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Posted: 11/25/2021 8:25:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The shooter was completely safe in the house when he decided to escalate. I'm gonna go with manslaughter here. Was he legally able to then bring a rifle outside on his own property? I believe that living in Texas he was. If so was he legally able to shoot the man that said "he would take that rifle from him and kill him with it when that same man grabbed the rifle". I agree that he made a bad decision by killing another man and one that he will live with for the rest of his life. But the self defense laws says he is innocent. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 8:27:55 AM EST
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I personally would not of handled it that way. But I can get this guy off on self-defense. I’m not gonna read the whole thread, but for those of you describing the dead guy as a trespasser, he elevated his status when he grabbed a hold of the homeowner’s gun .
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Posted: 11/25/2021 8:29:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That seems like it was a poor life decision for the shooter. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 8:44:35 AM EST
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I can’t read all 10 pages, but one thing folks usually miss in instances like this is who escalated it. The shooter brought a gun out and shot at the dead guy (his feet). That gives dead guy the right to defend himself. So him grabbing the gun is justified as self defense if shooter shooting at his feet was not self defense. This whole thing will center around whether or not the warning shot was justified self defense.
This is also why warning shots are a seriously bad idea; how can you claim you shot at his feet because you were in fear for your life? If you’re in fear for your life (imminent), you have time for a warning shot? Warning shots by their nature mean it’s not a life and death situation. If someone shoots at you without justification, you’re entitled to try and grab the gun. This case is also why I’ve said numerous times on this site, NEVER go outside with a gun. If you’re inside your home, stay there and call the police. Nothing good happens when you go outside with a gun. I personally think shooter was in the wrong here and will be someone’s prison bitch for the rest of his life. I don’t know Texas’s provocation law, but this is text book provocation imo. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 8:45:17 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I personally would not of handled it that way. But I can get this guy off on self-defense. I’m not gonna read the whole thread, but for those of you describing the dead guy as a trespasser, he elevated his status when he grabbed a hold of the homeowner’s gun .  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 8:52:13 AM EST
[#6]
Well at least he’s not going to be the kids stepdad.
And I like the horror and outrage. I have it on video, you did it… Really? No crying or scream? Not even a wtf? |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 8:55:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is also why warning shots are a seriously bad idea; how can you claim you shot at his feet because you were in fear for your life? If you're in fear for your life (imminent), you have time for a warning shot? Warning shots by their nature mean it's not a life and death situation. If someone shoots at you without justification, you're entitled to try and grab the gun. This case is also why I've said numerous times on this site, NEVER go outside with a gun. If you're inside your home, stay there and call the police. Nothing good happens when you go outside with a gun. Paragraph 1- warning shot or ND? |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 8:57:31 AM EST
[#8]
hes going to prison for forever.
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:00:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fully agree with the 2nd paragraph I quoted, but how do you handle that when someone else on your side, so to speak, is still outside? Paragraph 1- warning shot or ND? Doesn’t matter if it was an ND or a warning shot. Dead guy was justified in believing it was a warning shot/shot at situation. As for someone of your side is still outside, just come inside. If a loved one is being prevented from getting inside or being attacked, that’s one thing, but she could have walked inside…and should have. Trying to say dead guy was blocking her path won’t hold up. She didn’t even try. The guy was bitching about the time and that the boy should be handed over at 3:15. He didn’t threaten her physically at all. He wanted his boy. To that point, also tuff to claim trespassing if dead guy indeed arrived at the court appointed location at the court appointed time. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:01:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hes going to prison for forever. lol, no he’s not |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:03:05 AM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn’t matter if it was an ND or a warning shot. Dead guy was justified in believing it was a warning shot/shot at situation. As for someone of your side is still outside, just come inside. If a loved one is being prevented from getting inside or being attacked, that’s one thing, but she could have walked inside…and should have. Trying to say dead guy was blocking her path won’t hold up. She didn’t even try. The guy was bitching about the time and that the boy should be handed over at 3:15. He didn’t threaten her physically at all. He wanted his boy. To that point, also tuff to claim trespassing when if indeed arrived at the court appointed location at the court appointed time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fully agree with the 2nd paragraph I quoted, but how do you handle that when someone else on your side, so to speak, is still outside? Paragraph 1- warning shot or ND? Doesn’t matter if it was an ND or a warning shot. Dead guy was justified in believing it was a warning shot/shot at situation. As for someone of your side is still outside, just come inside. If a loved one is being prevented from getting inside or being attacked, that’s one thing, but she could have walked inside…and should have. Trying to say dead guy was blocking her path won’t hold up. She didn’t even try. The guy was bitching about the time and that the boy should be handed over at 3:15. He didn’t threaten her physically at all. He wanted his boy. To that point, also tuff to claim trespassing when if indeed arrived at the court appointed location at the court appointed time. And Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn’t have been there 
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:04:26 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn’t have been there I don’t get the reference? What part of my legal analysis do you disagree with? |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:06:35 AM EST
[#13]
IMO the shooter amped up the situation.
It may be legal to bring a rifle out to his porch, but it was not the brightest move IMO. From the videos posted here I did not see any physical harm being done by the kids dad, or did I hear any threats of physical harm. Was the dad upset, yes, I get it, sounds like the mother is playing fuck fuck game with the ex by using the son, again not a good idea. When the shooter went back inside the house, then came out with a firearm, he amped things up, shot off a shot into the ground, then the fight started, then the dad was shot and killed. I think all parties present were in shock and disbelief at what happened. IMO it was a bad shoot. There will be no winners here and now the kid gets to look at mom and her boyfriend and know that they had a hand in his dads death, hope the kid gets counseling he is going to need it. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:08:40 AM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t get the reference? What part of my legal analysis do you disagree with? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn’t have been there I don’t get the reference? What part of my legal analysis do you disagree with? The part where someone is on their own property and shouldn’t be allowed to pick up a gun to protect themselves and said property. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:09:25 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t get the reference? What part of my legal analysis do you disagree with? Are you an attorney? |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:10:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IMO the shooter amped up the situation. It may be legal to bring a rifle out to his porch, but it was not the brightest move IMO. From the videos posted here I did not see any physical harm being done by the kids dad, or did I hear any threats of physical harm. Was the dad upset, yes, I get it, sounds like the mother is playing fuck fuck game with the ex by using the son, again not a good idea. When the shooter went back inside the house, then came out with a firearm, he amped things up, shot off a shot into the ground, then the fight started, then the dad was shot and killed. I think all parties present were in shock and disbelief at what happened. IMO it was a bad shoot. There will be no winners here and now the kid gets to look at mom and her boyfriend and know that they had a hand in his dads death, hope the kid gets counseling he is going to need it. Ya after green shirt advanced on him, assaulted him by chest bumping him, then threatened to take the gun from him and use it on him. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:12:02 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you an attorney? I was a criminal defense attorney for about 7 years. That was my first job out of law school. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:13:28 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The part where someone is on their own property and shouldn’t be allowed to pick up a gun to protect themselves and said property. I never said that. If dead guy was at the court appointed location at the court appointed time, how are you gonna argue that in court? |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:14:23 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kyle retreated and then continued to attempt to disengage. This guy was able to disengage but just came back armed. Looks to me that he became the aggressor. Should have pulled the lady in and called the cops. Shot the guy if he tries to come in. What's with all these "disengage' and "escalate" posts? This guy was at his residence (even if it is temporary) and had NO DUTY to retreat. He can stand on that porch with a rifle all day. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:14:43 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The part where someone is on their own property and shouldn’t be allowed to pick up a gun to protect themselves and said property. You don’t see how in this case it was completely uncalled for? I can’t imagine anyone seeing that video and not realizing how he escalated the situation by grabbing that shitty rifle I’ll bet my left nut if he would have been less of an insecure pussy then dead guy would have yelled about his son for awhile longer then left If dead guy was such a threat then why did he have no problem leaving his GF out there for a bit while he went to get it? He didn’t grab that gun to save life’s he did it to act tough and was hoping his bluff wouldn’t have been called |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:14:47 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was a criminal defense attorney for about 7 years. That was my first job out of law school. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are you an attorney? I was a criminal defense attorney for about 7 years. That was my first job out of law school. Not calling you a liar, but that seems out of the ordinary. At least around here the DA’s office is a revolving door with newly licensed attorneys trying to gain experience. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:15:36 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well at least he’s not going to be the kids stepdad. And I like the horror and outrage. I have it on video, you did it… Really? No crying or scream? Not even a wtf? Listen to all of the video. At the end she gets out of her vehicle and finds out he's dead and loses her shit. Nobody else does, but she does. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:16:26 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I never said that. If dead guy was at the court appointed location at the court appointed time, how are you gonna argue that in court? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The part where someone is on their own property and shouldn’t be allowed to pick up a gun to protect themselves and said property. I never said that. If dead guy was at the court appointed location at the court appointed time, how are you gonna argue that in court? It’s a civil issue for court. Green shirt knew that and chose to remain there and cause a scene. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:16:42 AM EST
[#24]
It’s going to be interesting to see what shooter’s ex-wife has to say about all this.
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:17:34 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You don’t see how in this case it was completely uncalled for? I can’t imagine anyone seeing that video and not realizing how he escalated the situation by grabbing that shitty rifle I’ll bet my left nut if he would have been less of an insecure pussy then dead guy would have yelled about his son for awhile longer then left If dead guy was such a threat then why did he have no problem leaving his GF out there for a bit while he went to get it? He didn’t grab that gun to save life’s he did it to act tough and was hoping his bluff wouldn’t have been called Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The part where someone is on their own property and shouldn’t be allowed to pick up a gun to protect themselves and said property. You don’t see how in this case it was completely uncalled for? I can’t imagine anyone seeing that video and not realizing how he escalated the situation by grabbing that shitty rifle I’ll bet my left nut if he would have been less of an insecure pussy then dead guy would have yelled about his son for awhile longer then left If dead guy was such a threat then why did he have no problem leaving his GF out there for a bit while he went to get it? He didn’t grab that gun to save life’s he did it to act tough and was hoping his bluff wouldn’t have been called Obviously the firearm was needed as after it was produced he was assaulted and threatened by now dead guy after he refused to leave the property |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:17:53 AM EST
[#26]
Hmm, tough call. I need more info on this one. Shootee looks like he is there to pick up his kids, and his ex-wife is either hiding them in the residence or somewhere else. Shooter definitely escalated an already tense situation by bringing out the firearm, but that’s his right. The warning shot looks like it was in response to shootee shoving the firearm away from him, so another escalation. It didn’t look like shootee was going for the gun until shooter took a shot at his feet, so very little imminent threat that shooter didn’t create. I’d say bad but possibly legal shoot depending on jury selection, lawyer quality, and other facts.
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:17:54 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's with all these "disengage' and "escalate" posts? This guy was at his residence (even if it is temporary) and had NO DUTY to retreat. He can stand on that porch with a rifle all day. Yea he can legally the point was it was a stupid move and it lead to a death that was completely avoidable It possible to do something that’s stupid and malicious even if it’s legal |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:18:11 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not calling you a liar, but that seems out of the ordinary. At least around here the DA’s office is a revolving door with newly licensed attorneys trying to gain experience. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are you an attorney? I was a criminal defense attorney for about 7 years. That was my first job out of law school. Not calling you a liar, but that seems out of the ordinary. At least around here the DA’s office is a revolving door with newly licensed attorneys trying to gain experience. He was a defense attorney. Not a prosecutor.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:18:52 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not calling you a liar, but that seems out of the ordinary. At least around here the DA’s office is a revolving door with newly licensed attorneys trying to gain experience. What the actual fuck are you talking about? A DA is a prosecutor. I said I was a criminal defense attorney. I didn’t say I was a DA. I wasn’t a public defender. I was a private criminal defense attorney, you know, the kind who are really good at their jobs. I don’t even know how many trials I’ve taken to verdict. Your posts seem to get less and less informed as you go. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:19:17 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From the videos posted here I did not see any physical harm being done by the kids dad, or did I hear any threats of physical harm. Are you deaf and blind? He says "you better use it because I'm going to take it from you and kill you" and then tries to do exactly that and gets killed. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:19:46 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fairly. But from the sound of it, the shooter was kidnapping his children. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, Mr. 9mm carbine is going to regret that series of decisions...forever. Maybe not. Isn't Texas Castle Doctrine pretty forgiving for the home owner? Fairly. But from the sound of it, the shooter was kidnapping his children. This. Not sure how this plays out, for one bringing out the gun was totally unnecessary and two not turning over the child at the appointed time and place. Seems like bitch mom should be shopping for some Black Friday deals for lots of soap on a rope for Kyle. @Aimless 
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:19:52 AM EST
[#32]
In NC, Kyle would go to jail.
In Texas, he walks. This happened on Nov. 5th and they haven't even convened a grand jury yet. I think this was a bad shoot in ethical terms. I wouldn't have handled it that way. But it was legal. You gotta wonder how much longer that law will stay on the books with the demographic changes in Texas, though. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:20:14 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He was a defense attorney. Not a prosecutor. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/vladimir-putin-laughing_zpsov82lsef_GIF-129.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are you an attorney? I was a criminal defense attorney for about 7 years. That was my first job out of law school. Not calling you a liar, but that seems out of the ordinary. At least around here the DA’s office is a revolving door with newly licensed attorneys trying to gain experience. He was a defense attorney. Not a prosecutor. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/vladimir-putin-laughing_zpsov82lsef_GIF-129.gif Still unusual for the AO to jump straight into a defense attorney fresh out of law school. Granted he is an attorney and can practice what ever area of law he chooses. Again, Not calling him a liar |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:20:20 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fairly. But from the sound of it, the shooter was kidnapping his children. Plus one should have come back with a bigger gun |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:20:28 AM EST
[#35]
At first I was thinking bad shoot. But…
Baby mama was still outside with enraged ex. Shooter was on own property (right?). Ex threatened and physically engaged shooter despite presence of gun and warning shot. He’ll end up in court, but I bet he walks. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:21:19 AM EST
[#36]
Just reading a few articles seems the police and Texas law agree... Shooter will not go to jail. Still the whole situation seemed unnecessary to me.
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:22:00 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the actual fuck are you talking about? A DA is a prosecutor. I said I was a criminal defense attorney. I didn’t say I was a DA. I wasn’t a public defender. I was a private criminal defense attorney, you know, the kind who are really good at their jobs. I don’t even know how many trials I’ve taken to verdict. Your posts seem to get less and less informed as you go. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not calling you a liar, but that seems out of the ordinary. At least around here the DA’s office is a revolving door with newly licensed attorneys trying to gain experience. What the actual fuck are you talking about? A DA is a prosecutor. I said I was a criminal defense attorney. I didn’t say I was a DA. I wasn’t a public defender. I was a private criminal defense attorney, you know, the kind who are really good at their jobs. I don’t even know how many trials I’ve taken to verdict. Your posts seem to get less and less informed as you go. I’M SAYING IT IS FUCKING UNSUAL FOR SOMEONE FRESH OUT OF LAW SCHOOL NOT TO HIRE IN AS A ADA. IT IS EXTREMELY UNUSUAL FOR A BRAND NEW ATTORNEY TO BE A DEFENSE ATTORNEY. Clear enough? |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:22:36 AM EST
[#38]
Quoted: Have we done this one yet? Searched but didn't see anything. Brief synopsis: Victim apparently comes to his ex-wife's house to pick up their kid since it's his turn based on the custody arrangements, things get heated, then ex-wife's current husband comes outside with a 9mm carbine and shoots him during the altercation. https://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/local-news/wife-of-chad-read-releases-video-of-deadly-shooting-ssj/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=klbk&fbclid=IwAR1ObHAFrsEklQHtNVWxdqb2ZY32UNsEDfDffAGPpO-K2ixoE4Qzj0yaMFM  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzv4JzsoU9k |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:23:17 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea he can legally the point was it was a stupid move and it lead to a death that was completely avoidable It possible to do something that’s stupid and malicious even if it’s legal I'm not arguing what was morally right or wrong. There are people in this thread (mostly out of state people) stating he's going to jail for murder and I strongly disagree. Now my personal opinion is that the world would be better if everyone in the video was dead. That has no bearing on how I see this playing out legally though. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:25:40 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: well your wrong that guy is going to spend a long time in jail . |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:25:42 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Obviously the firearm was needed as after it was produced he was assaulted and threatened by now dead guy after he refused to leave the property You said it yourself he was assaulted after it was produced do you honestly believe that dead guy was going to kill someone he was angry about his son I’m not talking about legality here short small dick energy guy acted in self defense by law but he put himself into this situation for no reason other then to posture |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:25:54 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bad shoot. FPNI. He's going to find out he SHOULD have stayed the hell out of it. 100% not self defense and he escalated it. But he was bad ass in front of his woman. [who was playing child custody fvck fvck games] |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:25:55 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’M SAYING IT IS FUCKING UNSUAL FOR SOMEONE FRESH OUT OF LAW SCHOOL NOT TO HIRE IN AS A ADA. IT IS EXTREMELY UNUSUAL FOR A BRAND NEW ATTORNEY TO BE A DEFENSE ATTORNEY. Clear enough? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not calling you a liar, but that seems out of the ordinary. At least around here the DA’s office is a revolving door with newly licensed attorneys trying to gain experience. What the actual fuck are you talking about? A DA is a prosecutor. I said I was a criminal defense attorney. I didn’t say I was a DA. I wasn’t a public defender. I was a private criminal defense attorney, you know, the kind who are really good at their jobs. I don’t even know how many trials I’ve taken to verdict. Your posts seem to get less and less informed as you go. I’M SAYING IT IS FUCKING UNSUAL FOR SOMEONE FRESH OUT OF LAW SCHOOL NOT TO HIRE IN AS A ADA. IT IS EXTREMELY UNUSUAL FOR A BRAND NEW ATTORNEY TO BE A DEFENSE ATTORNEY. Clear enough?  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:27:25 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Still unusual for the AO to jump straight into a defense attorney fresh out of law school. Granted he is an attorney and can practice what ever area of law he chooses. Again, Not calling him a liar Well, you are calling me a liar. Jumping straight to private defense is difficult, not many people are able to do it. It gets easier when you graduate with honors and book numerous classes in law school. There are people on this board who know me personally. So if you’d like to keep digging, have at it. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:27:29 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not calling you a liar, but that seems out of the ordinary. At least around here the DA’s office is a revolving door with newly licensed attorneys trying to gain experience. What the actual fuck are you talking about? A DA is a prosecutor. I said I was a criminal defense attorney. I didn’t say I was a DA. I wasn’t a public defender. I was a private criminal defense attorney, you know, the kind who are really good at their jobs. I don’t even know how many trials I’ve taken to verdict. Your posts seem to get less and less informed as you go. I’M SAYING IT IS FUCKING UNSUAL FOR SOMEONE FRESH OUT OF LAW SCHOOL NOT TO HIRE IN AS A ADA. IT IS EXTREMELY UNUSUAL FOR A BRAND NEW ATTORNEY TO BE A DEFENSE ATTORNEY. Clear enough? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/200878/E16FEAC7-9328-4711-9185-5CC6C4449CE7_jpe-2180493.JPG Still trying to figure out where in what I originally said he picked up I was saying he was a DA.. SMH… |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:29:15 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Guy hasn't been charged yet. If was going to be charged wouldn't he have been arrested already? Fucked up situation. When assholes collide I mean he was banging the judge. seems like he has a leg up on the whole justice system |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:29:22 AM EST
[#47]
I think technically a bad shoot with massive dumbassery all around.
Probably what tilts the scale is that the shooter was already separated by quite a bit of space from the dead guy and he takes the time to aim and fire. Kind of hard to see what dead guy is doing the moment of shooting. |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:30:16 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think trsspasser man had to die. I don't think pcc man is a good person. I don't think pcc man is guilty of murder in 1st. I think voluntary maslaughter is still a hard sell given the facts. The facts: * The tresspasser man was asked to leave the property * The tresspasser man advances on pcc man * The tresspasser man lays hands on pcc when not pointed at him * The tresspasser man continues to be agressive even after an ill advised warning shot from pcc man Better move for pcc man would have been to retrieve gun, reiterated request for tresspasser man to leave then shut the f*sk up while waiting for leo to arive. I think that's a fairly balanced take. Just curious how the dead guy being there to pick up his son for a court ordered custody arraignment factors in for you? I don't know if it has a legal effect on the whole trespassing thing, but morally it puts the shooter in the wrong camp to me. The only other thing is that the dead guy didn't touch the gun until the after the warning shot, which I think you have backwards. If he had a right to be there (and I'm not sure he necessarily does), and someone shoots at him, wouldn't grabbing the gun be self defense? |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:30:25 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, you are calling me a liar. Jumping straight to private defense is difficult, not many people are able to do it. It gets easier when you graduate with honors and book numerous classes in law school. It also gets easier when your law review article wins a few awards. Gets a little easier when you win two moot court competitions. So like, when you know what the fuck you’re talking about your career takes off fast.  There are people on this board who know me personally. So if you’d like to keep digging, have at it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still unusual for the AO to jump straight into a defense attorney fresh out of law school. Granted he is an attorney and can practice what ever area of law he chooses. Again, Not calling him a liar Well, you are calling me a liar. Jumping straight to private defense is difficult, not many people are able to do it. It gets easier when you graduate with honors and book numerous classes in law school. It also gets easier when your law review article wins a few awards. Gets a little easier when you win two moot court competitions. So like, when you know what the fuck you’re talking about your career takes off fast. There are people on this board who know me personally. So if you’d like to keep digging, have at it. Let’s see. Is it unusual for for someone to jump straight into defense? Around here Yes. Am I calling you a liar, No. And good on you for members knowing you personally. I fail to understand why you are purposely trying to turn this into a dick measuring contest by me simply making a statement. Happy Thanksgiving. I wish you and your family well Sir!  |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:30:36 AM EST
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a very common situation where the ex obstructs visitation.
Even manipulating the new "Mr. Wonderful" to fight the ex. In actuality the ex wife orchestrated the whole thing and got 2 people destroyed. One is her and the other is new latest boyfriend. Bravo. Well done. Women are manipulative to the 9th degree. Meanwhile, nobody even looks at her. |
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