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You know how whenever a law is passed saying that you don't need a license to carry a weapon, liberals say "Oh, God, there's going to be blood in the streets, school shootings are going to skyrocket, it's going to be horror!" And then nothing happens, except perhaps a decrease in violence?
You guys laugh at the liberals and anti-gunners who say that. And then you say "If drugs are legalized, there's going to be blood in the streets! Oh, the humanity!" You think you're better than the liberals you hate? You're not. Also, I own page 4. |
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I wonder about the frequency of testing for mj and how that has affected the numbers. In other words, my guess is that years ago there was zero testing done for mj, and now they come up with more situations that they have decided warrant (ha!) testing for mj, so the number of tests being performed is increasing year over year. This means that by golly they are finding more cases of mj in people's systems, but only because they are testing more people. Unless the number of people tested each year is the same, one cannot draw conclusions about how many people are using. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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https://gazette.com/news/mixed-findings-on-colorado-marijuana-traffic-deaths/article_ec6a8f4c-a722-11e8-9c81-17b5312abb33.html The number of highway deaths involving Colorado drivers who had marijuana in their system grew again in 2017, a new state study shows. At the same time, traffic fatalities in which drivers had enough marijuana in their bloodstream to be deemed legally impaired dropped sharply, from 52 in 2016 to 35 last year. The reason for this seeming contradiction: Marijuana can remain in the bloodstream for weeks, so a positive blood test may not mean a driver was stoned at the time of a deadly crash. I remember a few years ago reading an article about alcohol related accidents, only issue was what "alcohol related" meant to them vs what it means to me. To them it meant any accident that there was alcohol present. Not much different than firearm death stats, very seldom do they omit suicides which greatly skews the numbers and makes people think tons of kids are being killed every year. |
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Freedom be scary bro View Quote |
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So if you can't do drugs, you aren't free, and if you can do drugs you are? Can someone explain this logic to me? We have rules and laws all around us, but libertarians think one issue is the only one that matters. Good thing they are only 1% (although they are a loud 1%). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Freedom be scary bro |
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More freedom!!!!!
Surely Denver and CO will go back Republican anytime now. |
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This is the correct answer. Dependent people vote to be dependent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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DENVER A measure to decriminalize psilocybin mushrooms in the city of Denver passed by a thin margin, election officials confirmed Wednesday. View Quote |
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Who cares? Ppl do mushrooms now, they'll do them if it eventually passes or not. I cant imagine it's even much of a problem since normal ppl that eat mushroom aren't doing it a whole lot anyways. Hours and hours of being high and not being able to sleep isn't that much fun anyways.
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I think it’s hilarious on this site that we have people advocating against legalization of drugs because of the havoc it will wreak on cities, but they’d end welfare tomorrow if they could precipitating a modern day apocalypse. View Quote Shroomsbad.EXE Marijuanabad.EXE Bigcitiesbad.EXE Well then by that logic shouldn't you want these cities to legalize all the drugs and the homelessness and the crime so that they implode and destroy themselves? |
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Fucking Colorado has gone completely off the road and into the ditch. I don't doubt for a minute that legal meth and heroine are just around the corner.
Such a shame, since it's a beautiful state. |
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Good. Psilocybe mushrooms are immensely beneficial for a variety of disorders, including PTSD and depression. View Quote |
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You know how whenever a law is passed saying that you don't need a license to carry a weapon, liberals say "Oh, God, there's going to be blood in the streets, school shootings are going to skyrocket, it's going to be horror!" And then nothing happens, except perhaps a decrease in violence? You guys laugh at the liberals and anti-gunners who say that. And then you say "If drugs are legalized, there's going to be blood in the streets! Oh, the humanity!" You think you're better than the liberals you hate? You're not. Also, I own page 4. View Quote |
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Is it just me or does it seem that plants (or fungi) which grow naturally should NOT be illegal? I would never do shrooms but I have houseplants right now that would make me sick or even outright kill me if I ingested them and they aren't illegal "for my safety" so WTF? View Quote |
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Fucking Colorado has gone completely off the road and into the ditch. I don't doubt for a minute that legal meth and heroine are just around the corner. Such a shame, since it's a beautiful state. View Quote Of the people I know who smoke pot and occasionally eat shrooms the vast majority of them are freedom loving, gun owning, leave me the fuck alone type of people who could give a shit less what you think or like and expect the same from everyone else in return. |
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Isn't it odd how all of a sudden pot and "magic mushrooms" are miracle drugs? Fuck, who knows, heroine will probably cure cancer, meth will end third-world hunger, and cocaine will bring world peace. Hurrah! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good. Psilocybe mushrooms are immensely beneficial for a variety of disorders, including PTSD and depression. |
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What are the freedom loving, independent, ARF bros drinking this weekend? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Except when you legalize drugs, DUI goes up, unemployment goes up, welfare goes up, productivity goes down and more Democrats get elected. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You know how whenever a law is passed saying that you don't need a license to carry a weapon, liberals say "Oh, God, there's going to be blood in the streets, school shootings are going to skyrocket, it's going to be horror!" And then nothing happens, except perhaps a decrease in violence? You guys laugh at the liberals and anti-gunners who say that. And then you say "If drugs are legalized, there's going to be blood in the streets! Oh, the humanity!" You think you're better than the liberals you hate? You're not. Also, I own page 4. |
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Isn't it odd how all of a sudden pot and "magic mushrooms" are miracle drugs? Fuck, who knows, heroine will probably cure cancer, meth will end third-world hunger, and cocaine will bring world peace. Hurrah! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good. Psilocybe mushrooms are immensely beneficial for a variety of disorders, including PTSD and depression. |
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Did I make it in before the usual in the GD cheer and say this is about freedom.
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Did I make it in before the usual in the GD cheer and say this is about freedom. View Quote They then go to the mulch in their flowerbed, and pick up a LBM (little brown mushroom). They pick it and eat it. No psilocybin. That's legal. They then turn around and pick another LMB, this one has psilocybin. They eat it. You think someone should go to jail for that? |
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Good. Psilocybe mushrooms are immensely beneficial for a variety of disorders, including PTSD and depression. View Quote "Billings man accused of shooting, killing friend after mushroom trip" https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/crime-and-courts/billings-man-accused-of-shooting-killing-friend-after-mushroom-trip/article_38a82a03-6d6b-5522-ac46-8722d44a20f8.html "An Oregon man who told police he was under the influence of hallucinogenic mushrooms punched a 71-year-old woman Sunday as she loaded groceries into her truck." https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending-now/oregon-man-high-on-mushrooms-punches-71yearold-woman-deputies-say/932379101 "Suburban Philadelphia Man Sentenced for Killing Friend in Mushroom-Induced Rage" https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-Sentenced-for-Killing-Friend-in-Mushroom-Induced-Rage-286473581.html "A 25-year-old Purdue University graduate who was killed Sunday night was shot by a man in a hallucinogenic-mushrooms-fueled trip, court documents allege" https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/03/12/man-tripping-mushrooms-fatally-shot-friend-documents-allege/70209500/ "A Northern California mixed-martial artist accused of ripping out his friend’s heart and removing his tongue while the two were on hallucinogenic drugs has pleaded guilty to murder and mayhem charges. Witnesses say the two had ingested hallucinogenic mushrooms before the attack and believed they were involved in a struggle between God and the devil." https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/california-mma-fighter-jarrod-wyatt-accused-ripping-friend-heard-tongue-pleads-guilty-murder-article-1.1154835 "Police: Blandon man high on mushrooms stabs woman, kills rabbit" http://www.wfmz.com/news/berks/police-blandon-man-high-on-mushrooms-stabs-woman-kills-rabbit/19950589 "Day after he allegedly kills best friend while high on mushrooms, Northland teen goes before judge" https://fox4kc.com/2017/06/26/day-after-he-allegedly-kills-best-friend-while-high-on-mushrooms-northland-teen-goes-before-judge/ "A teacher repeatedly stabbed himself in the neck with a broken bottle while high on magic mushrooms, an inquest heard." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/2798443/Teacher-stabbed-himself-to-death-while-high-on-magic-mushrooms.html "Police say York man took psychedelic mushrooms before killing cat" https://www.centralmaine.com/2018/09/07/police-say-man-took-psychedelic-mushrooms-before-killing-cat/ "A monthlong jury trial ended Thursday with a Vacaville man being found guilty of second-degree murder and attempted murder for a 2010 late-night shooting spree in a Vacaville apartment among four friends who were all high on psilocybin mushrooms." https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/solano-news/crime-solano-county-courts/jury-convicts-man-who-shot-friends-while-high-on-mushrooms/ |
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I was referring to the 'muh freedom' argument which doesn't really frame what is going on, not the isolated efficacy of drug legalization. It is not going to play out like some libertarian fantasy so often parroted here. It will play out like it is playing out in these liberal cities....they will have the freedom and you will have to tolerate them, not to mention the direct and indirect subsidization. It is no coincidence that these places are also increasingly 'decriminalizing' the offenses that are most commonly associated with drug addicts. It is not as simple as so many like to frame it is my point. We can debate drug legalization on its many pros and cons, I just think the simplistic freedom arguments don't really address anything, at least not outside the very small echo chamber here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Legalize all drugs. Legalize all of em, whoever is stupid enough to start doing them will likely end up in prison for stealing shit to fund the habit. Society would suck for several years but eventually so many idiots would be in prison the only remaining folks would be the better side of society. Also, eventually people would respect and understand that drugs are for losers. Whos with me? high these days its sickening. |
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Quoted: Mushrooms also cause people to do stupid things.... "Billings man accused of shooting, killing friend after mushroom trip" https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/crime-and-courts/billings-man-accused-of-shooting-killing-friend-after-mushroom-trip/article_38a82a03-6d6b-5522-ac46-8722d44a20f8.html "An Oregon man who told police he was under the influence of hallucinogenic mushrooms punched a 71-year-old woman Sunday as she loaded groceries into her truck." https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending-now/oregon-man-high-on-mushrooms-punches-71yearold-woman-deputies-say/932379101 "Suburban Philadelphia Man Sentenced for Killing Friend in Mushroom-Induced Rage" https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-Sentenced-for-Killing-Friend-in-Mushroom-Induced-Rage-286473581.html "A 25-year-old Purdue University graduate who was killed Sunday night was shot by a man in a hallucinogenic-mushrooms-fueled trip, court documents allege" https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/03/12/man-tripping-mushrooms-fatally-shot-friend-documents-allege/70209500/ "A Northern California mixed-martial artist accused of ripping out his friend's heart and removing his tongue while the two were on hallucinogenic drugs has pleaded guilty to murder and mayhem charges. Witnesses say the two had ingested hallucinogenic mushrooms before the attack and believed they were involved in a struggle between God and the devil." https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/california-mma-fighter-jarrod-wyatt-accused-ripping-friend-heard-tongue-pleads-guilty-murder-article-1.1154835 "Police: Blandon man high on mushrooms stabs woman, kills rabbit" http://www.wfmz.com/news/berks/police-blandon-man-high-on-mushrooms-stabs-woman-kills-rabbit/19950589 "Day after he allegedly kills best friend while high on mushrooms, Northland teen goes before judge" https://fox4kc.com/2017/06/26/day-after-he-allegedly-kills-best-friend-while-high-on-mushrooms-northland-teen-goes-before-judge/ "A teacher repeatedly stabbed himself in the neck with a broken bottle while high on magic mushrooms, an inquest heard." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/2798443/Teacher-stabbed-himself-to-death-while-high-on-magic-mushrooms.html "Police say York man took psychedelic mushrooms before killing cat" https://www.centralmaine.com/2018/09/07/police-say-man-took-psychedelic-mushrooms-before-killing-cat/ "A monthlong jury trial ended Thursday with a Vacaville man being found guilty of second-degree murder and attempted murder for a 2010 late-night shooting spree in a Vacaville apartment among four friends who were all high on psilocybin mushrooms." https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/solano-news/crime-solano-county-courts/jury-convicts-man-who-shot-friends-while-high-on-mushrooms/ View Quote |
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Johns Hopkins, for starters: https://hub.jhu.edu/2018/09/26/psilocybin-scheduling-magic-mushrooms/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Good. Psilocybe mushrooms are immensely beneficial for a variety of disorders, including PTSD and depression. https://hub.jhu.edu/2018/09/26/psilocybin-scheduling-magic-mushrooms/ |
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Studies have shown that it remaps the brain for those with PTSD. Hopefully we can see more results for those who suffer.
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Quoted: Comparing someone who intentionally murders a person while they are high on hallucinogenic mushrooms with an unintentional accidental shooting requires some serious mental gymnastics..... View Quote I am a firm believer you are 100% responsible for all of your actions, doesn't matter if sober, high, drunk or sleepwalking. |
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Yeah. Its for medical reasons. View Quote Unless you're the type just pay lip service to our military members you should be fully behind legalization. It's our countries archaic drug laws that have retarded developments. Perhaps you should read the research and compare the results to what's done now. |
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