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Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:38:07 AM EST
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I'm fairly certain I could. I'm very physically fit, I'm extremely comfortable with water, already scuba dive, etc.



I'd love to try, just to see.
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So when is your ship date?
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:38:23 AM EST
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There are some people who could  never pass BUDS due their intolerance to cold. You need a body type that has evolved to tolerate cold. That is one reason they are mostly people who's ancestors came from northern climates.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:38:47 AM EST
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I was a Corpsman and would rather be around some MARSOC/Recon Marines any day than SEALs.
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As a Marine I support this
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:40:01 AM EST
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Maybe in my prime, nowdays? Not a chance...
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:40:22 AM EST
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If given 18 months to prepare, could you pass BUD/S?
...snip... To make it more interesting and to include more of you; also assume you are in your twenties...let’s call it 24. I am interested to see if you believe you have the character and traits it takes to have prepared for it in 18 months and then handled the physical and mental aspects of BUD/S.
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At 24 yrs. old, I wouldn't have needed 18 months.  I would need the desire to become a SEAL, which is part of the mental aspect, which is the grinder for everyone.  Behind that, as MadMike also discussed, is unforeseen injury.  

I'd be more interested in seeing the pass rate for BUD/S candidates with non-Navy prior service.  Of the 3 I worked with, 2 went to the Teams (same background as me), the 1 that didn't got dropped 2x for medical (not the same background/community in the USMC).  

So in that light, I kind of like my odds when I was 24 yrs. old, if I had wanted to be a SEAL.  But considering I never did desire that, it's kind of a self-masturbating "what if" scenario, now isn't it?
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:40:40 AM EST
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Is there a Bud Light?
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:41:02 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:41:49 AM EST
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I could pass army basic without any training. But buds would require me to go back in time atleast a decade.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:43:15 AM EST
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Unless something in my life changes drastically (it'd have to be for the worse, so I hope it doesn't) never.

I'm married and just had a baby. No way I could leave my daughter. I'd miss her every second.


However, I do regret not joining. My whole family served, the males at least. I was in the DEP for the marines in high school. Took the asvab, did meps, was just waiting to graduate. I met my (future) wife and didn't go, though.

Probably my only real life regret. Not only did I not achieve something I dreamed of every day as a kid, I broke the tradition of every male serving in my family.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:43:59 AM EST
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Not saying BUDS is a total walk in the park, but one has to take a broader view of the statistics to find an underlying causality there.  Look at the pool the Navy is pulling from.  Not a diss against the Navy, but they are not pulling from people who have an infantry background at all.  That's a major point other services focus on when criticizing the SEALS in general.  The vast majority of people going to BUDS in the Navy have never really been in that sort of environment before, whereas when you look at the specops units schools/indocs for say the Army or Marine Corps, they have.  You don't get to even show up at those schools if you haven't had the required background humping rucks, PTing a lot, doing generally uncomfortable shitty things, etc.  In the Navy, not so much.  People in BUDS are learning infantry type shit for the very first time.

That skews those pass/fail statistics a ton.  So it isn't that BUDS is the hardest school on earth, it's a really hard school with perhaps the least prepared applicant pool of the big time special special schools.
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having worked with a wide variaty of SOC units in the past I feel as though this post is extremely accurate
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:44:28 AM EST
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I was a Corpsman and would rather be around some MARSOC/Recon Marines any day than SEALs.
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There is that aspect too.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:46:12 AM EST
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I imagine it's just as much mental as physical. No desire to be a SEAL, so nope.
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This is the only thing that would make me fail... if I "want" it, I can be as mentally tough as is needed.

I have zero desire to be a SEAL so... but, throw a few $mil in as the "prize" for passing and that money is as good as mine
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:47:37 AM EST
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I'm in my 30's and believe I could do it with less than 8 months prep under the scenario you put forth.
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When is your ship date?
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:50:15 AM EST
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I'm against torture.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:52:04 AM EST
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I voted yes. Especially if I'm in my early 20's and single, no family or life commitments, etc. I seriously considered going that route, but the wife convinced me not to.
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What was it like?

Any pointers for the young guys?
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:54:46 AM EST
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I'd be more interested in seeing the pass rate for BUD/S candidates with non-Navy prior service.  Of the 3 I worked with, 2 went to the Teams (same background as me), the 1 that didn't got dropped 2x for medical (not the same background/community in the USMC).  
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I have no doubt whatsoever that if you plucked BUDS out of the Navy and dropped it into the Army or Marine Corps, their selection and graduation rates would skyrocket.  And again, that's not to say that as a school it's easy cheesy, it's just that is naturally what would happen if you suddenly made the school accessible to a much more prepared and qualified applicant pool with a background better suited to that sort of environment.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:54:53 AM EST
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No, not even if I was 20 again. I don't think I could hack it physically or mentally.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:56:08 AM EST
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Unless something in my life changes drastically (it'd have to be for the worse, so I hope it doesn't) never.

I'm married and just had a baby. No way I could leave my daughter. I'd miss her every second.


However, I do regret not joining. My whole family served, the males at least. I was in the DEP for the marines in high school. Took the asvab, did meps, was just waiting to graduate. I met my (future) wife and didn't go, though.

Probably my only real life regret. Not only did I not achieve something I dreamed of every day as a kid, I broke the tradition of every male serving in my family.
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So when is your ship date?
Unless something in my life changes drastically (it'd have to be for the worse, so I hope it doesn't) never.

I'm married and just had a baby. No way I could leave my daughter. I'd miss her every second.


However, I do regret not joining. My whole family served, the males at least. I was in the DEP for the marines in high school. Took the asvab, did meps, was just waiting to graduate. I met my (future) wife and didn't go, though.

Probably my only real life regret. Not only did I not achieve something I dreamed of every day as a kid, I broke the tradition of every male serving in my family.
So no then
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 11:58:07 AM EST
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Physically, 18 mos is a long time to train up. Still no due to old injuries.

Mentally, I don't think I'd ever want to be a SEAL bad enough to endure all that.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:01:41 PM EST
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So no then
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Lol you seem personally offended that anyone could be physically and mentally tough, and not be in the military.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:01:42 PM EST
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My stepdad was a seal.  He’s crazy
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:02:17 PM EST
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So in that light, I kind of like my odds when I was 24 yrs. old, if I had wanted to be a SEAL.  But considering I never did desire that, it's kind of a self-masturbating "what if" scenario, now isn't it?
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I'm putting you down as a dead bolt lock.  Notwithstanding your personal desire (or lack thereof) to don a trident, you would have stuck it out just out of spite.  
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:05:12 PM EST
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Was not mentally (maturity) and physically prepared at 22 when I was commissioned.  Considered but never pulled the lever in my late 20's when I had grown up mentally.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:05:25 PM EST
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Even if I could get physically and mentally prepared, I learned the hard way I can't equalize pressure in my ears in deep water, so I'd never make it.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:06:42 PM EST
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Nope, I'd probably drown
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:12:19 PM EST
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Lol you seem personally offended that anyone could be physically and mentally tough, and not be in the military.
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So no then
Lol you seem personally offended that anyone could be physically and mentally tough, and not be in the military.
The act of actually showing up is a determining factor in a pass/fail for BUD/S. The question is if you could pass BUD/S.

I am sure you are plenty physically and mentally fit.

Nothing personal man.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:12:22 PM EST
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Pretty sure the guy you quoted can speak with some level of credibility.
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This thread is gonna get good.
Pretty sure the guy you quoted can speak with some level of credibility.
Duh?

Hence why it will be good.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:15:30 PM EST
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When is your ship date?
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You're triggered.

And it makes me laugh.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:17:30 PM EST
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Given by age 24 I already had more than 36 months overseas, and was in great shape — yes, my 24 year old self could accomplish it.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:20:15 PM EST
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I don't have the right hair to be a SEAL.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:23:11 PM EST
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Given by age 24 I already had more than 36 months overseas, and was in great shape — yes, my 24 year old self could accomplish it.
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BUH BRO, WHEN DO YOU SHIP BRO?!!?

Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:28:43 PM EST
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The act of actually showing up is a determining factor in a pass/fail for BUD/S. The question is if you could pass BUD/S.

I am sure you are plenty physically and mentally fit.

Nothing personal man.
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I don't see it that way.




The OP didn't ask, "are you going to join and try to complete BUD/s training?"



The OP asked "do you think you could complete BUD/s training?"

I answered.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:30:17 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:30:55 PM EST
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Heck no.... as soon as sleep deprivation started, I'd be out like a fat kid in dodge ball!

I think I might endure the rest. I get delirious with out sleep.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:32:06 PM EST
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I'm putting you down as a dead bolt lock.  Notwithstanding your personal desire (or lack thereof) to don a trident, you would have stuck it out just out of spite.  
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So in that light, I kind of like my odds when I was 24 yrs. old, if I had wanted to be a SEAL.  But considering I never did desire that, it's kind of a self-masturbating "what if" scenario, now isn't it?
I'm putting you down as a dead bolt lock.  Notwithstanding your personal desire (or lack thereof) to don a trident, you would have stuck it out just out of spite.  
Not just no, but HELL NAW! No way I'm wearing Navy uniform(s), ever.    

But you're not far off on the spite thing.  Spite & coffee, it's what keeps me going most days.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:33:37 PM EST
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OP I'm a 39 YO with  cancer and  no cartridge in either knee  what do you think

Have you ever met a SEAL those fucks are hard core crazy I had 7 in my airborne school chalk with me. 3 got recycled for climbing the 350 foot towers and doing pull ups on them
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:35:07 PM EST
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Please tell me some of you are just messing around...
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I'm 25. Probably.

Then again I think the swimming, particularly the drown proofing would wash me out.

ETA: I only say probably because I already work 2 jobs (one being physical) and have had them land fucked up causing me to do one to two days working with no sleep.
Please tell me some of you are just messing around...
What?

I've read a few SEAL books that describe BUD/S, that part (working hard with no sleep) seems to be a major cause for wash out.

Plus I already admited the water would probably fuck me up.(even though Chris Kyle could barely swim when he joined the Navy)

Everything ive read on it the SEALs seams to all down play BUD/S compared to the public perception. I've had family in UDT and he wasn't a crazy super star athlete either.

ETA: I should have put maybe instead of probably.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:35:47 PM EST
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There have been guys who showed up to BUD/S that did not know how to swim, eg AJ, from the movie Act of Valor.

I  think most of the dudes here who say they can pass BUD/S think it's JUST running and swimming and being "in shape."

You got no fucking clue.  55 degree fucking water for 5 days?  GTFO.

Anybody see that pic of Jason Redman at the finish of BUD/S?  The dude LOOKS like he couldn't make a high-school JV football team.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:36:24 PM EST
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Nope. I'm in relatively good shape, but I'm 44 with three knee surgeries.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:37:37 PM EST
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Lol you seem personally offended that anyone could be physically and mentally tough, and not be in the military.
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I don't know about him, but I am.  

Your country has been at war for over a decade. I miss my family all the time, but I believe that all able bodied men have an obligation to serve.  Sometimes that means manning up and accepting that you have to be away for a while for the good of your family's future.

People don't have to make a career of it, but if someone isn't willing to at least serve a single enlistment, whether active or reserve, then yeah- I am offended, at best.  Disappointed is maybe even a better descriptor.  

I don't understand how those people live with themselves, honestly.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:40:22 PM EST
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BUH BRO, WHEN DO YOU SHIP BRO?!!?

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I still love this thread.  
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:41:50 PM EST
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Even at my healthiest I couldn't.....now at 50?  fuck that shit
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:41:57 PM EST
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Decades ago, sure, as I really enjoyed stamina workouts.  Not a chance now though.  All my previous stamina stuff simply wore out my parts.  The human body is not that much different than an automobile.  Driven at reasonable speeds and well maintained over smooth roads, they last a long time.  Poor maintenance, driven really hard over rough roads, and stuff wears out more quickly.

The funny thing is that now I feel like that old car going down the road, and I have to keep an eye on the rearview mirror to see what falls off next, and goes skipping down the road behind me....even when I do see something fall off, I have to decide whether it is even worth going back to pick it up.    Getting old ain't for whimps.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:43:44 PM EST
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Too old now but even in my prime there's no way.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:46:11 PM EST
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15 years ago I would have stood maybe a chance.... Now?  No way my back could take it.  Thanks uncle Sam.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:46:33 PM EST
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Lol you seem personally offended that anyone could be physically and mentally tough, and not be in the military.
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"I met my (future) wife and didn't go, though. "  

That sort of decision making does not scream, "mentally tough."
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:46:45 PM EST
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I don't know about him, but I am.  

Your country has been at war for over a decade. I miss my family all the time, but I believe that all able bodied men have an obligation to serve.  Sometimes that means manning up and accepting that you have to be away for a while for the good of your family's future.

People don't have to make a career of it, but if someone isn't willing to at least serve a single enlistment, whether active or reserve, then yeah- I am offended, at best.  Disappointed is maybe even a better descriptor.  

I don't understand how those people live with themselves, honestly.
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Bro, I didn't serve cuz nobody tells me what to do. I would've messed up the drill sergeants once they started getting in my face and telling me how to do things. Those weak, conformist betas aren't smart enough to think for themselves.





To answer the question, NO.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:47:18 PM EST
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lol, no.
Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:49:51 PM EST
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1989

Class 161 and then again class 164.

11 stress fractures between both legs....

Was not able to do it then, add close to 30 years and two blown discs in my back now?!?!?!?!

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Link Posted: 10/10/2017 12:51:10 PM EST
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I voted "no" because I'm not mentally willing to do it, and that's a huge portion of it.
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This is exactly what I wanted to say.


I could not mentally see myself as a Perverted Sailor.


Besides...

Dirty Harry said...

A man has got to know his limitations.
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