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Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:37:37 PM EDT
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C-SPAN confirms, McCarthy does not have the votes.

Fifth speaker vote expected.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:38:23 PM EDT
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Fucking love it.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:38:37 PM EDT
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I think he can only lose 4.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:40:08 PM EDT
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I think he can only lose 4.
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I think he can only lose 4.

Yeah, the margin is very thin. Donalds already got enough to spoil it.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:40:29 PM EDT
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And how much of that was due to the democrat propaganda machine?
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Nothing can be voted on without a Speaker. Every time I can remember the government being shutdown, the voters have taken it out on the Republicans and voted for Democrats. I for one would like to see fewer democrats in Congress.

And how much of that was due to the democrat propaganda machine?


Irrelevant.  Dems own the media and too many stupid people believe what the media tells them to.  Independent right wing media would blame the MAGA people for the Dems gaining power.  No one in any significant media outlet would point out that Republicans had 2 years to prepare for this moment, and McCarthy had months to work with the hold outs (and that the ones refusing to vote for him gave him several months warning).  They definitely wouldn't point out that RNC was too busy scamming them for money instead of building some sort of coalition.

None of this matters tho, it will be long over by the next election and people won't care anymore.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:41:11 PM EDT
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Whi did Donals just vote for?
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:42:46 PM EDT
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Let me know when it gets to the 87th round.

Bigger_Hammer
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:42:57 PM EDT
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What matters now is if there are more than 20 votes for Donalds, or if a R or D breaks for the other party.   Only thing at stake for the rest of this vote.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:44:46 PM EDT
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himself
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:45:33 PM EDT
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Trump's lunatic fringe has broken from him and has become its own uncontrollable beast.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:46:18 PM EDT
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I support this. The Republican establishment must understand that business as usual isn’t what the people want.

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Good
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:47:21 PM EDT
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MTG voting McCarthy

That seems strange.  I thought she would be one of the one's to sway from the establishment.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:48:05 PM EDT
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Thank you.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:48:46 PM EDT
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MTG voting McCarthy

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She's been Kevin from the beginning. He promised to put her on a committee, finally.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:49:22 PM EDT
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Lunatic?

Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:51:50 PM EDT
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This shit show tells you everything you need to know, the party is hopeless and pathetic under its current leadership . Let's keep talking about Trump though
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:55:54 PM EDT
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McCarthy will eventually be Speaker.

But he gonna learn today.

The holdouts aren't requesting anything unreasonable - and "IT'S MY TURN" is not enough.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:56:47 PM EDT
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Aren't those the same thing, though.  Trump and his "leadership" are hopeless and pathetic.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:56:50 PM EDT
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The establishment promised her an important committee position, so she is backing the establishment now.  No one changes Washington, Washington changes them.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:59:09 PM EDT
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They should demand he gets his shit out of the speakers office and fully restore his office. The “it’s her turn” was insulting when Hillary did it just as it’s insulting when he does it. What an ass.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 1:59:38 PM EDT
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More like Constitutionalists are no longer under his thumb and free of his stupidity.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:00:19 PM EDT
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This is coming down to a battle of vote your conscience vs. vote for the lesser of two evils.
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Lol. Boo hoo, some people are standing up to the uniparty. Stop whining. This is the first big stage advancement since 2016, it’s glorious
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:01:00 PM EDT
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Trump is the leadership. He's backing McCarthy and has anointed him with his spray tan blessing of an endorsement.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:03:07 PM EDT
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I'm sick of this crap. Vote for Mickey Mouse and get on with firing IRA agents.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:03:58 PM EDT
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How dare people demand bills be read before being voted on. Those lunatics demanding that are crazy!!!!  

It is the Freedom Caucus not voting for McCarthy because he is not doing anything that they have asked for.

The Freedom Caucus is pushing a rules change proposal that would require all legislation to go through committee and be public for more than 72 hours before being voted on.  The group also is pushing for a ban on bills being tied together and passed en bloc.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:05:40 PM EDT
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Aren't those the same thing, though.  Trump and his "leadership" are hopeless and pathetic.
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Not at all, Trump is old news and he isn't in a position to do anything. Just a former president until he wins the primary and that's a big if .
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:06:19 PM EDT
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I'm sick of this crap. Vote for Mickey Mouse and get on with firing IRA agents.
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Did any Republican candidate campaign on the issue of firing the IRS agents?  Nope.  Did the leadership bring that up as a party issue before the election?  Nope.  Then it is not going to happen.  They are dangling that out there to manipulate people after staying quiet about it when it really mattered.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:07:03 PM EDT
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I called my Reps office in DC and they actually answered and spoke to me.  I gave my opinion and asked he not support McCarthy.

Gus Bilirakis  202-225-5755


Everyone should be calling their reps office to make your voice heard.  It may not have any effect but its the least you can do to be heard.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:07:58 PM EDT
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Lol. Boo hoo, some people are standing up to the uniparty. Stop whining. This is the first big stage advancement since 2016, it’s glorious
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I'm not whining, I'm actually enjoying it but that doesn't mean it's not a shit show .
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:08:36 PM EDT
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How dare people demand bills be read before being voted on. Those lunatics demanding that are crazy!!!!  

It is the Freedom Caucus not voting for McCarthy because he is not doing anything that they have asked for.

The Freedom Caucus is pushing a rules change proposal that would require all legislation to go through committee and be public for more than 72 hours before being voted on.  The group also is pushing for a ban on bills being tied together and passed en bloc.
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and pushing to destroy the Office of Congressional ETHICS, in order to get their vote. I thought we all say they're all corrupt? And now those "freedom" guys want even less oversight on the government?
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:09:32 PM EDT
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So McCarthy wins the vote and they keep voting until he looses.

Wat am I missing here?
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:10:25 PM EDT
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Trump is the leadership. He's backing McCarthy and has anointed him with his spray tan blessing of an endorsement.
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Trump is not the leadership, he's nothing more than a spectator.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:10:43 PM EDT
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So McCarthy wins the vote and they keep voting until he looses.

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Nothing happening is better than the status quo.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:15:31 PM EDT
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I'm sick of this crap. Vote for Mickey Mouse and get on with firing IRA agents.
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No IRS agents are getting fired. In fact, very little is going to happen. Dems control the Senate, and FJB is not going to sign a bill firing 1 government employee. And if you think KM will threaten to shut the government over it, you're crazy.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:16:35 PM EDT
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Final count for the 4th round

McCarthy (R): 201
Jeffries (D): 212
Donalds (R): 20
Others: 0
Present: 1

Victoria Spartz of Indiana voting Present.

No majority won. 5th round pending.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:17:40 PM EDT
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I hope it just keeps going on and they do nothing for the next 2 years.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:18:35 PM EDT
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Why don't they use Electronic Voting? Much quicker
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:19:59 PM EDT
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MTG voting McCarthy

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She conveniently voted for the socialism bill that gave her 183k in ppp funds.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:20:30 PM EDT
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She conveniently voted for the socialism bill that gave her 183k in ppp funds.
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That seems strange.  I thought she would be one of the one's to sway from the establishment.




She conveniently voted for the socialism bill that gave her 183k in ppp funds.



She may have gotten some other concessions as well

The Uniparty will win, they've been doing this for a long time
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:21:43 PM EDT
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And a guaranteed outcome.

Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:23:21 PM EDT
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Day 2 of the schadenfreude is delicious
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 2:23:46 PM EDT
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I think the system can only record Y/N/P.
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