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For those of you who have not already done so, please take a moment to write, email, and/or call your congressmen and your senators even if they are democrats. Write, email, and/or call your state legislators; even if they are democrats. Write, email, and/or call Trump. pcsutton's thread has contact info to make it fast and simple for those who need it on the federal level (white house contact info down in the thread; if you need state contacts, let me know and I will get them for you). View Quote |
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It has always been my fundamental perception that Donald Trump is a clueless asshole whose main talent is breezily saying whatever he thinks people want to hear. It shocks me that some of you are just now figuring this out. It has always been my fundamental perception that Donald Trump has no bedrock principles, certainly no deep understanding of Constitutional truths, and that he will do whatever makes him the center of attention at any given moment. Oh well. Maybe an adult in the room will clue him in as to why his base is suddenly so pissed off. View Quote |
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His usual pattern of "Negotiating" is to ask for way more than he expects to get.
That only makes sense sense here if he's negotiating against Republicans. Time to blow up the phone lines and email inboxes of all republican senators and every democrat about to run for re-election in a state Trump won. |
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First president to switch parties and win a second term? He will be beloved of Hollywood and all media a great boon if you are in the entertainment and hospitality business and want to be a media personality after you leave office. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That picture is going to be a game changer come next election cycle. He will be beloved of Hollywood and all media a great boon if you are in the entertainment and hospitality business and want to be a media personality after you leave office. |
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It just doesn't pass the smell test. How can guy that created enthusiasm among this same group of people for a long shot victory, not see the political 3rd rail that he is dancing on? Sure he is a rich NY life long liberal...but he knew the right things to say and do, and now he doesn't?
The guy that just officially announced his run for his 2nd term and in the same day pulled the pin on the political grenade that will cost him all the states he won with and gain him none of the oppositions? I'm not saying he is playing some game but he may have lost his mind. Before everyone panics...this has zero chance of passing either house of congress, but it's political suicide anyway. Did he get bored already and this is his way out of a 2nd term? |
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Trump has to know he will be primaried and most likely be a one term president if he signs an AWB. If Trump is going to trade an AWB for arming teachers that is still going to cost him his second term.
And why support raising the age to 21 to by an AR15 if the are including an AWB? That also makes no sense. So we are either being royally sold out, or Trump is doing his DACA playbook thing for the media - knowing it won't reach his desk. I have faith in a large majority of the republican controlled house stopping an AWB. Especially after gun owners start contacting them. And to be honest, I suspected Trump would be shakey on the 2nd amendment - just not sell us out shakey. |
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People really should wait and see what actually happens before they start soiling themselves. I'm not clairvoyant or anything, so I don't know either, but darn, some are beginning to sound just like the unhinged left around here.
...but whatever. I prefer not to get all worked up over stuff until it actually becomes stuff. Until then, I fire off friendly letters to my reps letting them know how I feel. |
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I'm going to laugh my ass off if the die hard Trump supporters have to thank Paul Ryan for killing an AWB.
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Quoted: If the Republican in Congress vote for it, it will not matter. View Quote If a bill barely passes in congress, then the Presidential veto kills it. There isn't enough support for gun control to get a veto-proof 2/3 majority in either house of congress. |
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maybe fienswine is giddy because she thinks they got trump to betray his voters.they want the NRA.
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Also, remember that after the Clinton AWB expired that GWB said he supported the Clinton AWB and that he would sign it if it got to his desk.
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The more she adds the less likely it is to pass out of committee......Much less pass the House when/if it gets there.
Maybe Trump learned something about "poison pills" from Ted Cruz. |
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If anything other than bump stocks passes, Republicans lose control after the midterms and president Trump is done. View Quote FUCK YO COURT @@@@@, FUCK YO COURT!! |
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Whatever gets proposed still has to make it through the House and Senate. There is where our battle lies.
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You're right, I should have voted for hillary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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This board is getting as bad as it was during the election. Fuck facts, my feelings are hurt so I don't care what is real or not.
If Trump gave Feinstein the go ahead to include an AW Ban then why at the very end of the meeting is she asking Trump "what do we do about these weapons of war" and goes on to talk about people buying AR15s? Here is a direct link to the full video with her comment at the very end. She wouldn't be asking that question if she had already been given the go ahead for an AW Ban and Trump wouldn't have blown her off telling her to talk to the other Senators about it. https://youtu.be/gjrWRDKKSCQ?t=1h1m59s |
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Yep. Talk is cheap and is a stalling tactic. Getting a bill passed is something else. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Also, remember that after the Clinton AWB expired that GWB said he supported the Clinton AWB and that he would sign it if it got to his desk. View Quote |
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This board is getting as bad as it was during the election. Fuck facts, my feelings are hurt so I don't care what is real or not. View Quote |
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That Trump train has slowed way down. It is pretty much come to a stop now. He's made it very easy to step off.
I don't know what the hell he thinks he is doing, but MAGA isn't looking too healthy these days... |
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I'm hoping Trump is simply inviting and creating an environment for the dems to go full-retard in their gun-grabbing, knowing full well he'll give them no more than he's already said he would....mentally ill, 21 y/o, bumpstocks.
When the Dems fail to agree or "give-in" and pass Trumps plan, he'll put the Dems back in the lime light as "once again, failing to pass legislation, this time on gun control" and "just like the DACA legislation and the Dem's failure on that one as well." If I'm wrong on the above, than holy Shiite, it's time for us all to draw that personal "line in the sand" on how far we're willing to lay down and take it. |
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Donald told me that he was on board with banning weapons of mass destruction but after we passed the bill he would not sign the bill.
-Diane Feinstein Yes, I told her I would sign a bill banning weapons of mass destruction, but she handed me a bill that bans guns which are not weapons of mass destruction. I was on board for supporting a bill that banned nuclear weapons and other bombs which are real weapons of mass destruction. -President Trump |
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