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Posted: 4/25/2022 1:22:31 AM EDT
[#1]
All of that shit will be in Pakistan India and China within the month. Assuming that it is actually going to Ukrainian forces. I highly doubt that it is going to Ukrainian forces tho.
Then again it might be considering everyone is insane. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 1:26:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which switchblades? 300 or 600? Quote HistoryQuoted: Which switchblades? 300 or 600? Both. 100 of 300s and 10 of 600s. M4s? Or AKs? For small arms. 7.62x39 or 5.45 or 5.56? Most likely M4s and 5.56. It's army stocks, I seriously doubt US Army stockpiles any 7.62x39 or 5.45. Chechens have already been photographed with M4s. Chechens are all about the Gucci, so they get stuff like that at home. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 1:30:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All of that shit will be in Pakistan India and China within the month. Assuming that it is actually going to Ukrainian forces. I highly doubt that it is going to Ukrainian forces tho. Then again it might be considering everyone is insane. How do your doubts explain dozens of videos of Ukrainian forces using that equipment to send Russians to kingdom come? |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 1:31:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2022 1:53:39 AM EDT
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Why is ITAR even a thing if we voluntarily give restricted gear to every shithole in the world?
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Posted: 4/25/2022 1:56:20 AM EDT
[#6]
At this rate it will start having an effect on our ability to defend the US eventually.
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:01:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At this rate it will start having an effect on our ability to defend the US eventually. You could eliminate 5 of 7 military services with a marginal effect on US defense. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:03:41 AM EDT
[#8]
183,000 arty rounds?
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:06:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 183,000 arty rounds? 400+ per cannon per day. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:08:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We bought that shit for killing Russians in the first place. This is why I don't actually have much of a problem giving it to them. I'm not interested in us fighting the Russians and don't remotely consider Ukraine worth WWIII over. But I'm OK with sending them weapons, cash, and intel. We supply the weapons, they supply the manpower and effort. The Russian army gets badly degraded and exposed, we get to study it in action, and it's tied up in Ukraine - totally unable to act anywhere else. Every missile they fire in Ukraine is one they won't fire somewhere else, and every Russian who dies there won't be bothering anyone else anywhere else. And maybe they just end up losing the war in the end. Pretty good deal for us, when you think about it. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:08:56 AM EDT
[#11]
Well, hopefully we get rid of all the woodland and UCP grey digital camo stuff out of the inventory.
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:12:57 AM EDT
[#12]
None of this will fall in the wrong hands. None. That’s not happening when you give it away to one of the most corrupt regime on earth.
All is well |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:19:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None of this will fall in the wrong hands. None. That’s not happening when you give it away to one of the most corrupt regime on earth. All is well We give Mexico military equipment all the time and they are literally more corrupt than Ukraine. Or even Italy which is fantastically corrupt. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:28:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None of this will fall in the wrong hands. None. That’s not happening when you give it away to one of the most corrupt regime on earth. All is well You mean US? Cause I don't think I heard of any multi-billion dollar boondoggles in Ukraine and here they hardly even raise an eyebrow anymore. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:30:00 AM EDT
[#15]
Some point in the future the US will be fighting against it, at least some of it.
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:31:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some point in the future the US will be fighting against it, at least some of it. Those Stinger missles is what concerns me. 
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:34:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some point in the future the US will be fighting against it, at least some of it. That’s war. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:35:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those Stinger missles is what concerns me. When was the last time a Ukrainian Igla knocked down an airliner? |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:36:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When was the last time a Ukrainian Igla knocked down an airliner? Who knows where they will end up. Worth a hell of a lot on the black market. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:39:08 AM EDT
[#20]
We're all in this together...
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:49:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At this rate it will start having an effect on our ability to defend the US eventually.  ...
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:53:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't kid yourself. This is going to end poorly for Ukraine and for some of the nearby countries. I wouldn't be surprised if a nuke ends up landing in Germany or even The UK. If Putin is as sick as the news says he is, there's no way he's not going out with a bang. Meanwhile, Ireland is accepting an unlimited amount of Ukrainian refugees and letting the citizens know that they may be forced to harbor them in their homes and businesses. We'll probably start to see more of this from other EU countries and wouldn't be surprised if the WH doesn't start thinking of doing the same (LA tried it with the homeless). It's being reported that the US doesn't have the resources necessary to replenish the armaments we "lent" to Zelensky. Too many sole source contracts and dependence on foreign raw materials. As for Zelensky, he's a dirtbag criminal that is sacrificing his citizens in exchange for fame and fortune. Nothing is good about this war. There are no heroes, only villains. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Woo proxy war! Don't kid yourself. This is going to end poorly for Ukraine and for some of the nearby countries. I wouldn't be surprised if a nuke ends up landing in Germany or even The UK. If Putin is as sick as the news says he is, there's no way he's not going out with a bang. Meanwhile, Ireland is accepting an unlimited amount of Ukrainian refugees and letting the citizens know that they may be forced to harbor them in their homes and businesses. We'll probably start to see more of this from other EU countries and wouldn't be surprised if the WH doesn't start thinking of doing the same (LA tried it with the homeless). It's being reported that the US doesn't have the resources necessary to replenish the armaments we "lent" to Zelensky. Too many sole source contracts and dependence on foreign raw materials. As for Zelensky, he's a dirtbag criminal that is sacrificing his citizens in exchange for fame and fortune. Nothing is good about this war. There are no heroes, only villains. Why is Zelensky a criminal ? I don't trust the guy, and I doubt I'd vote for him as he seems a little too much of the lefty globalist brand for my taste but I am unaware of criminal activity. As far as his people what is he supposed to do ? Give up to Russia and let them all be slaves just so there won't be a war ? Why nuke Germany ? I think if he nuked anyone at this point it would be Ukraine. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 2:55:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why I don't actually have much of a problem giving it to them. I'm not interested in us fighting the Russians and don't remotely consider Ukraine worth WWIII over. But I'm OK with sending them weapons, cash, and intel. We supply the weapons, they supply the manpower and effort. The Russian army gets badly degraded and exposed, we get to study it in action, and it's tied up in Ukraine - totally unable to act anywhere else. Every missile they fire in Ukraine is one they won't fire somewhere else, and every Russian who dies there won't be bothering anyone else anywhere else. And maybe they just end up losing the war in the end. Pretty good deal for us, when you think about it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We bought that shit for killing Russians in the first place. This is why I don't actually have much of a problem giving it to them. I'm not interested in us fighting the Russians and don't remotely consider Ukraine worth WWIII over. But I'm OK with sending them weapons, cash, and intel. We supply the weapons, they supply the manpower and effort. The Russian army gets badly degraded and exposed, we get to study it in action, and it's tied up in Ukraine - totally unable to act anywhere else. Every missile they fire in Ukraine is one they won't fire somewhere else, and every Russian who dies there won't be bothering anyone else anywhere else. And maybe they just end up losing the war in the end. Pretty good deal for us, when you think about it. This is kinda how I feel about it as well. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 3:21:14 AM EDT
[#24]
Meh, cheaper than American lives. 50M rounds of small arms ammo annoys me on a personal level, lol
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Posted: 4/25/2022 3:27:29 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who knows where they will end up. Worth a hell of a lot on the black market. Yet the Stugna and Igla aren’t being used by terrorists. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 3:33:37 AM EDT
[#26]
This, Precisely.
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Posted: 4/25/2022 3:36:04 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We bought that shit for killing Russians in the first place. This. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 3:37:47 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just think of what we could have done with all that on our southern border. The issue isn’t money on the southern border… |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 3:43:19 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At this rate it will start having an effect on our ability to defend the US eventually. At the rate of a tenth of a percent of the annual defense budget? |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 3:50:54 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The issue isn’t money on the southern border… Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just think of what we could have done with all that on our southern border. The issue isn’t money on the southern border… It was tongue in cheek, I wish we would put as much effort into defending our own country as we are into dumping money into Ukraine.
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Posted: 4/25/2022 4:17:24 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At the rate of a tenth of a percent of the annual defense budget? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: At this rate it will start having an effect on our ability to defend the US eventually. At the rate of a tenth of a percent of the annual defense budget? Not the money, How many javelins and stingers do we keep in inventory for our own forces use? |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 4:43:45 AM EDT
[#32]
Remind me again why ITAR is a thing?
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Posted: 4/25/2022 4:53:33 AM EDT
[#33]
113's...really?
 .50 cal will go through one of those long ways. I would stick to LPC's. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 6:19:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As for Zelensky, he's a dirtbag criminal that is sacrificing his citizens in exchange for fame and fortune. Just exactly WTF is he supposed to do when invaded by a foreign power? Lulz. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 6:46:04 AM EDT
[#35]
Ost
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:05:05 AM EDT
[#36]
Since Trump was removed from office they've been itching to get the Military Industrial shit back into production. Like desperate to get this shit back on track, NATO , supporting wars around the world. Fucking desperate
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:11:34 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And 25% of this disappeared as soon as we dropped it off. 100% of this is getting sold off to fund some commanders' expatriation to a mansion with a view. They need it in the east, where they don't really have any ability to get it to. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:11:40 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They should not be telling what there sending over there. Stupid! This. Dumb thing to do tantamount to having to tell the whole room you spent on a birthday gift only with real world effects. Dumbasses. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:14:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: None of this will fall in the wrong hands. None. That’s not happening when you give it away to one of the most corrupt regime on earth. All is well We aren't donating it to switzerland or russia 
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:15:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just think of what we could have done with all that on our southern border. Quote HistoryQuoted: Just think of what we could have done with all that on our southern border. How exactly would suicide drones, ATGMs, ant tank rockets, and artillery be used on the border? Quoted: We bought that shit for killing Russians in the first place. Looks like it's being used for that after all  Quoted: And 25% of this disappeared as soon as we dropped it off. Into russian foreheads and tank tops. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:17:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And 25% of this disappeared as soon as we dropped it off. 50% of that will be monetized into kickbacks for Congress. There will be no delivery. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:18:19 AM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:19:54 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We bought that shit for killing Russians in the first place. Well, according to the video, the Russians have gotten their shit pushed in! |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:21:43 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just think of what we could have done with all that on our southern border. @sandboxmedic According to that Peter Zeihan video posted recently, that’s where our next war will be, the Mexican drug cartels! |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:22:22 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And 25% of this disappeared as soon as we dropped it off. I'm sure that's factored in |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:23:50 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: State Department, Not the Pentagon??? State is just the front for foreign military sales. You walk into that section in an embassy and most of the folks there are uniformed service members. It’s just more palatable when it looks like it’s coming from State. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:25:13 AM EDT
[#47]
The real loser here is the sucker ass American taxpayer/working class tax slave.
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:26:16 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why I don't actually have much of a problem giving it to them. I'm not interested in us fighting the Russians and don't remotely consider Ukraine worth WWIII over. But I'm OK with sending them weapons, cash, and intel. We supply the weapons, they supply the manpower and effort. The Russian army gets badly degraded and exposed, we get to study it in action, and it's tied up in Ukraine - totally unable to act anywhere else. Every missile they fire in Ukraine is one they won't fire somewhere else, and every Russian who dies there won't be bothering anyone else anywhere else. And maybe they just end up losing the war in the end. Pretty good deal for us, when you think about it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We bought that shit for killing Russians in the first place. This is why I don't actually have much of a problem giving it to them. I'm not interested in us fighting the Russians and don't remotely consider Ukraine worth WWIII over. But I'm OK with sending them weapons, cash, and intel. We supply the weapons, they supply the manpower and effort. The Russian army gets badly degraded and exposed, we get to study it in action, and it's tied up in Ukraine - totally unable to act anywhere else. Every missile they fire in Ukraine is one they won't fire somewhere else, and every Russian who dies there won't be bothering anyone else anywhere else. And maybe they just end up losing the war in the end. Pretty good deal for us, when you think about it. I think that’s where most people are at, including me. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:29:43 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was tongue in cheek, I wish we would put as much effort into defending our own country as we are into dumping money into Ukraine.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:36:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remind me again why ITAR is a thing? ITAR only applies to lower people. Elites do what they want when they want. |
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