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Link Posted: 10/4/2023 5:35:11 AM EST
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It’s going to be a communist democrat that becomes speaker . No GOPer is going to take that job .

Why doesn’t Matt Gaetz take the speaker role?
Link Posted: 10/4/2023 5:46:14 AM EST
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What about the one eyed butt pirate from Texas?
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All it takes is 5 purple Republicans to side with Democrats to elect a Democrat speaker (Hakeem Jeffries), or a D-friendly Republican.

"Not possible!" you might say. No, it was 100% impossible when the Speaker position was filled.

Are we going to go another 15 votes with no Speaker elected? What happens if the next shutdown looms closer and there is no speaker? Maybe those purple Republicans start to consider the overtures of the Democrats.

...or maybe they don't, and the government shuts down and it is (correctly) blamed on the GOP who couldn't get their own house in order.

Of course, there's no chance that could have repercussions in 2024.


Best case is we end up with a Speaker who doesn't want the job like Jordan. Worst case is Jeffries. Either way, the odds of repercussions in 2024 are not 0.


Literally everything you just wrote is baseless nonsense.

If any R member votes for a D speaker, then he deserves to lose in 2024 and will. Which is why that won’t happen.


What about the one eyed butt pirate from Texas?


F that guy
Link Posted: 10/4/2023 5:50:06 AM EST
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RINOs aren’t conservatives. I’m to the point now that slim majorities are simply Band-Aids on a severed limb. We do need some bold actions and we need more radical, bold (actual) constitutional conservatives who aren’t prostitutes to lobbyists and bedfellows with Marxist democrats.

Gaetz is doing exactly what 99.87% of GD always bitches about, that nobody does anything, and when somebody takes bold action they fucking capitulate, waffle, and get scared about “losing”. Here’s a hint: we haven’t been winning shit in a long time. I think most Americans with two braincells are starting to understand the Uniparty and the how much they’re getting fucked regardless of Marxist democrats or RINOs in leadership. It’s time to dump a little tea into the RINO cesspool, give the finger to the establishment, and get enough radicals in congress to start bitch-slapping the American-hating democrats. Decorum needs to die.

Statesmanship is a losing strategy. Compromising at the expense of the American taxpayer needs to come to an end. Negotiating with the enemy (democrats) should be verboten. Tolerating RINOs should be punished, it’s time for actual conservative radicals to go RINO hunting and start putting heads on stakes. I want fighters not compromisers…politics needs to get as ugly as our economy, border, crime stats, inflation, and corrupt bureaucracies.

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Really? Because Republicans currently control SCOTUS, Ds have never been more unpopular, Rs are on the winning side of a host of issues (family, trans, woke), Rs have never been more trusted to handle the economy since '91 and are in the catbird seat going into 2024.

But now's time for "bold moves" where the outcome is completely unknown?

RINOs aren’t conservatives. I’m to the point now that slim majorities are simply Band-Aids on a severed limb. We do need some bold actions and we need more radical, bold (actual) constitutional conservatives who aren’t prostitutes to lobbyists and bedfellows with Marxist democrats.

Gaetz is doing exactly what 99.87% of GD always bitches about, that nobody does anything, and when somebody takes bold action they fucking capitulate, waffle, and get scared about “losing”. Here’s a hint: we haven’t been winning shit in a long time. I think most Americans with two braincells are starting to understand the Uniparty and the how much they’re getting fucked regardless of Marxist democrats or RINOs in leadership. It’s time to dump a little tea into the RINO cesspool, give the finger to the establishment, and get enough radicals in congress to start bitch-slapping the American-hating democrats. Decorum needs to die.

Statesmanship is a losing strategy. Compromising at the expense of the American taxpayer needs to come to an end. Negotiating with the enemy (democrats) should be verboten. Tolerating RINOs should be punished, it’s time for actual conservative radicals to go RINO hunting and start putting heads on stakes. I want fighters not compromisers…politics needs to get as ugly as our economy, border, crime stats, inflation, and corrupt bureaucracies.

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Solid Post.
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Really? Because Republicans currently control SCOTUS, Ds have never been more unpopular, Rs are on the winning side of a host of issues (family, trans, woke), Rs have never been more trusted to handle the economy since '91 and are in the catbird seat going into 2024.

But now's time for "bold moves" where the outcome is completely unknown?

RINOs aren't conservatives. I'm to the point now that slim majorities are simply Band-Aids on a severed limb. We do need some bold actions and we need more radical, bold (actual) constitutional conservatives who aren't prostitutes to lobbyists and bedfellows with Marxist democrats.

Gaetz is doing exactly what 99.87% of GD always bitches about, that nobody does anything, and when somebody takes bold action they fucking capitulate, waffle, and get scared about "losing". Here's a hint: we haven't been winning shit in a long time. I think most Americans with two braincells are starting to understand the Uniparty and the how much they're getting fucked regardless of Marxist democrats or RINOs in leadership. It's time to dump a little tea into the RINO cesspool, give the finger to the establishment, and get enough radicals in congress to start bitch-slapping the American-hating democrats. Decorum needs to die.

Statesmanship is a losing strategy. Compromising at the expense of the American taxpayer needs to come to an end. Negotiating with the enemy (democrats) should be verboten. Tolerating RINOs should be punished, it's time for actual conservative radicals to go RINO hunting and start putting heads on stakes. I want fighters not compromisers politics needs to get as ugly as our economy, border, crime stats, inflation, and corrupt bureaucracies.

ROCK6



Solid Post.
Yep.  MFing bingo.  You have to start the fight at some point.  Might as well be now.
Link Posted: 10/4/2023 6:03:49 AM EST
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It's a hideaway office off the House floor. Former Speakers have always been given one. It's not the actual office for the active Speaker.

Do people seriously believe this kind of stuff? That McCarthy and the GOP would be scared to actually make Pelosi move out of the Speaker's office after her party lost control?

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I know that.

But it's was STILL HIS office and letting her stay makes him look weak.

Should have have booted her out the day he took power.
Link Posted: 10/4/2023 6:05:46 AM EST
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How does firing a shitty speaker lead to 250-260 dems controlling the House?

11 fucking pages, and nobody making this kind of claim has offered anything even approaching a cogent explanation. And no, vague and alarmist assumptions about the 2024 cycle is not a cogent explanation.
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Sounds like you want the Dems to control about 250 - 260 seats in the House. Do you live on Planet Earth?


How does firing a shitty speaker lead to 250-260 dems controlling the House?

11 fucking pages, and nobody making this kind of claim has offered anything even approaching a cogent explanation. And no, vague and alarmist assumptions about the 2024 cycle is not a cogent explanation.


Yep pages of chicken little's OMG THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!

Anything that upsets the Uincart in Washington is good for the American people!!
Link Posted: 10/4/2023 6:07:33 AM EST
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I hate the idea of Trump as president but somehow the thought of him as speaker makes me smile.

They'd never get the votes though.
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You never know, maybe more than you think would vote for him just to keep him out of the White House.
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Really? Because Republicans currently control SCOTUS, Ds have never been more unpopular, Rs are on the winning side of a host of issues (family, trans, woke), Rs have never been more trusted to handle the economy since '91 and are in the catbird seat going into 2024.

But now's time for "bold moves" where the outcome is completely unknown?

RINOs aren’t conservatives. I’m to the point now that slim majorities are simply Band-Aids on a severed limb. We do need some bold actions and we need more radical, bold (actual) constitutional conservatives who aren’t prostitutes to lobbyists and bedfellows with Marxist democrats.

Gaetz is doing exactly what 99.87% of GD always bitches about, that nobody does anything, and when somebody takes bold action they fucking capitulate, waffle, and get scared about “losing”. Here’s a hint: we haven’t been winning shit in a long time. I think most Americans with two braincells are starting to understand the Uniparty and the how much they’re getting fucked regardless of Marxist democrats or RINOs in leadership. It’s time to dump a little tea into the RINO cesspool, give the finger to the establishment, and get enough radicals in congress to start bitch-slapping the American-hating democrats. Decorum needs to die.

Statesmanship is a losing strategy. Compromising at the expense of the American taxpayer needs to come to an end. Negotiating with the enemy (democrats) should be verboten. Tolerating RINOs should be punished, it’s time for actual conservative radicals to go RINO hunting and start putting heads on stakes. I want fighters not compromisers…politics needs to get as ugly as our economy, border, crime stats, inflation, and corrupt bureaucracies.

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Solid Post.

Agree in principle but what’s the plan? Where to from here?
Link Posted: 10/4/2023 6:18:43 AM EST
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If Geraldo is against him, he's a fucking hero in my book.



Look, what Gaetz did today was select the hottest button issue the Dems AND RINOs are on about (Funneling money to Ukraine) and jam his dick in it to stop the machine.  

Politics as usual be damned, it's about time somebody just said FUCK IT and gored their motherfucking ox.  I would give up a lot of ground on other issues to deny the fucking Dems and Swamp Rat RINOs the money to give to their fucking pet foreign country.  It's a hill worth dying on.

Just my opinion.
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I nominate you as speaker of the house!!!
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RINOs aren’t conservatives. I’m to the point now that slim majorities are simply Band-Aids on a severed limb. We do need some bold actions and we need more radical, bold (actual) constitutional conservatives who aren’t prostitutes to lobbyists and bedfellows with Marxist democrats.

Gaetz is doing exactly what 99.87% of GD always bitches about, that nobody does anything, and when somebody takes bold action they fucking capitulate, waffle, and get scared about “losing”. Here’s a hint: we haven’t been winning shit in a long time. I think most Americans with two braincells are starting to understand the Uniparty and the how much they’re getting fucked regardless of Marxist democrats or RINOs in leadership. It’s time to dump a little tea into the RINO cesspool, give the finger to the establishment, and get enough radicals in congress to start bitch-slapping the American-hating democrats. Decorum needs to die.

Statesmanship is a losing strategy. Compromising at the expense of the American taxpayer needs to come to an end. Negotiating with the enemy (democrats) should be verboten. Tolerating RINOs should be punished, it’s time for actual conservative radicals to go RINO hunting and start putting heads on stakes. I want fighters not compromisers…politics needs to get as ugly as our economy, border, crime stats, inflation, and corrupt bureaucracies.

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Really? Because Republicans currently control SCOTUS, Ds have never been more unpopular, Rs are on the winning side of a host of issues (family, trans, woke), Rs have never been more trusted to handle the economy since '91 and are in the catbird seat going into 2024.

But now's time for "bold moves" where the outcome is completely unknown?

RINOs aren’t conservatives. I’m to the point now that slim majorities are simply Band-Aids on a severed limb. We do need some bold actions and we need more radical, bold (actual) constitutional conservatives who aren’t prostitutes to lobbyists and bedfellows with Marxist democrats.

Gaetz is doing exactly what 99.87% of GD always bitches about, that nobody does anything, and when somebody takes bold action they fucking capitulate, waffle, and get scared about “losing”. Here’s a hint: we haven’t been winning shit in a long time. I think most Americans with two braincells are starting to understand the Uniparty and the how much they’re getting fucked regardless of Marxist democrats or RINOs in leadership. It’s time to dump a little tea into the RINO cesspool, give the finger to the establishment, and get enough radicals in congress to start bitch-slapping the American-hating democrats. Decorum needs to die.

Statesmanship is a losing strategy. Compromising at the expense of the American taxpayer needs to come to an end. Negotiating with the enemy (democrats) should be verboten. Tolerating RINOs should be punished, it’s time for actual conservative radicals to go RINO hunting and start putting heads on stakes. I want fighters not compromisers…politics needs to get as ugly as our economy, border, crime stats, inflation, and corrupt bureaucracies.

ROCK6


(Hell to the yeah)^87
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RINOs aren’t conservatives. I’m to the point now that slim majorities are simply Band-Aids on a severed limb. We do need some bold actions and we need more radical, bold (actual) constitutional conservatives who aren’t prostitutes to lobbyists and bedfellows with Marxist democrats.

Gaetz is doing exactly what 99.87% of GD always bitches about, that nobody does anything, and when somebody takes bold action they fucking capitulate, waffle, and get scared about “losing”. Here’s a hint: we haven’t been winning shit in a long time. I think most Americans with two braincells are starting to understand the Uniparty and the how much they’re getting fucked regardless of Marxist democrats or RINOs in leadership. It’s time to dump a little tea into the RINO cesspool, give the finger to the establishment, and get enough radicals in congress to start bitch-slapping the American-hating democrats. Decorum needs to die.

Statesmanship is a losing strategy. Compromising at the expense of the American taxpayer needs to come to an end. Negotiating with the enemy (democrats) should be verboten. Tolerating RINOs should be punished, it’s time for actual conservative radicals to go RINO hunting and start putting heads on stakes. I want fighters not compromisers…politics needs to get as ugly as our economy, border, crime stats, inflation, and corrupt bureaucracies.

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Spot Fucking On!!!
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Gaetz is telling it like it is but unfortunately none of it can be fixed because we don't have the political will to do it and the American public (voters) have become so comfortable with Government involvement (intrusion) in their lives. Our Nation is indeed in Chaos and is morally corrupt and bankrupt. The Republican Party is feeding at the trough alongside the Democrats.

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State checks out.
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Agree in principle but what's the plan? Where to from here?
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Doesn't matter honestly.  Ridding the rep party of the RINOs is problem #1.

then we can worry about what to do.  Until then, we need to stay laser focused on that one goal.
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Spot Fucking On!!!
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RINOs aren’t conservatives. I’m to the point now that slim majorities are simply Band-Aids on a severed limb. We do need some bold actions and we need more radical, bold (actual) constitutional conservatives who aren’t prostitutes to lobbyists and bedfellows with Marxist democrats.

Gaetz is doing exactly what 99.87% of GD always bitches about, that nobody does anything, and when somebody takes bold action they fucking capitulate, waffle, and get scared about “losing”. Here’s a hint: we haven’t been winning shit in a long time. I think most Americans with two braincells are starting to understand the Uniparty and the how much they’re getting fucked regardless of Marxist democrats or RINOs in leadership. It’s time to dump a little tea into the RINO cesspool, give the finger to the establishment, and get enough radicals in congress to start bitch-slapping the American-hating democrats. Decorum needs to die.

Statesmanship is a losing strategy. Compromising at the expense of the American taxpayer needs to come to an end. Negotiating with the enemy (democrats) should be verboten. Tolerating RINOs should be punished, it’s time for actual conservative radicals to go RINO hunting and start putting heads on stakes. I want fighters not compromisers…politics needs to get as ugly as our economy, border, crime stats, inflation, and corrupt bureaucracies.

ROCK6


Spot Fucking On!!!


But Mccarthy had earned that seat, and even if you cannot respect the man you must respect the seat  holds!!!!!!!     And neither of you are showing that respect.  

 I can't believe people still believe that crap.
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DeSantis should try for it.
Somebody should email him.
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The house , senate , FBI and about every gov agency needs an enema top to bottom.
Its about time laws are enforced ( the same ones they passed ) starting with immigration and cut off spending on crap that is not a constitutional right which is a shit ton of money.

Unless people , on both sides , go to jail for misdeeds its more of the same.


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Comer should be the next speaker.
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If they really want some revenge they could start an investigation of Nancy Pelosi's dealings with the Capitol Police leading up to and on the day of Jan 6.
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They don't understand how it works and are militantly resistant to even attempting to understand DC. They think randomly throwing bombs in all directions will suddenly overcome a slim majority and pickup seats in 2024. And, somehow, have convinced themselves that they're going to interrupt Ukraine funding by deposing McCarthy. When, in fact, Ukraine funding in the eventual omnibus will likely be significantly higher than what McCarthy might've been able to limit it to.

I'd say bookmark this thread and revisit in about 13 months but I'm not convinced they can truly grasp what's about to take place.
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I think even the democrats voted against funding Ukraine anymore in the recent government shut down. No one wants to explain it during a re election filled with inflation.
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Gaetz is telling it like it is but unfortunately none of it can be fixed because we don't have the political will to do it and the American public (voters) have become so comfortable with Government involvement (intrusion) in their lives. Our Nation is indeed in Chaos and is morally corrupt and bankrupt. The Republican Party is feeding at the trough alongside the Democrats.

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Everyone in the thread criticizing Gaetz because he “doesn’t have a plan” and “doesn’t know what comes next” falsely presumes that it is his responsibility.

As someone who is decidedly NOT in “leadership,” it’s not his problem. He fragged an untrustworthy leader, as a rank and file member, and demonstrated for everyone watching the consequences of betrayal.

That was the full extent of his plan, and he has no responsibility for “what comes next.” That is squarely in the laps of “leadership,” who claim to be the “adults in the room.” They can figure out how to select a speaker who won’t get fragged for being a swamp donkey.
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So the most immediate and visible consequence of Gaetz fragging the speaker is that a bunch of democrat swamp donkeys lose some swamp privileges to which they had become accustomed.

That sounds like a start. Now turn that inward.
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This mischaracterization keeps occurring.  

The most accurate description is the dems sided with Gaetz.  Big difference.

And Gaetz did the needful.
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This mischaracterization keeps occurring.  

The most accurate description is the dems sided with Gaetz.  Big difference.

And Gaetz did the needful.
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So Gaetz sided with 100% of the democrats, but this is a good thing.

This mischaracterization keeps occurring.  

The most accurate description is the dems sided with Gaetz.  Big difference.

And Gaetz did the needful.


The headline should be, “Swamp Donkey Speaker Deposed in Rare Act of Bipartisanship.”

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OP is a bundle of sticks.
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This mischaracterization keeps occurring.  

The most accurate description is the dems sided with Gaetz.  Big difference.

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Those little manipulative posts are just the last gasps of the boomer establishmentarians watching their power fade.

The rest of us recognize the new rules and are moving to play by them.  

Compassionate conservatism is dead in the water.  Time for the right to put up a real fight.
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The headline should be, "Swamp Donkey Speaker Deposed in Rare Act of Bipartisanship."

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So Gaetz sided with 100% of the democrats, but this is a good thing.

This mischaracterization keeps occurring.  

The most accurate description is the dems sided with Gaetz.  Big difference.

And Gaetz did the needful.


The headline should be, "Swamp Donkey Speaker Deposed in Rare Act of Bipartisanship."

Hell yea brother
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1 out of 8 Americans lives in California and 6 million of them voted for Trump in the last presidential election. That's greater than the population of 31 of the other 49 states.

Conservative Patriots have very few allies in this nation.
We should be supporting our brothers and sisters behind enemy lines, not insulting them or encouraging them to run away.

We consistently slam Democrats here, but I can't imagine people on DU slam like-minded individuals there simply because they live in a red state. It's fairly pathetic that we need to look to their example for how to stick together in a fight.
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Kali is lost.  Leave and consolidate power, stop acting like a battered wife and stop helping fund the insanity.

Staying there is knowingly helping the enemy.

If the only people left there were radical libs, the same politics and policies would occur, but only radical libs would be paying for it and suffering the consequences, and their congressional power would be reduced due to population decreases.
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OP what do you expect from a sleazy used car salesman looking POS that simps for a country aligned with countries and groups like Iran, Hezbollah, North Korea and China?
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1 out of 8 Americans lives in California and 6 million of them voted for Trump in the last presidential election. That's greater than the population of 31 of the other 49 states.

Conservative Patriots have very few allies in this nation.
We should be supporting our brothers and sisters behind enemy lines, not insulting them or encouraging them to run away.

We consistently slam Democrats here, but I can't imagine people on DU slam like-minded individuals there simply because they live in a red state. It's fairly pathetic that we need to look to their example for how to stick together in a fight.
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I personally have no problem with Californians.  Its the state government I hate.  Know a lot of fine people from CA.  

What I do have a problem with is when people cry in GD and accuse those who dont believe like them of being a pedophile.  

That is absolutely a piece of the pie that is wrong with GD.  That is a huge issue.  I am not a pedo, I do not align with pedos and I willing to step outside with any low information turd that says I do.
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But Mccarthy had earned that seat, and even if you cannot respect the man you must respect the seat  holds!!!!!!!     And neither of you are showing that respect.  

 I can't believe people still believe that crap.
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He broke the promises made in order to gain it.  He was warned.  I have zero sympathy for him.

Might give the new speaker something to think about.
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You lie.  And should be banned for this vitriol.  I am not aligned with a child fucker.  I am not a pedo.

You toe stepping the CoC with this vitriol.

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See this is the reason why democrats keep doing shit like accusing people of sex crimes.  Dipshits will always regurgitate the smear no matter how many times the guy was cleared.
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I don't disagree and I saw that post, but it's not targeted at a specific individual, which is generally the standard for CoC 6.  Also, it dances around the insult, stating if you align yourself with a pedophile, maybe you should look in the mirror. It doesn't come right out and say you are a pedophile.

These may seem like minor issues, but we need to have some objective standard for what's over the line, at least as much as possible. And we spend a fair amount of the day trying to figure those issues out. We are routinely accused of being biased or inconsistent, but if folks only knew how much effort goes in to our attempt to not be, they'd probably be a bit more forgiving.

For example, the other night, right before turning in with the wife, I grabbed a report someone submitted for a personal attack. Sure looked like one when I reviewed it but it was the end of a longer reply chain in a 9 page thread, so I went back and read the entire chain of replies.  And then, because of other replies I saw in the thread when doing so, I decided I needed to read the entire thread to understand the context to really be fair.  That meant I had to read over 400 replies before deciding what to do with the originally reported one. The wife was long asleep when I got to bed an hour or so later.

I'm not looking for thanks or even understanding. I volunteer to do this because I love this place, and if it gets to be too much, I'll turn in my CCW mod sash. Instead, I just wanted to give you some context for these decisions.

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I personally have no problem with Californians.  Its the state government I hate.  Know a lot of fine people from CA.  

What I do have a problem with is when people cry in GD and accuse those who dont believe like them of being a pedophile.  

That is absolutely a piece of the pie that is wrong with GD.  That is a huge issue.  I am not a pedo, I do not align with pedos and I willing to step outside with any low information turd that says I do.

I don't disagree and I saw that post, but it's not targeted at a specific individual, which is generally the standard for CoC 6.  Also, it dances around the insult, stating if you align yourself with a pedophile, maybe you should look in the mirror. It doesn't come right out and say you are a pedophile.

These may seem like minor issues, but we need to have some objective standard for what's over the line, at least as much as possible. And we spend a fair amount of the day trying to figure those issues out. We are routinely accused of being biased or inconsistent, but if folks only knew how much effort goes in to our attempt to not be, they'd probably be a bit more forgiving.

For example, the other night, right before turning in with the wife, I grabbed a report someone submitted for a personal attack. Sure looked like one when I reviewed it but it was the end of a longer reply chain in a 9 page thread, so I went back and read the entire chain of replies.  And then, because of other replies I saw in the thread when doing so, I decided I needed to read the entire thread to understand the context to really be fair.  That meant I had to read over 400 replies before deciding what to do with the originally reported one. The wife was long asleep when I got to bed an hour or so later.

I'm not looking for thanks or even understanding. I volunteer to do this because I love this place, and if it gets to be too much, I'll turn in my CCW mod sash. Instead, I just wanted to give you some context for these decisions.

From my view he SPECIFICALLY targeted everybody in this thread who supports what gaetz did as a pedo.

That is not a stretch at all, objectively, outside looking in.  I am not making mountain out of a molehill at all.

I appreciate your explanation.  But this is the crux of what is wrong with GD.  Some dude gets to accuse me and several others in a lump of being a pedo.

He was wrong.  It is line stepping and if I retaliate I become the bastard who broke CoC.  

Thanks for your explanation.  But this issue is a real problem, I dont have an answer for it.  But I would love to stand in front of him and have him call me a pedo to my face.  But he wont because the internet is a safe space.
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YOU FUCKING SAID WE NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR, insinuating to see if we are pedos.  Your post was a line stepping vitriol aimed at people like me.  You should have never said it.  IT WAS BULLSHIT.

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The pedo thing is excessive. Fucking underaged girls is more accurate. There's a pretty big difference between paying a 17-year-old hooker who you thought was 18 and luring a middle schooler into your van or whatever. I mean, I've never been in a situation where I had to screen the teenage prostitutes I arranged by Venmo'ing my convicted sex trafficker buddy but I could see how mistakes could happen.
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