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Posted: 8/17/2023 8:33:21 PM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 300k for a mustang. Ho. Lee. Fuck. Quote HistoryQuoted: 300k for a mustang. Ho. Lee. Fuck. It's a hand built race car with a Mustang shell. They want to win this race for marketing purposes. Billionaires are going to fund it. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 8:40:12 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Umm, 0-60 in 3.5 seconds is damn fast. And yet it's mid 12 second 1/4 mile is somehow a let down by comparison. As for 3.5 second 0-60, so fuckin what. A 10spd 5.0 Mustang is under 4 seconds 0-60 if you can hook up and will be close to 1 second quicker in the 1/4 mile. Sorry but the Tran E is a pile of garbage regardless. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 8:40:45 PM EST
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Not a mid-engine.
"Fitting a transaxle that connects to the front-mounted engine via a carbon-fiber prop shaft shifts the balance of weight rearward. Ford claims the GTD has a nearly 50/50 front-rear balance" |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 8:51:52 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a mid-engine. "Fitting a transaxle that connects to the front-mounted engine via a carbon-fiber prop shaft shifts the balance of weight rearward. Ford claims the GTD has a nearly 50/50 front-rear balance" Although - it is possible to have a front-mid engine (most "mid engines" that we think of are technically rear-mid engines). The Citroen DS was one example of front-mid. Front-mid = engine is behind the front wheels, but in front of the cockpit/cabin. Bonus points if the transmission is in front of the engine. Rear-mid = engine is in front of the rear wheels, and behind the cockpit/cabin. Bonus points if the transmission is behind the engine (as in some Ferraris, etc.) |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 8:57:30 PM EST
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:00:13 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryUgh, those leaked pics were real? It may have amazing performance but not $300K worth, and it looks like the bastard child of a Mazda MX-8, a Camaro, and a fucking shark. Even if I could afford it, HARD PASS.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:09:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ugh, those leaked pics were real? It may have amazing performance but not $300K worth, and it looks like the bastard child of a Mazda MX-8, a Camaro, and a fucking shark. Even if I could afford it, HARD PASS. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/8660/std_jpg-2923376.JPG 300k is about 2x as much as they wanted for the factory run of 50 FP350S cars. No idea if those went for more than list prices. Guessing the factory GT4 Mustangs will be taking the place of what the FP350S was. Multimatic makes that too. Was hoping to hear of a turbo for power adder rather than a super charger. Tired of blowers on mustangs and really want to see a turbo. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:11:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've wanted an affordable mid-engine for a while now. I hoped it would come from Toyota, but it'd be nice if this was affordable and not electric. I wish Toyota would bring back the MR-2 |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:15:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish Toyota would bring back the MR-2 There are pictures of a new concept for the MR-2 that looks great. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:16:01 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ugh, those leaked pics were real? It may have amazing performance but not $300K worth, and it looks like the bastard child of a Mazda MX-8, a Camaro, and a fucking shark. Even if I could afford it, HARD PASS. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/8660/std_jpg-2923376.JPG Rx8 is beautiful and if they want the 24hr race every manufacturer should be making spinning Doritos |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:18:17 PM EST
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At least you get a Fast and Furious Wing. Just needs some bosozoku pipes to complete the look.
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:19:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are pictures of a new concept for the MR-2 that looks great. Would be nice with something other than a flat plane 4-banger . Maybe an inline 5 . They're talking more money than a brz . |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:20:00 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/440308/ford-mustang-gtd-215-64de23f10b5fa_jpg-2923368.JPG They made the Mustang ugly and want $300k for it. No thanks. I think it looks great. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:23:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are pictures of a new concept for the MR-2 that looks great. A bit "angular" to me, but they normally tone it down a little for production. Pretty cool (assuming we are talking the yellow one). |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:39:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a mid-engine. "Fitting a transaxle that connects to the front-mounted engine via a carbon-fiber prop shaft shifts the balance of weight rearward. Ford claims the GTD has a nearly 50/50 front-rear balance" Good catch! Ford is a joke. Corvette went to that layout in the mid 90's, at least they are going dual clutch. I think that was a mistake for corvette to not go DCT on the C7. Kind of funny how that article never once mentions the vette as its intended competition, and it's going to get dominated by the C8 in just about every category. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:47:17 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 300k for a mustang. Ho. Lee. Fuck. Jeebus. That’s insanely stupid. I’ll stick with my 2015GTPP or the ZL1 for fun. Or the Viper if I just want raw power. Out of storage space regardless. Ha. I do have to give them credit for one thing. Active Aero is a game changer. More sports cars could take advantage of it. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:48:35 PM EST
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:48:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That mustang they have now is GT4 I believe. Has a transaxle that I know. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sounds like Ford wants a platform to compete in IMSA against the 992 GT3 R and M4 GT3. I can't tell if this is mid front or mid rear. The M4 GT3 is mid front. The 911 GT3 R is mid rear. That mustang they have now is GT4 I believe. Has a transaxle that I know. Mid front. The unveil specifically said it's a GT3. Ford is building a FIA/IMSA homologation car. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:50:59 PM EST
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Quoted: The Ford Mustang lineup has never been stronger, as the recent motorsports push through special variants like the Mustang Dark Horse R has demonstrated. Additionally, The Blue Oval clearly intends to push boundaries as to what the Mustang brand represents in the modern era, with the upcoming Ford Mustang Mach-E Rally serving as evidence that the company won’t let its treasured nameplate stagnate in one particular lane. Later this week, the company is planning on essentially doubling down on that ethos with plans to debut the first-ever mid-engine Mustang, according to sources familiar with the matter. More at link, but no pics yet. https://fordauthority.com/2023/08/ford-to-debut-mid-engine-mustang-this-thursday-exclusive/amp/ Update: Leaked pics appear to be legit. Apparently it is being dubbed "GTD". Updated with leaked pics. It is supposed to debut at Pebble Beach today (Aug 17) "between 5pm and 7pm". I'm assuming that is Pacific time. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/152343/Screenshot_2023-08-17_085742_jpg-2922611.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/152343/Screenshot_2023-08-17_085758_jpg-2922614.JPG https://fordauthority.com/2023/08/ford-mustang-gtd-leaks-ahead-of-debut/ If Strike Industries built a car. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:52:36 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a mid-engine. "Fitting a transaxle that connects to the front-mounted engine via a carbon-fiber prop shaft shifts the balance of weight rearward. Ford claims the GTD has a nearly 50/50 front-rear balance" Mid engine only means the engine is between the axles. The M4 GT3 is a mid front also. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 9:55:37 PM EST
[#21]
So it's like a 944 Porsche
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Posted: 8/17/2023 10:02:43 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And yet it's mid 12 second 1/4 mile is somehow a let down by comparison. As for 3.5 second 0-60, so fuckin what. A 10spd 5.0 Mustang is under 4 seconds 0-60 if you can hook up and will be close to 1 second quicker in the 1/4 mile. Sorry but the Tran E is a pile of garbage regardless. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Umm, 0-60 in 3.5 seconds is damn fast. And yet it's mid 12 second 1/4 mile is somehow a let down by comparison. As for 3.5 second 0-60, so fuckin what. A 10spd 5.0 Mustang is under 4 seconds 0-60 if you can hook up and will be close to 1 second quicker in the 1/4 mile. Sorry but the Tran E is a pile of garbage regardless. "If you can hook up"....so no 10R80 Mustang off a prepped surface....and it still loses. The Mach-E GT will embarrass just about every RWD ICE car from a stoplight...hardly slow. You are right that it should run 11s in the 1/4. Ford has promised to open that up so we'll see. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 10:11:02 PM EST
[#23]
 The First-Ever Ford Mustang GTD | Ford  Making Mustang® History | Ford |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 10:11:49 PM EST
[#24]
It seems like a really capable car and I am glad Ford can be bothered to build it.
But I can't even pretend to get excited for a $300k Mustang that is probably only getting sold to hand picked individuals like they did with the last Ford GT. It's a "racecar for the street" that I will never see on the street.. lol Just another limited supply car that will be bought by youtubers then flipped for profit when they are ready for the next new thing. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 10:16:32 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mid engine only means the engine is between the axles. The M4 GT3 is a mid front also. So are most of not all rotaries |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 10:28:47 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ugh, those leaked pics were real? It may have amazing performance but not $300K worth, and it looks like the bastard child of a Mazda MX-8, a Camaro, and a fucking shark. Even if I could afford it, HARD PASS. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/8660/std_jpg-2923376.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Ugh, those leaked pics were real? It may have amazing performance but not $300K worth, and it looks like the bastard child of a Mazda MX-8, a Camaro, and a fucking shark. Even if I could afford it, HARD PASS. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/8660/std_jpg-2923376.JPG |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 10:32:02 PM EST
[#27]
@midcap come look at the 300k Ford
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Posted: 8/17/2023 10:51:15 PM EST
[#28]
don't like it, they should have stuck with the ford gt
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Posted: 8/17/2023 11:04:42 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mid front. The unveil specifically said it's a GT3. Ford is building a FIA/IMSA homologation car. It seems to be both. With the Dork Horse they revealed the GT4 entry. That thing came with a transaxle and I am betting they used that development to move towards this GTD for going towards GT3 as well. Would love to know how much of tbe underlying frame/suspension between the two cars is the same. Wonder what if any parts geometry are shared with actual mustangs. If only they never introduced that stupid EV crossover to forever tarnish the name of the Mustang. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 11:05:35 PM EST
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Ford you really need a mass firing.....why not call this thing by another name? And that electric Mustang is an abomination.
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Posted: 8/17/2023 11:20:54 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't the Aztek considered one of the biggest auto failures in history? Tell that to Lambo. Seen quite a few if them when I was in UAE. |
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Posted: 8/17/2023 11:38:24 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ford you really need a mass firing.....why not call this thing by another name? And that electric Mustang is an abomination. Very disappointed. |
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Posted: 8/18/2023 12:06:18 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's shit, but it will sell to rich boomers that think it's as hot as fake tits on a bimbo. Very disappointed. i happen to like fake tits on a bimbo. but i also have a mustang in the garage. and a corvette. so i'm all sorts of conflicted and fucked up 
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Posted: 8/18/2023 12:11:19 AM EST
[#34]
I see mostly non-racers and non-car people that are angry. lol
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Posted: 8/18/2023 12:13:46 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's shit, but it will sell to rich boomers that think it's as hot as fake tits on a bimbo. Very disappointed. |
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Posted: 8/18/2023 12:19:00 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryI get what Ford is trying to do here...but I don't care for it. As a Mustang lover, I guess I should be ecstatic, but my needle didn't move much. Now, as I said earlier, a stripped Mustang GT (call it an LX for nostalgia) with very little comfort goodies, perhaps even no rear seat, but with all the performance of a GT would definitely move the needle, especially if it were cheaper and lighter than the GT. |
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Posted: 8/18/2023 12:20:54 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see mostly non-racers and non-car people that are angry. lol I appreciate the racing aspect. But I was hoping for a mass market mid engine that is priced lower than a C8. That would have been interesting. |
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Posted: 8/18/2023 1:12:41 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's shit, but it will sell to rich boomers that think it's as hot as fake tits on a bimbo. Very disappointed. Ironic boomer post is ironic. |
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Posted: 8/18/2023 1:24:02 AM EST
[#39]
Damn $300K for a Mustang.
I wonder if Lego Technic took part in the design.
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Posted: 8/18/2023 1:49:28 AM EST
[#40]
I would be impressed if it was priced appropriately ($150K). Competing with a 992 GT3 that I’m sure is in every way more special, at probably $60-$100K over the Porsche price, is not a great idea for a Mustang. Will they sell? Probably. It’s a rare special edition. There are way too many Mustang lovers out there.
But I can’t imagine the fit and finish is anything Porsche like. Hard pass for $300K. Eta, I own a S550 Mustang too.
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Posted: 8/18/2023 3:28:33 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mid-engine is cool. Mid-engine Mustang is gay. They literally couldn't think of another name? Everything is a Mustang these days. This ^ A mid engine Mustang should be called GT-20. It's only half as good as the GT-40. ....In any case, no tree lawn, curb or crowd will ever be safe. |
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Posted: 8/18/2023 3:41:51 AM EST
[#42]
90% of these will wind up in some Arabs middle-eastern garage.
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Posted: 8/18/2023 3:42:27 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh god...Ford is going to royally fuck this up without questions. Remember that last cool thing Ford did? The 5.2L voodoo flat plane....well the retards at ford managed to make a flat plane v8 sound like a bag of smashed ass holes screaming for help. A flat plane is supposed to sound like a symphony of dead dinosaur juice exploding under pressure and FIRE! Instead they made a nasty sounding engine that sounds like a hoarse coyote is shitting out a stuck rock  I haven't laughed that hard in months!!! |
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Posted: 8/18/2023 3:48:19 AM EST
[#44]
Mid engine?
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Posted: 8/18/2023 4:06:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A dumbass at GM who wanted to produce granny cars.........the Fiero had alot more room to be developed It's a damn same it was more Chevette than Fiero, until the final production year. |
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Posted: 8/18/2023 4:56:55 AM EST
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Posted: 8/18/2023 5:47:25 AM EST
[#47]
lol
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Posted: 8/18/2023 6:12:41 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And yet it's mid 12 second 1/4 mile is somehow a let down by comparison. As for 3.5 second 0-60, so fuckin what. A 10spd 5.0 Mustang is under 4 seconds 0-60 if you can hook up and will be close to 1 second quicker in the 1/4 mile. Sorry but the Tran E is a pile of garbage regardless. My m3 beats those times for $88k |
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Posted: 8/18/2023 6:24:14 AM EST
[#49]
I'll never complain about the OEMs building hot rods. Hopefully the car is as capable as they are touting it to be. I don't mind the looks - styling is always subjective anyway.
At least it's powered by gasoline. I half-expected it to be an exotic electric car that would be really fast for 12 minutes, and then take 8 hours to recharge. |
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Posted: 8/18/2023 6:33:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 300k for a mustang. Ho. Lee. Fuck. Nothing I'll be buying. Heck, my wife told me that if I bought the $50k pickup truck I wanted, I'd have to keep working until the day I die. For a $300k Mustang I'd have to go for about 50 years past that!!!  |
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