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While the all-new Bronco arrives on the scene with some awesome new features to take on the Wrangler, it still will only be powered by turbocharged inline-four and V6 offerings. .....but now thanks to recent spy photos, it looks like the Jeep brand is answering many enthusiasts’ wishes by stuffing the 6.4-liter 392 cubic-inch HEMI V8 into the Wrangler. View Quote Great. So they're offering an expensive engine upgrade in their most expensive trim Dont they turbo the 3.6 for some of their vehicles? |
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Quoted: In the absence of competition, companies don't have much incentive to innovate, invest, or even try. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They don't really have a choice. They woke up one day and found themselves in an arms race. The 2.7L EB is significantly better than anything currently under the hood of the JL/JT, and FCA has to respond to that. They could've set the bar when the JK was introduced. We'd be getting the 3.5 in the Bronco instead of the 2.7.... In the absence of competition, companies don't have much incentive to innovate, invest, or even try. See also: Intel |
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Trying to come up with excuses not to sell my 4Runner for one of these and it's getting tough
Wonder how much a Base 2-door with the 2.7L and Sasquatch will run |
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Quoted: I'm really conflicted on what package to get. I'm thinking 2dr wildtrak. View Quote That’s what I reserved, but I’m sort of wishing I did a badlands instead, I wonder if I’ll be able to change it without losing my place in line... Main reason being, I don’t know if I’ll be able to handle looking at the empty place in the hero switch pack where the sway bar disconnect button should be |
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Quoted: That’s what I reserved, but I’m sort of wishing I did a badlands instead, I wonder if I’ll be able to change it without losing my place in line... Main reason being, I don’t know if I’ll be able to handle looking at the empty place in the hero switch pack where the sway bar disconnect button should be View Quote I definitely know that feeling, but I will likely never need it. |
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Quoted: That’s what I reserved, but I’m sort of wishing I did a badlands instead, I wonder if I’ll be able to change it without losing my place in line... Main reason being, I don’t know if I’ll be able to handle looking at the empty place in the hero switch pack where the sway bar disconnect button should be View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm really conflicted on what package to get. I'm thinking 2dr wildtrak. That’s what I reserved, but I’m sort of wishing I did a badlands instead, I wonder if I’ll be able to change it without losing my place in line... Main reason being, I don’t know if I’ll be able to handle looking at the empty place in the hero switch pack where the sway bar disconnect button should be Yes you can change it. Basically the reservation is just a space saved for you when ordering begins Ford will contact you and give you a code or something and you will place your order how you want the Bronco to be. Color,package,options,etc Once the order is placed thats it,you get what you ordered |
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View Quote I saw Fred Williams and hoped the Bronco was about to appear on DED. |
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Sasquatch looks good.
What's the weird roof on the middle one? I hope thats not their version of a soft top....looks horrible. Also, weird purple paint all over it? All in all, I love it. I wish I could justify not having a bed. I would love to get a 2dr |
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Saw this on I70 near Denver today. Bronco? Probably doing high-altitude emissions testing.
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Quoted: Saw this on I70 near Denver today. Bronco? Probably doing high-altitude emissions testing. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/489002/IMG_0466_jpg-1534274.JPG View Quote ugggg that soft top is hideous. How could they get it so wrong? |
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Quoted: ugggg that soft top is hideous. How could they get it so wrong? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Saw this on I70 near Denver today. Bronco? Probably doing high-altitude emissions testing. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/489002/IMG_0466_jpg-1534274.JPG ugggg that soft top is hideous. How could they get it so wrong? Looks like repurposed test mule camo to me, not a real soft top. |
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Quoted: Saw this on I70 near Denver today. Bronco? Probably doing high-altitude emissions testing. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/489002/IMG_0466_jpg-1534274.JPG View Quote What possible reason would there be to have to roof camouflaged since the thing has already been launched and we know what the roof options are going to be? Have we not seen official photos of the soft top and I just can’t remember that fact? |
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Quoted: What possible reason would there be to have to roof camouflaged since the thing has already been launched and we know what the roof options are going to be? Have we not seen official photos of the soft top and I just can’t remember that fact? View Quote Looks like maybe some kind of pop up tent rooftop they are covering there. |
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Quoted: Flex remains the same but it will increase the independence from side to side more when disconnected vs the Jeep when disconnected gives more flex. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: With swaybar disco, how much flex would that IFS get? Flex remains the same but it will increase the independence from side to side more when disconnected vs the Jeep when disconnected gives more flex. One thing I just heard on the Truck Show podcast was that the models that ship with 35” tires have their travel limited to accommodate them. They were talking about how it will be interesting to see how it works out in the real world with different uses. Maybe you’d be better off with 33’s and full travel for fast stuff and 35’s with less travel for rocks. |
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Quoted: Is this for sure? I can't find anything on the website and that would suck if they force you into the auto just to get the samsquanch package. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Goddam it. 10 speed is a requirement with the sasquatch package as well. The package can't be paired with the manual. I want a 4 door, 2.7, manual trans sasquatch, but you can't get either the 2.7 or the sasquatch package with the manual trans. Is this for sure? I can't find anything on the website and that would suck if they force you into the auto just to get the samsquanch package. Yep that's what they published you want Sasquatch you gotta take the 10sp auto... |
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Quoted: ugggg that soft top is hideous. How could they get it so wrong? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Saw this on I70 near Denver today. Bronco? Probably doing high-altitude emissions testing. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/489002/IMG_0466_jpg-1534274.JPG ugggg that soft top is hideous. How could they get it so wrong? |
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Quoted: You can't possibly believe that is actually the production soft top. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Saw this on I70 near Denver today. Bronco? Probably doing high-altitude emissions testing. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/489002/IMG_0466_jpg-1534274.JPG ugggg that soft top is hideous. How could they get it so wrong? Joe Biden does... |
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Quoted: One thing I just heard on the Truck Show podcast was that the models that ship with 35” tires have their travel limited to accommodate them. They were talking about how it will be interesting to see how it works out in the real world with different uses. Maybe you’d be better off with 33’s and full travel for fast stuff and 35’s with less travel for rocks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: With swaybar disco, how much flex would that IFS get? Flex remains the same but it will increase the independence from side to side more when disconnected vs the Jeep when disconnected gives more flex. One thing I just heard on the Truck Show podcast was that the models that ship with 35” tires have their travel limited to accommodate them. They were talking about how it will be interesting to see how it works out in the real world with different uses. Maybe you’d be better off with 33’s and full travel for fast stuff and 35’s with less travel for rocks. That's a shit trade off to make for the larger tires. |
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Quoted: One thing I just heard on the Truck Show podcast was that the models that ship with 35” tires have their travel limited to accommodate them. They were talking about how it will be interesting to see how it works out in the real world with different uses. Maybe you’d be better off with 33’s and full travel for fast stuff and 35’s with less travel for rocks. View Quote IMO, it wont be ideal with 35" or larger tires due to the IFS design and the room in the fenders. 35s will be fine if you don't plan to do any real off-road. Lift kits wont help. The only way to get increased travel would be a long arm kit of sorts. If you put wheels on with any increase in negative offset then you would also be reducing the amount of travel because rubbing would increase. You wouldn't want to do this for an off-road car to begin with because it translates in to a few issues. Different story for street. |
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Quoted: What possible reason would there be to have to roof camouflaged since the thing has already been launched and we know what the roof options are going to be? Have we not seen official photos of the soft top and I just can’t remember that fact? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Saw this on I70 near Denver today. Bronco? Probably doing high-altitude emissions testing. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/489002/IMG_0466_jpg-1534274.JPG What possible reason would there be to have to roof camouflaged since the thing has already been launched and we know what the roof options are going to be? Have we not seen official photos of the soft top and I just can’t remember that fact? I mean, there are hundreds of accessories they haven't yet launched. Could be why they are hiding something. Maybe they are hiding a slantback, or even better, a slantback hardtop, HMMWV-style? |
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Why can I do a build & price for the Bronco Sport but not the regular Bronco
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Lots of great video content being posted to the bronco6g YouTube channel.
There’s a few videos walking through the accessories specifically, and because they’re ford accessories, you can finance them as part of the total vehicle financing. Very smart move for ford, there’s people that will load these things to the tits with winches/racks/etc and ford credit is gonna be laughing all the way to the bank. I want a set of those door with the holes in them for sure, they look great. I’m still on the fence with color for my eventual 2 door though. I really like that launch orange color, but I’m worried it’ll be too close to yellow. And I FUCKING HATE yellow anything. Iconic silver, cactus grey, and maybe Area 51 are also very much in the running. |
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Quoted: Highly doubt it, that’s the same disguise that all the test mules have been using: https://cdn.static-carindigo.com/images/content/2689288169d0031ef8083f3d2a24d668.jpeg Plus, its hard to believe they’d be developing a RTT that thin. It’d be an order of magnitude thinner than anything currently on the market, even among hard shells. View Quote It is more likely the camo is stuck tight and won’t come off without ripping the top or they don’t have soft top material yet and the camo is keeping the elements out. |
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Saw the test mule again up in Silverthorne, CO and caught a short video. Vid sucks due to my bug splattered windshield.
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Quoted: Saw the test mule again up in Silverthorne, CO and caught a short video. Vid sucks due to my bug splattered windshield. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/489002/broncoscreenshot_jpg-1545939.JPG View Quote Did you see or notice anything that has not yet been reported? To me, from the angle of the photo, those fender flares look like they were added on without any consideration for matching up to body styling/contours. |
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Quoted: Did you see or notice anything that has not yet been reported? To me, from the angle of the photo, those fender flares look like they were added on without any consideration for matching up to body styling/contours. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Saw the test mule again up in Silverthorne, CO and caught a short video. Vid sucks due to my bug splattered windshield. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/489002/broncoscreenshot_jpg-1545939.JPG Did you see or notice anything that has not yet been reported? To me, from the angle of the photo, those fender flares look like they were added on without any consideration for matching up to body styling/contours. They are like that on every version. |
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Quoted: Did you see or notice anything that has not yet been reported? To me, from the angle of the photo, those fender flares look like they were added on without any consideration for matching up to body styling/contours. View Quote If it ends up being purchased by Jeepers, they will immediately change the flares anyway. That, and put a pink "Silly boys, trucks are for girls" sticker on the back. |
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Quoted: Did you see or notice anything that has not yet been reported? To me, from the angle of the photo, those fender flares look like they were added on without any consideration for matching up to body styling/contours. View Quote I was going 70 mph at the time, so I just focused on the road and pointed the camera at the Bronco, so I didn't notice anything! |
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Quoted: I was going 70 mph at the time, so I just focused on the road and pointed the camera at the Bronco, so I didn't notice anything! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Did you see or notice anything that has not yet been reported? To me, from the angle of the photo, those fender flares look like they were added on without any consideration for matching up to body styling/contours. I was going 70 mph at the time, so I just focused on the road and pointed the camera at the Bronco, so I didn't notice anything! Fair enough. |
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Jeep is issuing
https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-jeep-is-training-its-dealerships-to-take-on-t-1844792236 |
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Quoted: Jeep is issuing https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/jrjhnrdyp0f1p42ssndh.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/zeas4swlwutlr80veoyr.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/whik2yodeszgtiqpecn5.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/mflwgr0ghovwhe5noqlx.jpg https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-jeep-is-training-its-dealerships-to-take-on-t-1844792236 View Quote I feel bad enough as it is for anyone who relies on car salesmen to educate them on what they're buying, I can't imagine having to let them talk you out of the competition ETA: Buy a Wrangler instead of a Bronco because of this concept vehicle that has a 0.87% chance of being built |
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Hokey Crap Bullwinkle...just when you thought the DNC convention was full of hot air...Jeep propaganda falls from the sky...when will their planes start flying over and dropping leaflets...?
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Quoted: I feel bad enough as it is for anyone who relies on car salesmen to educate them on what they're buying, I can't imagine having to let them talk you out of the competition View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Jeep is issuing https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/jrjhnrdyp0f1p42ssndh.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/zeas4swlwutlr80veoyr.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/whik2yodeszgtiqpecn5.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/mflwgr0ghovwhe5noqlx.jpg https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-jeep-is-training-its-dealerships-to-take-on-t-1844792236 I feel bad enough as it is for anyone who relies on car salesmen to educate them on what they're buying, I can't imagine having to let them talk you out of the competition Yeah... I'm not sure how Jeep sales guys are supposed to use that information. Are they supposed to wait until customers mention the Bronco, or are they supposed to just start throwing shade unprovoked? |
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lol the Jeep “we’re pissing our pants” info packet is funny.
One thing I’m starting to worry about now that more info is coming to light is the lack of ventilated seats. That seems like a MASSIVE oversight on Ford’s part. I want to be able to cruise top/doors off on a hot day while my ass is comfortably air conditioned... |
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I’m going to bet the two aren’t cross shopped much in that direction.
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Quoted: I’m going to bet the two aren’t cross shopped much in that direction. View Quote The Wrangler and Bronco? Really? |
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Quoted: Quoted: I’m going to bet the two aren’t cross shopped much in that direction. The Wrangler and Bronco? Really? Yeah, in the direction of “we are really interested in the Bronco, but here we stand at the Jeep dealer with a level of product knowledge that can be swayed by a salesperson with a pamphlet”. Plenty of sales to be stolen from the Wrangler from people who were interested in that type of vehicle prior to the Bronco. Hard to run a bait (Bronco) and switch (Wrangler) for those that are new to the segment. |
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I think are pretty close to each other which that jeep brochure seems to agree with because it's basically all bullshit and other than the solid axle is close enough for the vast majority of buyers to not care. I think that Ford is definitely going to be taking Wrangler customers away.
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Quoted: I think are pretty close to each other which that jeep brochure seems to agree with because it's basically all bullshit and other than the solid axle is close enough for the vast majority of buyers to not care. I think that Ford is definitely going to be taking Wrangler customers away. View Quote I think there is no question that the Bronco will take buyers away from Jeep. I hope they take a whole lot of them, so that it forces Jeep to up their game. |
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