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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:15:07 PM EST
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Sad story for the kids. Two druggies dead, I can't find the fucks to give... Except for the kids and the mess their irresponsible parents left behind. We have a pain clinic in our hospital. If 5 of us arfcommers were sitting around a table, and split the single doses of about 25% of the patients, we would all die. Opiate users build a tolerance pretty quickly, and if you keep ramping up their intake, the tolerance grows. Most people can't take fentanyl if they are not opiate tolerant. The fentanyl deaths come from casual users of opiates who get their hands on real patches or doctored ones, powder or pills. Hey baby, I got these pills that look like Vicodin, but are a little stronger, wanna give em a go? Then they take fentanyl pills and their kids find them the next day. Kinda like when a new batch of heroin hits the streets and it is way more pure than what people are used to. They bang their normal load and keel over dead. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:15:44 PM EST
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Going by context, I'm going to guess they were referring to the children coming from previous marriages/relationships. One of the children referred to the pilot as "step-dad" and the sentence in the article about them being a "blended family" referred to children being from previous marriages. Y'all keep being outraged if you want, though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On an unrelated note, why did they mention it was a "blended" family? What does that have to do with anything?  Y'all keep being outraged if you want, though. 
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:18:34 PM EST
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I thought FAA mandates drug screening for pilots? |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:27:19 PM EST
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anyone who thinks this current opiate epidemic is just a poor, white trash, brown and black person problem has their head in the sand. this is hitting at every level and demographic of our society.  It's not an epidemic if it's something people are willingly doing to themselves. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:28:28 PM EST
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Trying to find a fuck to give and coming up empty. The dude was a fucking airline pilot and on junk? Good riddance. 
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:29:15 PM EST
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When it's administered by professionals using pharmaceutical-grade products, it's quite safe. I've had fentanyl twice that I know of when I had surgery; it's an awesome drug. When it's self-administered by non-medical professionals using street-grade crap that could be cut with anything, then it can be quite deadly. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:29:25 PM EST
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Yep, sucks for the kids to find parents like that, but I still do not understand the hole pilot angle of the thread title.
So he was a pill head who died and he was a pilot. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:32:32 PM EST
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damn, thats brutal. I really feel for those kids. 
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:33:37 PM EST
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Likely he probably got prescribed opiates for an injury or surgery then got hooked.
Since the crack down on prescribing pills and pain clinics the addicts have moved to dangerous street heroin for their fix, hence all the deaths I'm guessing his supply ran out and he resorted to buying street heroin for the first time for his fix. Maybe the idiot convinced his wife to try it or something. And obviously it was cut with fentanyl and he couldn't handle it. Sad situation. Feel bad for the kids. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:34:39 PM EST
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Poor kids, at least the folks learned to fly with Spirit
 Spirit In The Sky Norman Greenbaum |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:37:21 PM EST
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Meh the world is rid of couple dopers. One of which flew airliners
. I do have sympathy for the children though.
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:44:57 PM EST
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Dumb ass parents. Horrible age for those kids to go through something like this.
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:46:59 PM EST
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Yeah and fuck the kids too for being born, those little shits deserve zero fucks. Fuck empathy its for fucking faggots Is the world a better place now that there is one less heroin junkie piloting people through the skies? |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:49:29 PM EST
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zero fucks given
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:50:25 PM EST
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First time user, possibly? |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:52:05 PM EST
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anyone who thinks this current opiate epidemic is just a poor, white trash, brown and black person problem has their head in the sand. this is hitting at every level and demographic of our society. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:53:42 PM EST
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why the fuck do we need a drug 100 times more powerful than morphine?
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Posted: 3/16/2017 5:58:32 PM EST
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This is what happens when you outlaw Marijuana... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fentanyl is 100 times more powerful than morphine. It hits hard. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:01:27 PM EST
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Is fentanyl a pill, or is it taken via IV? |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:06:17 PM EST
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bullshit. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:10:06 PM EST
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Even the patches are very dangerous.
When Mom was in end stage cancer we were directed by the Doc to wear gloves while changing out her fentanyl patches even tho they were supposedly used up. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:12:47 PM EST
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That stuff is like playing Russian roulette. Fentanyl is bad, M'Kay?
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:22:28 PM EST
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2 more victims of the war on drugs. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:25:40 PM EST
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why the fuck do we need a drug 100 times more powerful than morphine? |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:27:44 PM EST
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I know it's everywhere, but that is a pretty yuppy area. My sister lives right around the corner.
The comments on the news story on Facebook have been interesting. One of their friends was livid, saying it couldn't have any thing to do with drugs.... Then the story updated and that person disappeared. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:27:55 PM EST
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bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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anyone who thinks this current opiate epidemic is just a poor, white trash, brown and black person problem has their head in the sand. this is hitting at every level and demographic of our society. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:29:07 PM EST
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Is fentanyl a pill, or is it taken via IV? |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:32:48 PM EST
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Is fentanyl a pill, or is it taken via IV? 
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:34:14 PM EST
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No shit. That is a helluva vision in your head to live with.
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:35:43 PM EST
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Even the patches are very dangerous. When Mom was in end stage cancer we were directed by the Doc to wear gloves while changing out her fentanyl patches even tho they were supposedly used up. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:36:03 PM EST
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Even when prescribed by a doctor, the drug can be abused. Compared with other opioids, fentanyl is more likely to cause sleep apnea. A relative of mine had bad apnea while on it, and once they changed to a different drug of similar strength, the apnea went away.
I do not know if apnea like that can cause a permanent Cessation of breathing...IE death. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:36:08 PM EST
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6 more victims. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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2 more victims of the war on drugs.
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:36:40 PM EST
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I thought FAA mandates drug screening for pilots?
Think about this when you fly commercial. They used to just be drunks. 
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:37:31 PM EST
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damn, thats brutal. I really feel for those kids. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:40:52 PM EST
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couple of junkies
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:41:46 PM EST
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I'm outraged by my own stupidity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On an unrelated note, why did they mention it was a "blended" family? What does that have to do with anything? Y'all keep being outraged if you want, though. I bought a bottle of smart water, thinking it would help me with that. I realized it was made by liberals because the lid was an IQ test. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:47:31 PM EST
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Self-solving problem, shame they dragged their kids into it.
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:49:45 PM EST
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Yeah and fuck the kids too for being born, those little shits deserve zero fucks. Fuck empathy its for fucking faggots
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:50:55 PM EST
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It actually hits a lot of upper and middle class people. Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Bob Beckel are perfect examples. Patton Oswald's wife was on Adderall, Fentanyl, and Xanax when she died and I never once heard a WTF? from the choir. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:52:35 PM EST
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Not bullshit. Several times within the past few years I've been given news that people I knew growing up fatally od'd on heroin/opiates. These were suburban kids from normal upper/middle-class families. That shit is everywhere now. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:56:50 PM EST
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4 kids,right there in the title. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 6:58:00 PM EST
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What a shame for those kids.
Hope they have some relatives to take them in. A pox upon parents who "bond over pharmaceuticals" |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 7:01:13 PM EST
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To save the google search: Fentanyl is a powerful synthetic opioid analgesic that is similar to morphine but is 50 to 100 times more potent. It is a schedule II prescription drug, and it is typically used to treat patients with severe pain or to manage pain after surgery. It is also sometimes used to treat patients with chronic pain who are physically tolerant to other opioids. In its prescription form, fentanyl is known by such names as Actiq®, Duragesic®, and Sublimaze®.Street names for fentanyl or for fentanyl-laced heroin include Apache, China Girl, China White, Dance Fever, Friend, Goodfella, Jackpot, Murder 8, TNT, and Tango and Cash. 
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Posted: 3/16/2017 7:02:52 PM EST
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In this thread a bunch of people who know fuck all about pharmacology will show their asses and beg big gubmint to ban a drug.
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Posted: 3/16/2017 7:03:55 PM EST
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why the fuck do we need a drug 100 times more powerful than morphine? I used Remifentanil for a patient today 1000 x more potent than morphine |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 7:05:28 PM EST
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Fentayl is bad enough but some of the synthetic fentanyl coming out of China is 30x more powerful. One dumbass playing around is all it takes to end up on a slab, or one kid accidentally exposed to their parents bull shit.
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Posted: 3/16/2017 7:06:11 PM EST
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Fentanyl pills won't do anything due to first pass metabolism. The shot it or snorted it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sad story for the kids. Two druggies dead, I can't find the fucks to give... Except for the kids and the mess their irresponsible parents left behind. We have a pain clinic in our hospital. If 5 of us arfcommers were sitting around a table, and split the single doses of about 25% of the patients, we would all die. Opiate users build a tolerance pretty quickly, and if you keep ramping up their intake, the tolerance grows. Most people can't take fentanyl if they are not opiate tolerant. The fentanyl deaths come from casual users of opiates who get their hands on real patches or doctored ones, powder or pills. Hey baby, I got these pills that look like Vicodin, but are a little stronger, wanna give em a go? Then they take fentanyl pills and their kids find them the next day. Kinda like when a new batch of heroin hits the streets and it is way more pure than what people are used to. They bang their normal load and keel over dead. Legal Fentanyl tablet These killed a bunch of people in the beginning... Illegal Fentanyl pills |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 7:07:03 PM EST
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To save the google search: Fentanyl is a powerful synthetic opioid analgesic that is similar to morphine but is 50 to 100 times more potent. It is a schedule II prescription drug, and it is typically used to treat patients with severe pain or to manage pain after surgery. It is also sometimes used to treat patients with chronic pain who are physically tolerant to other opioids. In its prescription form, fentanyl is known by such names as Actiq®, Duragesic®, and Sublimaze®.Street names for fentanyl or for fentanyl-laced heroin include Apache, China Girl, China White, Dance Fever, Friend, Goodfella, Jackpot, Murder 8, TNT, and Tango and Cash. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 7:07:05 PM EST
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Most commonly people get a hold of patches, which have a gel inside that can be cooked up and shot. Some users actually tear the patches open and chew on them rather than doing them IV. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 7:08:36 PM EST
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Used for what it is intended it is a good thing...used for recreation it is an extremely bad thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm amazed the stuff is still legal. It's extremely powerful, sneaks up on users, mistakes get made. There's someone at the local hospital trying to rehab with bone cancer from it. Given bad directions from the doctor with a mistake; you're dead. Used for what it is intended it is a good thing...used for recreation it is an extremely bad thing. 100% of the Fentanyl that is responsible for fatal overdoses is from Mexico, manufactured in illicit drug labs or illegally imported from China. If someone is under the impression that doctors are prescribing Fentanyl powder that people are injecting and overdosing on then they are fucked in the head. Injectable solutions of Fentanyl in the hospital are extremely regulated and don't leave the hospital. Fentanyl patches cannot have their Fentanyl removed for injection. Fucking drooling retards are now going to start blaming doctors for Fentanyl overdoses. Idiots.
I talked to a nurse tonight who suffered a subarachnoid mesencephalic bleed a couple of months back. She was on Fentanyl IV for 2 weeks for severe headaches while in the hospital. She was then switched to Oxycodone for another week and then discharged on that. She tapered herself off over a week. She is not an addict looking for more Fentanyl. She's back to working full-time as a nurse. People who abuse opiates choose to do so. |
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