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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:03:26 PM EST
[#1]
Based on the pole, not many Arfcommers do math.
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:03:29 PM EST
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The rod on the left is an abomination . Fuck the metric system https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/223987/83C43313-1413-4CED-A7D3-22DF1C4C25A6_jpeg-783107.JPG Working in both is not hard. Get both and pick the one that works for you at the time. 
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:04:47 PM EST
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That would be a Newton. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:08:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not at all. As with the crazy pound-mass, the kgf is defined based on a standard acceleration. Basically, 1kgf is the force exerted by one kilogram at a standard g, so 1kgf = ~9.81N. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:13:37 PM EST
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If you are referring to me, I am not here to tell anyone what to use. But I what I can do is try to answer any questions that anyone has about this system. Sadly, it looks like some people already came by and tried to ram this system down everyone's throats. The most common refrain is "because I can't figure this out". And that's probably the worst reason to switch anything. Because dumb people are still going to be dumb people. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:20:36 PM EST
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Buying thousands of dollars worth of sockets to remove SAE fasteners is one. Then the space, storage solutions, and weight (if traveling) needed for them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does not being metric inconvenience your life? I'll allow it. 
If you reimburse me for the road salt damage to my car, and some sort of gas mileage compensation for toting around the twenty bazillion pounds of fucking granite sand that got trotted into the cab of my truck on my last trip up to the Granite State last winter. 
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:21:45 PM EST
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How does not being metric inconvenience your life? Look, if you don't have the mental horsepower to sort through shit like this, then maybe you shouldn't be out in the road trying to direct traffic. Maybe you should just let people use the units they want to use. Not seeing anything to gain by dictate. ETA: Not referring to OP, specifically. It's either "your" or "y'alls". And, I'm about all y'alled out. In the machine shop—even the old masters had trouble with 7/64” vs 9/32”. It’s easier with decimals & metric, IME. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:23:26 PM EST
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SAE or Metric? Math makes a whole lot more sense in Metric... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Invented for uneducated peasants. Math makes a whole lot more sense in Metric... Base2 versus Base10. Which do computers use? |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:24:33 PM EST
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I prefer IU but wouldn't mind ditching one for the other on things that don't require extreme precision.
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:29:14 PM EST
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I think everyone in the USofA should be forced to learn French, because it's all cool and continental, and Lincolney and stuff
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:33:55 PM EST
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Only three pie-lovers so far.
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:35:22 PM EST
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This is probably the most valid gripe I've heard, to date. I'll allow it.
If you reimburse me for the road salt damage to my car, and some sort of gas mileage compensation for toting around the twenty bazillion pounds of fucking granite sand that got trotted into the cab of my truck on my last trip up to the Granite State last winter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does not being metric inconvenience your life? I'll allow it.
If you reimburse me for the road salt damage to my car, and some sort of gas mileage compensation for toting around the twenty bazillion pounds of fucking granite sand that got trotted into the cab of my truck on my last trip up to the Granite State last winter. Socket sets are available in metric and imperial. You can spend as much as you like, of course but a set for the average joe isn't going to break the bank. https://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/socket-sets/halfords-advanced-200-piece-socket-and-ratchet-spanner-set?istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=-xwwarwrtlx&istBid=t&_$ja=tsid:94971%7Ccid:865695754%7Cagid:42483196223%7Ctid:aud-297219197929:pla-330157714504%7Ccrid:203186066562%7Cnw:g%7Crnd:4104086753850410438%7Cdvc:c%7Cadp:1o1%7Cmt:%7Cloc:9046652&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5Mvs66i33wIVjeR3Ch2hpgFpEAQYASABEgKod_D_BwE If you wan to go down the route of professional Snap-On or similar, and you want pneumatic the you will pay more, obviously. Bit of you are spending that kind of money on a full set of imperial tools then a metric set of sockets isn;t really that big a leap. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:46:33 PM EST
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:47:16 PM EST
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:50:42 PM EST
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What is that on the left? 
It looks like it could be decimeters, but that would be one really fucked up way of showing them. Right is a standard level rod. We survey in decimal feet . Now they’ve got digital levels and you don’t even have to read the rod, you use this rod .....and it reads the bar code and shows you the correct numbers on the screen  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:51:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryHow do you explain your Military's use of 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 9mm, 40mm etc, then? |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:54:25 PM EST
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I spent most of my life working with both systems.
Mostly metric at work (electronics). 50/50 at home. I cook mostly in grams and only use teaspoon/tablespoon measurements for convenience but I'd have no problem switching. I'm an old 'boomer' but I wouldn't mind one bit switching to the metric system. By the last check, 40% of the USA is already using the metric system, and some sectors are totally converted (when is the last time a doctor prescribed you 1/4 teaspoon of aspirin..). |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:55:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really? How do you explain your Military's use of 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 9mm, 40mm etc, then? |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 8:58:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That my good man is a metric surveying level rod. (Left) Right is a standard level rod. We survey in decimal feet . Now they’ve got digital levels and you don’t even have to read the rod, you use this rod .....and it reads the bar code and shows you the correct numbers on the screen https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/223987/E01F3E45-01A3-4D1F-ABAB-A9484977BC5C_jpeg-783157.JPG 
That's centimeters and each number with a zero after it is an even decimeter. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:00:27 PM EST
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Two threads on the metric system right now in GD.
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:01:04 PM EST
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Two threads on the metric system right now in GD. https://media.giphy.com/media/1JyWrrkCIUQyQ/giphy.gif |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:07:29 PM EST
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Anything critical enough to be in metric/SI already is. Quit trying to destroy my traditional units. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:09:49 PM EST
[#23]
What kind of pie?
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Posted: 12/23/2018 9:10:19 PM EST
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What kind of pie? |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 10:02:10 PM EST
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What’s a “cubit?”
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Posted: 12/23/2018 10:07:24 PM EST
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Posted: 12/23/2018 10:11:07 PM EST
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Okay, I get it now. So...why is that used instead of Newtons? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Not at all. As with the crazy pound-mass, the kgf is defined based on a standard acceleration. Basically, 1kgf is the force exerted by one kilogram at a standard g, so 1kgf = ~9.81N. Implemented by retards, not used by anyone. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 10:40:28 PM EST
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A switch to metric will have a whole lot of people getting speeding tickets written.
They'll conveniently forget 50 KPH is not 50 MPH. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 10:42:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's ignored, except in legislatures. Implemented by retards, not used by anyone. |
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Posted: 12/23/2018 11:21:00 PM EST
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:48:23 AM EST
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Having lived and worked with both, I prefer metric for most things. The measurements are relatable, easy to visualize, and no damn fractions..unless you're me. I like using metric fractions just to fuck with people. I am 1 and 39/50ths of a meter tall, for example. 
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:54:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really? How do you explain your Military's use of 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 9mm, 40mm etc, then? The last time either of our countries unconditionally won a war, it was fought with .303, .45, 3 inch guns, 17 pound guns, etc. And we wrought utter ruin on the metric Nazis. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 12:58:20 AM EST
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I fucking hate it. I simply cannot quickly equate metric distances and weights in my mind to imperial units. The Celsius scale also jumps far too much. Fahrenheit is much more precise.
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:00:56 AM EST
[#34]
From my cold dead hands!
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:08:09 AM EST
[#35]
I don’t care either way. I can go with both
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:11:25 AM EST
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From my cold dead hands!https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Mh9SZ5inL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:12:05 AM EST
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I fucking hate it. I simply cannot quickly equate metric distances and weights in my mind to imperial units. The Celsius scale also jumps far too much. Fahrenheit is much more precise. It's really not so bad. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:18:04 AM EST
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It might blow balls for us older folks to think or convert to metric. It makes a lot more sense IMO though. It will not get any easier if we keep delaying the inevitable.
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:20:54 AM EST
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What does GD currently think of the metric system? Note that for the purposes of this poll, I am really referring to the SI system. Poll inbound. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:23:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was an arbitrary system designed by the French because they were butthurt at the English. It took a series of measurements that made sense and could be used by virtually everybody, and changed it to a base 10 system predicated on an arbitrary number they pulled out of their asses. Which they got wrong. So they had to change it. And they got it wrong again. Until today, the base of a meter is some 30 digit decimal of the speed of light, because nothing else fits. And they'll probably change it again, because French. Two nations tried to redefine the kilogram in terms of universal constants and failed. Who finally pulled it off? The United States. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 5:24:18 AM EST
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I don't see things like this^^^ Like I'm 1 M , 49 cm, and 5mm tall..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Having lived and worked with both, I prefer metric for most things. The measurements are relatable, easy to visualize, and no damn fractions..unless you're me. I like using metric fractions just to fuck with people. I am 1 and 39/50ths of a meter tall, for example. Manlet |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 6:06:57 AM EST
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It make zero difference if I fill my tank in gallons or liters, it's the same tank.
Try switching the building trades to metric, those millions of 16" studs won't work with 50x100 cm osb. You will have an epic mess. What really cracks me up is people who think we aren't already switched to metric now. All of the critical industries have switched already. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 6:46:25 AM EST
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Why do all that when you could have something that looks like this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/duckbbs/tools/tape-blades-lufkin.jpg That's centimeters and each number with a zero after it is an even decimeter.
And that metric survey rod I posted is just like your tape measure , just colored in differently each little block is a centimeter. Metric sucks for surveying cause most guys still think in feet. Oh I have to move 1.74 meters left........mmmm... ok 1 meter is a little over three feet , .74 meters is about 2.75 feet....ok I’ll move about 6 feet....repeat ad naseum until you’re in the right spot. Fuck all that |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 7:59:33 AM EST
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Are you talking about Newtons or the kgf units? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It's ignored, except in legislatures. Implemented by retards, not used by anyone. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 8:06:13 AM EST
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Posted: 12/24/2018 8:12:28 AM EST
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There is no reason a unit of ten should have a world monopoly.
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Posted: 12/24/2018 8:13:25 AM EST
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Get both.
We Americans fluidly switch back and forth, using the one that makes the most sense for the situation at hand. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 8:16:21 AM EST
[#48]
FUCK the communist metric system
I love the American system 
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Posted: 12/24/2018 8:50:00 AM EST
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As for the digital level, they don’t fuck up like humans do
And that metric survey rod I posted is just like your tape measure , just colored in differently each little block is a centimeter. Metric sucks for surveying cause most guys still think in feet. Oh I have to move 1.74 meters left........mmmm... ok 1 meter is a little over three feet , .74 meters is about 2.75 feet....ok I’ll move about 6 feet....repeat ad naseum until you’re in the right spot. Fuck all that Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do all that when you could have something that looks like this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/duckbbs/tools/tape-blades-lufkin.jpg That's centimeters and each number with a zero after it is an even decimeter.
And that metric survey rod I posted is just like your tape measure , just colored in differently each little block is a centimeter. Metric sucks for surveying cause most guys still think in feet. Oh I have to move 1.74 meters left........mmmm... ok 1 meter is a little over three feet , .74 meters is about 2.75 feet....ok I’ll move about 6 feet....repeat ad naseum until you’re in the right spot. Fuck all that You'd have no problem with a dual system. |
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Posted: 12/24/2018 9:00:39 AM EST
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I fucking hate it. I simply cannot quickly equate metric distances and weights in my mind to imperial units. The Celsius scale also jumps far too much. Fahrenheit is much more precise. 
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