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Quoted: I’m amazed at the hubris of people who don’t know what they don’t even know, trying to explain to people who have lived this their entire life. If anyone should be ashamed, you definitely are the top of that list View Quote LOL This i a threath about F-16s, you know? You sound a bit like a triggered snowflake pretending to know shit yet you fail badly at reading, so there's that. |
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Quoted: LOL This i a threath about F-16s, you know? You sound a bit like a triggered snowflake pretending to know shit yet you fail badly at reading, so there's that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I’m amazed at the hubris of people who don’t know what they don’t even know, trying to explain to people who have lived this their entire life. If anyone should be ashamed, you definitely are the top of that list LOL This i a threath about F-16s, you know? You sound a bit like a triggered snowflake pretending to know shit yet you fail badly at reading, so there's that. No, I just annoyed at people who gaslight about shit they don’t know AND YOU’VE CONSTANTLY DEMONSTRATED YOU DON’T KNOW JACK OF SHIT ABOUT THE SUBJECT, BUT THAT DOESN’T STOP YOU FROM BLATHERING ON |
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Quoted: I said repeatedly supplying Ukraine has created a capability gap, and that gap will not be closed anywhere near the supposed Davidson window closes. And if you have to Google the Davidson window you fall into a group of you don’t know what you don’t know View Quote And you fail to realize that this should be a wake up call as it is proof that we need MUCH more ammo and airplanes when the war against the Chincoms starts. But I bet you will throw Taiwan under the bus, just like Ukraine. |
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Quoted: And you fail to realize that this should be a wake up call as it is proof that we need MUCH more ammo and airplanes when the war against the Chincoms starts. But I bet you will throw Taiwan under the bus, just like Ukraine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I said repeatedly supplying Ukraine has created a capability gap, and that gap will not be closed anywhere near the supposed Davidson window closes. And if you have to Google the Davidson window you fall into a group of you don’t know what you don’t know And you fail to realize that this should be a wake up call as it is proof that we need MUCH more ammo and airplanes when the war against the Chincoms starts. But I bet you will throw Taiwan under the bus, just like Ukraine. Yes, we need to create more ordinance however by giving away ordinance before we create the new ordinance is just digging a deeper hole. And since the SCS is our primary designated area of interest it doesn’t make any sense to continue to dig that hole deeper for an area that is not our primary area of interest |
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Quoted: You think F-16's are ammunition, so you should better shut your piehole :) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No, I just annoyed at people who gaslight about shit they don’t know AND YOU’VE CONSTANTLY DEMONSTRATED YOU DON’T KNOW JACK OF SHIT ABOUT THE SUBJECT, BUT THAT DOESN’T STOP YOU FROM BLATHERING ON You think F-16's are ammunition, so you should better shut your piehole :) Attached File You are the one posted this |
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Quoted: I'm not trying to comment on every-single-UA thread... but THIS is an important observation. Rooskie FUD campaigns have infected the brains of weak minded Americans on both sides. We knew this was happening, and few things surprise me, but I was SHOCKED at how the GD of every major gun forum is overflowing with Communist false-narratives designed to discourage Free-World resistance to Neo-Soviet violent expansionism. Guys who used to love America, and embrace our values and culture, turned straight up ORIENTAL craving for serfdom under an oppressive tyrant like Putin. They were clearly and not indirectly saying to each other- don't hate the Enemy, hate your fellow American! Legendary warriors picked up some kind of narrative like, I would never encourage anyone to serve in the military so long as my party keeps losing elections. They were repeating bizarre nonsequitur linkages like, So long as we have a fentanyl crisis, we need to appease the Soviets in all things! I read once- We should meet with the largest, weakest nation in the East and engage in bilateral negotiations to determine the freedom and fate of former Soviet states and... spoiler alert- push them back behind the Iron Curtain. (I suppose they don't realize that Romania, alone, could completely zero-out the Russian military in 90 days- and they would strike inside Russia) Every single day, the coffee starts to drip in the Kremlin bright and early, and the Soviets ask themselves, "What can we get away with today that will go right up to the limit, but not provoke an American response?" It's been going on like this for decades. The obvious answer is- Fucking NOTHING... Russia is weak, and the only reason we listen to them is Energy. The penalty for misbehavior is not a tariff on vodka or cutting off their supply of limes either- it's LARGE NUMBERS of Rooskie KIA, every day, with only one way to make it stop. F-16s are on the way- Rooskies can expect improved daily totals soon- in all categories. It's only going to get worse, and worse, and worse... until either Russian withdrawal, or collapse and fragmentation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: When did so many Americans puss out over Russia. I dont remember so much bed-whetting during the Cold War... I'm not trying to comment on every-single-UA thread... but THIS is an important observation. Rooskie FUD campaigns have infected the brains of weak minded Americans on both sides. We knew this was happening, and few things surprise me, but I was SHOCKED at how the GD of every major gun forum is overflowing with Communist false-narratives designed to discourage Free-World resistance to Neo-Soviet violent expansionism. Guys who used to love America, and embrace our values and culture, turned straight up ORIENTAL craving for serfdom under an oppressive tyrant like Putin. They were clearly and not indirectly saying to each other- don't hate the Enemy, hate your fellow American! Legendary warriors picked up some kind of narrative like, I would never encourage anyone to serve in the military so long as my party keeps losing elections. They were repeating bizarre nonsequitur linkages like, So long as we have a fentanyl crisis, we need to appease the Soviets in all things! I read once- We should meet with the largest, weakest nation in the East and engage in bilateral negotiations to determine the freedom and fate of former Soviet states and... spoiler alert- push them back behind the Iron Curtain. (I suppose they don't realize that Romania, alone, could completely zero-out the Russian military in 90 days- and they would strike inside Russia) Every single day, the coffee starts to drip in the Kremlin bright and early, and the Soviets ask themselves, "What can we get away with today that will go right up to the limit, but not provoke an American response?" It's been going on like this for decades. The obvious answer is- Fucking NOTHING... Russia is weak, and the only reason we listen to them is Energy. The penalty for misbehavior is not a tariff on vodka or cutting off their supply of limes either- it's LARGE NUMBERS of Rooskie KIA, every day, with only one way to make it stop. F-16s are on the way- Rooskies can expect improved daily totals soon- in all categories. It's only going to get worse, and worse, and worse... until either Russian withdrawal, or collapse and fragmentation. Click! And subscribed to the news letter. When Javelins were popping turrets left and right I expected GD to be like 'America! Fuck yeah!' instead large parts just whined about the US arms industry |
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Quoted: ?? OK. You and Ron can continue to bloviate and cry everytime aid to Ukraine is brought up. But guess what genius, you don't set US foreign policy and never will. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: He’s one of the most knowledgeable posters here. I don’t think anyone describes you the same way. ?? OK. You and Ron can continue to bloviate and cry everytime aid to Ukraine is brought up. But guess what genius, you don't set US foreign policy and never will. Yep, Joe Biden does. I am sure that gives you hope. |
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Quoted: IMHO, the F-16s won't be the game-changer everyone thinks. They're great birds but will be sitting ducks on the ground. View Quote US air power works so well because of the skillful integration of different systems and capabilities. Without that, the F-16 is just another fighter to replace airframes they have lost. |
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Quoted: Better stock up on 1,000,000,000 SPF sunblock because it's coming if this keeps escalating. Back an animal in a corner long enough and it will bite. Everyone knows were these F-16's will come from. Just because they're laundered through a different country doesn't mean we aren't sending them. With wide open borders like we have I'd imagine 9/11 will look like nothing compared to what could happen here. Something something, be careful of a man that has nothing to lose. View Quote Surrendering makes it more likely, not less, that it will happen. |
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Quoted: No, I just annoyed at people who gaslight about shit they don’t know AND YOU’VE CONSTANTLY DEMONSTRATED YOU DON’T KNOW JACK OF SHIT ABOUT THE SUBJECT, BUT THAT DOESN’T STOP YOU FROM BLATHERING ON View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’m amazed at the hubris of people who don’t know what they don’t even know, trying to explain to people who have lived this their entire life. If anyone should be ashamed, you definitely are the top of that list LOL This i a threath about F-16s, you know? You sound a bit like a triggered snowflake pretending to know shit yet you fail badly at reading, so there's that. No, I just annoyed at people who gaslight about shit they don’t know AND YOU’VE CONSTANTLY DEMONSTRATED YOU DON’T KNOW JACK OF SHIT ABOUT THE SUBJECT, BUT THAT DOESN’T STOP YOU FROM BLATHERING ON Aren’t you an artillery officer? The fuck do you know about Dutch and Danish F16s? |
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Quoted: ?? OK. You and Ron can continue to bloviate and cry everytime aid to Ukraine is brought up. But guess what genius, you don't set US foreign policy and never will. View Quote I wonder how much you pay in taxes every year. Maybe if you paid more you’d actually give a shit about seeing it wasted. |
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Quoted: I wonder how much you pay in taxes every year. Maybe if you paid more you’d actually give a shit about seeing it wasted. View Quote If you're this upset over a few billion being given to Ukraine, you must absolutely break down in sobs daily at how much is wasted elsewhere. I feel sorry for you. |
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Quoted: Aren’t you an artillery officer? The fuck do you know about Dutch and Danish F16s? View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: Yes, fighting a nuclear power makes it less likely for them to use nuclear weapons rather than not fighting them. Absolute genius stuff here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Surrendering makes it more likely, not less, that it will happen. Yes, fighting a nuclear power makes it less likely for them to use nuclear weapons rather than not fighting them. Absolute genius stuff here. Remember all of the nuclear wars we got into over previous proxy wars? |
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Quoted: If you're this upset over a few billion being given to Ukraine, you must absolutely break down in sobs daily at how much is wasted elsewhere. I feel sorry for you. View Quote Oh just a few billion. Cool. Guessing you’re another person who pays shit in taxes. Get the fuck out with your faux conservative war mongering bullshit and back to Reddit. |
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Thanks for playing games with my kids futures in order to line your pockets, war mongers. Now their financial AND physical well being is at risk.
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Quoted: Oh just a few billion. Cool. Guessing you’re another person who pays shit in taxes. Get the fuck out with your faux conservative war mongering bullshit and back to Reddit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If you're this upset over a few billion being given to Ukraine, you must absolutely break down in sobs daily at how much is wasted elsewhere. I feel sorry for you. Oh just a few billion. Cool. Guessing you’re another person who pays shit in taxes. Get the fuck out with your faux conservative war mongering bullshit and back to Reddit. How many millions of dollars worth of JP-5 have you burned to do something an A-29 could do for a tenth the cost? |
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Quoted: Aren’t you an artillery officer? The fuck do you know about Dutch and Danish F16s? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’m amazed at the hubris of people who don’t know what they don’t even know, trying to explain to people who have lived this their entire life. If anyone should be ashamed, you definitely are the top of that list LOL This i a threath about F-16s, you know? You sound a bit like a triggered snowflake pretending to know shit yet you fail badly at reading, so there's that. No, I just annoyed at people who gaslight about shit they don’t know AND YOU’VE CONSTANTLY DEMONSTRATED YOU DON’T KNOW JACK OF SHIT ABOUT THE SUBJECT, BUT THAT DOESN’T STOP YOU FROM BLATHERING ON Aren’t you an artillery officer? The fuck do you know about Dutch and Danish F16s? Yep, I was also a JTAC. I have actually controlled their fires before. So what the FUCK ARE YOUR QUALS to discuss the subject. Oh that is right none. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Aren’t you an artillery officer? The fuck do you know about Dutch and Danish F16s? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-96.gif Other than living off the largess of the security my nation provide, WHAT ARE QUALS ON THIS SUBJECT? Exactly none |
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This article which is pro Ukraine Sky news claims no country has spare F-16s to give but I was under the impression upon USA approval thatvat least Netherlands was already prepared to provide them? https://news.sky.com/story/amp/ukraine-the-f-16-fighter-jets-why-they-could-be-so-significant-and-when-they-can-be-delivered-12885061 Attached File
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Quoted: Other than living off the largess of the security my nation provide, WHAT ARE QUALS ON THIS SUBJECT? Exactly none View Quote Attached File |
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Other than assuming Netherlands would transfer from its inventory I’m not seeing any other nations offering aircraft, only training. Anyone have insight on F-16 aircraft not F-16 training?https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/05/20/denmark-joins-ukraines-f-16-fighter-jet-coalition/ Attached File
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FUCK Ukraine.
Fight your own war. NATO expansion has caused this, and now we are doing everything we can to kick off WW3. Complete bullshit. |
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Quoted: What utter nonsense, sounds like something complied by Chat Gtp NL for instance paid for our F-16s and now have them in surplus because they have been replaced by F-35s that have also been paid for. View Quote UK can’t provide, I think Germany said no and Poland said can’t. Any insight on others like Denmark? I can’t find actual detailed pledges so I figure will have to wait after the G-7 meeting in Japan ends. |
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Quoted: A Dutch company (ASML) makes the most advanced chip production machienes, this is pretty much cutting edge stuff and effectivly not replicable. At US request NL stopped shipping any cutting edge stuff to China quite some time ago and recently at US request has stopped shipping mid tier machienes. Macron is fucked at the next election and is just floating shit to appeal to his leftwing fringe. https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/28/netherlands-us-agree-export-restriction-asml-chip-machines "Minister Liesje Schreinemacher (Foreign Trade) previously stated the talks were about maintaining Western technological leadership. The negotiating countries also want to avoid too much dependence on China for chips. In addition, the U.S. and the Netherlands want to prevent advanced chips from being used in weapons by countries such as China. But the Netherlands would not simply meet all of the Americans' demands, the minister stressed." View Quote I’m aware of Netherlands hence why I used the word some. Same for Ukraine, some of Europe is heavily contributing while some of Europe is hardly or not at all. Airbus expanded its contracts with China during Macron’s visit https://www.forbes.com/sites/pauliddon/2023/05/19/there-are-more-f-16s-in-the-middle-east-than-europe-but-ukraine-probably-wont-get-any/amp/ Attached File |
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Quoted: FUCK Ukraine. Fight your own war. NATO expansion has caused this, and now we are doing everything we can to kick off WW3. Complete bullshit. View Quote |
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Quoted: Better stock up on 1,000,000,000 SPF sunblock because it's coming if this keeps escalating. Back an animal in a corner long enough and it will bite. Everyone knows were these F-16's will come from. Just because they're laundered through a different country doesn't mean we aren't sending them. With wide open borders like we have I'd imagine 9/11 will look like nothing compared to what could happen here. Something something, be careful of a man that has nothing to lose. View Quote Russia threatens nukes routinely while I never say never Crimea is the only thing I suspect Russia might consider nukes over not F-16s. But I could be wrong of course. As for who provides F-16s I figured Netherlands since they initiated this F-16 for Ukraine push but I really don’t know who’s giving what and in what numbers but I’ll keep trying to figure it out. Attached File |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Other than living off the largess of the security my nation provide, WHAT ARE QUALS ON THIS SUBJECT? Exactly none /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/LOL-UMAD-BRO1gqf_zps44023202_JPG-109.jpg Nope just tired of a whole bunch of people who have very little knowledge who keep talking about that subject. But I notice no mention of what your quals to speak on the topic are. |
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Eventually the Ukrainian Air Force will be integrated into Nato. Officially or in an unofficial capacity. This is a good first step in the training and methodology of Nato Air forces.
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Quoted: FUCK Ukraine. Fight your own war. NATO expansion has caused this, and now we are doing everything we can to kick off WW3. Complete bullshit. View Quote Ukraine War Q&A Series: Who Really Started This Whole Thing? || Peter Zeihan |
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Quoted: There is evidently an agenda by some to ramp up the threat of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan as an excuse to cut off aid to Ukraine. I guess 10% for the Big Guy, fight against globohomo, or UkrNazis wasn't getting the expected traction. View Quote Find a single post where I’ve ever recommended Ukraine not receive any aid and I’ll delete my account. But you seem to be hell bent on downplaying or dismissing the threat from China in what appears to be an exclusive focus solely on Ukraine. Netherlands giving F-16s to Ukraine is from their inventory not ours but when I raise HIMARS, Paladins, missiles and stinger issues that need to be dealt with, you make a post like this. This agenda driven fixation won’t generate the outcome you seek either with GD or in Congress. Ukraine needs support but it needs to be prudently conducted not reckless. As far as this thread the outstanding issue is who’s providing the F-16s, accompanied weaponary and maintenance required? I’m waiting for concrete numbers from the Dutch and or any others? This is newly decided so I imagine it will take the G-7 meeting to figure out details. |
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Quoted: Nope just tired of a whole bunch of people who have very little knowledge who keep talking about that subject. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Other than living off the largess of the security my nation provide, WHAT ARE QUALS ON THIS SUBJECT? Exactly none /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/LOL-UMAD-BRO1gqf_zps44023202_JPG-109.jpg Nope just tired of a whole bunch of people who have very little knowledge who keep talking about that subject. And what have I said on the subject? Someone asked what you know about F-16s in European service. Are they depleting US stockpiles of "cutting edge" F-16s? I thought everyone wanted Europe to do more. Now people are mad that they are doing more? It's hard to keep up when the goal posts keep moving. Have a good day. You and I have no control over what these "leaders" on any side do, SME or not. |
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Quoted: Taiwan isn’t being Bombed and invaded right now. Ukraine is View Quote It’s an island there is no Romania or Poland next door https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/08/taiwan-needs-weapons-for-day-1-of-a-chinese-invasion/ |
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Quoted: Surrendering makes it more likely, not less, that it will happen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Better stock up on 1,000,000,000 SPF sunblock because it's coming if this keeps escalating. Back an animal in a corner long enough and it will bite. Everyone knows were these F-16's will come from. Just because they're laundered through a different country doesn't mean we aren't sending them. With wide open borders like we have I'd imagine 9/11 will look like nothing compared to what could happen here. Something something, be careful of a man that has nothing to lose. Surrendering makes it more likely, not less, that it will happen. No cost is too high for Ukraine’s total victory. Back to its original borders. If Russia uses nukes so do we. Actually you might throw NATO countries in there too. But like I said no matter the cost to us or the world. |
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Quoted: We are fighting a nuclear power? View Quote To be fair Moscow keeps claiming that “NATO generals, special forces etc are fighting in Ukraine” whether they believe it, suspect it or it’s just agitprop I have no clue but Biden set that in motion with his 82nd airborne division comment https://nypost.com/2022/03/25/joe-biden-says-us-troops-will-be-in-ukraine-in-apparent-gaffe/amp/ |
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Quoted: No, I just annoyed at people who gaslight about shit they don’t know AND YOU’VE CONSTANTLY DEMONSTRATED YOU DON’T KNOW JACK OF SHIT ABOUT THE SUBJECT, BUT THAT DOESN’T STOP YOU FROM BLATHERING ON View Quote I think even worse is the people here who should know better but still blindly support Biden’s “current thing”. Can’t help but notice many of them have retired and no longer have to worry about being directly impacted by more war other than to attend more briefings in their GS jobs. Funny how that works. |
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Quoted: Gunny Green Tip has arrived, thread saved now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My unit has more shortages of equipment due to border operations than Ukraine. Gunny Green Tip has arrived, thread saved now. Have you considered holding yourself to the same quality standards you expect from others? |
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