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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:09:01 PM EST
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Then setup camps in the south. Shut down the city (it will be shut down anyways if it gets shelled). Evacuate everyone to the southern portion and then light up North Korea. Yeah it will cost a lot and take a lot of logistics, but that's the cost of reducing the risk so we can eliminate NK. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is one helluva reckless gamble with one million lives, including at least 28,000 Americans. Our national strategic actions rarely include such bets. Once that is done - what is your plan for who will administer NK? What is your Marshall Plan for NK? Who is going to pay the staggering cost to feed 20 million starving North Koreans afterwards? For many years. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:10:02 PM EST
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And after the U.S. unilaterally "lights up" NK - who is going in to NK to clear it out and clean it up. Once that is done - what is your plan for who will administer NK? What is your Marshall Plan for NK? Who is going to pay the staggering cost to feed 20 million starving North Koreans afterwards? For many years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is one helluva reckless gamble with one million lives, including at least 28,000 Americans. Our national strategic actions rarely include such bets. Once that is done - what is your plan for who will administer NK? What is your Marshall Plan for NK? Who is going to pay the staggering cost to feed 20 million starving North Koreans afterwards? For many years. We shouldn't nation build Go in Take care of business Leave Let sk worry about any survivors if there happen to be any |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:12:23 PM EST
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My plan 4 S. Koreans? (Kia AND Hyundai) Oh yeah. Fuck S. Koreans. They are swarthy little yellow slant eyes? I don't trust them... as far as I can throw them. 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:13:44 PM EST
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Not our problem We don't need to nation build Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is one helluva reckless gamble with one million lives, including at least 28,000 Americans. Our national strategic actions rarely include such bets. Once that is done - what is your plan for who will administer NK? What is your Marshall Plan for NK? Who is going to pay the staggering cost to feed 20 million starving North Koreans afterwards? For many years. We don't need to nation build |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:14:54 PM EST
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Sure. That sounds good. Reality can be far more involving once the party (that many imagine)....is over. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is one helluva reckless gamble with one million lives, including at least 28,000 Americans. Our national strategic actions rarely include such bets. Once that is done - what is your plan for who will administer NK? What is your Marshall Plan for NK? Who is going to pay the staggering cost to feed 20 million starving North Koreans afterwards? For many years. We don't need to nation build It shouldn't be involving at all I don't believe in nation building |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:15:13 PM EST
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Clean up what? Like two cities? Starving Norks? As if that was a new condition that we would could even make worse. Hell, the farmers would be able to eat their own crops instead of giving all to the military. The agriculture industry would turn that country into the world's largest trade show as they attempt to get contracts and sales in virgin territory.
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:15:17 PM EST
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Then setup camps in the south. Shut down the city (it will be shut down anyways if it gets shelled). Evacuate everyone to the southern portion and then light up North Korea. Yeah it will cost a lot and take a lot of logistics, but that's the cost of reducing the risk so we can eliminate NK. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is one helluva reckless gamble with one million lives, including at least 28,000 Americans. Our national strategic actions rarely include such bets. Really the only option seems to be a massive preemptive strike on the NORK Arty aimed south to minimize the damage to the South Korean populace and our personnel stationed there. Maybe Nuke, maybe persistent chemical, maybe both. Nuking and Slimeing the NORKs while accepting significant casualties in the South and in our forces or let Lil Kim and Iran have Nukes. Shit sandwich with no good options. Thanks Obummer and friends. 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:17:25 PM EST
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Never been to the movies? Hollywood can fake anything, including earthquakes and especially the evidence one happened where nobody was there to actually validate it. Look at this graph - see it shows something! This is all about as believeable as colin powells speech on mobile chemical weapons laboritories and imminent mushroom clouds in continental US. Yet the mentally weak and doped up fucksticks can't see or are too stupid to care they are being lied to again and again and again and again and again..... |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:20:59 PM EST
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Not really It shouldn't be involving at all I don't believe in nation building Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is one helluva reckless gamble with one million lives, including at least 28,000 Americans. Our national strategic actions rarely include such bets. Once that is done - what is your plan for who will administer NK? What is your Marshall Plan for NK? Who is going to pay the staggering cost to feed 20 million starving North Koreans afterwards? For many years. We don't need to nation build It shouldn't be involving at all I don't believe in nation building Its not as simple as walking away once the smoke clears. It never has been. See Marshall Plan. Also see Iraq, Afghanistan et al. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:22:05 PM EST
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Then setup camps in the south. Shut down the city (it will be shut down anyways if it gets shelled). Evacuate everyone to the southern portion and then light up North Korea. Yeah it will cost a lot and take a lot of logistics, but that's the cost of reducing the risk so we can eliminate NK. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:24:47 PM EST
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Well, the EAMs are sure being broadcast tonight. Two of them were 'all stations' EAMs, but so far no 'Skyking' messages.
On a happier note, another 'M class' solar flare is headed our way, the earthquake swarm in Idaho is still buzzing, a Cat 4 hurricane is headed for south Florida-man land, Los Angeles is on fire, Hitley is still free, the EBT cards haven't been replenished yet, Arfcom went down today...and I have to go piss. 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:25:05 PM EST
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Thats fine. But I'm guessing that you don't develop national policy - or haven't worked close to that area in the past. Its not as simple as walking away once the smoke clears. It never has been. See Marshall Plan. Also see Iraq, Afghanistan et al. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is one helluva reckless gamble with one million lives, including at least 28,000 Americans. Our national strategic actions rarely include such bets. Once that is done - what is your plan for who will administer NK? What is your Marshall Plan for NK? Who is going to pay the staggering cost to feed 20 million starving North Koreans afterwards? For many years. We don't need to nation build It shouldn't be involving at all I don't believe in nation building Its not as simple as walking away once the smoke clears. It never has been. See Marshall Plan. Also see Iraq, Afghanistan et al. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:28:07 PM EST
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And how has that worked out for us? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is one helluva reckless gamble with one million lives, including at least 28,000 Americans. Our national strategic actions rarely include such bets. Once that is done - what is your plan for who will administer NK? What is your Marshall Plan for NK? Who is going to pay the staggering cost to feed 20 million starving North Koreans afterwards? For many years. We don't need to nation build It shouldn't be involving at all I don't believe in nation building Its not as simple as walking away once the smoke clears. It never has been. See Marshall Plan. Also see Iraq, Afghanistan et al. "Everyone wants to go the party. No-one wants to stay and clean up." |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:28:57 PM EST
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Full fucking retard right there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never been to the movies? Hollywood can fake anything, including earthquakes and especially the evidence one happened where nobody was there to actually validate it. Look at this graph - see it shows something! This is all about as believeable as colin powells speech on mobile chemical weapons laboritories and imminent mushroom clouds in continental US. Yet the mentally weak and doped up fucksticks can't see or are too stupid to care they are being lied to again and again and again and again and again..... |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:29:08 PM EST
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Where do you evac to in south Korea that the NK can't hit with a nuke? Just getting out of Seoul doesn't solve that many problems.
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:30:55 PM EST
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I think there's plenty of countries like France and Germany that will help with the refugees.
If Kim wants to preemptively strike an evacuating city then he gets to ask himself if it feels like a good day to die. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:31:21 PM EST
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Well, the EAMs are sure being broadcast tonight. Two of them were 'all stations' EAMs, but so far no 'Skyking' messages. On a happier note, another 'M class' solar flare is headed our way, the earthquake swarm in Idaho is still buzzing, a Cat 4 hurricane is headed for south Florida-man land, Los Angeles is on fire, Hitley is still free, the EBT cards haven't been replenished yet, Arfcom went down today...and I have to go piss. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:32:11 PM EST
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Where do you evac to in south Korea that the NK can't hit with a nuke? Just getting out of Seoul doesn't solve that many problems. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:33:20 PM EST
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I think there's plenty of countries like France and Germany that will help with the refugees. If Kim wants to preemptively strike an evacuating city then he gets to ask himself if it feels like a good day to die. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:33:36 PM EST
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I think you and I have the same sense of optimism. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, the EAMs are sure being broadcast tonight. Two of them were 'all stations' EAMs, but so far no 'Skyking' messages. On a happier note, another 'M class' solar flare is headed our way, the earthquake swarm in Idaho is still buzzing, a Cat 4 hurricane is headed for south Florida-man land, Los Angeles is on fire, Hitley is still free, the EBT cards haven't been replenished yet, Arfcom went down today...and I have to go piss.  
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:34:17 PM EST
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Someone posted a photo of the range of the artillery/mortars in the other thread. They would have to head far south. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:34:43 PM EST
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I think there's plenty of countries like France and Germany that will help with the refugees. If Kim wants to preemptively strike an evacuating city then he gets to ask himself if it feels like a good day to die. Rib eye steaks or lots and lots of JDAMS? Do you really think France and Germany are sending anyone to Seoul? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:34:56 PM EST
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If you were fat boy & co. and you saw them actually evacuating you would know that you were already fucked. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:35:20 PM EST
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Well, the EAMs are sure being broadcast tonight. Two of them were 'all stations' EAMs, but so far no 'Skyking' messages. On a happier note, another 'M class' solar flare is headed our way, the earthquake swarm in Idaho is still buzzing, a Cat 4 hurricane is headed for south Florida-man land, Los Angeles is on fire, Hitley is still free, the EBT cards haven't been replenished yet, Arfcom went down today...and I have to go piss. 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:36:30 PM EST
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Well then everyone will know he drew first blood, making him a justified kill. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:37:23 PM EST
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Well, the EAMs are sure being broadcast tonight. Two of them were 'all stations' EAMs, but so far no 'Skyking' messages. On a happier note, another 'M class' solar flare is headed our way, the earthquake swarm in Idaho is still buzzing, a Cat 4 hurricane is headed for south Florida-man land, Los Angeles is on fire, Hitley is still free, the EBT cards haven't been replenished yet, Arfcom went down today...and I have to go piss.  Airplane 2 - "Out of Coffee" scene |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:40:27 PM EST
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Well then everyone will know he drew first blood, making him a justified kill. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:40:50 PM EST
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I think there are two options. Do nothing or nothing to great effect and let Kim perfect his missiles and nukes so that he can hit anywhere on the globe or be creative and take some risk to squash the problem now.
Do we want a crazy dictator run country to have the ability to nuke any place on earth and to sell nukes to our enemies? If we can live with that then we should do absolutely nothing. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:43:11 PM EST
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Another 'all stations' EAM just finished.
I hearing 'this is Eruption' as the EAM broadcaster's call sign, now calling 'Cornsnow'. "Cornsnow, Cornsnow, this is Eruption, over" |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:44:53 PM EST
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If they are evacing that city then everyone knows we have made our decision. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well then everyone will know he drew first blood, making him a justified kill. We didn't strike first so I don't see the problem |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:45:10 PM EST
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You forgot that most of the mountain states are on fire as well,coupled with drought conditions it sounds near biblical,all we need is some pestilence thrown in  
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:45:35 PM EST
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Another 'all stations' EAM just finished. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:47:12 PM EST
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I think there are two options. Do nothing or nothing to great effect and let Kim perfect his missiles and nukes so that he can hit anywhere on the globe or be creative and take some risk to squash the problem now. Do we want a crazy dictator run country to have the ability to nuke any place on earth and to sell nukes to our enemies? If we can live with that then we should do absolutely nothing. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:47:28 PM EST
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You forgot that most of the mountain states are on fire as well,coupled with drought conditions it sounds near biblical,all we need is some pestilence thrown in
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:47:28 PM EST
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I don't think that Kim Jong Un want's to provoke Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What if the next one has a 200kt warhead that detonates at the end of flight? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:47:30 PM EST
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And that's why we are where we are today I pray that they are currently being MOVED...secretly. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:48:29 PM EST
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What is that? Now hearing, "Cornsnow, Cornsnow, this is Eruption, over..." |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:50:35 PM EST
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Military Emergency Action Message. You think they're preparing for a strike of some sort? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:50:52 PM EST
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Drumpf will do nothing. Sad! |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:51:03 PM EST
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Military Emergency Action Message. Now hearing, "Cornsnow, Cornsnow, this is Eruption, over..." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is that? Now hearing, "Cornsnow, Cornsnow, this is Eruption, over..." |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:51:28 PM EST
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Oh well, he brought this upon himself We didn't strike first so I don't see the problem Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well then everyone will know he drew first blood, making him a justified kill. We didn't strike first so I don't see the problem Like everyone else they know what will happen. Evacuation is not even remotely on the table. Preemptive Strike or Nuke armed NORKs and Iran. Them's the choices. Shit Sandwich.
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:51:50 PM EST
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I think there are two options. Do nothing or nothing to great effect and let Kim perfect his missiles and nukes so that he can hit anywhere on the globe or be creative and take some risk to squash the problem now. Do we want a crazy dictator run country to have the ability to nuke any place on earth and to sell nukes to our enemies? If we can live with that then we should do absolutely nothing.
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:55:57 PM EST
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Worse yet, he has the nukes small enough, eventually some terrorist are going to end up with one and walk it across our southern border and use it in one of our biggest cities..DC or NY would be my best guess..this needs to be stopped now...or every shithole dictator and terrorist group on the planet is going to have nukes and use them.... I should pretend to care? If DC or NY is turned to glass?
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:56:22 PM EST
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:56:24 PM EST
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So, what's the big worry? You think they're preparing for a strike of some sort?
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:56:28 PM EST
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I thought they were impoverished. Where do they get the money to waste launching all these expensive rockets? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:56:49 PM EST
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I ASSURE you. 28K is the ONLY consideration. I pray that they are currently being MOVED...secretly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And that's why we are where we are today I pray that they are currently being MOVED...secretly. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:57:10 PM EST
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:59:06 PM EST
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Someone posted a photo of the range of the artillery/mortars in the other thread. They would have to head far south. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where do you evac to in south Korea that the NK can't hit with a nuke? Just getting out of Seoul doesn't solve that many problems. 142 km (90miles) from Yeoncheon to Cheonan I was reading elsewhere that the Norks can put out between 300,000 to 500,000 artillery rounds a minute in the 1st hour ( thats 5k shell's incoming at a high ) . Just for reference again 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:59:10 PM EST
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So the remaining 200,000 Americans in South Korea aren't a factor? 
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