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Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:18:54 AM EST
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I loved it too. I felt Wallace doing away with the new replicant was melodramatic, but it really was quite good.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:21:11 AM EST
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I loved it too. I felt Wallace doing away with the new replicant was melodramatic, but it really was quite good.
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He's a god. doing godlike things. Bringer of life and death. He just likes the feel of it... and the reassurances.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:27:34 AM EST
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Guess I should watch it. I've been putting it off.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:28:37 AM EST
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I was dead set against this movie. Thought it was a dumb idea, and it didn’t need to be made.

Saw it in IMAX, and I fucking loved it. Frankly, in some ways I thought it surpassed the original.

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Even people who love the first one (myself included), admit that it had flimsy, threadbare plot.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:30:51 AM EST
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I was dead set against this movie. Thought it was a dumb idea, and it didn't need to be made.

Saw it in IMAX, and I fucking loved it. Frankly, in some ways I thought it surpassed the original.
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Yeah, it's one of those examples where it's probably better than the original.

I seen it just once, but they kind of brush aside the Deckard Replicant theory right? I don't remember them saying he was one, which would have ruined the movie for me, if they said he was a Replicant.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:33:15 AM EST
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Yeah, it's one of those examples where it's probably better than the original.

I seen it just once, but they kind of brush aside the Deckard Replicant theory right? I don't remember them saying he was one, which would have ruined the movie for me, if they said he was a Replicant.
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He still could be a nexus 8 like Rachel, and Sapper.  Open ended lifespan.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:37:33 AM EST
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Very well stated. I was not a huge fanboi of the original, but this was awesome.

So when is the rest of Hollywood going to get the message that good writing, relate-able characters and thematic depth trumps a bunch of CGI non-sense and explosions???
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Never, because this movie unfortunately bombed, and the Fast and the Furious/Transformers movies basically print money...
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:41:34 AM EST
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He still could be a nexus 8 like Rachel, and Sapper.  Open ended lifespan.
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Yeah, I hope not. It makes the first movie really fucking stupid. Because why would you send a model that needs to be briefed about his targets and their traits and weaknesses by a Police Chief? And he is a absolute bitch compared to them in hand-to-hand combat.

If he was a Replicant, he should have been like a John Wick Replicant. Not some weak ass punk that also needs to be told how to capture his targets.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:43:16 AM EST
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I read an article saying Ridley Scott has part 3 ready to go.   If there’s anyone in Hollywood who can convince a studio to make a sequel to a bomb, it’s him. Besides, with foreign, and video sales, I think this will do ok in the end, especially with word of mouth.

Vudu has a disk and digital option where if you’re impatient like me you can buy the streaming version and then when the Blu-ray is available, Walmart mails it to you. So I did that.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:52:32 AM EST
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I enjoyed it. The scene where his hologram melds with the prostitute was breathtaking.

Mackenzie Davis is pretty cute, too.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 10:57:11 AM EST
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Yeah, I hope not. It makes the first movie really fucking stupid. Because why would you send a model that needs to be briefed about his targets and their traits and weaknesses by a Police Chief? And he is a absolute bitch compared to them in hand-to-hand combat.

If he was a Replicant, he should have been like a John Wick Replicant. Not some weak ass punk that also needs to be told how to capture his targets.
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He could have been a newborn in 2019.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 11:20:13 AM EST
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Dunkirk was exceptionally flawed, TLJ was girly Disney bullshit.

2049 BR is an art/action film fit for fans of gritty science fiction.
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Villaneuve knows how to make a superb film. Although I enjoyed it, I can see why it did not do as well as the studios wanted it do. If you weren't into the original or aware of it, I don't think it would have appealed to you as much.
I'd also argue that sequels for movies that originated in the 80s have just not done well. Maybe they've outlived their appeal.  
Alien, Terminator, Ghostbusters, Die Hard. Maybe the new Top Gun producers should be worried.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 11:22:22 AM EST
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Villaneuve knows how to make a superb film. Although I enjoyed it, I can see why it did not do as well as the studios wanted it do. If you weren't into the original or aware of it, I don't think it would have appealed to you as much.
I'd also argue that sequels for movies that originated in the 80s have just not done well. Maybe they've outlived their appeal.  
Alien, Terminator, Ghostbusters, Die Hard. Maybe the new Top Gun producers should be worried.
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Blade Runner was a flop in 1982. It earned its money back over time.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 11:26:26 AM EST
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I read an article saying Ridley Scott has part 3 ready to go.   If there's anyone in Hollywood who can convince a studio to make a sequel to a bomb, it's him. Besides, with foreign, and video sales, I think this will do ok in the end, especially with word of mouth.

Vudu has a disk and digital option where if you're impatient like me you can buy the streaming version and then when the Blu-ray is available, Walmart mails it to you. So I did that.
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It made 100 million profit from world wide sales, before dvd sales.  I would think that's ok for a sequel.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 11:29:18 AM EST
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Did not like it. The global warming bullshit was too much for me to get past. I respect pollution is bad. The first one addressed pollution (real), and overpopulation (not currently supported by many current population forecasts-not that most white guilters don't still believe it). This one still loved the overpopulation angle, but dug in to global warming myth

iirc somehow they equates warming with less water to boot.  Funny that warming should cause higher sea levels
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 11:29:47 AM EST
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Luv really stole the show for me. I would have liked to have seen more of Mairette.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 11:36:55 AM EST
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Did not like it. The global warming bullshit was too much for me to get past. I respect pollution is bad. The first one addressed pollution (real), and overpopulation (not currently supported by many current population forecasts-not that most white guilters don't still believe it). This one still loved the overpopulation angle, but dug in to global warming myth

iirc somehow they equates warming with less water to boot.  Funny that warming should cause higher sea levels
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Overpopulation?

In the world of BR, everyone who can move off world has already done so. You recall the empty buildings of the first?

And it follows exactly the predictions made by the first with regards to the environment. AND throw In a global EMP event that wiped out all magnetically stored data on top of that.

It has its own internal logic that I’m fine with.

I mean really, what do you think Los Angeles will look like in 31 years?
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 11:39:58 AM EST
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I mean really, what do you think Los Angeles will look like in 31 years?
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Not like it's depicted. But it's still a great movie. It doesn't have to line up with reality, to be a great film.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 11:46:56 AM EST
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Did not like it. The global warming bullshit was too much for me to get past. I respect pollution is bad. The first one addressed pollution (real), and overpopulation (not currently supported by many current population forecasts-not that most white guilters don't still believe it). This one still loved the overpopulation angle, but dug in to global warming myth

iirc somehow they equates warming with less water to boot.  Funny that warming should cause higher sea levels
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It's a dark, dystopic trashed future earth.  It's a pretty common theme in sci-fi.  It may be a myth but it makes for a nice bleak futurescape.  Frankly it never even occurred to me in the film. It was the same bleak landscape of the original.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 12:01:12 PM EST
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Not like it's depicted. But it's still a great movie. It doesn't have to line up with reality, to be a great film.
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It will look bad. But you’re right. In story telling terms, that’s called Internal logic.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 12:07:03 PM EST
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Yeah, I hope not. It makes the first movie really fucking stupid. Because why would you send a model that needs to be briefed about his targets and their traits and weaknesses by a Police Chief? And he is a absolute bitch compared to them in hand-to-hand combat.

If he was a Replicant, he should have been like a John Wick Replicant. Not some weak ass punk that also needs to be told how to capture his targets.
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Deckard is not a Replicant.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 12:07:44 PM EST
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I had just fled from over 19 years of spousal abuse when I went to see Blade Runner 2049.  The theme of humanity in relationships in this movie hit me like a freight train.

Watching the portrayal of emotionally stunted "individuals" enjoy deeper bonding than anything I've yet experienced moved me in ways you can't imagine.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 12:10:51 PM EST
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BTW, I think Villeneuve is working on a Dune remake. I welcome that.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 12:19:21 PM EST
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God yes, I would love to see that.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 3:34:46 PM EST
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I'd also argue that sequels for movies that originated in the 80s have just not done well. Maybe they've outlived their appeal.  
Alien, Terminator, Ghostbusters, Die Hard.
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Those sequels covered the spectrum from "sort of dumb" to "utter, unmitigated shit". I'm not sure they're a good yardstick by which to gauge the bankability of the property.

(Yeah, "bankability" is word I just made up.)
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 3:39:17 PM EST
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Absolutely exceptional movie. Probably the best of 2017.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 3:44:12 PM EST
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This movie was awful.  I want my 2.5 or so hours back.  People were saying this was visually stunning.  The original looked better.  The story line was as flat as I have seen in a long time.  Just horrible.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 3:45:34 PM EST
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This movie was awful.  I want my 2.5 or so hours back.  People were saying this was visually stunning.  The original looked better.  The story line was as flat as I have seen in a long time.  Just horrible.
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Link Posted: 1/8/2018 3:47:25 PM EST
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Polarizing movie. It's like we've had a bunch of those this year. Dunkirk, Last Jedi, Blade Runner.
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Agreed on all 3 of the ones you listed.

Dunkirk was an absolute cinematic masterpiece.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 3:54:13 PM EST
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Yeah, it's one of those examples where it's probably better than the original.

I seen it just once, but they kind of brush aside the Deckard Replicant theory right? I don't remember them saying he was one, which would have ruined the movie for me, if they said he was a Replicant.
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Final 15 minutes of the movie Wallace scene implies could or could not be. Director disagreed with Scotts idea and preferred to keep the mystery and stay ambiguous. Director of 2049 says it’s not an important aspect of the story
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 4:02:27 PM EST
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Final 15 minutes of the movie Wallace scene implies could or could not be. Director disagreed with Scotts idea and preferred to keep the mystery and stay ambiguous. Director of 2049 says it's not an important aspect of the story
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Yeah. Thank God. hahaha
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 4:05:50 PM EST
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I thought it was awesome.  Waaaay better than what I was expecting.  The Cinematography was outstanding.

And yes, his electronic girlfriend is extremely attractive.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 4:13:38 PM EST
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Polarizing movie. It's like we've had a bunch of those this year. Dunkirk, Last Jedi, Blade Runner.
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Agreed on all 3 of the ones you listed.  
Dunkirk was an absolute cinematic masterpiece.
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Dunkirk was a boring, muddled, mess that was far too artsy for its own good, and did a shitty job of telling the story of Operation Dynamo.

Last Jedi was kind of fun, until you started... well... thinking... at which point it became readily apparent how lame it was.

Blade Runner 2049... kicked ass.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 4:19:28 PM EST
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Been trying to love the new ones, brother - the new ones from this last movie.
IF someone eventually made them very well, I'd be in for one.

I also went to Etsy just like you as of recent but couldn't bring myself to complete the purchase; still not up to the past (replica prop gun) in terms of quality.

In fact, what you are seeing in the picture above was far earlier than the Japanese version you mentioned; it's one of the first well made ones from well known (at the time) Rich Coyle.

I have also a few of the Tomenosuke ones, one pictured below.
These are of stunning quality and not exclusively display pieces; you can actually handle them not having them self destruct in your hands

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100% on board with everything you wrote and thanks for the clarification on the blasters. I only considered the cheap Etsy knockoff because some Halloween events have issues with anything resembling a gun and I wouldn’t want a nice version damaged or lost at some Hollywood party because the security staff take issue with it. Ideally the rubber ones actors use for stunt work would make do for a situation outside the home. Then again I don’t want LAPD shooting me because everyone in anti gun L.A. county with a cell phone reports me as a threat walking from my car to a Bel Air or Woodland Hills estate
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 4:34:07 PM EST
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Dunkirk was a boring, muddled, mess that was far too artsy for its own good,
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The irony is that many people said that this was the reason that Blade Runner failed at the box office, including Ridley Scott who wants to do a 3rd one.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 4:34:11 PM EST
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I was apprehensive about the sequel, but it kicked ass.
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this.  the original was one of the movies that taught me how movies ought to be.  with the exception of vegas sky-cam, 2049 held its own.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 4:39:04 PM EST
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Are you being hunted?
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I was taught how to cover my tracks
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:13:23 PM EST
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I thought it was awesome.  Waaaay better than what I was expecting.  The Cinematography was outstanding.

And yes, his electronic girlfriend is extremely attractive.
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I thought the scene where his AI gf, holograph overlayed over the Pleasure model, was pretty cool.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:13:25 PM EST
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Production shot or screen capture off of actual movie (I bought it too now, iTunes)?

Great picture.

PS always loved Harrison. He been my hero since 1977 (hence, the first part of my screen name, 'Solo')
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:24:29 PM EST
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Enjoyed the movie.

Unfortunately, in the theatre I watched it in, the volume knob was turned up PAST 11, all the way to 12.

The scene where he stands in front of the giant nude hologram was SOFA KING loud, it actually hurt.

I'd like to watch it again when I have control over the volume knob.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:25:46 PM EST
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Can someone please explain the ending?  Was it what I think it was, or something different?
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:27:26 PM EST
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K died in reuniting father and daughter.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:31:17 PM EST
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The memory implant specialist was his daughter. All of the little horse carvings & stuff from his childhood he remembered were actually Deckard's daughter's real memories. So, in a way, he was also Deckard's son, even though he wasn't biologically.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:33:21 PM EST
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Enjoyed the movie.

Unfortunately, in the theatre I watched it in, the volume knob was turned up PAST 11, all the way to 12.

The scene where he stands in front of the giant nude hologram was SOFA KING loud, it actually hurt.

I'd like to watch it again when I have control over the volume knob.
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Same for me... but I thought of it as more of a feature of the movie, lol... we were MEANT to feel overwhelmed.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:39:11 PM EST
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I'm jealous of you fuckers that got to see it in IMAX. I missed it by 1 or 2 weeks. They must of pulled it out of IMAX early, after the bad opening sales.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:40:37 PM EST
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Those sequels covered the spectrum from "sort of dumb" to "utter, unmitigated shit". I'm not sure they're a good yardstick by which to gauge the bankability of the property.

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No, It's a common Hollyweird term actually.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:46:37 PM EST
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I'm one of those who thinks it surpasses the first movie.

What I loved about it is that K lost everything to finish his mission.   His job, his hope of being something exceptional, his girlfriend, his memories, his life.   When he faces the Joi hologram near the end, you feel the impact of the totality of his loss.  He's just empty... of everything but determination.

I don't think you can have a good drama without a certain level of sacrifice.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 5:46:59 PM EST
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The memory implant specialist was his daughter. All of the little horse carvings & stuff from his childhood he remembered were actually Deckard's daughter's real memories. So, in a way, he was also Deckard's son, even though he wasn't biologically.
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Can someone please explain the ending?  Was it what I think it was, or something different?
The memory implant specialist was his daughter. All of the little horse carvings & stuff from his childhood he remembered were actually Deckard's daughter's real memories. So, in a way, he was also Deckard's son, even though he wasn't biologically.
But K had the same DNA as his daughter as the decoy. If he had the DNA, he would have had to a replicant descendent.
Link Posted: 1/8/2018 6:06:37 PM EST
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I'm one of those who thinks it surpasses the first movie.

What I loved about it is that K lost everything to finish his mission.   His job, his hope of being something exceptional, his girlfriend, his memories, his life.   When he faces the Joi hologram near the end, you feel the impact of the totality of his loss.  He's just empty... of everything but determination.

I don't think you can have a good drama without a certain level of sacrifice.
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you'd almost think that was intentional.



seriously--that scene is tremendously important, because it makes us question whether he and joi are any different.  joi is loveable and devoted...because she is programmed that way in order to be a marketable companion ("everything you want to hear").  K is relentless, curious, and determined--exactly the traits you want for a policeman.  isn't that convenient?

the thing is, we develop an emotional relationship with joi because she gives a credible simulation of actually loving K.  so does that mean that she's as much a person as K or deckard?

this is the evolution of the story.  first, replicants make us ask "what is human?"  joi is the next phase: "what is sentience?"  the obvious question is whether joi was actually capable of being murdered.

edit: my post could have done without the emote.  dunno why i'm so edgy lately.
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