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Link Posted: 9/28/2021 10:18:19 PM EST
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Spanish thorn or holly bushes.  

the holly bushes grow really fast dense and have thorns.
Link Posted: 9/28/2021 10:24:23 PM EST
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Check with these guys down on 10th street, OKC. They grow Oklahoma hardy yuccas, cactus, trifolate orange, palms, etc.
Link to their mail order catalog.

Other more common plants like roses, blackberries you should be able to get through a nursery or Home Depot/Lowes.

Besides Honey Locusts, Osage Oranges are also native thorny trees that were used to fence cattle before barb wire was invented.

State extension office list of trees
State extension office list of shrubs
Link Posted: 9/28/2021 10:27:26 PM EST
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DO NOT EVER PLANT THIS STUFF
This shit will take over and out grow everything .
It is horribly invasive
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Russian olive is one that hasn't been mentioned

DO NOT EVER PLANT THIS STUFF
This shit will take over and out grow everything .
It is horribly invasive


Yeah but ive seen animals dead in russian olive brambles stuck to the tree
Link Posted: 9/28/2021 10:28:46 PM EST
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Check with these guys down on 10th street, OKC. They grow Oklahoma hardy yuccas, cactus, trifolate orange, palms, etc.
Link to their mail order catalog.

Other more common plants like roses, blackberries you should be able to get through a nursery or Home Depot/Lowes.
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10th St?  Bonus, you can swing by the Red Dog and grab a beer.
Link Posted: 9/28/2021 10:30:37 PM EST
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Check with these guys down on 10th street, OKC. They grow Oklahoma hardy yuccas, cactus, trifolate orange, palms, etc.
Link to their mail order catalog.

Other more common plants like roses, blackberries you should be able to get through a nursery or Home Depot/Lowes.
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Totally forgot about them!  They're 10min away, I'll swing through tomorrow.

Regardless of plant choice...I think I'll experiment with one of these.  For research.
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Link Posted: 9/28/2021 10:31:58 PM EST
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10th St?  Bonus, you can swing by the Red Dog and grab a beer.
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Check with these guys down on 10th street, OKC. They grow Oklahoma hardy yuccas, cactus, trifolate orange, palms, etc.
Link to their mail order catalog.

Other more common plants like roses, blackberries you should be able to get through a nursery or Home Depot/Lowes.


10th St?  Bonus, you can swing by the Red Dog and grab a beer.
If you havent seen the Red Dog doc, it's really entertaining.   It's streaming, don't recall which provider.
Link Posted: 9/28/2021 10:32:10 PM EST
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Good fences make good neighbors.
Link Posted: 9/28/2021 10:45:53 PM EST
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4 feet of steel fence x 2?
Link Posted: 9/28/2021 10:50:08 PM EST
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Barberry.  Period.  Full stop.
Link Posted: 9/28/2021 11:01:21 PM EST
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I had family that lived within walking distance as a kid.  So I have both pre and post pubescent memories of the Red Dog.
Link Posted: 9/28/2021 11:03:39 PM EST
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Expanded Metal Fencing is what you seek. It’s cut proof chain link
Link Posted: 9/28/2021 11:18:43 PM EST
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Cholla is like scorched earth.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 3:20:46 AM EST
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Second on the barberry,  very hardy, relatively cheap,  plant in a hedge .
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That's what I use.

Grows like crazy, very hearty and its thorns break off in you easily and don't want to come out.

Link Posted: 9/29/2021 3:26:46 AM EST
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Blackberry, get ones with thorns and just watch them take over
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 3:30:39 AM EST
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I have a shop in downtown OKC that has recently begun to get a lot of homeless traffic.  Probably because the fucking retards in the city council placed a new homeless shelter in a commercial/industrial area.

Anywhoooo....the vagrants have made a habit of cutting through my property and I need to put a stop to it.  They make a mess and have attempted to contaminate the fuel in my truck.  This is about a 4' wide corridor, 6' fence on one side and steel building on the other, that I'd like to fortify.  Concertina wire is tempting but expensive, barbed wire is cheaper but not all that scary and chainlink just gets cut.  FM 5-15 has some great ideas though.

That got me thinking bushes.  I need something fast growing, resilient and a real bitch to walk through.  Bamboo was my first thought, but what else is out there?  Unconstrained growth isnt an issue, most everything else is concrete.
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defensive shrubbery
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 3:59:05 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/29/2021 4:15:05 AM EST
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Blue spruce?

Gotta be dedicated to walk through a blue spruce fence.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 4:23:37 AM EST
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Around here we use cactus.
Even better if you can get Cholla to grow.
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That's evil. Not as evil as making a homeless person molesting robot powered by solar panels, but it ranks right up there.


Link Posted: 9/29/2021 4:44:07 AM EST
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Multi floral rose
Nasty stuff, will cut a person to shreds once it matures, spreads a lot.
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Ran into that shit during a hunting trip in Ohio. It is legit nasty.

Another suggestion, OP....you live in OK.....Osage Orange is native. Before barbed wire was invented, folks used to sell the seeds and seedlings across the country for building tough, thorny hedgerows. I recall reading they advertised it as: "Horse high, hog proof and bull strong inside of three years". Actually saw a an old Osage hedgerow that also had multiflora growing with it on that trip to Ohio.  I don't think a snake could have gotten through without blood loss.

On the Osage, I was interested in planting some here. Your state's extension service actually sells seedlings one a first come, first served basis. A faster solution would be contacting local farmers and just transplanting small established saplings.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 4:46:25 AM EST
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Blackberries.  Double win
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Another good one. I maintain two large patches on the Back 40 of my place. It is pretty knarly.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 4:57:18 AM EST
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Multi floral rose
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Trust me, nobody will go there if this is planted.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 4:58:21 AM EST
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Used to plant a lot of barberry, berberis thunbergii, around windows of high end houses. It will turn into a thorny tangle, and will grow as large as you want it. And they're decorative, plus their natural color covers blood stains.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 5:36:27 AM EST
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Plant Goji berry trees and roses. Work great!
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 6:58:03 AM EST
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You're welcome.

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Link Posted: 9/29/2021 7:09:57 AM EST
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Anything that you plant can be cut down or pushed down.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 7:19:04 AM EST
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Now that is tempting

Ordered.  Not sure I'll use it, but for the price it can't hurt to have around.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 7:20:24 AM EST
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Boganvilla
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 7:45:13 AM EST
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Holly bushes are often used here, especially if you want it to still look sort of nice.  I hate even pruning them because the points on the leaves are painful.  Even a wino will sober up when they get a few pricks from them, and the woody part is resilient and strong.  Plus, it's green year round, and here in SC at least holly is a native plant so it is well adapted and needs very little care once established.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 7:47:26 AM EST
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Poison Ivy.
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I was going to say thick hedges with poison ivy vines.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 7:48:28 AM EST
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Pyracantha

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This, unquestionably.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 7:50:29 AM EST
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This right here [/Thread]

It grows fast, is brutally pokey, but good luck ever getting rid of it.

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*laughs in himalayan blackberry*


This right here [/Thread]

It grows fast, is brutally pokey, but good luck ever getting rid of it.

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If this is the thick, wild blackberry bushes that I had to clear off of my property a few years ago, then this is an excellent answer. 3/4 in thick stalks with 3/4 inch thorns.  Nasty stuff.  I had to bush hog it to get it under control.  It still grows out if I let the field grow.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 7:55:45 AM EST
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While true, hobo's aren't generally known for their tenacious work ethic.  I just need to encourage them to take another route.  Preferably this encouragement will be painful, so they remember it.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 7:56:55 AM EST
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Totally forgot about them!  They're 10min away, I'll swing through tomorrow.

Regardless of plant choice...I think I'll experiment with one of these.  For research.
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Check with these guys down on 10th street, OKC. They grow Oklahoma hardy yuccas, cactus, trifolate orange, palms, etc.
Link to their mail order catalog.

Other more common plants like roses, blackberries you should be able to get through a nursery or Home Depot/Lowes.
Totally forgot about them!  They're 10min away, I'll swing through tomorrow.

Regardless of plant choice...I think I'll experiment with one of these.  For research.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/145430/20210928_194646_jpg-2110272.JPG

If you've got a stick welder and some scrap metal, particularly angle iron, you could make your own artistic metal fence.  Leave it rusty so it doesn't feel good to climb on and adds tetanus as a bonus.

It might also give you a good excuse to add a cheap plasma cutter to your toolset, if you haven't already.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 8:13:51 AM EST
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what would the spacing need to be to make those work?
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Depends on how long you want to wait.  Six to ten feet apart will make an impenetrable wall in ten years.  With some work training them up, three foot spacing should get you good results in four years (from seed, two years from normal nursery transplant age).  Not sure if you care either way, but the fruit that they produce is considered inedible - it has thick peel, it's full of seeds, and the minimal amount of juice is way too sour to drink.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 8:32:21 AM EST
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If you've got a stick welder and some scrap metal, particularly angle iron, you could make your own artistic metal fence.  Leave it rusty so it doesn't feel good to climb on and adds tetanus as a bonus.

It might also give you a good excuse to add a cheap plasma cutter to your toolset, if you haven't already.
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Link Posted: 9/29/2021 8:33:28 AM EST
[#36]
If they cut chain link fence why would they not cut bushes?
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 8:42:29 AM EST
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If they cut chain link fence why would they not cut bushes?
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It happens, but chain link doesn't stab you quite as much when you grab it.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 8:50:17 AM EST
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Rose bushes. You can probably go into the woods and pick shoots and get the root. If they get cut down they grow right back. Even if it’s somewhere not many people see it, I would still think you would want it to look halfway decent, so roses would look better than some other options.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 8:58:05 AM EST
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cholla is the answer


Link Posted: 9/29/2021 9:03:09 AM EST
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Blackberries and wild rose.  The blackberries grow fast.  The wild rose grows slower, but nobody is walking through it.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 9:04:15 AM EST
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I've used a mixture of those thorny locust trees, blackberry bushes and poison ivy/oak to dissuade people from the wooded area that runs down my property. Stuff was all there before but I've selectively cultivated it. Only the really young or dumb degenerates try to get through anymore. Last couple were young boys and I kind of felt bad for them. I warned them but they decided to try and fight through. I happened to be enjoying a cigar on the porch and watched as it took almost 20 minutes for the poor kids to get through 20yrds of the shit.  They were bloody when finally got out. One was carrying one of those little metal scooters and it kept getting all tangled up. I'm guessing they were really in hell once the poison ivy took effect.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 9:07:55 AM EST
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Any native plant of South Texas.

Everything down there hates you
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 9:11:53 AM EST
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I plant Goji berries under my dining room windows. I’ve seen some stalks grow over 10 feet tall, and even the smallest branches have inch long thorns that can pierce leather gloves. I hate tending these plants, there’s no way to do it without getting stabbed.

Under my living room windows, I grow black and red currant bushes. They smell like cat piss, so strong that in the spring I can’t open the windows.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 9:11:56 AM EST
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Fucking holly.
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This. Got some the landscaper planted around windows. It needs trimming. I HATE trimming that shit!

But nobody peeks in our windows!
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 9:14:36 AM EST
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wild raspberries are pretty nice too,
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 9:18:24 AM EST
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Chainlink fence is 2 dimensional, a hand full of cuts and you're done.  Bushes are 3 dimensional, you have to cut all the way through.  
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 9:35:31 AM EST
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Cholla comes in several varieties, all varying degrees of evil. "Jumping cholla" are especially nasty.




The desert is full of plants that sit and wait to fuck up your day.

Mesquite is also fast growing and covered in thorns.




Cat's claw (Wait a minute bush) is covered in little thorns.



Link Posted: 9/29/2021 9:55:15 AM EST
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You can order concertina from Wal Mart.

Two rolls is only 100 bucks.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 10:39:34 AM EST
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Pyracantha (AKA firethorn) is nasty. The thorns go right through leather gloves.
Link Posted: 9/29/2021 11:08:21 AM EST
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Blackberry bushes. Plus you get blackberries.
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