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It's their damned job to monitor all communications with foreign leaders. Checks and balances. The founders liked them, why don't you? Don't believe in or trust the founding docs? Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really? |
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on... Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The POTUS pretty clearly abused the power of his office though. Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS! Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right. |
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on... Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS! View Quote |
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What transcripts? Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The POTUS pretty clearly abused the power of his office though. Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS! Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right. |
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When did I say any of that? I'll wait here and not hold my breath. You guys can't argue facts so you just make up bizarre fantasies. It's sad. I really though "our side" had facts and logic on its side and the dems were the crazy derptards. Imagine my surprise and disappointment to see even those I respected fall for this bullshit... BTW, you are aware that the transcripts were released on order of trump, right? The guys an idiot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The POTUS pretty clearly abused the power of his office though. Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS! You guys can't argue facts so you just make up bizarre fantasies. It's sad. I really though "our side" had facts and logic on its side and the dems were the crazy derptards. Imagine my surprise and disappointment to see even those I respected fall for this bullshit... BTW, you are aware that the transcripts were released on order of trump, right? The guys an idiot. |
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When did I say any of that? I'll wait here and not hold my breath. You guys can't argue facts so you just make up bizarre fantasies. It's sad. I really though "our side" had facts and logic on its side and the dems were the crazy derptards. Imagine my surprise and disappointment to see even those I respected fall for this bullshit... BTW, you are aware that the transcripts were released on order of trump, right? The guys an idiot. View Quote |
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Post the sections please that refer to those items. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on... Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS! Go find and read it yourself. It's on the white house website, smart guy. Attached File |
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From the guy who pushed the "muh Russia" fantasy for 3 years side by side with the left. Now jumping on the "muh Ukraine" wagon when that petered out into nothing is what is truly sad View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When did I say any of that? I'll wait here and not hold my breath. You guys can't argue facts so you just make up bizarre fantasies. It's sad. I really though "our side" had facts and logic on its side and the dems were the crazy derptards. Imagine my surprise and disappointment to see even those I respected fall for this bullshit... BTW, you are aware that the transcripts were released on order of trump, right? The guys an idiot. Discussing the news and current events is not pushing anything. Holy shit... |
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What transcripts? Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right. View Quote |
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So, is that a no? Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's their damned job to monitor all communications with foreign leaders. Checks and balances. The founders liked them, why don't you? Don't believe in or trust the founding docs? Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really? It's treason at best, and a flat out Communist coup at worst. But trying to get that into your thick skull is like talking to a brick wall. Shit, I'd probably have better luck trying to talk to a brick wall... Why are you here again anyways if all you do is parrot leftist garbage? To divert any conversation whatsoever that could call into question said garbage? |
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You guys weren't even aware of them obviously, LOL!!!!! View Quote Its so "clear cut" to you....you should be able to post all the nefarious sections so we can see them. But no..... |
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He is taking a line from Schiff. He is translating the English that was spoken into English that he wishes that was spoken. He is telling us common folk that Trump was talking in code and that Schiff has cracked the code. Furthermore, these people are wrapping Biden's actions up into an "election" and thus making them off limits for "Republican" law enforcement to look into. All a dem has to do is run for office, and then they can do whatever the fuck they want.....bc it will be "wrong" for anybody but another dem to investigate them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What transcripts? Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right. Denying the clear meaning of a conversation in very clear English is the new play? LOL!!! |
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You guys weren't even aware of them obviously, LOL!!!!! Go find and read it yourself. It's on the white house website, smart guy.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59063/Girls_jpg-1108783.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on... Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS! Go find and read it yourself. It's on the white house website, smart guy.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59063/Girls_jpg-1108783.JPG |
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So, is that a no? Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really? View Quote There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country. Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you. |
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Intelligence agencies collecting intelligence on political leaders (especially the president) and manipulating, "leaking", or "whistleblowing" made up bullshit so the media can manipulate the public with no proof isn't checks and balances. It's also not even close to what our founding fathers envisioned for our government. Far from it actually. It's treason at best, and a flat out Communist coup at worst. But trying to get that into your thick skull is like talking to a brick wall. Shit, I'd probably have better luck trying to talk to a brick wall... Why are you here again anyways if all you do is parrot leftist garbage? To divert any conversation whatsoever that could call into question said garbage? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's their damned job to monitor all communications with foreign leaders. Checks and balances. The founders liked them, why don't you? Don't believe in or trust the founding docs? Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really? It's treason at best, and a flat out Communist coup at worst. But trying to get that into your thick skull is like talking to a brick wall. Shit, I'd probably have better luck trying to talk to a brick wall... Why are you here again anyways if all you do is parrot leftist garbage? To divert any conversation whatsoever that could call into question said garbage? |
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Derp!!!! Discussing the news and current events is not pushing anything. Holy shit... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When did I say any of that? I'll wait here and not hold my breath. You guys can't argue facts so you just make up bizarre fantasies. It's sad. I really though "our side" had facts and logic on its side and the dems were the crazy derptards. Imagine my surprise and disappointment to see even those I respected fall for this bullshit... BTW, you are aware that the transcripts were released on order of trump, right? The guys an idiot. Discussing the news and current events is not pushing anything. Holy shit... |
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on... Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS! View Quote The best argument that can be mustered to that effect is there was an implication that Trump withheld funds (which apparently the Ukranian government didn't know about until well after the call) and then in some sort of subtext of the phone call there's an unspoken quid-pro-quo. This accusation comes after years of completely fabricated allegations of Russian collusion, and it comes from the same people who continually lied in service to that fabricated narrative. Sold in much the same manner as this one. When you read the transcript, it was the Ukranian president who brought up Rudy Guliani and the investigations. Trump mentioned Crowdstrike...which is a perfectly valid thing to look into because the entire Russian interference hoax is based on Crowstrike's "analysis" of the DNC servers. An "analysis" that was never independently verified. In fact, the FBI only ever got a draft of a report from Crowdstrike, one that had gone through DNC lawyers before ever being handed over. That is not evidence. It would be quite nice to know exactly what the fuck Crowdstrike was up to, especially since the organization had a bunch of puzzling and concerning ties inside the Ukraine. It's also worth noting that the decision to withhold the funds in question was made while there was a Ukranian election going on. Trump ordered a review of how the funding was to be used. And this was done after the Trump administration had gone much farther in the provision of military aid to the Ukraine than the Obama administration. And this comes as the Trump administration in general has been reevaluating aid to all manner of countries, including harassing our NATO allies to actually pony up and pay for shit they are supposed to be paying for. So with a well-established track record of taking a more skeptical approach to foreign aid in general, having already provided significantly more military aid to the Ukraine (including weapons) than the Obama administration, we're expected to see that Trump ordering a review of further aid to the Ukraine while it was unknown as to who, exactly, was going to be leading the Ukranian government is improper. That's quite a stretch. |
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the words and meanings you claim are simply not there. Everybody has read them. Furthermore, your team is working very hard to keep Obama admin wrong doing from being investigated. Whatcha hidin? Its so "clear cut" to you....you should be able to post all the nefarious sections so we can see them. But no..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You guys weren't even aware of them obviously, LOL!!!!! Its so "clear cut" to you....you should be able to post all the nefarious sections so we can see them. But no..... |
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The intelligence agencies have been corrupted into acting to protect the powerful in this country above all else. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country. Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, is that a no? Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really? There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country. Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you. How long has he been in office? It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it. |
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The word though laughs at your fantasy... Denying the clear meaning of a conversation in very clear English is the new play? LOL!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What transcripts? Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right. Denying the clear meaning of a conversation in very clear English is the new play? LOL!!! We'll wait. |
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There is a transcript...but, crucially, that transcript does not actually say what you have alleged. The best argument that can be mustered to that effect is there was an implication that Trump withheld funds (which apparently the Ukranian government didn't know about until well after the call) and then in some sort of subtext of the phone call there's an unspoken quid-pro-quo. This accusation comes after years of completely fabricated allegations of Russian collusion, and it comes from the same people who continually lied in service to that fabricated narrative. Sold in much the same manner as this one. When you read the transcript, it was the Ukranian president who brought up Rudy Guliani and the investigations. Trump mentioned Crowdstrike...which is a perfectly valid thing to look into because the entire Russian interference hoax is based on Crowstrike's "analysis" of the DNC servers. An "analysis" that was never independently verified. In fact, the FBI only ever got a draft of a report from Crowdstrike, one that had gone through DNC lawyers before ever being handed over. That is not evidence. It would be quite nice to know exactly what the fuck Crowdstrike was up to, especially since the organization had a bunch of puzzling and concerning ties inside the Ukraine. It's also worth noting that the decision to withhold the funds in question was made while there was a Ukranian election going on. Trump ordered a review of how the funding was to be used. And this was done after the Trump administration had gone much farther in the provision of military aid to the Ukraine than the Obama administration. And this comes as the Trump administration in general has been reevaluating aid to all manner of countries, including harassing our NATO allies to actually pony up and pay for shit they are supposed to be paying for. So with a well-established track record of taking a more skeptical approach to foreign aid in general, having already provided significantly more military aid to the Ukraine (including weapons) than the Obama administration, we're expected to see that Trump ordering a review of further aid to the Ukraine while it was unknown as to who, exactly, was going to be leading the Ukranian government is improper. That's quite a stretch. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on... Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS! The best argument that can be mustered to that effect is there was an implication that Trump withheld funds (which apparently the Ukranian government didn't know about until well after the call) and then in some sort of subtext of the phone call there's an unspoken quid-pro-quo. This accusation comes after years of completely fabricated allegations of Russian collusion, and it comes from the same people who continually lied in service to that fabricated narrative. Sold in much the same manner as this one. When you read the transcript, it was the Ukranian president who brought up Rudy Guliani and the investigations. Trump mentioned Crowdstrike...which is a perfectly valid thing to look into because the entire Russian interference hoax is based on Crowstrike's "analysis" of the DNC servers. An "analysis" that was never independently verified. In fact, the FBI only ever got a draft of a report from Crowdstrike, one that had gone through DNC lawyers before ever being handed over. That is not evidence. It would be quite nice to know exactly what the fuck Crowdstrike was up to, especially since the organization had a bunch of puzzling and concerning ties inside the Ukraine. It's also worth noting that the decision to withhold the funds in question was made while there was a Ukranian election going on. Trump ordered a review of how the funding was to be used. And this was done after the Trump administration had gone much farther in the provision of military aid to the Ukraine than the Obama administration. And this comes as the Trump administration in general has been reevaluating aid to all manner of countries, including harassing our NATO allies to actually pony up and pay for shit they are supposed to be paying for. So with a well-established track record of taking a more skeptical approach to foreign aid in general, having already provided significantly more military aid to the Ukraine (including weapons) than the Obama administration, we're expected to see that Trump ordering a review of further aid to the Ukraine while it was unknown as to who, exactly, was going to be leading the Ukranian government is improper. That's quite a stretch. |
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YGBSM. Fucking really? A fucking fantasy in Wolkenkukuksheim is your argument? You need help seriously. If you don't believe in something, you'll fall for anything. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot. View Quote Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed. And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions. Things are not remotely as you are portraying them. |
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot. How long has he been in office? It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it. View Quote And if the intelligence agencies said that to me I would shit my pants because NO DOUBT they could come up with something in my past that would shame me. |
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You are avoiding the simple task of showing us how trump said A, but A actually means B. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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In all that you did not mention one anti-gun legislation he has signed or specific gun he has banned. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot. How long has he been in office? It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, is that a no? Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really? There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country. Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you. How long has he been in office? It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it. This is it. Don't let us down! |
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Trump appoints leaders of those agencies with the advice and consent of the senate. Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed. And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions. Things are not remotely as you are portraying them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot. Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed. And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions. Things are not remotely as you are portraying them. Hell, the GOP had to stop him from appointing a gun control crusader the other day. FFS! He has made piss poor choices and his admin is a dumpster fire as predicted. How many open spots he can't even fill now? There's a reason nobody wants to work for him and it isn't some conspiracy. And Sessions was limited because he was involved in the Russia crap, that is all. He didn't act on anything else and neither has Barr. Barr has pushed for gun control though. |
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot. How long has he been in office? It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, is that a no? Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really? There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country. Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you. How long has he been in office? It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it. |
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Trump appoints leaders of those agencies with the advice and consent of the senate. Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed. And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions. Things are not remotely as you are portraying them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot. Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed. And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions. Things are not remotely as you are portraying them. |
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You fell for the Mueller bullshit and you're falling for this one hugh. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You're ignoring the Ukranian's part of the conversation and the President clearly saying he wanted a favor though. View Quote I've read the transcript multiple times and being a life-long speaker of English I'm aware of how often the term "favor" is used as a nicety rather than a direction. Trump's exact quote on "favor": "I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say, Crowdstrike. I guess you have one of your wealthy people...The server, they say, Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General contact your people and get to the bottom of it." Since we now know, according to even Muller's report, that there was no Russian collusion the question becomes where that allegation came from. And Crowdstrike is at the center of it. It is not the least bit inappropriate for Trump to ask an incoming president to look into that situation and to warn him that some of the same corrupt actors that helped set fire to the political system in the United States might be surrounding him in the Ukraine. That is the "favor" being asked by Trump, and there's nothing remotely illegal or inappropriate about it. |
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Now on that one I can somewhat agree but it might also be that the Deep State "got to those picks" with "do it our way or pay the price". And if the intelligence agencies said that to me I would shit my pants because NO DOUBT they could come up with something in my past that would shame me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot. How long has he been in office? It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it. And if the intelligence agencies said that to me I would shit my pants because NO DOUBT they could come up with something in my past that would shame me. |
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Nahh, I'd rather discuss with someone who isn't bullshitting about reading the full text. View Quote |
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Derp!!!! Discussing the news and current events is not pushing anything. Holy shit... I guess that makes it pretty clear who you are... |
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The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me. You gotta repost. I can't see your quote for some reason. @MannyRibera View Quote The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me. |
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We've all been waiting for the day when you've completely lost it. This is it. Don't let us down! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, is that a no? Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really? There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country. Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you. How long has he been in office? It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it. This is it. Don't let us down! |
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He has made piss poor choices and his admin is a dumpster fire as predicted. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes A fair number of his personnel choices have been suggested by people who are reliably swamp creatures. And Sessions was limited because he was involved in the Russia crap He was accused of having a conversation with a Russian that was completely inconsequential and goaded into recusing himself because of that conversation. And that happened immediately. I suggest you review the record of what happened more carefully. It might help you get down off this silly ledge you're on. |
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No, to be fair, Trump has picked some questionable people who I believe were totally outclassed by those they were up against...….the classic example was Sessions. And...…...possibly Barr. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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