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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:22:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This dude is saying Bakhmut isn’t an important strategic city either. I thiiiink this is the same one that commands a group of Russian musicians fighting in Bakhmut. Idk what instrument they play tho…but they say they’re at risk of being encircled. We publish a request from the editors of the Notebook publication and the answer: Dear Evgeny Viktorovich! The correspondent of the edition "Notepad" addresses you. Our editors would like to ask you the following question: In recent days, there have been many events related to the presence of PMC "Wagner" in Bakhmut, as well as the issuance of ammunition to the fighters. Can you give a summary of what is happening and briefly describe the current situation? Thanks in advance for your reply! We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin: 1. Bakhmut has no strategic importance; 2. Bakhmut was needed in order to, after the failures and retreat of the RF Armed Forces from Kharkov, Kherson and other regions, build up offensive potential, grind the enemy’s manpower and enable the Russian army to mobilize; 3. In view of the fear of internal competition, PMC "Wagner" began to "dry" in terms of personnel, weapons and ammunition, artificially reducing combat potential; 4. The effectiveness of the “Bakhmut meat grinder” decreased in April-May 2023, the Armed Forces of Ukraine gathered for a counteroffensive; 5. Due to the reduction in personnel, PMC "Wagner" was forced to transfer the flanks to the military; 6. There is a serious risk of encirclement of PMC "Wagner" in Bakhmut as a result of the failure of the flanks. The flanks are already cracking and falling through; 7. In the absence of ammunition, the "meat grinder" will work in the opposite direction: the Armed Forces of Ukraine will destroy PMC "Wagner"; 8. I demand ammunition in order to save the lives of the fighters and “put the squeeze on” Bakhmut, in which there are about 5% left occupied by the enemy; 9. At the moment, within the city of Bakhmut, there is only Wagner PMC, there are no other units. Outside Bakhmut - only the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, PMC "Wagner" is not there; 10. PMC "Wagner" planned to leave Bakhmut to save the lives of fighters and minimize senseless losses, since the remnants of ammunition were only enough until the end of the day on May 9, 2023; 11. The top leadership of the country was instructed by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to provide PMC "Wagner" with everything necessary; 12. On the night of May 6-7, 2023, a combat order was issued promising to give Wagner PMC ammunition; 13. During the day of May 8-9, 2023, the required amount of ammunition was not issued. Until now, ammunition has been filtered to a minimum; 14. PMC "Wagner" continues the offensive in Bakhmut and is awaiting a decision on the issuance of ammunition and weapons in the required quantity. https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3296 Weird. A day ago it was a "catastrophe" for Ukraine if it fell. The remaining 20%, I mean. Now it is strategically unimportant? Prigozhin is such a fuckin' cunt. 
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:29:12 PM EDT
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Avdiivka, you are seriously bringing the city that has been under threat for almost 8 years.
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:34:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Avdiivka, you are seriously bringing the city that has been under threat for almost 8 years. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:42:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry you got triggered, just reporting what was reported. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Avdiivka, you are seriously bringing the city that has been under threat for almost 8 years. Are you familiar with the number of Russian armored vehicles that were destroyed there in the last month? |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:44:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has Bahkmut fallen yet? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russias 72nd brigade got there ass handed to them in Bakhmut yesterday!! Ran like a bunch of bitches they are. Not looking good for OPs team. Lol... 3 square km took back in one day, it took Russia 9 months to get that piece hahahahaha. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-unit-says-russian-brigade-flees-bakhmut-outskirts-2023-05-10/ This looks like a leadership failure all around. What a shit show. And yet according to the Ukraine Bros the Russians are a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries unless we pay billions to the Zelensky. The con continues! So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? Nope Has Bahkmut fallen yet? Perhaps, you should reframe the question as: "why does Ukriane want to hold onto Bakmut, and why do they do they continue to send untrained teritoral defence units into that theater?" The "road of death" is analogist to the invasion of Iraq, there is no military benefit, it is only political. America first strategy in Ukraine is failing, I assume even you can agree that this is the case. Its a hard pill to swollow, but thousnds of Ukranian men and professional soliders will survive if there is a negotialed settlement and they can reorganize and maybe even enter NATO to deter the Russians for future conflicts. The casultly data from Bahkmut is simply disgusting, from both sides. America first policy is failing. Not only is it failining, it is detremenal to the advancement of democratic ideals and American strategic goals. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:46:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry you got triggered, just reporting what was reported. Man, you are grasping at straws, if you wanted to pick a more embarrassing battle than Bakhmut, the one where Russian forces has failed since day one of the full invasion is it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:46:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps, you should reframe the question as: "why does Ukriane want to hold onto Bakmut, and why do they do they continue to send untrained teritoral defence units into that theater?" The "road of death" is analogist to the invasion of Iraq, there is no military benefit, it is only political. America first strategy in Ukraine is failing, I assume even you can agree that this is the case. Its a hard pill to swollow, but thousnds of Ukranian men and professional soliders will survive if there is a negotialed settlement and they can reorganize and maybe even enter NATO to deter the Russians for future conflicts. The casultly data from Bahkmut is simply disgusting, from both sides. America first policy is failing. Not only is it failining, it is detremenal to the advancement of democratic ideals and American strategic goals. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russias 72nd brigade got there ass handed to them in Bakhmut yesterday!! Ran like a bunch of bitches they are. Not looking good for OPs team. Lol... 3 square km took back in one day, it took Russia 9 months to get that piece hahahahaha. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-unit-says-russian-brigade-flees-bakhmut-outskirts-2023-05-10/ This looks like a leadership failure all around. What a shit show. And yet according to the Ukraine Bros the Russians are a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries unless we pay billions to the Zelensky. The con continues! So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? Nope Has Bahkmut fallen yet? Perhaps, you should reframe the question as: "why does Ukriane want to hold onto Bakmut, and why do they do they continue to send untrained teritoral defence units into that theater?" The "road of death" is analogist to the invasion of Iraq, there is no military benefit, it is only political. America first strategy in Ukraine is failing, I assume even you can agree that this is the case. Its a hard pill to swollow, but thousnds of Ukranian men and professional soliders will survive if there is a negotialed settlement and they can reorganize and maybe even enter NATO to deter the Russians for future conflicts. The casultly data from Bahkmut is simply disgusting, from both sides. America first policy is failing. Not only is it failining, it is detremenal to the advancement of democratic ideals and American strategic goals. is this a parody post? |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:52:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? The proof that Russia is a conventional threat to NATO involves Russia having population and GDP that is a threat to NATO. Alternatively, they would have needed to steamroll all of Ukraine in a month. Russia is certainly capable of grinding down Ukraine in a pointless war. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:52:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps, you should reframe the question as: "why does Ukriane want to hold onto Bakmut, and why do they do they continue to send untrained teritoral defence units into that theater?" The "road of death" is analogist to the invasion of Iraq, there is no military benefit, it is only political. America first strategy in Ukraine is failing, I assume even you can agree that this is the case. Its a hard pill to swollow, but thousnds of Ukranian men and professional soliders will survive if there is a negotialed settlement and they can reorganize and maybe even enter NATO to deter the Russians for future conflicts. The casultly data from Bahkmut is simply disgusting, from both sides. America first policy is failing. Not only is it failining, it is detremenal to the advancement of democratic ideals and American strategic goals. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russias 72nd brigade got there ass handed to them in Bakhmut yesterday!! Ran like a bunch of bitches they are. Not looking good for OPs team. Lol... 3 square km took back in one day, it took Russia 9 months to get that piece hahahahaha. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-unit-says-russian-brigade-flees-bakhmut-outskirts-2023-05-10/ This looks like a leadership failure all around. What a shit show. And yet according to the Ukraine Bros the Russians are a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries unless we pay billions to the Zelensky. The con continues! So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? Nope Has Bahkmut fallen yet? Perhaps, you should reframe the question as: "why does Ukriane want to hold onto Bakmut, and why do they do they continue to send untrained teritoral defence units into that theater?" The "road of death" is analogist to the invasion of Iraq, there is no military benefit, it is only political. America first strategy in Ukraine is failing, I assume even you can agree that this is the case. Its a hard pill to swollow, but thousnds of Ukranian men and professional soliders will survive if there is a negotialed settlement and they can reorganize and maybe even enter NATO to deter the Russians for future conflicts. The casultly data from Bahkmut is simply disgusting, from both sides. America first policy is failing. Not only is it failining, it is detremenal to the advancement of democratic ideals and American strategic goals.  I've never took psychedelic mushrooms before but is this what it's like?
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:53:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The proof that Russia is a conventional threat to NATO involves Russia having population and GDP that is a threat to NATO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? The proof that Russia is a conventional threat to NATO involves Russia having population and GDP that is a threat to NATO. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:55:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man, you are grasping at straws, if you wanted to pick a more embarrassing battle than Bakhmut, the one where Russian forces has failed since day one of the full invasion is it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sorry you got triggered, just reporting what was reported. Man, you are grasping at straws, if you wanted to pick a more embarrassing battle than Bakhmut, the one where Russian forces has failed since day one of the full invasion is it. Lol no shit! Also the VDV brigade that had to be reconstituted like 4 times because they kept sending there men in the same direction; full frontal assault though the biggest mine field around and losing something like 65 pieces of armor doing it, lol ya that's a great battle to choose OP.. 
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:55:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, this thread hasn’t aged well. Remember, good always prevails over evil. Tell that to 600 million of our allies who FDR sold out to communism. And thier children. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:59:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Arokie  duuuude I think you fell for the oldest trick in the book. seriously, name me ONE furnace that could even fit ONE tank?? Oooh man. You Ukie bros-thanks for the laugheroni! I’ll take that with a side of counter attackaroni  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60857/Screenshot_20230510-200301_Chrome_jpg-2812669.JPG https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvynpNVXsAEyRnL?format=jpg&name=large Edit: seen its already been posted.. lmao, I think it's safe to say Russias offensive was a huge bust. ?? @Arokie duuuude I think you fell for the oldest trick in the book. seriously, name me ONE furnace that could even fit ONE tank?? Oooh man. You Ukie bros-thanks for the laugheroni! I’ll take that with a side of counter attackaroni Lol, slow down on the shots of tequila my friend. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:59:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you familiar with the number of Russian armored vehicles that were destroyed there in the last month? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Avdiivka, you are seriously bringing the city that has been under threat for almost 8 years. Are you familiar with the number of Russian armored vehicles that were destroyed there in the last month? I'm gonna say yes because if I tell you I have no idea and really don't care you'll do your usual stick where you and the other Ukraine bros feign outrage and call me a troll for not knowing. So yes, it was shocking to see how many Russian tanks were destroyed in that very important area. Even though the Russians keep getting their ass kicked and somehow continue taking parts of the Ukraine, I'm sure they're still a very serious threat to the US and we need to send billions more to the Zelensky to keep us safe! |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:01:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm gonna say yes because if I tell you I have no idea and really don't care you'll do your usual stick where you and the other Ukraine bros feign outrage and call me a troll for not knowing. So yes, it was shocking to see how many Russian tanks were destroyed in that very important area. Even though the Russians keep getting their ass kicked and somehow continue taking parts of the Ukraine, I'm sure they're still a very serious threat to the US and we need to send billions more to the Zelensky to keep us safe! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Avdiivka, you are seriously bringing the city that has been under threat for almost 8 years. Are you familiar with the number of Russian armored vehicles that were destroyed there in the last month? I'm gonna say yes because if I tell you I have no idea and really don't care you'll do your usual stick where you and the other Ukraine bros feign outrage and call me a troll for not knowing. So yes, it was shocking to see how many Russian tanks were destroyed in that very important area. Even though the Russians keep getting their ass kicked and somehow continue taking parts of the Ukraine, I'm sure they're still a very serious threat to the US and we need to send billions more to the Zelensky to keep us safe! Do you really wonder why you have been accused of trolling? YOU brought up Avdiivka. Why? |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:03:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The proof that Russia is a conventional threat to NATO involves Russia having population and GDP that is a threat to NATO. Alternatively, they would have needed to steamroll all of Ukraine in a month. Russia is certainly capable of grinding down Ukraine in a pointless war. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? The proof that Russia is a conventional threat to NATO involves Russia having population and GDP that is a threat to NATO. Alternatively, they would have needed to steamroll all of Ukraine in a month. Russia is certainly capable of grinding down Ukraine in a pointless war. This would be common sense to most people but hey what do I know, I don't even know the important details like who some Russian guy is and the old name the Russians have for Bakhmut. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:05:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This would be common sense to most people but hey what do I know, I don't even know the important details like who some Russian guy is and the old name the Russians have for Bakhmut. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? The proof that Russia is a conventional threat to NATO involves Russia having population and GDP that is a threat to NATO. Alternatively, they would have needed to steamroll all of Ukraine in a month. Russia is certainly capable of grinding down Ukraine in a pointless war. This would be common sense to most people but hey what do I know, I don't even know the important details like who some Russian guy is and the old name the Russians have for Bakhmut. You see THAT as an example of “common sense”? Why? |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:06:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? The proof that Russia is a conventional threat to NATO involves Russia having population and GDP that is a threat to NATO. I also laugh at the idea of Russia as a conventional threat to NATO. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:08:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I also laugh at the idea of Russia as a conventional threat to NATO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? The proof that Russia is a conventional threat to NATO involves Russia having population and GDP that is a threat to NATO. I also laugh at the idea of Russia as a conventional threat to NATO. Because of “population and GDP” Yes, you actually said that. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:09:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You see THAT as an example of “common sense”? Why? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? The proof that Russia is a conventional threat to NATO involves Russia having population and GDP that is a threat to NATO. Alternatively, they would have needed to steamroll all of Ukraine in a month. Russia is certainly capable of grinding down Ukraine in a pointless war. This would be common sense to most people but hey what do I know, I don't even know the important details like who some Russian guy is and the old name the Russians have for Bakhmut. You see THAT as an example of “common sense”? Why? Now who's trolling ? Lol I finally understand it your claims that CPI is an honest measure of inflation and that Russia blew up thier own strategic infrastructure. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:09:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now who's trolling ? Lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? The proof that Russia is a conventional threat to NATO involves Russia having population and GDP that is a threat to NATO. Alternatively, they would have needed to steamroll all of Ukraine in a month. Russia is certainly capable of grinding down Ukraine in a pointless war. This would be common sense to most people but hey what do I know, I don't even know the important details like who some Russian guy is and the old name the Russians have for Bakhmut. You see THAT as an example of “common sense”? Why? Now who's trolling ? Lol It’s a serious question. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:11:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a serious question. Lol |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:13:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s a serious question. Lol Can you explain why Russia’s “GDP and population” is the reason they pose no “conventional threat”? It’s your bizarre claim. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:14:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you really wonder why you have been accused of trolling? YOU brought up Avdiivka. Why? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Avdiivka, you are seriously bringing the city that has been under threat for almost 8 years. Are you familiar with the number of Russian armored vehicles that were destroyed there in the last month? I'm gonna say yes because if I tell you I have no idea and really don't care you'll do your usual stick where you and the other Ukraine bros feign outrage and call me a troll for not knowing. So yes, it was shocking to see how many Russian tanks were destroyed in that very important area. Even though the Russians keep getting their ass kicked and somehow continue taking parts of the Ukraine, I'm sure they're still a very serious threat to the US and we need to send billions more to the Zelensky to keep us safe! Do you really wonder why you have been accused of trolling? YOU brought up Avdiivka. Why? "Do you really wonder why you have been accused of trolling?" - I don't wonder why, I know its because some people lack the ability to argue their point so they resort to childish name calling. You know, like the leftist calling everyone racist. "YOU brought up Avdiivka. Why?" - Because that was reported on the website I've been using to share info. I don't know anything about Avdiivka but I figured that it was important since they added it to their almost daily postings. If it's not important to you that the Russians took the Kam'yanka village, then please feel free to ignore the info.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:15:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You see THAT as an example of “common sense”? Why? Has the whole thread been like this? I bailed early, and came back to see what it turned into. All is lost it appears for Ukraine even before they get a chance to field the equipment they have been training with for months. 
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:15:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you explain why Russia's "GDP and population" is the reason they pose no "conventional threat"? It's your bizarre claim. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's a serious question. Lol Can you explain why Russia's "GDP and population" is the reason they pose no "conventional threat"? It's your bizarre claim. Lol, dude stop! |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:16:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I finally understand it your claims that CPI is an honest measure of inflation and that Russia blew up thier own strategic infrastructure. I have never in my life typed the letters “CPI” and haven’t the faintest idea what you’re talking about. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:18:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ”Do you really wonder why you have been accused of trolling?" - I don't wonder why, I know its because some people lack the ability to argue their point so they resort to childish name calling. You know, like the leftist calling everyone racist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Avdiivka, you are seriously bringing the city that has been under threat for almost 8 years. Are you familiar with the number of Russian armored vehicles that were destroyed there in the last month? I'm gonna say yes because if I tell you I have no idea and really don't care you'll do your usual stick where you and the other Ukraine bros feign outrage and call me a troll for not knowing. So yes, it was shocking to see how many Russian tanks were destroyed in that very important area. Even though the Russians keep getting their ass kicked and somehow continue taking parts of the Ukraine, I'm sure they're still a very serious threat to the US and we need to send billions more to the Zelensky to keep us safe! Do you really wonder why you have been accused of trolling? YOU brought up Avdiivka. Why? ”Do you really wonder why you have been accused of trolling?" - I don't wonder why, I know its because some people lack the ability to argue their point so they resort to childish name calling. You know, like the leftist calling everyone racist. Is that how you describe all those who noticed? That’s unfortunate. “…I don't know anything about Avdiivka but….” Got it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:20:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, dude stop! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's a serious question. Lol Can you explain why Russia's "GDP and population" is the reason they pose no "conventional threat"? It's your bizarre claim. Lol, dude stop! You have posted nothing of substance, nor demonstrated any knowledge on any topic associated with the subject of YOUR thread. When pressed in ANY fact, you claim ignorance and post THIS:  You are in no position to criticize or complain about or praise any post. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:36:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm gonna say yes because if I tell you I have no idea and really don't care you'll do your usual stick where you and the other Ukraine bros feign outrage and call me a troll for not knowing. So yes, it was shocking to see how many Russian tanks were destroyed in that very important area. Even though the Russians keep getting their ass kicked and somehow continue taking parts of the Ukraine, I'm sure they're still a very serious threat to the US and we need to send billions more to the Zelensky to keep us safe! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Avdiivka, you are seriously bringing the city that has been under threat for almost 8 years. Are you familiar with the number of Russian armored vehicles that were destroyed there in the last month? I'm gonna say yes because if I tell you I have no idea and really don't care you'll do your usual stick where you and the other Ukraine bros feign outrage and call me a troll for not knowing. So yes, it was shocking to see how many Russian tanks were destroyed in that very important area. Even though the Russians keep getting their ass kicked and somehow continue taking parts of the Ukraine, I'm sure they're still a very serious threat to the US and we need to send billions more to the Zelensky to keep us safe! took russia one whole month to gain 6.8km of land. while losing thousands of men and material.. that is 0.02% of Ukraine. At that rate we are bound to start seeing T-34's by the end of summer lol
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:42:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird. A day ago it was a "catastrophe" for Ukraine if it fell. The remaining 20%, I mean. Now it is strategically unimportant? Prigozhin is such a fuckin' cunt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This dude is saying Bakhmut isn’t an important strategic city either. I thiiiink this is the same one that commands a group of Russian musicians fighting in Bakhmut. Idk what instrument they play tho…but they say they’re at risk of being encircled. We publish a request from the editors of the Notebook publication and the answer: Dear Evgeny Viktorovich! The correspondent of the edition "Notepad" addresses you. Our editors would like to ask you the following question: In recent days, there have been many events related to the presence of PMC "Wagner" in Bakhmut, as well as the issuance of ammunition to the fighters. Can you give a summary of what is happening and briefly describe the current situation? Thanks in advance for your reply! We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin: 1. Bakhmut has no strategic importance; 2. Bakhmut was needed in order to, after the failures and retreat of the RF Armed Forces from Kharkov, Kherson and other regions, build up offensive potential, grind the enemy’s manpower and enable the Russian army to mobilize; 3. In view of the fear of internal competition, PMC "Wagner" began to "dry" in terms of personnel, weapons and ammunition, artificially reducing combat potential; 4. The effectiveness of the “Bakhmut meat grinder” decreased in April-May 2023, the Armed Forces of Ukraine gathered for a counteroffensive; 5. Due to the reduction in personnel, PMC "Wagner" was forced to transfer the flanks to the military; 6. There is a serious risk of encirclement of PMC "Wagner" in Bakhmut as a result of the failure of the flanks. The flanks are already cracking and falling through; 7. In the absence of ammunition, the "meat grinder" will work in the opposite direction: the Armed Forces of Ukraine will destroy PMC "Wagner"; 8. I demand ammunition in order to save the lives of the fighters and “put the squeeze on” Bakhmut, in which there are about 5% left occupied by the enemy; 9. At the moment, within the city of Bakhmut, there is only Wagner PMC, there are no other units. Outside Bakhmut - only the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, PMC "Wagner" is not there; 10. PMC "Wagner" planned to leave Bakhmut to save the lives of fighters and minimize senseless losses, since the remnants of ammunition were only enough until the end of the day on May 9, 2023; 11. The top leadership of the country was instructed by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to provide PMC "Wagner" with everything necessary; 12. On the night of May 6-7, 2023, a combat order was issued promising to give Wagner PMC ammunition; 13. During the day of May 8-9, 2023, the required amount of ammunition was not issued. Until now, ammunition has been filtered to a minimum; 14. PMC "Wagner" continues the offensive in Bakhmut and is awaiting a decision on the issuance of ammunition and weapons in the required quantity. https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3296 Weird. A day ago it was a "catastrophe" for Ukraine if it fell. The remaining 20%, I mean. Now it is strategically unimportant? Prigozhin is such a fuckin' cunt. Is that his name? Prigshizzel is like a conductor of musicians? Idk man I think the fact that they call themselves musicians is either Ukrainian or Russian disinfo. I don’t care either way. How do we know if they’re there??? |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:44:54 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: took russia one whole month to gain 6.8km of land. while losing thousands of men and material.. that is 0.02% of Ukraine. At that rate we are bound to start seeing T-34's by the end of summer lolQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Avdiivka, you are seriously bringing the city that has been under threat for almost 8 years. Are you familiar with the number of Russian armored vehicles that were destroyed there in the last month? I'm gonna say yes because if I tell you I have no idea and really don't care you'll do your usual stick where you and the other Ukraine bros feign outrage and call me a troll for not knowing. So yes, it was shocking to see how many Russian tanks were destroyed in that very important area. Even though the Russians keep getting their ass kicked and somehow continue taking parts of the Ukraine, I'm sure they're still a very serious threat to the US and we need to send billions more to the Zelensky to keep us safe! took russia one whole month to gain 6.8km of land. while losing thousands of men and material.. that is 0.02% of Ukraine. At that rate we are bound to start seeing T-34's by the end of summer lol |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:45:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that his name? Prigshizzel is like a conductor of musicians? Idk man I think the fact that they call themselves musicians is either Ukrainian or Russian disinfo. I don’t care either way. How do we know if they’re there??? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This dude is saying Bakhmut isn’t an important strategic city either. I thiiiink this is the same one that commands a group of Russian musicians fighting in Bakhmut. Idk what instrument they play tho…but they say they’re at risk of being encircled. We publish a request from the editors of the Notebook publication and the answer: Dear Evgeny Viktorovich! The correspondent of the edition "Notepad" addresses you. Our editors would like to ask you the following question: In recent days, there have been many events related to the presence of PMC "Wagner" in Bakhmut, as well as the issuance of ammunition to the fighters. Can you give a summary of what is happening and briefly describe the current situation? Thanks in advance for your reply! We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin: 1. Bakhmut has no strategic importance; 2. Bakhmut was needed in order to, after the failures and retreat of the RF Armed Forces from Kharkov, Kherson and other regions, build up offensive potential, grind the enemy’s manpower and enable the Russian army to mobilize; 3. In view of the fear of internal competition, PMC "Wagner" began to "dry" in terms of personnel, weapons and ammunition, artificially reducing combat potential; 4. The effectiveness of the “Bakhmut meat grinder” decreased in April-May 2023, the Armed Forces of Ukraine gathered for a counteroffensive; 5. Due to the reduction in personnel, PMC "Wagner" was forced to transfer the flanks to the military; 6. There is a serious risk of encirclement of PMC "Wagner" in Bakhmut as a result of the failure of the flanks. The flanks are already cracking and falling through; 7. In the absence of ammunition, the "meat grinder" will work in the opposite direction: the Armed Forces of Ukraine will destroy PMC "Wagner"; 8. I demand ammunition in order to save the lives of the fighters and “put the squeeze on” Bakhmut, in which there are about 5% left occupied by the enemy; 9. At the moment, within the city of Bakhmut, there is only Wagner PMC, there are no other units. Outside Bakhmut - only the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, PMC "Wagner" is not there; 10. PMC "Wagner" planned to leave Bakhmut to save the lives of fighters and minimize senseless losses, since the remnants of ammunition were only enough until the end of the day on May 9, 2023; 11. The top leadership of the country was instructed by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to provide PMC "Wagner" with everything necessary; 12. On the night of May 6-7, 2023, a combat order was issued promising to give Wagner PMC ammunition; 13. During the day of May 8-9, 2023, the required amount of ammunition was not issued. Until now, ammunition has been filtered to a minimum; 14. PMC "Wagner" continues the offensive in Bakhmut and is awaiting a decision on the issuance of ammunition and weapons in the required quantity. https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3296 Weird. A day ago it was a "catastrophe" for Ukraine if it fell. The remaining 20%, I mean. Now it is strategically unimportant? Prigozhin is such a fuckin' cunt. Is that his name? Prigshizzel is like a conductor of musicians? Idk man I think the fact that they call themselves musicians is either Ukrainian or Russian disinfo. I don’t care either way. How do we know if they’re there??? 
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:45:22 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Do you really wonder why you have been accused of trolling?" - I don't wonder why, I know its because some people lack the ability to argue their point so they resort to childish name calling. You know, like the leftist calling everyone racist. "YOU brought up Avdiivka. Why?" - Because that was reported on the website I've been using to share info. I don't know anything about Avdiivka but I figured that it was important since they added it to their almost daily postings. If it's not important to you that the Russians took Kam'yanka village, then please feel free to ignore the info. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/288245/Screenshot_20230510_200522_Brave_jpg-2812819.JPG Avdiivka was supposed to be captured by the victory parade. So was bakhmut. Yet none of that has happened |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:45:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, slow down on the shots of tequila my friend. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60857/Screenshot_20230510-200301_Chrome_jpg-2812669.JPG https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvynpNVXsAEyRnL?format=jpg&name=large Edit: seen its already been posted.. lmao, I think it's safe to say Russias offensive was a huge bust. ?? @Arokie duuuude I think you fell for the oldest trick in the book. seriously, name me ONE furnace that could even fit ONE tank?? Oooh man. You Ukie bros-thanks for the laugheroni! I’ll take that with a side of counter attackaroni Lol, slow down on the shots of tequila my friend. 
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:46:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many times do you suppose you have you posted that particular emoji in this thread? |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:50:02 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Avdiivka was supposed to be captured by the victory parade. So was bakhmut. Yet none of that has happened Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Do you really wonder why you have been accused of trolling?" - I don't wonder why, I know its because some people lack the ability to argue their point so they resort to childish name calling. You know, like the leftist calling everyone racist. "YOU brought up Avdiivka. Why?" - Because that was reported on the website I've been using to share info. I don't know anything about Avdiivka but I figured that it was important since they added it to their almost daily postings. If it's not important to you that the Russians took Kam'yanka village, then please feel free to ignore the info. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/288245/Screenshot_20230510_200522_Brave_jpg-2812819.JPG Avdiivka was supposed to be captured by the victory parade. So was bakhmut. Yet none of that has happened Thank you for validating my claim that Russia isn't a conventional threat to the US and NATO. #stopthezelenskyscam |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:50:27 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many times do you suppose you have you posted that particular emoji in this thread? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How many times do you suppose you have you posted that particular emoji in this thread? |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:53:45 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you for validating my claim that Russia isn't a conventional threat to the US and NATO. #stopthezelenskyscam Because Russias spear bent and broke north of Kyiv. What was found out was the Russia’s varsity team wasn’t as deep as thought. That doesn’t mean that they weren’t a threat to parts of the West, especially the Baltics. Nor does it mean their leadership didn’t have larger plans. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 11:54:33 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you for validating my claim that Russia isn't a conventional threat to the US and NATO. #stopthezelenskyscam Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Do you really wonder why you have been accused of trolling?" - I don't wonder why, I know its because some people lack the ability to argue their point so they resort to childish name calling. You know, like the leftist calling everyone racist. "YOU brought up Avdiivka. Why?" - Because that was reported on the website I've been using to share info. I don't know anything about Avdiivka but I figured that it was important since they added it to their almost daily postings. If it's not important to you that the Russians took Kam'yanka village, then please feel free to ignore the info. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/288245/Screenshot_20230510_200522_Brave_jpg-2812819.JPG Avdiivka was supposed to be captured by the victory parade. So was bakhmut. Yet none of that has happened Thank you for validating my claim that Russia isn't a conventional threat to the US and NATO. #stopthezelenskyscam Is the point of this thread to cheer on the Russians as the finally take “Bakhmut”? Or is it to point to their FAILURES in Bakhmut to prove that they aren’t a threat to NATO? |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:04:02 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the point of this thread to cheer on the Russians as the finally take “Bakhmut”? Or is it to point to their FAILURES in Bakhmut to prove that they aren’t a threat to NATO? False dilemma. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:07:32 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps, you should reframe the question as: "why does Ukriane want to hold onto Bakmut, and why do they do they continue to send untrained teritoral defence units into that theater?" The "road of death" is analogist to the invasion of Iraq, there is no military benefit, it is only political. America first strategy in Ukraine is failing, I assume even you can agree that this is the case. Its a hard pill to swollow, but thousnds of Ukranian men and professional soliders will survive if there is a negotialed settlement and they can reorganize and maybe even enter NATO to deter the Russians for future conflicts. The casultly data from Bahkmut is simply disgusting, from both sides. America first policy is failing. Not only is it failining, it is detremenal to the advancement of democratic ideals and American strategic goals. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russias 72nd brigade got there ass handed to them in Bakhmut yesterday!! Ran like a bunch of bitches they are. Not looking good for OPs team. Lol... 3 square km took back in one day, it took Russia 9 months to get that piece hahahahaha. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-unit-says-russian-brigade-flees-bakhmut-outskirts-2023-05-10/ This looks like a leadership failure all around. What a shit show. And yet according to the Ukraine Bros the Russians are a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries unless we pay billions to the Zelensky. The con continues! So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? Nope Has Bahkmut fallen yet? Perhaps, you should reframe the question as: "why does Ukriane want to hold onto Bakmut, and why do they do they continue to send untrained teritoral defence units into that theater?" The "road of death" is analogist to the invasion of Iraq, there is no military benefit, it is only political. America first strategy in Ukraine is failing, I assume even you can agree that this is the case. Its a hard pill to swollow, but thousnds of Ukranian men and professional soliders will survive if there is a negotialed settlement and they can reorganize and maybe even enter NATO to deter the Russians for future conflicts. The casultly data from Bahkmut is simply disgusting, from both sides. America first policy is failing. Not only is it failining, it is detremenal to the advancement of democratic ideals and American strategic goals. What does negotiated settlement mean to you ? If it means letting Putin keep the land he took I don't think that is reasonable to expect Ukraine to accept it. If that is the case why ever fight any war to defend your land its easier just to give it up. If it means all Russians go home sure that would be a reasonable settlement to discuss. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:07:47 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you explain why Russia’s “GDP and population” is the reason they pose no “conventional threat”? It’s your bizarre claim. That is not my claim. That is part of my claim. Reading: try it. Your bizarre functional illiteracy does not make my claim bizzare. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:07:54 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: False dilemma. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is the point of this thread to cheer on the Russians as the finally take “Bakhmut”? Or is it to point to their FAILURES in Bakhmut to prove that they aren’t a threat to NATO? False dilemma. No. It’s an observation that the OP has made both points. There’s no dilemma. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:08:51 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is not my claim. That is part of my claim. Reading: try it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can you explain why Russia’s “GDP and population” is the reason they pose no “conventional threat”? It’s your bizarre claim. That is not my claim. That is part of my claim. Reading: try it. I tried it. Your claim is still bizarre. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:12:12 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I tried it. Your claim is still bizarre. Your functional illiteracy and fallacious reasoning would be bizarre if you didn't look like a troll. Have a good night sir. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:17:31 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your functional illiteracy and fallacious reasoning would be bizarre if you didn't look like a troll. Have a good night sir. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I tried it. Your claim is still bizarre. Your functional illiteracy and fallacious reasoning would be bizarre if you didn't look like a troll. Have a good night sir. You claim is still nonsensical, no matter how many insults you hurl. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:18:42 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. It's an observation that the OP has made both points. There's no dilemma. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is the point of this thread to cheer on the Russians as the finally take "Bakhmut"? Or is it to point to their FAILURES in Bakhmut to prove that they aren't a threat to NATO? False dilemma. No. It's an observation that the OP has made both points. There's no dilemma. "Is the point of this thread to cheer on the Russians as the finally take "Bakhmut"?" - Lol, it's all in your head bro! Take a deep breath and stop being so emotional. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:19:01 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What does negotiated settlement mean to you ? If it means letting Putin keep the land he took I don't think that is reasonable to expect Ukraine to accept it. If that is the case why ever fight any war to defend your land its easier just to give it up. If it means all Russians go home sure that would be a reasonable settlement to discuss. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russias 72nd brigade got there ass handed to them in Bakhmut yesterday!! Ran like a bunch of bitches they are. Not looking good for OPs team. Lol... 3 square km took back in one day, it took Russia 9 months to get that piece hahahahaha. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-unit-says-russian-brigade-flees-bakhmut-outskirts-2023-05-10/ This looks like a leadership failure all around. What a shit show. And yet according to the Ukraine Bros the Russians are a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries unless we pay billions to the Zelensky. The con continues! So if Russia were to take Bakhmut, would that prove that the Russians ARE a huge conventional threat to us and will be rolling through NATO countries? Nope Has Bahkmut fallen yet? Perhaps, you should reframe the question as: "why does Ukriane want to hold onto Bakmut, and why do they do they continue to send untrained teritoral defence units into that theater?" The "road of death" is analogist to the invasion of Iraq, there is no military benefit, it is only political. America first strategy in Ukraine is failing, I assume even you can agree that this is the case. Its a hard pill to swollow, but thousnds of Ukranian men and professional soliders will survive if there is a negotialed settlement and they can reorganize and maybe even enter NATO to deter the Russians for future conflicts. The casultly data from Bahkmut is simply disgusting, from both sides. America first policy is failing. Not only is it failining, it is detremenal to the advancement of democratic ideals and American strategic goals. What does negotiated settlement mean to you ? If it means letting Putin keep the land he took I don't think that is reasonable to expect Ukraine to accept it. If that is the case why ever fight any war to defend your land its easier just to give it up. If it means all Russians go home sure that would be a reasonable settlement to discuss. Living is all that matters. Sure there will be some tortures and executions (if you believe the propaganda) but very many will live that aren’t killed. Look at it like life under leftists here. The important thing is just living. So all the conservatives have no real reason to fight. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 12:21:33 AM EDT
[#50]
Looks like Russia is losing terrain.
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