpg So I have feeling most are just computer surfers who don't go outside and play with others. OD/RG looks much better IMO |
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Isn't that a Tactical Response class? The epitome of LARPing in place of solid training? (and I know one of his former assistant instructors whose still good friends with him, he and I disagree strongly on the value of TR's training) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Make fun of me all you want. I really like cops to look more like cops, and less like soldiers. I would rather have solid colors with lots of high vis "POLICE" on display than police looking like soldiers, complete with lo vis patches. Flame suit on. its a small detail, I know. I was talking with a friend about it once and she had an interesting take "well remember that prisoner, prison guard experiment? put cops in soldier uniforms and guess what they act like?" Why does 87% of arf dress up like SF? But mah clothes bro! Amazing. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V1om9rx46mE/maxresdefault.jpg Tactical Response - High Risk Civilian Contractor - CQB (Raids and Rescues) 2012 |
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Make fun of me all you want. I really like cops to look more like cops, and less like soldiers. I would rather have solid colors with lots of high vis "POLICE" on display than police looking like soldiers, complete with lo vis patches. Flame suit on. its a small detail, I know. I was talking with a friend about it once and she had an interesting take "well remember that prisoner, prison guard experiment? put cops in soldier uniforms and guess what they act like?" View Quote Why do they need camo at all? Don't they need to be seen? For instance, not catching lead accidentally when going for the wrong guy's dog? I mean I thought you'd want everyone to know you were police... police are not supposed to be freaking MARSOC. For the life of me, I can't fathom why they need camo, tanks, grenades, MRAP, or any other .mil equipment. |
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The Shemaghs are straight up retarded though. Thats absurd, for about 50 different reasons and 100 percent "trying too hard" I really don't care if you rocked that shit in the ME as a TEIR 1 Delta operator. This is the US, ass. Not interested in looking like Kandahar here bro, thanks though View Quote Although I would tease him MERCILESSLY if I ever saw that stupid scarf make an appearance at work |
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Isn't that a Tactical Response class? The epitome of LARPing in place of solid training? (and I know one of his former assistant instructors whose still good friends with him, he and I disagree strongly on the value of TR's training) View Quote My point is to simply show a bunch of civilians in .mil clothing doing military-ish things. Every one of these classes is filled to brim with dudes dressed like that. Lots of dudes in this thread are basically only mad because POLICE. |
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This x1000 Why do they need camo at all? Don't they need to be seen? For instance, not catching lead accidentally when going for the wrong guy's dog? I mean I thought you'd want everyone to know you were police... police are not supposed to be freaking MARSOC. For the life of me, I can't fathom why they need camo, tanks, grenades, MRAP, or any other .mil equipment. View Quote 90% of the dudes on this site have a closet full of .mil shit. I do and I bet you do too. Fuck man, the AR15 was designed for mil. The only difference is, these cats are in real gunfights. EDIT: I like how you classify camo in the same group as tanks and grenades. Lemme get some of that badass camo bro. |
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Quoted: This guy is ready. He's just missing the head-to-toe multicam. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c5/f7/53/c5f7537366a717dbb412ef3be1e6dd60.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: This x1000 Why do they need camo at all? Don't they need to be seen? For instance, not catching lead accidentally when going for the wrong guy's dog? I mean I thought you'd want everyone to know you were police... police are not supposed to be freaking MARSOC. For the life of me, I can't fathom why they need camo, tanks, grenades, MRAP, or any other .mil equipment. View Quote Sam Browne belts(Like the one in the Norman Rockwell painting above...) were a military issued item, as well as double action .38 and .32 revolvers. Literally everything the cops use is, in some form or another, a direct military hand me down or an evolutionary offshoot of a military hand me down. Golly gee, why would a tactical team who is buying BDUs buy the most commonly used color pattern for BDUs and tactical gear in the country?! I can't think of a logical reason. They should order a special run of navy blue BDUs. At 400% of the cost with no replacement support cause fucking nobody makes that. Fuck it, get it made out of wool while we're at it. With big gold buttons. PS SWAT teams don't have grenades, and they need armored cars because one of their most common calls is armed barricaded people who are shooting at them and I can't speak for every SWAT guy but most don't like getting shot. Please return to your regularly scheduled day of buying "paramilitary" items on gunbroker while bitching about other peoples cargo pockets. |
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Quoted: There is a cop at the LHT class today wearing plaid in the shoot house. https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29683888_1846443078720659_1593938543040258512_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=51df96811035dd3cd799af6c7639f2ef&oe=5B308916 View Quote |
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RE: MRAPs
I know the common belief is the police department gets ALL OF THE TAX DOLLARS in a big duffel bag then flings them all over the place like they're at a strip club until it's gone then they GO GET MOAR, but they actually do have things called budgets and accounting. Should they a) Spend $30k on a bread truck then spend another $70k up-armoring it to obtain an armored car, or indefinitely lease a surplus pre-built armored car from the feds for pennies. Which is the more responsible use of local tax money? You tell me. |
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Damn, y'all are overlooking the best damn urban camo that was ever invented.
Urban Tokyo Camouflage |
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You are aware that virtually every police uniform going back to the navy blue wool uniforms of yore originated as surplus MILITARY uniforms back when our military dressed like dumbasses to go kill people, right? Sam Browne belts(Like the one in the Norman Rockwell painting above...) were a military issued item, as well as double action .38 and .32 revolvers. Literally everything the cops use is, in some form or another, a direct military hand me down or an evolutionary offshoot of a military hand me down. Golly gee, why would a tactical team who is buying BDUs buy the most commonly used color pattern for BDUs and tactical gear in the country?! I can't think of a logical reason. They should order a special run of navy blue BDUs. At 400% of the cost with no replacement support cause fucking nobody makes that. Fuck it, get it made out of wool while we're at it. With big gold buttons. PS SWAT teams don't have grenades, and they need armored cars because one of their most common calls is armed barricaded people who are shooting at them and I can't speak for every SWAT guy but most don't like getting shot. Please return to your regularly scheduled day of buying "paramilitary" items on gunbroker while bitching about other peoples cargo pockets. View Quote |
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Right? How pathetic must we really be when we are mad over the goddamn color of our clothes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I understand that wanting solid colors and POLICE in big letters is something like wanting this back: http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/wp-content/uploads/satevepost/the_runaway_by_norman_rockwell-400x513.jpg I get that times have changed. But i'm old fashioned at 35 I guess. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Mad respect for service, but IDGAF about your clothes or anyone elses. http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/wp-content/uploads/satevepost/the_runaway_by_norman_rockwell-400x513.jpg I get that times have changed. But i'm old fashioned at 35 I guess. |
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