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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:55:52 PM EDT
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Just wait until all the snowbirds come to our state for the general election…. Sigh…..
That’s why we can’t have nice things…. 
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poll watching is not "meh". It is very important. In a legit court, if there are any left in this country, a poll watcher has legal standing. And in a legit court, they find out the truth. That said......... I just got off my feet for the first time since 5 am this morning. Left the house at 5a, started at 6a, opened at 7a, closed at 7p, got home at 9p. Long day. Sworn election worker. I operate election machines. Ballot generators and tabulators. That is what I do. I know this shit. I sign legal documents as "election judge". My point is that I know this stuff from the inside out. And thank you for stepping up. Most people here don't clean their guns, don't go to parent/teacher conferences, don't change the oil in their lawn mowers, and they sure as hell don't volunteer to work elections. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: All you need to know is that there are many instances where poll watchers were not permitted to do their job. That is illegal. In criminal law that is called intent. In fact I just got off the phone with a journalist regarding the Maricopa marker smearing issue, I was able to walk her through the problems and articulate the issues (and be taken seriously) precisely because I've done this in different jurisdictions. Poll watching is not "meh". It is very important. In a legit court, if there are any left in this country, a poll watcher has legal standing. And in a legit court, they find out the truth. That said......... I just got off my feet for the first time since 5 am this morning. Left the house at 5a, started at 6a, opened at 7a, closed at 7p, got home at 9p. Long day. Sworn election worker. I operate election machines. Ballot generators and tabulators. That is what I do. I know this shit. I sign legal documents as "election judge". My point is that I know this stuff from the inside out. And thank you for stepping up. Most people here don't clean their guns, don't go to parent/teacher conferences, don't change the oil in their lawn mowers, and they sure as hell don't volunteer to work elections. @xciapup and everyone else out there on the ground getting into the system: THANK YOU. 
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:57:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait until all the snowbirds come to our state for the general election . Sigh .. That's why we can't have nice things . Unless they're residents they can't vote here. And if they're residents, they already voted in the primary? |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:58:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:58:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait until all the snowbirds come to our state for the general election . Sigh .. That's why we can't have nice things . I am more concerned about RINOs voting for Hobbs. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:58:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has the opponent conceded and the vote counting stopped? Here's to hoping it sticks! I think this one is in the books…  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:59:05 PM EDT
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Clear repudiation of Trump. The GOP has moved on. MSNBC told me.
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:00:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has the opponent conceded and the vote counting stopped? Here's to hoping it sticks! I think this one is in the books https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19372/9F7DA76F-CD22-46DB-929C-75380CC7920B_jpe-2477372.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19372/BFDEA24C-834A-456A-8998-BAA2C4FAEA34_png-2477373.JPG |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:01:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless they're residents they can't vote here. And if they're residents, they already voted in the primary? Many have dual residency, they have Arizona driver licenses and are registered to vote here. That’s how we got the astronaut, and why we couldn’t get rid of McCain. Wouldn’t doubt they also do absentee voting in their other state too. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:02:33 PM EDT
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She needs to wear the election denier badge with honor and make it a top priority to clean up the process. Everyone but cheaters want cleaner elections.
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:02:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has the opponent conceded and the vote counting stopped? Here's to hoping it sticks! I think this one is in the books… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19372/9F7DA76F-CD22-46DB-929C-75380CC7920B_jpe-2477372.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19372/BFDEA24C-834A-456A-8998-BAA2C4FAEA34_png-2477373.JPG So now we get to see if TPTB decided to pull another round like the did in 2020 or not. Or like how nikki fried stole her office in florida in order to screw over CCW license holders. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:04:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, the Trump Endorsement clearly carries SO much weight... ... in a state that Trump lost.  Bigger_Hammer  Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, the Trump Endorsement clearly carries SO much weight... ... in a state that Trump lost. Bigger_Hammer  |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:04:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So now we get to see if TPTB decided to pull another round like the did in 2020 or not. Or like how nikki fried stole her office in florida in order to screw over CCW license holders. Naw, I think they’ll let this one go and save their powder for the general election. Honestly, with the money Robson had to throw at this election, I think she might have faired better in the general against Hobbs. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:10:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Naw, I think they’ll let this one go and save their powder for the general election. Honestly, with the money Robson had to throw at this election, I think she might have faired better in the general against Hobbs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So now we get to see if TPTB decided to pull another round like the did in 2020 or not. Or like how nikki fried stole her office in florida in order to screw over CCW license holders. Naw, I think they’ll let this one go and save their powder for the general election. Honestly, with the money Robson had to throw at this election, I think she might have faired better in the general against Hobbs. I hope you are right, and I hope the other states look at this and they decide it's not worth it to try and subvert their elections, and repub voters get out and vote like it's the end of the world if they don't. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:22:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poll watching is not "meh". It is very important. In a legit court, if there are any left in this country, a poll watcher has legal standing. And in a legit court, they find out the truth. That said......... I just got off my feet for the first time since 5 am this morning. Left the house at 5a, started at 6a, opened at 7a, closed at 7p, got home at 9p. Long day. Sworn election worker. I operate election machines. Ballot generators and tabulators. That is what I do. I know this shit. I sign legal documents as "election judge". My point is that I know this stuff from the inside out. And thank you for stepping up. Most people here don't clean their guns, don't go to parent/teacher conferences, don't change the oil in their lawn mowers, and they sure as hell don't volunteer to work elections. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: All you need to know is that there are many instances where poll watchers were not permitted to do their job. That is illegal. In criminal law that is called intent. In fact I just got off the phone with a journalist regarding the Maricopa marker smearing issue, I was able to walk her through the problems and articulate the issues (and be taken seriously) precisely because I've done this in different jurisdictions. Poll watching is not "meh". It is very important. In a legit court, if there are any left in this country, a poll watcher has legal standing. And in a legit court, they find out the truth. That said......... I just got off my feet for the first time since 5 am this morning. Left the house at 5a, started at 6a, opened at 7a, closed at 7p, got home at 9p. Long day. Sworn election worker. I operate election machines. Ballot generators and tabulators. That is what I do. I know this shit. I sign legal documents as "election judge". My point is that I know this stuff from the inside out. And thank you for stepping up. Most people here don't clean their guns, don't go to parent/teacher conferences, don't change the oil in their lawn mowers, and they sure as hell don't volunteer to work elections. Thank you for stepping up as well. My point is IMO there's been overall too much talk on the right about being a watcher, and not enough on being a worker. A watcher would never have been able to see what I saw, precisely because they're mostly not allowed to get that close to the operation. I just did 12 days here at a vote center, we only had the tabulators on ED though. Tuesday I was up at 430 to be at the site at 530 for a 6am opening, we closed at 7pm and after breakdown and hand-carrying the results (Along with another worker of a different political affiliation) to the drop off location and returning, I was home around 10pm. Everyone I've ever worked a poll with has been amazing, and I can't really recommend it enough. It's long hours at times, but tremendously rewarding.  |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:24:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:25:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're talking about Arizona, there aren't 20 counties in AZ, there's 15 total. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Didn't the article say it happened in 20 counties? Also, all those people bailed from the election office jobs because of shenanigans. It was a poorly run operation before and after all of the shit broke loose. Whether that was intentional...well...people love to hide behind their 'incompetence'... Hobbs was tied up in all kinds of shady shit for 2020. If you're talking about Arizona, there aren't 20 counties in AZ, there's 15 total. K. Then that's obviously wrong. In a normal world. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:30:03 PM EDT
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Congrats Arizona! Let's hope she stomps the commiecrat in November!
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:32:12 PM EDT
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Good!
She 'Bigger Hammered' Robson!!! 
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:33:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, the Trump Endorsement clearly carries SO much weight... ... in a state that Trump lost. Bigger_Hammer |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:41:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe Trump really didn't lose Arizona? I'll take it one further. Maybe Trump didn't lose California. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:59:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hearing that Lake has won every county in Arizona.  /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/image-74.jpg
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:59:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll take it one further. Maybe Trump didn't lose California. I visited that hellscape before the 2020 election, I was shocked at the sheer number of trump signs. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:05:50 AM EDT
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Weird, all of a sudden the sulfurous smell in this thread dissipated.
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:08:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird, all of a sudden the sulfurous smell in this thread dissipated. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:10:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The RINO election denier is losing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's the issue? The RINO election denier is losing. and you where wrong 
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:11:24 AM EDT
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Local news channels covering other more important news now.
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:13:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was an election marshal for this one, here I basically do the same thing on election day as you it sounds like. Thank you for stepping up as well. My point is IMO there's been overall too much talk on the right about being a watcher, and not enough on being a worker. A watcher would never have been able to see what I saw, precisely because they're mostly not allowed to get that close to the operation. I just did 12 days here at a vote center, we only had the tabulators on ED though. Tuesday I was up at 430 to be at the site at 530 for a 6am opening, we closed at 7pm and after breakdown and hand-carrying the results (Along with another worker of a different political affiliation) to the drop off location and returning, I was home around 10pm. Everyone I've ever worked a poll with has been amazing, and I can't really recommend it enough. It's long hours at times, but tremendously rewarding. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214740/02785F79-69CF-475D-BB42-763ECF163400-2477384.jpg Thank you |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:20:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe Trump really didn't lose Arizona? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, the Trump Endorsement clearly carries SO much weight... ... in a state that Trump lost. Bigger_Hammer Of course he didn't. And he can win a third time in 2024. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:23:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:25:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weren't those the ballots they were waiting to count? I am more concerned about RINOs voting for Hobbs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just wait until all the snowbirds come to our state for the general election . Sigh .. That's why we can't have nice things . I am more concerned about RINOs voting for Hobbs. Without a doubt it will happen |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:44:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll take it one further. Maybe Trump didn't lose California. Certainly possible. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:49:34 AM EDT
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 Time to plant more signs |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 12:57:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird, all of a sudden the sulfurous smell in this thread dissipated. I find it interesting that several of them appeared within one minute of each other. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:01:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it interesting that several of them appeared within one minute of each other. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:02:31 AM EDT
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This is going to be “Won the battle but lost the War” come NOV. I will vote straight Republican straight down. Think what you want but we are in deep shit.
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:07:18 AM EDT
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Only saving grace is AZ State Senate will stay in Republican
Control…so there is some positive. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:13:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is going to be “Won the battle but lost the War” come NOV. I will vote straight Republican straight down. Think what you want but we are in deep shit. Oh grow a pair, get out there and convince some people and make sure they vote. Or don’t concern troll. Either way, stop hand wringing |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:24:54 AM EDT
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Good, the gamble candidate won. Hopefully she pays off.
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:26:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI hate those little "RINO" signs. They did, of course, belong next to Rusty's campaign signs, though. 
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:31:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And if you look at the total dem vs rep votes, Lake will trounce that Hobbs commie bitch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Every county in the state! And if you look at the total dem vs rep votes, Lake will trounce that Hobbs commie bitch. One thing you need to remember about Arizona is that those registered Independent (any party but R, D, or Lib) get to choose what party ballot they want to vote for the primary. So you may have an IND who leans left, but was convinced to get an R ballot just to pick the candidate that Dems want to run against. Come the General Election, that same IND may vote D. No idea how many votes that may be, but can certainly happen for several hundred if not thousands through out the state. Pretty much anymore AZ is about 1/3 R, 1/3 D, and 1/3 IND. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:33:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One thing you need to remember about Arizona is that those registered Independent (any party but R, D, or Lib) get to choose what party ballot they want to vote for the primary. So you may have an IND who leans left, but was convinced to get an R ballot just to pick the candidate that Dems want to run against. Come the General Election, that same IND may vote D. No idea how many votes that may be, but can certainly happen for several hundred if not thousands through out the state. Pretty much anymore AZ is about 1/3 R, 1/3 D, and 1/3 IND. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Every county in the state! And if you look at the total dem vs rep votes, Lake will trounce that Hobbs commie bitch. One thing you need to remember about Arizona is that those registered Independent (any party but R, D, or Lib) get to choose what party ballot they want to vote for the primary. So you may have an IND who leans left, but was convinced to get an R ballot just to pick the candidate that Dems want to run against. Come the General Election, that same IND may vote D. No idea how many votes that may be, but can certainly happen for several hundred if not thousands through out the state. Pretty much anymore AZ is about 1/3 R, 1/3 D, and 1/3 IND. Reminiscent of "Operation Chaos." |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:46:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate those little "RINO" signs. They did, of course, belong next to Rusty's campaign signs, though. Those were The Patriot Party's doing. Actually brilliant but not a GOP or a Kari Lake plan. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:49:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was an election marshal for this one, here I basically do the same thing on election day as you it sounds like. Thank you for stepping up as well. My point is IMO there's been overall too much talk on the right about being a watcher, and not enough on being a worker. A watcher would never have been able to see what I saw, precisely because they're mostly not allowed to get that close to the operation. I just did 12 days here at a vote center, we only had the tabulators on ED though. Tuesday I was up at 430 to be at the site at 530 for a 6am opening, we closed at 7pm and after breakdown and hand-carrying the results (Along with another worker of a different political affiliation) to the drop off location and returning, I was home around 10pm. Everyone I've ever worked a poll with has been amazing, and I can't really recommend it enough. It's long hours at times, but tremendously rewarding. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214740/02785F79-69CF-475D-BB42-763ECF163400-2477384.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: All you need to know is that there are many instances where poll watchers were not permitted to do their job. That is illegal. In criminal law that is called intent. In fact I just got off the phone with a journalist regarding the Maricopa marker smearing issue, I was able to walk her through the problems and articulate the issues (and be taken seriously) precisely because I've done this in different jurisdictions. Poll watching is not "meh". It is very important. In a legit court, if there are any left in this country, a poll watcher has legal standing. And in a legit court, they find out the truth. That said......... I just got off my feet for the first time since 5 am this morning. Left the house at 5a, started at 6a, opened at 7a, closed at 7p, got home at 9p. Long day. Sworn election worker. I operate election machines. Ballot generators and tabulators. That is what I do. I know this shit. I sign legal documents as "election judge". My point is that I know this stuff from the inside out. And thank you for stepping up. Most people here don't clean their guns, don't go to parent/teacher conferences, don't change the oil in their lawn mowers, and they sure as hell don't volunteer to work elections. Thank you for stepping up as well. My point is IMO there's been overall too much talk on the right about being a watcher, and not enough on being a worker. A watcher would never have been able to see what I saw, precisely because they're mostly not allowed to get that close to the operation. I just did 12 days here at a vote center, we only had the tabulators on ED though. Tuesday I was up at 430 to be at the site at 530 for a 6am opening, we closed at 7pm and after breakdown and hand-carrying the results (Along with another worker of a different political affiliation) to the drop off location and returning, I was home around 10pm. Everyone I've ever worked a poll with has been amazing, and I can't really recommend it enough. It's long hours at times, but tremendously rewarding. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214740/02785F79-69CF-475D-BB42-763ECF163400-2477384.jpg Glad to see others here are actually getting out to work the polls and see how it goes in person. Myself I was an Inspector which in Maricopa County means the one who was in charge of that voting location. Been doing that position now for the last 3 election cycles. Really learn a lot of the In's and Out's of how the In Person voting goes and the redundancies in place to ensure accurate counts. For example the Election Day Tabulator will print 2 copies of all the results it calculated on a long thermal paper receipt. Just think a really long grocery store receipt. One copy goes in a special bag along with the memory card that is removed from the tabulator. Second copy is placed in a duffle bag in to which all of the physical paper ballots are placed by poll workers. Bag is sealed as are the bags. Then sent with a transport team of opposite party workers to a county collection site. If an audit is done of that voting site, should not be too hard to figure out where the discrepancies are. In Maricopa County, these tabulators are only used on Election Day. If you go in person to an Early Voting location, not much different than doing a mail in except that you will log in electronically and have your ID verified by a poll worker. Your ballot will still end up in a sealed envelope to be opened later at the central hub where it will be tabulated. As far as any smearing on ballots, what I noticed is it was only a problem if the voter really went heavy when filling in the bubbles and left excess ink on the ballot that did not have time to properly dry. The solution that we did was to essentially "Spoil" that ballot and issue the voter a fresh one and make sure it was dry before going in to the tabulator. That seemed to resolve the few smearing challenges we had at my location. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:54:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reminiscent of "Operation Chaos." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Every county in the state! And if you look at the total dem vs rep votes, Lake will trounce that Hobbs commie bitch. One thing you need to remember about Arizona is that those registered Independent (any party but R, D, or Lib) get to choose what party ballot they want to vote for the primary. So you may have an IND who leans left, but was convinced to get an R ballot just to pick the candidate that Dems want to run against. Come the General Election, that same IND may vote D. No idea how many votes that may be, but can certainly happen for several hundred if not thousands through out the state. Pretty much anymore AZ is about 1/3 R, 1/3 D, and 1/3 IND. Reminiscent of "Operation Chaos." Just thought I would add a link to the latest Voter Registration numbers https://azsos.gov/about-office/media-center/press-releases/1382 |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:57:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is going to be "Won the battle but lost the War" come NOV. I will vote straight Republican straight down. Think what you want but we are in deep shit. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 1:58:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just thought I would add a link to the latest Voter Registration numbers https://azsos.gov/about-office/media-center/press-releases/1382 Good stuff, thanks. I just hope that they all see Hobbs as either a feckless leader or complicit in the election issues of 2020 and 2022 in AZ - basically a partizan hack. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 2:13:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it interesting that several of them appeared within one minute of each other. Almost like it was a job or something |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 2:41:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad to see others here are actually getting out to work the polls and see how it goes in person. Myself I was an Inspector which in Maricopa County means the one who was in charge of that voting location. Been doing that position now for the last 3 election cycles. Really learn a lot of the In's and Out's of how the In Person voting goes and the redundancies in place to ensure accurate counts. For example the Election Day Tabulator will print 2 copies of all the results it calculated on a long thermal paper receipt. Just think a really long grocery store receipt. One copy goes in a special bag along with the memory card that is removed from the tabulator. Second copy is placed in a duffle bag in to which all of the physical paper ballots are placed by poll workers. Bag is sealed as are the bags. Then sent with a transport team of opposite party workers to a county collection site. If an audit is done of that voting site, should not be too hard to figure out where the discrepancies are. In Maricopa County, these tabulators are only used on Election Day. If you go in person to an Early Voting location, not much different than doing a mail in except that you will log in electronically and have your ID verified by a poll worker. Your ballot will still end up in a sealed envelope to be opened later at the central hub where it will be tabulated. As far as any smearing on ballots, what I noticed is it was only a problem if the voter really went heavy when filling in the bubbles and left excess ink on the ballot that did not have time to properly dry. The solution that we did was to essentially "Spoil" that ballot and issue the voter a fresh one and make sure it was dry before going in to the tabulator. That seemed to resolve the few smearing challenges we had at my location. after close we managed all but one of the misreads we couldn't resolve during the day, I don't think it affected the vote totals but it definitely was a pain in the ass. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 3:00:30 AM EDT
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Already a new word in Wiki…
“Karizona”. |
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