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Quoted: Not sure why everyone keeps saying this. They look pretty huge to me https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75325/Screenshot_20220419-155155_Facebook-2431805.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It looks small, I thought it would be bigger. Not sure why everyone keeps saying this. They look pretty huge to me https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75325/Screenshot_20220419-155155_Facebook-2431805.jpg Lol you go to your room right now, mister. |
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Quoted: And is a great example of how Ford made a monumental marketing fuck-up. The Bronco Sport should have been named anything but Bronco Sport. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In this thread 87% of the people bitching about the new Bronco don't know the difference between the bronco sport and the bronco. And is a great example of how Ford made a monumental marketing fuck-up. The Bronco Sport should have been named anything but Bronco Sport. You do understand that marketing’s job is to sell vehicles, right? Tying that wannabe Bronco to all of the hype of the full size absolutely makes sense. |
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Quoted: Isn’t the sport model the non-sporty one! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In this thread 87% of the people bitching about the new Bronco don't know the difference between the bronco sport and the bronco. Isn’t the sport model the non-sporty one! The sport model is the hood rat version. Just like polo sport, hilfiger sport, anything sport. It’s for the poors. |
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Quoted: Uh, the bottom one looks like a clown car? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Let's just ignore the fact you're comparing 2 different classes of vehicles which is stupid in itself. What aspect looks like a cheaply made tin can? https://i.ibb.co/FgJxvmX/Grid-Art-20220626-162703841.jpg Uh, the bottom one looks like a clown car? it looks like a modernized classic Bronco... What are you driving? |
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Quoted: That color and trim combo looks surprisingly good! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: A buddy just picked up his 2 door its a 2 adults, + 2 oompaloompas ride https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3097/4503B543-727C-423E-B8E8-801D0DC9F8DD-2431871.jpg That color and trim combo looks surprisingly good! I was just gonna say how terrible the colors were. And with black wheels. Jfc that’s a travesty. |
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I don’t know 1st gens tend to frequently have major issues. I’ve had some Japanese first gens that were pretty bad.
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Quoted: Quoted: A buddy just picked up his 2 door its a 2 adults, + 2 oompaloompas ride https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3097/4503B543-727C-423E-B8E8-801D0DC9F8DD-2431871.jpg Yeah, awful. Green and tan with a black top and wheels? Guarantee the sales people were laugh their asses off once he left the showroom. “I thought there was no way in hell we’d get that one sold!” |
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Quoted: That doesn't even scratch the surface... 2.3 turbo issues, roof leaks, roof cracks, soft top seams splitting, hood misalignments, cowlings not allowing hood to open, transmission issues, rust upon delivery, various fluids not filled to required levels, air and water leaks around windows... This thing is a complete POS. NHTSA is investigating. View Quote So, just like an old-school Bronco. |
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Front tie rods, thin as a pencil, are easily snapped in two off road.
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You all do remember how much the 1st gen 3.5EB engines were giant turds right?
Seems like FCA and GM actually have their shit together. Only issue I can recall from them two are bad lifters, which get replaces on the GM and the 8 speed, that just needs new fluid. |
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Quoted: Front tie rods, thin as a pencil, are easily snapped in two off road. View Quote I’m sure yours would snap too if you weren’t running p-rated 31s. The last land cruiser that could back up the “master race” business was the 80 series. Every generation since has moved closer into the large luxury SUV (Tahoe/suburban) category. |
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Saw a full sized one last week on the road, they must be pretty rare because its the only one I have ever seen. Its neat.
The smaller sized ones are more common and look like shit. |
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All the cool prototypes over the years and the finished product....
Other than some cool off road modes for those who actually would use them... I would have to say the hype did not live up to the product delivered as is. I'm glad its out, but I was hoping for a little more true to form mixed with with today's tech. But.....that may not have been Ford's vision to begin with. Nice to see them. Glad people are happy, just not for me. |
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View Quote C&D also praises Kia and Hyundai... |
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A friend of mine bought one a few months ago. He loves the thing. I'm putting a 3.5" lift in it tomorrow at work.
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Quoted: My daily drive is a 2012 Pathfinder. It was the last year Nissan built it on a truck frame. The following years were crossover vehicles. The new 2022 Pathfinder is once again on a truck frame. I'll wait until reviews and feedback is in, but I may consider a 2023. View Quote This makes me happy. I love the look of the new Pathfinder and the owner of an early build one said the 8-speed transmission was awesome. I was afraid they kept the old structure. My ex had a 4-dr Bronco and is ambivalent. There’s a reason she’s my ex… TC |
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Quoted: That doesn't even scratch the surface... 2.3 turbo issues, roof leaks, roof cracks, soft top seams splitting, hood misalignments, cowlings not allowing hood to open, transmission issues, rust upon delivery, various fluids not filled to required levels, air and water leaks around windows... This thing is a complete POS. NHTSA is investigating. View Quote Fucking lol. Okay. A couple reports apparently means they all have issues. You see the complaints because people who are happy don’t usually post the positive experiences. The amount of issues are tiny in comparison to the amount of happy buyers. NHTSA is investigating because it was pushed by small amount of engine failures. No other reason |
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Quoted: Yeah, awful. Green and tan with a black top and wheels? Guarantee the sales people were laugh their asses off once he left the showroom. “I thought there was no way in hell we’d get that one sold!” View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A buddy just picked up his 2 door its a 2 adults, + 2 oompaloompas ride https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3097/4503B543-727C-423E-B8E8-801D0DC9F8DD-2431871.jpg Yeah, awful. Green and tan with a black top and wheels? Guarantee the sales people were laugh their asses off once he left the showroom. “I thought there was no way in hell we’d get that one sold!” It’s retro, Jethro. |
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depends on the model/trim line. the mid and above look pretty good. base models are like retarded step children
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I wanted a Bronco bad, but their wokeness put me to sleep, so a built out 4Runner or GX460 will be my next vehicle, which sucks because I really wanted a removable top, but Ford and Jeep are both woke.
I’d rather have no wind blowing through my hair, than the wind of a man with no principles. |
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My SIL bought one and loves it. Within a week of buying it they drove from GA to the Grand Canyon. That was last year. They leave for Niagara Falls on Wednesday. They haven't had any issues. I would never buy the initial year of production of any manufacturer.
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Quoted: Oh, well that clears it up as to why it’s fucking ugly, View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It’s retro, Jethro. Oh, well that clears it up as to why it’s fucking ugly, I mean, you’re not wrong. There were some uggo color schemes and decals back in the day. Ferd’s been trying hard to harness nostalgia with the Broncos and by and large, doing a pretty good job of it IMHO. Some of it’s awesome, this is middle of the road, and I’ve seen really bad versions. It is what it is. |
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Quoted: Fucking lol. Okay. A couple reports apparently means they all have issues. You see the complaints because people who are happy don’t usually post the positive experiences. The amount of issues are tiny in comparison to the amount of happy buyers. NHTSA is investigating because it was pushed by small amount of engine failures. No other reason View Quote Way more than a couple. |
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Quoted: Quoted: That color and trim combo looks surprisingly good! Eddie Bauer Edition? Or, L.L. Bean? TC No clue! But to me it looks retro 60's/70's, a color combo I never thought I would see on a new vehicle. |
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I wouldn’t have bout the first year of a covid car that is for damn sure.
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I went wheeling with a guy who had a new Sasquatch Bronco, and it absolutely slayed. It beat a couple decently modded FJCs and 4Runners in the group and one JKUS on 35s. It didn't beat my Rubi, but mine has a ton of good mods and it's on 37s. But the Bronco earned all our respect. Very impressive for IFS.
The difference maker was the locking front diff. I'd say it's more important than even a solid front axle up front. It would surely beat a non-modded 200 LC on any trail. The bronco might not go 400k miles, but it will win in the trails against anything but a rubicon Jeep or a SAS'ed rig/trailer shitbox. Side note: the Broncos that seem to be bending tie rods are all on 35s or larger. It's just too much tire for an IFS steering system. I know a guy with a REALLY modded FJ Cruiser on 39s who put the LC200 series R&P on it and he's still blowing through tie rods. |
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Quoted: Not that it is an issue but the pathfinder has been a unibody for 20 years. Usually when someone says a truck frame they mean body on frame. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My daily drive is a 2012 Pathfinder. It was the last year Nissan built it on a truck frame. The following years were crossover vehicles. The new 2022 Pathfinder is once again on a truck frame. I'll wait until reviews and feedback is in, but I may consider a 2023. Not that it is an issue but the pathfinder has been a unibody for 20 years. Usually when someone says a truck frame they mean body on frame. Yep. Nissan's website says the Pathfinder is FWD or AWD so I doubt it is back to body on frame. |
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Not a problem one with the wife's Bronco. Picked it up last August.
Attached File Of course, all you're reading about are issies that people post. Not many people like us go post about not having issues. |
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Lol. Just got to the part where OP drives a land cruiser.
I'm out of this thread. Reliable |
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Quoted: I went wheeling with a guy who had a new Sasquatch Bronco, and it absolutely slayed. It beat a couple decently modded FJCs and 4Runners in the group and one JKUS on 35s. It didn't beat my Rubi, but mine has a ton of good mods and it's on 37s. But the Bronco earned all our respect. Very impressive for IFS. The difference maker was the locking front diff. I'd say it's more important than even a solid front axle up front. It would surely beat a non-modded 200 LC on any trail. The bronco might not go 400k miles, but it will win in the trails against anything but a rubicon Jeep or a SAS'ed rig/trailer shitbox. Side note: the Broncos that seem to be bending tie rods are all on 35s or larger. It's just too much tire for an IFS steering system. I know a guy with a REALLY modded FJ Cruiser on 39s who put the LC200 series R&P on it and he's still blowing through tie rods. View Quote The Land Cruiser was never intended to be a rock crawler. It's an overlander. What vehicle would you trust to drive through the African bush or the outback in Australia, a Land Cruiser or Bronco??? |
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Quoted: Side note: the Broncos that seem to be bending tie rods are all on 35s or larger. It's just too much tire for an IFS steering system. I know a guy with a REALLY modded FJ Cruiser on 39s who put the LC200 series R&P on it and he's still blowing through tie rods. View Quote I knew that was going to be common before it was ever released, and 35s are stock tires lol |
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Quoted: The Land Cruiser was never intended to be a rock crawler. It's an overlander. What vehicle would you trust to drive through the African bush or the outback in Australia, a Land Cruiser or Bronco??? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I went wheeling with a guy who had a new Sasquatch Bronco, and it absolutely slayed. It beat a couple decently modded FJCs and 4Runners in the group and one JKUS on 35s. It didn't beat my Rubi, but mine has a ton of good mods and it's on 37s. But the Bronco earned all our respect. Very impressive for IFS. The difference maker was the locking front diff. I'd say it's more important than even a solid front axle up front. It would surely beat a non-modded 200 LC on any trail. The bronco might not go 400k miles, but it will win in the trails against anything but a rubicon Jeep or a SAS'ed rig/trailer shitbox. Side note: the Broncos that seem to be bending tie rods are all on 35s or larger. It's just too much tire for an IFS steering system. I know a guy with a REALLY modded FJ Cruiser on 39s who put the LC200 series R&P on it and he's still blowing through tie rods. The Land Cruiser was never intended to be a rock crawler. It's an overlander. What vehicle would you trust to drive through the African bush or the outback in Australia, a Land Cruiser or Bronco??? The FJ40 certainly was, and the rest up to the 80 were as well. Triple-locked diffs aren't on older LCs for dusty rutted roads. This argument always amuses me because, even in overlanding, you run into lots of rocks. Sometimes pretty substantial ones. Later model land cruisers have terrible approach/breakover/departure. That shit can get you stuck as bad as breaking a part will. About your question, I would pick the land cruiser but not because of performance. Strictly because I might have a prayer at finding a spare part somewhere in africa. Something is bound to break on both of them. If there were tons of ranger platform parts out there I'd call it a 50/50 tossup. |
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Quoted: I knew that was going to be common before it was ever released, and 35s are stock tires lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Side note: the Broncos that seem to be bending tie rods are all on 35s or larger. It's just too much tire for an IFS steering system. I know a guy with a REALLY modded FJ Cruiser on 39s who put the LC200 series R&P on it and he's still blowing through tie rods. I knew that was going to be common before it was ever released, and 35s are stock tires lol Apparently you can stuff 37s on them with no cutting. |
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Ford really screwed up naming that little SUV Bronco at all. They should have left Bronco alone and named the small ones something else. They did the same thing on the Mustang.
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