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There are some people who could never pass BUDS due their intolerance to cold. You need a body type that has evolved to tolerate cold. That is one reason they are mostly people who's ancestors came from northern climates.
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If given 18 months to prepare, could you pass BUD/S? ...snip... To make it more interesting and to include more of you; also assume you are in your twenties...let’s call it 24. I am interested to see if you believe you have the character and traits it takes to have prepared for it in 18 months and then handled the physical and mental aspects of BUD/S. ...snip... View Quote At 24 yrs. old, I wouldn't have needed 18 months. I would need the desire to become a SEAL, which is part of the mental aspect, which is the grinder for everyone. Behind that, as MadMike also discussed, is unforeseen injury. I'd be more interested in seeing the pass rate for BUD/S candidates with non-Navy prior service. Of the 3 I worked with, 2 went to the Teams (same background as me), the 1 that didn't got dropped 2x for medical (not the same background/community in the USMC). So in that light, I kind of like my odds when I was 24 yrs. old, if I had wanted to be a SEAL. But considering I never did desire that, it's kind of a self-masturbating "what if" scenario, now isn't it? |
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I could pass army basic without any training. But buds would require me to go back in time atleast a decade.
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So when is your ship date? View Quote I'm married and just had a baby. No way I could leave my daughter. I'd miss her every second. However, I do regret not joining. My whole family served, the males at least. I was in the DEP for the marines in high school. Took the asvab, did meps, was just waiting to graduate. I met my (future) wife and didn't go, though. Probably my only real life regret. Not only did I not achieve something I dreamed of every day as a kid, I broke the tradition of every male serving in my family. |
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Not saying BUDS is a total walk in the park, but one has to take a broader view of the statistics to find an underlying causality there. Look at the pool the Navy is pulling from. Not a diss against the Navy, but they are not pulling from people who have an infantry background at all. That's a major point other services focus on when criticizing the SEALS in general. The vast majority of people going to BUDS in the Navy have never really been in that sort of environment before, whereas when you look at the specops units schools/indocs for say the Army or Marine Corps, they have. You don't get to even show up at those schools if you haven't had the required background humping rucks, PTing a lot, doing generally uncomfortable shitty things, etc. In the Navy, not so much. People in BUDS are learning infantry type shit for the very first time. That skews those pass/fail statistics a ton. So it isn't that BUDS is the hardest school on earth, it's a really hard school with perhaps the least prepared applicant pool of the big time special special schools. View Quote |
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I imagine it's just as much mental as physical. No desire to be a SEAL, so nope. View Quote I have zero desire to be a SEAL so... but, throw a few $mil in as the "prize" for passing and that money is as good as mine |
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I'd be more interested in seeing the pass rate for BUD/S candidates with non-Navy prior service. Of the 3 I worked with, 2 went to the Teams (same background as me), the 1 that didn't got dropped 2x for medical (not the same background/community in the USMC). View Quote |
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No, not even if I was 20 again. I don't think I could hack it physically or mentally.
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Unless something in my life changes drastically (it'd have to be for the worse, so I hope it doesn't) never. I'm married and just had a baby. No way I could leave my daughter. I'd miss her every second. However, I do regret not joining. My whole family served, the males at least. I was in the DEP for the marines in high school. Took the asvab, did meps, was just waiting to graduate. I met my (future) wife and didn't go, though. Probably my only real life regret. Not only did I not achieve something I dreamed of every day as a kid, I broke the tradition of every male serving in my family. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So when is your ship date? I'm married and just had a baby. No way I could leave my daughter. I'd miss her every second. However, I do regret not joining. My whole family served, the males at least. I was in the DEP for the marines in high school. Took the asvab, did meps, was just waiting to graduate. I met my (future) wife and didn't go, though. Probably my only real life regret. Not only did I not achieve something I dreamed of every day as a kid, I broke the tradition of every male serving in my family. |
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Physically, 18 mos is a long time to train up. Still no due to old injuries.
Mentally, I don't think I'd ever want to be a SEAL bad enough to endure all that. |
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So in that light, I kind of like my odds when I was 24 yrs. old, if I had wanted to be a SEAL. But considering I never did desire that, it's kind of a self-masturbating "what if" scenario, now isn't it? View Quote |
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Was not mentally (maturity) and physically prepared at 22 when I was commissioned. Considered but never pulled the lever in my late 20's when I had grown up mentally.
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Even if I could get physically and mentally prepared, I learned the hard way I can't equalize pressure in my ears in deep water, so I'd never make it.
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Lol you seem personally offended that anyone could be physically and mentally tough, and not be in the military. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So no then I am sure you are plenty physically and mentally fit. Nothing personal man. |
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Given by age 24 I already had more than 36 months overseas, and was in great shape — yes, my 24 year old self could accomplish it.
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The act of actually showing up is a determining factor in a pass/fail for BUD/S. The question is if you could pass BUD/S. I am sure you are plenty physically and mentally fit. Nothing personal man. View Quote The OP didn't ask, "are you going to join and try to complete BUD/s training?" The OP asked "do you think you could complete BUD/s training?" I answered. |
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Heck no.... as soon as sleep deprivation started, I'd be out like a fat kid in dodge ball!
I think I might endure the rest. I get delirious with out sleep. |
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I'm putting you down as a dead bolt lock. Notwithstanding your personal desire (or lack thereof) to don a trident, you would have stuck it out just out of spite. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So in that light, I kind of like my odds when I was 24 yrs. old, if I had wanted to be a SEAL. But considering I never did desire that, it's kind of a self-masturbating "what if" scenario, now isn't it? But you're not far off on the spite thing. Spite & coffee, it's what keeps me going most days. |
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OP I'm a 39 YO with cancer and no cartridge in either knee what do you think
Have you ever met a SEAL those fucks are hard core crazy I had 7 in my airborne school chalk with me. 3 got recycled for climbing the 350 foot towers and doing pull ups on them |
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Please tell me some of you are just messing around... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm 25. Probably. Then again I think the swimming, particularly the drown proofing would wash me out. ETA: I only say probably because I already work 2 jobs (one being physical) and have had them land fucked up causing me to do one to two days working with no sleep. I've read a few SEAL books that describe BUD/S, that part (working hard with no sleep) seems to be a major cause for wash out. Plus I already admited the water would probably fuck me up.(even though Chris Kyle could barely swim when he joined the Navy) Everything ive read on it the SEALs seams to all down play BUD/S compared to the public perception. I've had family in UDT and he wasn't a crazy super star athlete either. ETA: I should have put maybe instead of probably. |
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There have been guys who showed up to BUD/S that did not know how to swim, eg AJ, from the movie Act of Valor.
I think most of the dudes here who say they can pass BUD/S think it's JUST running and swimming and being "in shape." You got no fucking clue. 55 degree fucking water for 5 days? GTFO. Anybody see that pic of Jason Redman at the finish of BUD/S? The dude LOOKS like he couldn't make a high-school JV football team. |
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Nope. I'm in relatively good shape, but I'm 44 with three knee surgeries.
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Lol you seem personally offended that anyone could be physically and mentally tough, and not be in the military. View Quote Your country has been at war for over a decade. I miss my family all the time, but I believe that all able bodied men have an obligation to serve. Sometimes that means manning up and accepting that you have to be away for a while for the good of your family's future. People don't have to make a career of it, but if someone isn't willing to at least serve a single enlistment, whether active or reserve, then yeah- I am offended, at best. Disappointed is maybe even a better descriptor. I don't understand how those people live with themselves, honestly. |
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Even at my healthiest I couldn't.....now at 50? fuck that shit
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Decades ago, sure, as I really enjoyed stamina workouts. Not a chance now though. All my previous stamina stuff simply wore out my parts. The human body is not that much different than an automobile. Driven at reasonable speeds and well maintained over smooth roads, they last a long time. Poor maintenance, driven really hard over rough roads, and stuff wears out more quickly.
The funny thing is that now I feel like that old car going down the road, and I have to keep an eye on the rearview mirror to see what falls off next, and goes skipping down the road behind me....even when I do see something fall off, I have to decide whether it is even worth going back to pick it up. Getting old ain't for whimps. |
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15 years ago I would have stood maybe a chance.... Now? No way my back could take it. Thanks uncle Sam.
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I don't know about him, but I am. Your country has been at war for over a decade. I miss my family all the time, but I believe that all able bodied men have an obligation to serve. Sometimes that means manning up and accepting that you have to be away for a while for the good of your family's future. People don't have to make a career of it, but if someone isn't willing to at least serve a single enlistment, whether active or reserve, then yeah- I am offended, at best. Disappointed is maybe even a better descriptor. I don't understand how those people live with themselves, honestly. View Quote To answer the question, NO. |
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Class 161 and then again class 164. 11 stress fractures between both legs.... Was not able to do it then, add close to 30 years and two blown discs in my back now?!?!?!?! Attached File |
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