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Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:22:42 AM EST
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It's their damned job to monitor all communications with foreign leaders. Checks and balances. The founders liked them, why don't you?
Don't believe in or trust the founding docs?
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Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:25:14 AM EST
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It's their damned job to monitor all communications with foreign leaders. Checks and balances. The founders liked them, why don't you?
Don't believe in or trust the founding docs?
So, is that a no?

Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really?
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:25:48 AM EST
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on...

Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS!
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The POTUS pretty clearly abused the power of his office though.
Define the action and what makes it an "abuse."  Be clear.....this is important.
He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on...

Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS!
What transcripts?

Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:26:04 AM EST
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on...

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Post the sections please that refer to those items.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:26:48 AM EST
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What transcripts?

Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right.
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The POTUS pretty clearly abused the power of his office though.
Define the action and what makes it an "abuse."  Be clear.....this is important.
He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on...

Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS!
What transcripts?

Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right.
You can't possibly be this unaware and trying to argue this topic...
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:27:05 AM EST
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When did I say any of that? I'll wait here and not hold my breath.

You guys can't argue facts so you just make up bizarre fantasies. It's sad.

I really though "our side" had facts and logic on its side and the dems were the crazy derptards.
Imagine my surprise and disappointment to see even those I respected fall for this bullshit...

BTW, you are aware that the transcripts were released on order of trump, right? The guys an idiot.
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The POTUS pretty clearly abused the power of his office though.
Define the action and what makes it an “abuse.”  Be clear.....this is important.
He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on...

Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS!
Same bullshit as "He said Mexicans are rapists" or "He wants to ban muslims from coming to the US".  Never happened.  You people think you can make shit up and expect others to believe you.
When did I say any of that? I'll wait here and not hold my breath.

You guys can't argue facts so you just make up bizarre fantasies. It's sad.

I really though "our side" had facts and logic on its side and the dems were the crazy derptards.
Imagine my surprise and disappointment to see even those I respected fall for this bullshit...

BTW, you are aware that the transcripts were released on order of trump, right? The guys an idiot.
Do you not understand that people in this thread and myself and half the country read the transcripts and say there is nothing wrong with them.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:28:35 AM EST
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When did I say any of that? I'll wait here and not hold my breath.

You guys can't argue facts so you just make up bizarre fantasies. It's sad.

I really though "our side" had facts and logic on its side and the dems were the crazy derptards.
Imagine my surprise and disappointment to see even those I respected fall for this bullshit...

BTW, you are aware that the transcripts were released on order of trump, right? The guys an idiot.
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From the guy who pushed the "muh Russia" fantasy for 3 years side by side with the left. Now jumping on the "muh Ukraine" wagon when that petered out into nothing is what is truly sad
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:29:40 AM EST
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Post the sections please that refer to those items.
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on...

Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS!
Post the sections please that refer to those items.
You guys weren't even aware of them obviously, LOL!!!!!
Go find and read it yourself. It's on the white house website, smart guy.Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:30:36 AM EST
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Do you not understand that people in this thread and myself and half the country read the transcripts and say there is nothing wrong with them.
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He can't grasp that. CNN said there was something wrong, must be true!!!
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:31:15 AM EST
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From the guy who pushed the "muh Russia" fantasy for 3 years side by side with the left. Now jumping on the "muh Ukraine" wagon when that petered out into nothing is what is truly sad
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When did I say any of that? I'll wait here and not hold my breath.

You guys can't argue facts so you just make up bizarre fantasies. It's sad.

I really though "our side" had facts and logic on its side and the dems were the crazy derptards.
Imagine my surprise and disappointment to see even those I respected fall for this bullshit...

BTW, you are aware that the transcripts were released on order of trump, right? The guys an idiot.
From the guy who pushed the "muh Russia" fantasy for 3 years side by side with the left. Now jumping on the "muh Ukraine" wagon when that petered out into nothing is what is truly sad
Derp!!!!

Discussing the news and current events is not pushing anything.

Holy shit...
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:31:39 AM EST
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What transcripts?

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He is taking a line from Schiff.  He is translating the English that was spoken into English that he wishes that was spoken.  He is telling us common folk that Trump was talking in code and that Schiff has cracked the code.  Furthermore, these people are wrapping Biden's actions up into an "election" and thus making them off limits for "Republican" law enforcement to look into.  All a dem has to do is run for office, and then they can do whatever the fuck they want.....bc it will be "wrong" for anybody but another dem to investigate them.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:32:05 AM EST
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So, is that a no?

Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really?
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It's their damned job to monitor all communications with foreign leaders. Checks and balances. The founders liked them, why don't you?
Don't believe in or trust the founding docs?
So, is that a no?

Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really?
Intelligence agencies collecting intelligence on political leaders (especially the president) and manipulating, "leaking", or "whistleblowing" made up bullshit so the media can manipulate the public with no proof isn't checks and balances. It's also not even close to what our founding fathers envisioned for our government. Far from it actually.

It's treason at best, and a flat out Communist coup at worst.

But trying to get that into your thick skull is like talking to a brick wall. Shit, I'd probably have better luck trying to talk to a brick wall...

Why are you here again anyways if all you do is parrot leftist garbage? To divert any conversation whatsoever that could call into question said garbage?
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:33:08 AM EST
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You can't possibly be this unaware and trying to argue this topic...
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That's rich. Post up the parts showing it homie.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:34:23 AM EST
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You guys weren't even aware of them obviously, LOL!!!!!
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the words and meanings you claim are simply not there.  Everybody has read them.  Furthermore, your team is working very hard to keep Obama admin wrong doing from being investigated.  Whatcha hidin?

Its so "clear cut" to you....you should be able to post all the nefarious sections so we can see them.  But no.....
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:34:44 AM EST
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He is taking a line from Schiff.  He is translating the English that was spoken into English that he wishes that was spoken.  He is telling us common folk that Trump was talking in code and that Schiff has cracked the code.  Furthermore, these people are wrapping Biden's actions up into an "election" and thus making them off limits for "Republican" law enforcement to look into.  All a dem has to do is run for office, and then they can do whatever the fuck they want.....bc it will be "wrong" for anybody but another dem to investigate them.
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What transcripts?

Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right.
He is taking a line from Schiff.  He is translating the English that was spoken into English that he wishes that was spoken.  He is telling us common folk that Trump was talking in code and that Schiff has cracked the code.  Furthermore, these people are wrapping Biden's actions up into an "election" and thus making them off limits for "Republican" law enforcement to look into.  All a dem has to do is run for office, and then they can do whatever the fuck they want.....bc it will be "wrong" for anybody but another dem to investigate them.
The word though laughs at your fantasy...

Denying the clear meaning of a conversation in very clear English is the new play? LOL!!!
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:34:53 AM EST
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You guys weren't even aware of them obviously, LOL!!!!!
Go find and read it yourself. It's on the white house website, smart guy.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59063/Girls_jpg-1108783.JPG
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on...

Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS!
Post the sections please that refer to those items.
You guys weren't even aware of them obviously, LOL!!!!!
Go find and read it yourself. It's on the white house website, smart guy.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59063/Girls_jpg-1108783.JPG
Nah, watching you make a fool of yourself and going complete batshit crazy over a nothing burger is far more entertaining.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:35:29 AM EST
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So, is that a no?

Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really?
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The intelligence agencies have been corrupted into acting to protect the powerful in this country above all else.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country.

Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:35:37 AM EST
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Intelligence agencies collecting intelligence on political leaders (especially the president) and manipulating, "leaking", or "whistleblowing" made up bullshit so the media can manipulate the public with no proof isn't checks and balances. It's also not even close to what our founding fathers envisioned for our government. Far from it actually.

It's treason at best, and a flat out Communist coup at worst.

But trying to get that into your thick skull is like talking to a brick wall. Shit, I'd probably have better luck trying to talk to a brick wall...

Why are you here again anyways if all you do is parrot leftist garbage? To divert any conversation whatsoever that could call into question said garbage?
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It's their damned job to monitor all communications with foreign leaders. Checks and balances. The founders liked them, why don't you?
Don't believe in or trust the founding docs?
So, is that a no?

Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really?
Intelligence agencies collecting intelligence on political leaders (especially the president) and manipulating, "leaking", or "whistleblowing" made up bullshit so the media can manipulate the public with no proof isn't checks and balances. It's also not even close to what our founding fathers envisioned for our government. Far from it actually.

It's treason at best, and a flat out Communist coup at worst.

But trying to get that into your thick skull is like talking to a brick wall. Shit, I'd probably have better luck trying to talk to a brick wall...

Why are you here again anyways if all you do is parrot leftist garbage? To divert any conversation whatsoever that could call into question said garbage?
Another fantasy. Jesus lay off the Hannity...
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:36:01 AM EST
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Derp!!!!

Discussing the news and current events is not pushing anything.

Holy shit...
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When did I say any of that? I'll wait here and not hold my breath.

You guys can't argue facts so you just make up bizarre fantasies. It's sad.

I really though "our side" had facts and logic on its side and the dems were the crazy derptards.
Imagine my surprise and disappointment to see even those I respected fall for this bullshit...

BTW, you are aware that the transcripts were released on order of trump, right? The guys an idiot.
From the guy who pushed the "muh Russia" fantasy for 3 years side by side with the left. Now jumping on the "muh Ukraine" wagon when that petered out into nothing is what is truly sad
Derp!!!!

Discussing the news and current events is not pushing anything.

Holy shit...
Mmm when you parrot the exact garbage from CNN and provide zero proof (hey just like the left in this case!).... then yeah... it is pushing something..
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:36:22 AM EST
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the words and meanings you claim are simply not there.  Everybody has read them.  Furthermore, your team is working very hard to keep Obama admin wrong doing from being investigated.  Whatcha hidin?

Its so "clear cut" to you....you should be able to post all the nefarious sections so we can see them.  But no.....
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You guys weren't even aware of them obviously, LOL!!!!!
the words and meanings you claim are simply not there.  Everybody has read them.  Furthermore, your team is working very hard to keep Obama admin wrong doing from being investigated.  Whatcha hidin?

Its so "clear cut" to you....you should be able to post all the nefarious sections so we can see them.  But no.....
Sure, you've read them, yup...
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:37:10 AM EST
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The word though laughs at your fantasy...

Denying the clear meaning of a conversation in very clear English is the new play? LOL!!!
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Post the sections with nefarious language.  Please.  And be specific as to the actual meaning of what was said.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:38:02 AM EST
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He is taking a line from Schiff.  He is translating the English that was spoken into English that he wishes that was spoken.  He is telling us common folk that Trump was talking in code and that Schiff has cracked the code.  Furthermore, these people are wrapping Biden's actions up into an "election" and thus making them off limits for "Republican" law enforcement to look into.  All a dem has to do is run for office, and then they can do whatever the fuck they want.....bc it will be "wrong" for anybody but another dem to investigate them.
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What transcripts?

Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right.
He is taking a line from Schiff.  He is translating the English that was spoken into English that he wishes that was spoken.  He is telling us common folk that Trump was talking in code and that Schiff has cracked the code.  Furthermore, these people are wrapping Biden's actions up into an "election" and thus making them off limits for "Republican" law enforcement to look into.  All a dem has to do is run for office, and then they can do whatever the fuck they want.....bc it will be "wrong" for anybody but another dem to investigate them.
Yup. This is how they look to normal folk who have half a brain cell.

Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:38:31 AM EST
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The intelligence agencies have been corrupted into acting to protect the powerful in this country above all else.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country.

Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you.
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So, is that a no?

Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really?
The intelligence agencies have been corrupted into acting to protect the powerful in this country above all else.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country.

Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you.
trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot.
How long has he been in office?

It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:39:22 AM EST
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The word though laughs at your fantasy...

Denying the clear meaning of a conversation in very clear English is the new play? LOL!!!
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What transcripts?

Oh, the imaginary ones in your talking points. Thats right.
He is taking a line from Schiff.  He is translating the English that was spoken into English that he wishes that was spoken.  He is telling us common folk that Trump was talking in code and that Schiff has cracked the code.  Furthermore, these people are wrapping Biden's actions up into an "election" and thus making them off limits for "Republican" law enforcement to look into.  All a dem has to do is run for office, and then they can do whatever the fuck they want.....bc it will be "wrong" for anybody but another dem to investigate them.
The word though laughs at your fantasy...

Denying the clear meaning of a conversation in very clear English is the new play? LOL!!!
Post up the parts you're talking about.

We'll wait.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:40:08 AM EST
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You are avoiding the simple task of showing us how trump said A, but A actually means B.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:40:14 AM EST
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There is a transcript...but, crucially, that transcript does not actually say what you have alleged.

The best argument that can be mustered to that effect is there was an implication that Trump withheld funds (which apparently the Ukranian government didn't know about until well after the call) and then in some sort of subtext of the phone call there's an unspoken quid-pro-quo.

This accusation comes after years of completely fabricated allegations of Russian collusion, and it comes from the same people who continually lied in service to that fabricated narrative. Sold in much the same manner as this one.

When you read the transcript, it was the Ukranian president who brought up Rudy Guliani and the investigations. Trump mentioned Crowdstrike...which is a perfectly valid thing to look into because the entire Russian interference hoax is based on Crowstrike's "analysis" of the DNC servers. An "analysis" that was never independently verified. In fact, the FBI only ever got a draft of a report from Crowdstrike, one that had gone through DNC lawyers before ever being handed over. That is not evidence. It would be quite nice to know exactly what the fuck Crowdstrike was up to, especially since the organization had a bunch of puzzling and concerning ties inside the Ukraine.

It's also worth noting that the decision to withhold the funds in question was made while there was a Ukranian election going on.

Trump ordered a review of how the funding was to be used. And this was done after the Trump administration had gone much farther in the provision of military aid to the Ukraine than the Obama administration.

And this comes as the Trump administration in general has been reevaluating aid to all manner of countries, including harassing our NATO allies to actually pony up and pay for shit they are supposed to be paying for.

So with a well-established track record of taking a more skeptical approach to foreign aid in general, having already provided significantly more military aid to the Ukraine (including weapons) than the Obama administration, we're expected to see that Trump ordering a review of further aid to the Ukraine while it was unknown as to who, exactly, was going to be leading the Ukranian government is improper.

That's quite a stretch.
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He's extorting another country into interfering in our elections for one. And soliciting something of value for his election campaign from a foreign country for two. Holding funds appropriated by congress for a favor. I could go on...

Jesus, there are transcripts, FFS!
There is a transcript...but, crucially, that transcript does not actually say what you have alleged.

The best argument that can be mustered to that effect is there was an implication that Trump withheld funds (which apparently the Ukranian government didn't know about until well after the call) and then in some sort of subtext of the phone call there's an unspoken quid-pro-quo.

This accusation comes after years of completely fabricated allegations of Russian collusion, and it comes from the same people who continually lied in service to that fabricated narrative. Sold in much the same manner as this one.

When you read the transcript, it was the Ukranian president who brought up Rudy Guliani and the investigations. Trump mentioned Crowdstrike...which is a perfectly valid thing to look into because the entire Russian interference hoax is based on Crowstrike's "analysis" of the DNC servers. An "analysis" that was never independently verified. In fact, the FBI only ever got a draft of a report from Crowdstrike, one that had gone through DNC lawyers before ever being handed over. That is not evidence. It would be quite nice to know exactly what the fuck Crowdstrike was up to, especially since the organization had a bunch of puzzling and concerning ties inside the Ukraine.

It's also worth noting that the decision to withhold the funds in question was made while there was a Ukranian election going on.

Trump ordered a review of how the funding was to be used. And this was done after the Trump administration had gone much farther in the provision of military aid to the Ukraine than the Obama administration.

And this comes as the Trump administration in general has been reevaluating aid to all manner of countries, including harassing our NATO allies to actually pony up and pay for shit they are supposed to be paying for.

So with a well-established track record of taking a more skeptical approach to foreign aid in general, having already provided significantly more military aid to the Ukraine (including weapons) than the Obama administration, we're expected to see that Trump ordering a review of further aid to the Ukraine while it was unknown as to who, exactly, was going to be leading the Ukranian government is improper.

That's quite a stretch.
You're ignoring the Ukranian's part of the conversation and the President clearly saying he wanted a favor though.
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YGBSM. Fucking really?

A fucking fantasy in Wolkenkukuksheim is your argument? You need help seriously.
If you don't believe in something, you'll fall for anything.
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Way to not pay attention.

blah, blah, blah...
In all that you did not mention one anti-gun legislation he has signed or specific gun he has banned.
YGBSM. Fucking really?

A fucking fantasy in Wolkenkukuksheim is your argument? You need help seriously.
If you don't believe in something, you'll fall for anything.
You fell for the Mueller bullshit and you're falling for this one hugh.
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Sure, you've read them, yup...
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Sure, you've read them, yup...
Is this the quote you are having a fantasy about?
The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot.
How long has he been in office?

It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it.
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Now on that one I can somewhat agree but it might also be that the Deep State "got to those picks" with "do it our way or pay the price".

And if the intelligence agencies said that to me I would shit my pants because NO DOUBT they could come up with something in my past that would shame me.
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You are avoiding the simple task of showing us how trump said A, but A actually means B.
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Sure, you've read them, yup...
You are avoiding the simple task of showing us how trump said A, but A actually means B.
Nahh, I'd rather discuss with someone who isn't bullshitting about reading the full text.
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Derp!!!!

Discussing the news and current events is not pushing anything.

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When your talking points mirror Jim Acosta's and Rachel Maddow's....we can all see what your pushing
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In all that you did not mention one anti-gun legislation he has signed or specific gun he has banned.
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Way to not pay attention.

blah, blah, blah...
In all that you did not mention one anti-gun legislation he has signed or specific gun he has banned.
I mean if you’re so myopic to think the only things that hurt 2A freedoms are actually signed laws or bans than you be you.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:42:17 AM EST
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot.
How long has he been in office?

It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it.
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So, is that a no?

Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really?
The intelligence agencies have been corrupted into acting to protect the powerful in this country above all else.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country.

Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you.
trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot.
How long has he been in office?

It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it.
We've all been waiting for the day when you've completely lost it.

This is it. Don't let us down!
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:42:29 AM EST
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Trump appoints leaders of those agencies with the advice and consent of the senate.

Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed.

And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions.

Things are not remotely as you are portraying them.
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No, to be fair, Trump has picked some questionable people who I believe were totally outclassed by those they were up against...….the classic example was Sessions.

And...…...possibly Barr.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:44:11 AM EST
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Trump appoints leaders of those agencies with the advice and consent of the senate.

Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed.

And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions.

Things are not remotely as you are portraying them.
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot.
Trump appoints leaders of those agencies with the advice and consent of the senate.

Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed.

And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions.

Things are not remotely as you are portraying them.
So, the dems also control the senate? Since when?
Hell, the GOP had to stop him from appointing a gun control crusader the other day. FFS!

He has made piss poor choices and his admin is a dumpster fire as predicted. How many open spots he can't even fill now?

There's a reason nobody wants to work for him and it isn't some conspiracy.

And Sessions was limited because he was involved in the Russia crap, that is all. He didn't act on anything else and neither has Barr.

Barr has pushed for gun control though.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:45:08 AM EST
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot.
How long has he been in office?

It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it.
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So, is that a no?

Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really?
The intelligence agencies have been corrupted into acting to protect the powerful in this country above all else.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country.

Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you.
trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot.
How long has he been in office?

It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it.
You think elected officials and political appointments matter to the unelected bureaucrats of the swamp?

Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:46:52 AM EST
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Trump appoints leaders of those agencies with the advice and consent of the senate.

Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed.

And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions.

Things are not remotely as you are portraying them.
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot.
Trump appoints leaders of those agencies with the advice and consent of the senate.

Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed.

And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions.

Things are not remotely as you are portraying them.
Going back to when his people were in charge, there were fewer limitations
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:47:23 AM EST
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You fell for the Mueller bullshit and you're falling for this one hugh.
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Way to not pay attention.

blah, blah, blah...
In all that you did not mention one anti-gun legislation he has signed or specific gun he has banned.
YGBSM. Fucking really?

A fucking fantasy in Wolkenkukuksheim is your argument? You need help seriously.
If you don't believe in something, you'll fall for anything.
You fell for the Mueller bullshit and you're falling for this one hugh.
No, I paid attention to the Mueller investigation because I like to stay informed on world events. I'm still doing that.

Ignorance is bliss I hear though...
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:48:43 AM EST
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Is this the quote you are having a fantasy about?
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Sure, you've read them, yup...
Is this the quote you are having a fantasy about?
The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.
You gotta repost. I can't see your quote for some reason.

@MannyRibera
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:48:52 AM EST
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Now on that one I can somewhat agree but it might also be that the Deep State "got to those picks" with "do it our way or pay the price".

And if the intelligence agencies said that to me I would shit my pants because NO DOUBT they could come up with something in my past that would shame me.
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trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot.
How long has he been in office?

It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it.
Now on that one I can somewhat agree but it might also be that the Deep State "got to those picks" with "do it our way or pay the price".

And if the intelligence agencies said that to me I would shit my pants because NO DOUBT they could come up with something in my past that would shame me.
Occam's razor man...
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:49:38 AM EST
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Nahh, I'd rather discuss with someone who isn't bullshitting about reading the full text.
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LOL.  This is your whole argument: "You read the transcript didn't you?"  Yes.  "So its obvious that Trump was speaking in code and actually threatening and bribing the Ukraine pres."  No, he didn't do any of that.  He simply asked if they would complete the law enforcement tasks that were ended prematurely and under questionable pretenses.  "No!  You didnt read it!"
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:50:21 AM EST
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When your talking points mirror Jim Acosta's and Rachel Maddow's....we can all see what your pushing
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Derp!!!!

Discussing the news and current events is not pushing anything.

Holy shit...
When your talking points mirror Jim Acosta's and Rachel Maddow's....we can all see what your pushing
You must be watching them I guess. I don't.

I guess that makes it pretty clear who you are...
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:51:40 AM EST
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The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.

You gotta repost. I can't see your quote for some reason.

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The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:53:01 AM EST
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We've all been waiting for the day when you've completely lost it.

This is it. Don't let us down!
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So, is that a no?

Follow the constitution and the laws except for the orange one? Really?
The intelligence agencies have been corrupted into acting to protect the powerful in this country above all else.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a president asking a foreign leader to cooperate with an investigation involving criminal activity between a then vice president, his son and that foreign country.

Our intelligence agencies have so clearly been compromised and are being used for nefarious political purposes that if you don't see that by now I am at a loss as to how to explain it to you.
trump appoints the leaders of those agencies, if they are still fucked it's because he is an idiot.
How long has he been in office?

It's a fantasy being peddled by a serial bullshitter who got caught and you're buying it.
We've all been waiting for the day when you've completely lost it.

This is it. Don't let us down!
Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:53:04 AM EST
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No, I paid attention to the Mueller investigation because I like to stay informed on world events. I'm still doing that.

Ignorance is bliss I hear though...
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You fell for lies and pushed bullshit because you wanted to believe it.

It's clear where you stay "informed" from.
Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:54:37 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/1/2019 8:54:47 AM EST
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No, to be fair, Trump has picked some questionable people who I believe were totally outclassed by those they were up against...….the classic example was Sessions.

And...…...possibly Barr.
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Trump appoints leaders of those agencies with the advice and consent of the senate.

Trump has to appoint people that will be confirmed.

And even those appointees have limited power. Just look at Jeff Sessions.

Things are not remotely as you are portraying them.
No, to be fair, Trump has picked some questionable people who I believe were totally outclassed by those they were up against...….the classic example was Sessions.

And...…...possibly Barr.
Barr outclassed? He is a founding member of the modern swamp! LOL!!!!

And Sessions was a damn fine conservative senator that Trump ruined and then fumbled the endorsement for his seat!
Short memories here...
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