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Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:06:55 PM EST
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The first words out of Romney's mouth were a Trump bash....so bad that Swallowswell agreed..... so it appears that the 'roo and swallowswell have a lot in common....
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The first words out of Romney's mouth were a Trump bash....so bad that Swallowswell agreed..... so it appears that the 'roo and swallowswell have a lot in common....
Keep your hits fair.

As far as the, "first words out of ROmneys mouth."

Democrats and retards have  been pushing collusion for years. Romney never got on that bandwagon.

The coup attempt has been obvious for years. Romney never got on that bandwagon.

Romney has had a million chances to push the collusion narrative. Never took the bait. Romney had a chance to push the coup. Democrats are and were chomping at the bit for impeachment. Romney never took the bait.

Romney is correct on this issue. Trump is part of The Swamp. Trumps folks who are part of The Swamp are going to jail.

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Romney had the chance to condemn the democrats for what they attempted, but no he CHOSE to remain silent on that.
This is what is called, "moving the goalposts."

Romney did not engage in the coup attempt, that is obvious.

Romney never repeated the collusion nonsense, that is obvious.

But since he did not engage in the coup attempt, and did not repeat the collusion nonsense, he must be bad because he was silent?

Moving the goalposts. Nothing more, nothing less.

Nothing can really be done on the coup attempt. Obama has Presidential immunity. Hillary got hers from Trump himself.

You are moving the goalposts now it is obvious Romney had nothing to do with it...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:14:34 PM EST
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Keep your hits fair.

As far as the, "first words out of ROmneys mouth."

Democrats and retards have  been pushing collusion for years. Romney never got on that bandwagon.

The coup attempt has been obvious for years. Romney never got on that bandwagon.

Romney has had a million chances to push the collusion narrative. Never took the bait. Romney had a chance to push the coup. Democrats are and were chomping at the bit for impeachment. Romney never took the bait.

Romney is correct on this issue. Trump is part of The Swamp. Trumps folks who are part of The Swamp are going to jail.

This is what is called, "moving the goalposts."

Romney did not engage in the coup attempt, that is obvious.

Romney never repeated the collusion nonsense, that is obvious.

But since he did not engage in the coup attempt, and did not repeat the collusion nonsense, he must be bad because he was silent?

Moving the goalposts. Nothing more, nothing less.

Nothing can really be done on the coup attempt. Obama has Presidential immunity. Hillary got hers from Trump himself.

You are moving the goalposts now it is obvious Romney had nothing to do with it...
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The first words out of Romney's mouth were a Trump bash....so bad that Swallowswell agreed..... so it appears that the 'roo and swallowswell have a lot in common....
Keep your hits fair.

As far as the, "first words out of ROmneys mouth."

Democrats and retards have  been pushing collusion for years. Romney never got on that bandwagon.

The coup attempt has been obvious for years. Romney never got on that bandwagon.

Romney has had a million chances to push the collusion narrative. Never took the bait. Romney had a chance to push the coup. Democrats are and were chomping at the bit for impeachment. Romney never took the bait.

Romney is correct on this issue. Trump is part of The Swamp. Trumps folks who are part of The Swamp are going to jail.

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Romney had the chance to condemn the democrats for what they attempted, but no he CHOSE to remain silent on that.
This is what is called, "moving the goalposts."

Romney did not engage in the coup attempt, that is obvious.

Romney never repeated the collusion nonsense, that is obvious.

But since he did not engage in the coup attempt, and did not repeat the collusion nonsense, he must be bad because he was silent?

Moving the goalposts. Nothing more, nothing less.

Nothing can really be done on the coup attempt. Obama has Presidential immunity. Hillary got hers from Trump himself.

You are moving the goalposts now it is obvious Romney had nothing to do with it...
Your reading comprehension really fucking sucks dude.......There is no goalpost moving.

No one is fucking saying that Romney pushed the narrative....no one is saying he was part of it.....an even implying that I said as much makes you a liar.

asking Romney to condemn the Dems for what they did is not to much to ask.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:17:49 PM EST
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Imagine you are posing as a real right winger and you find out that Russian collusion was a total dishonest hoax designed to initiate a soft coup and your FIRST complaint is against Trump and NOT against the perpetrators of this attempted soft coup.

Think about that Arfcom………..think DEEPLY about that.

Even I didn't think Romney was THIS FUCKING BAD...…...but he is.
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Yep,romney is a POS that wants to be center stage.Big ego for a carpetbagging POS........
At this point I wouldn't be all that surprised if Romney ends up switching parties and caucusing with the democrats.
And if he did the 'roo would still defend Romney
Imagine you are posing as a real right winger and you find out that Russian collusion was a total dishonest hoax designed to initiate a soft coup and your FIRST complaint is against Trump and NOT against the perpetrators of this attempted soft coup.

Think about that Arfcom………..think DEEPLY about that.

Even I didn't think Romney was THIS FUCKING BAD...…...but he is.
This!  What a piece of shit!
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:19:05 PM EST
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Even if this had happened to Obama and he was the victim of a dishonest soft coup to remove him as the duly elected president of the USA...….I would be EQUALLY as PISSED OFF with the perpetrators.
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Even if this had happened to Obama and he was the victim of a dishonest soft coup to remove him as the duly elected president of the USA...….I would be EQUALLY as PISSED OFF with the perpetrators.
It is obvious that Romney was not in on the coup, yes?

It seems like you are trying to find a boogeyman where there is not one.

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Your's and Romney's failure to realize how serious this is to the continuation of a free country has me worried.
Trump established a system for gun control that bypasses congress. Gun control is a threat to the continuation of a free country. It has me worried.

If Romney had been in on it, I would say he needs to get removed from office... But, as it turns out, he wasn't...

I think you are trying to find boogeymen were there isn't one...

The bad guys in this situation are Trumps Democrat inner-circle. Obama and Hillary.

I would love to see accountability for those who pulled this coup. I would love it.

I would also love to see Trump go to jail for importing illegal immigrants, too. I would love to see accountability for Trumps illegal gun ban that bypassed Congress...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:22:01 PM EST
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Let me get this straight.

Romney did not participate in the clear-cut coup.

Romney did not  perpetuate the lie that Trump colluded.

Romney did not have anything to do with the coup.

Help me with this... Let me get this straight... Romney had ziltch to do with the clear-cut coup attempt by (Trump exonerated) Hillary and (Presidential immunity) Obama...

Romney had nothing  to do with that.

Trump, on the other hand, surrounded himself with criminals. Something Romney warned us about with Trump years ago. Trump, on the other hand, packed his inner-circle with The Swamp. Something Romney warned us about with Trump years ago.

Romney releases a statement, saying he is pleased that Trump is exonerated from accusations of collusion... But upset that Trump packed his inner-circle with criminals.

And you are upset at Romney for what? Not attacking (Trump protected) Hillary and (Presidential immunity) Obama?

You are upset that Romney is not repeating the false Trump narrative on this. Trump did not collude with Russia, but he is not a conservative.

Romney had nothing to do with the clear-cut coup attempt. Nothing. Romney never got on the collusion bandwagon, ever. The report proved Romney correct that Trump is a bad person who is part of The Swamp, and you are upset with Romney for not toeing the false Trump narrative.
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Why are you giving Romney a pass on his NOT condemning the attempted dishonest soft coup?

That is about as dangerous as anything can get to destroying a free country.

And the democrats/nevertrumpers engaged in it...….Romney is ok with that and don't for one second try and make me believe he was happy at its outcome.
Let me get this straight.

Romney did not participate in the clear-cut coup.

Romney did not  perpetuate the lie that Trump colluded.

Romney did not have anything to do with the coup.

Help me with this... Let me get this straight... Romney had ziltch to do with the clear-cut coup attempt by (Trump exonerated) Hillary and (Presidential immunity) Obama...

Romney had nothing  to do with that.

Trump, on the other hand, surrounded himself with criminals. Something Romney warned us about with Trump years ago. Trump, on the other hand, packed his inner-circle with The Swamp. Something Romney warned us about with Trump years ago.

Romney releases a statement, saying he is pleased that Trump is exonerated from accusations of collusion... But upset that Trump packed his inner-circle with criminals.

And you are upset at Romney for what? Not attacking (Trump protected) Hillary and (Presidential immunity) Obama?

You are upset that Romney is not repeating the false Trump narrative on this. Trump did not collude with Russia, but he is not a conservative.

Romney had nothing to do with the clear-cut coup attempt. Nothing. Romney never got on the collusion bandwagon, ever. The report proved Romney correct that Trump is a bad person who is part of The Swamp, and you are upset with Romney for not toeing the false Trump narrative.
Yet Romney didn't mention the true perpetrators of the lies.  This is the only crime committed and that POS Romney is silent...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:23:31 PM EST
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You know don't you that hardly anyone reads your posts now.....I used to out of a sense of fairness but I just gave up because they are so off the wall. You should really quit while you are behind.
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Let me get this straight.

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You know don't you that hardly anyone reads your posts now.....I used to out of a sense of fairness but I just gave up because they are so off the wall. You should really quit while you are behind.
Just imagine his classroom...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:24:36 PM EST
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You know don't you that hardly anyone reads your posts now.....I used to out of a sense of fairness but I just gave up because they are so off the wall. You should really quit while you are behind.
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This is true, I stopped reading his posts a while back. But in fairness I rarely read yours.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:27:02 PM EST
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Your reading comprehension really fucking sucks dude.......There is no goalpost moving.

No one is fucking saying that Romney pushed the narrative....no one is saying he was part of it.....an even implying that I said as much makes you a liar.
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Your reading comprehension really fucking sucks dude.......There is no goalpost moving.

No one is fucking saying that Romney pushed the narrative....no one is saying he was part of it.....an even implying that I said as much makes you a liar.
It is most  certainly moving the goal posts.

Romney wasn't in on it, but lets find a way to attack Romney over this, anyway... Yeah, it is moving the goalposts.

Small government, pro-gun conservatives knew everything Romney said is accurate, and have for years... Yes, you engaged in goalpost moving.

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asking Romney to condemn the Dems for what they did is not to much to ask.
Democrats did it. Democrats are to blame. But lets lump Romney in for not being vocal enough...

Romney did not repeat anything that was not already previously known by pro-gun small-government conservatives... Romney did not do or say anything groundbreaking.

Romney did not say anything that every gun owner already knows in their gut: Trump is not one of us, and does not represent us. Trump is part of The Swamp.

Romney has condemned Democrats plenty. It makes the news in Utah on page three of the politics section of the D News. Romney attacks Hillary and Obama plenty. He attacks AOC, and Pelosi, and Schumer plenty.

He repeats what gun owning conservatives already know about Trump, and it makes front page news worldwide.

Romney had nothing to do with the coup. Lets lump Romney in on it anyway, because he wasn't vocal enough condemning it... Makes a whole lot of sense.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:28:51 PM EST
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Yet Romney didn't mention the true perpetrators of the lies.  This is the only crime committed and that POS Romney is silent...
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At least Romney did not give Hillary immunity, like Trump did, eh.

There are plenty of folks in Trumps inner-circle who are going to jail for committing crimes.

Romney is accurate in that Trump himself did not engage in collusion. Romney is also accurate to point-out that Trumps inner-circle is and was a group of bad people.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:32:28 PM EST
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At least Romney did not give Hillary immunity, like Trump did, eh.

There are plenty of folks in Trumps inner-circle who are going to jail for committing crimes.

Romney is accurate in that Trump himself did not engage in collusion. Romney is also accurate to point-out that Trumps inner-circle is and was a group of bad people.
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Did Mitt call out McCain for delivering the fake Dossier to the FBI?  Seems like I remember Mitt calling him a hero and patriot.

Could you name those going to jail and the crimes they committed?
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:35:54 PM EST
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This is true, I stopped reading his posts a while back. But in fairness I rarely read yours.
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You know don't you that hardly anyone reads your posts now.....I used to out of a sense of fairness but I just gave up because they are so off the wall. You should really quit while you are behind.
This is true, I stopped reading his posts a while back. But in fairness I rarely read yours.
Fair enough.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:36:31 PM EST
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Did Mitt call out McCain for delivering the fake Dossier to the FBI?  Seems like I remember Mitt calling him a hero and patriot.

Could you name those going to jail and the crimes they committed?
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At least Romney did not give Hillary immunity, like Trump did, eh.

There are plenty of folks in Trumps inner-circle who are going to jail for committing crimes.

Romney is accurate in that Trump himself did not engage in collusion. Romney is also accurate to point-out that Trumps inner-circle is and was a group of bad people.
Did Mitt call out McCain for delivering the fake Dossier to the FBI?  Seems like I remember Mitt calling him a hero and patriot.

Could you name those going to jail and the crimes they committed?
The roo doesn't care about the crimes committed by the swamp or the dems...he doesn't care if HIS guy is pure swamp.......he only focuses on Trump and like the would like to see him gone by any means it takes.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:47:57 PM EST
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Did Mitt call out McCain for delivering the fake Dossier to the FBI?  Seems like I remember Mitt calling him a hero and patriot.
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Did Mitt call out McCain for delivering the fake Dossier to the FBI?  Seems like I remember Mitt calling him a hero and patriot.
Trump has a long list of good things he said about McCain.

So does Huckabee who has been quoted in this thread.

Trump has praised McCain long and hard...

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Could you name those going to jail and the crimes they committed?
Trump should be going to jail for importing illegal immigrants... But he isn't. Is that your point.

Trump should be going to jail for criminalizing gun parts possession... But he isn't...

Hillary certainly isn't. Her immunity came from Trump. Obama has Presidential immunity.

"All of the people facing charges from Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling" Link

What is your point? Trumps inner-circle were a bunch of corrupt swamp monsters, but Trump didn't collude with Russia... I could have told you that before the Mueller report...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 12:52:47 PM EST
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The roo doesn't care about the crimes committed by the swamp or the dems..
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The roo doesn't care about the crimes committed by the swamp or the dems..
Yes I do.

I hate Trump-funded, Trump supported Democrats, always have.

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.he doesn't care if HIS guy is pure swamp.......
Romney is less a part of The Swamp compared to Trump and Trumps inner-circle Democrats including Jared Kushner.

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he only focuses on Trump and like the would like to see him gone by any means it takes.
A legitimate effort should be made to have a pro-gun conservative on the ballot in 2020. Trump is not pro-gun.

A legitimate effort should be made to have someone on the ballot representing conservatives in 2020 that does not import illegal immigrants for work. That is not Trump.

A legitimate effort should be made to have someone on the ballot in 2020 who will make an honest effort to reducing Federal power, and reducing deficit spending. That is not Trump.

But I have said before, and I will say it again. If, "take the guns first," Trump is on the ballot against any Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat like Hillary or Kamala Harris... Or Sanders, or whoever... I will vote against the Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat.

I would like to see all, "take the guns first," politicians gone. Trump or whoever. Honestly... But I also live in the real world.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 1:10:09 PM EST
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Thinking of the other side as colleagues or as teammates no longer flies, they are the enemy. Stupid fucks like MFR who want to pretend they aren’t are the problem; Trump is there because WE put him there so every time you disparage him you do the same to the 60 million you wish would vote for your sorry ass.
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Mike Huckabee is not considered highly in pro-gun, small-government circles, regardless of religious beliefs.

Huckabee, realizing his ill-placed positions on gun rights and pro-amnesty immigration tied himself to loyalty to Trump, and Trumps, "take the guns first," followers appreciate the cover-fire for Trumps gun control initiatives and amnesty for illegals provided by Huckabee.

But he is no conservative, and is not considered highly in pro-gun, small-government circles, regardless  of religious beliefs.

Huckabee is an avowed anti-Mormon. My only real problems with Huckabee is that he is not a conservative, and he supports --fully-- Trumps gun control and pro-amnesty initiatives...
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We certainly understand why Mormons hate Mike Hucabee.  Hucabee tells the truth.  
Mike Huckabee is not considered highly in pro-gun, small-government circles, regardless of religious beliefs.

Huckabee, realizing his ill-placed positions on gun rights and pro-amnesty immigration tied himself to loyalty to Trump, and Trumps, "take the guns first," followers appreciate the cover-fire for Trumps gun control initiatives and amnesty for illegals provided by Huckabee.

But he is no conservative, and is not considered highly in pro-gun, small-government circles, regardless  of religious beliefs.

Huckabee is an avowed anti-Mormon. My only real problems with Huckabee is that he is not a conservative, and he supports --fully-- Trumps gun control and pro-amnesty initiatives...
You have your politicians confused.  
- Mike Huckabee is highly regarded in pro-gun, small-government circles.  
- Mitt Romney is highly detested in pro-gun, small-government circles.  Governor Mitt Romney signed a permanent assault weapons ban, and said that "Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts."
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 1:39:42 PM EST
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OP nailed it!
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 1:44:44 PM EST
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Like Jane Fonda, perched on an NVA AA mount, Romney gives aid and comfort to the enemy of a free America and, as such and like Hanoi Jane, is also an enemy of free Americans
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 1:46:51 PM EST
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Lol, rofl.

Trump endorsed Romney for the Senate in Utah against conservatives running for Senate who had supported and voted for Trump in the Primary. Lol, rofl.

No reason?

Romney waited until after the Mueller report was released to form an opinion...

And it turns out Romneys position is the correct one. If Romney is wrong, where?

Trump has put more Goldman Sachs executives in leadership positions in his administration than Bush and Obama combined.

Globalism?

You are scared of globalism.

Globalism absolutely permeates the Trump Administration.

Romney isn’t a straight shooter? “Amnesty for illegals,” Trump disagrees with you...

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You can’t have it both ways. If Trump is a scumbag democrat in disguise then his endorsement of Romney makes him also a scumbag democrat in disguise.
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Just like Hillary, Mitt had to move his residence to a friendly state to get elected to the Senate.
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Romney is a gun-grabbing liberal scumbag.  And he wears mom jeans.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 2:03:29 PM EST
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Dear Sticky Mitts,

McCain destroyed any honor he possessed when the backroom deal was made to avoid prosecution in the Keating Five scandal. He continued to show contempt for doing right with his Gang of Eight betrayals. He was the one who started the hate war against Trump. Your betrayal, lies and false representations for state healthcare were not the values we stand for. Your backstabbing speeches and running for office with the single goal of having more access to damaging your own party's president is dishonorable. Such party backstabbing has no place in our ranks. The fact you can't get on with taking care of the country's business shows how low of an insect you are. We don't need you.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 2:44:48 PM EST
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Will the Rmoney 'Roo have to support Swallwell, too?
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 2:56:52 PM EST
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Trump has a long list of good things he said about McCain.

So does Huckabee who has been quoted in this thread.

Trump has praised McCain long and hard...

Trump should be going to jail for importing illegal immigrants... But he isn't. Is that your point.

Trump should be going to jail for criminalizing gun parts possession... But he isn't...

Hillary certainly isn't. Her immunity came from Trump. Obama has Presidential immunity.

"All of the people facing charges from Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling" Link

What is your point? Trumps inner-circle were a bunch of corrupt swamp monsters, but Trump didn't collude with Russia... I could have told you that before the Mueller report...
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Did Mitt call out McCain for delivering the fake Dossier to the FBI?[/]  Seems like I remember Mitt calling him a hero and patriot.
Trump has a long list of good things he said about McCain.

So does Huckabee who has been quoted in this thread.

Trump has praised McCain long and hard...

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Could you name those going to jail and the crimes they committed?
Trump should be going to jail for importing illegal immigrants... But he isn't. Is that your point.

Trump should be going to jail for criminalizing gun parts possession... But he isn't...

Hillary certainly isn't. Her immunity came from Trump. Obama has Presidential immunity.

"All of the people facing charges from Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling" Link

What is your point? Trumps inner-circle were a bunch of corrupt swamp monsters, but Trump didn't collude with Russia... I could have told you that before the Mueller report...
How about straight up answering his first question?

[B]Did Mitt call out McCain for delivering the fake Dossier to the FBI?
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Trump is there because WE put him there so every time you disparage him you do the same to the 60 million you wish would vote for your sorry ass.
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Do you remember the promises Trump made to get people to put him there.

Gun rights.

"Deportation force."

"Lock her up!"

"Eliminate the deficit."

I think a lot of folks think Trump was telling the truth when he made those promises... Trump wasn't.
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks

Projection.

You see your own problems and issues in others.

Seek professional help, friend.
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Mittens and swallow-well need to just.... "disappear".
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You have your politicians confused.  
- Mike Huckabee is highly regarded in pro-gun, small-government circles.
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You have your politicians confused.  
- Mike Huckabee is highly regarded in pro-gun, small-government circles.
Huckabee is for a, "pathway to citizenship," promotes big-government solutions, and fought long and hard for legal protections for illegal immigrants.

No, Huckabee is not held in any regard by pro-gun, small government conservatives...

Huckabee pushed for legal protections and government hand-outs to entice illegals to enter the US... Link

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- Mitt Romney is highly detested in pro-gun, small-government circles.  Governor Mitt Romney signed a permanent assault weapons ban, and said that "Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts."  
Trump has said and done worse.

Unlike Trump, who has restricted gun rights... Romneys 2004 law was an expansion over the permanent, comprehensive 1998 MA AWB... Link

Trumps anti-gun, "take the guns first," followers will  focus on what Romney "said." Ignoring the actual law.

They focus on what was, "said," because Trump has (at times) "said" very, very pro-gun things... In addition to saying (and doing, and funding) anti-gun things.

The lesson in dealing with Trumps anti-gun, "take the guns first," followers is: focus on what a politician does, not what they say.

Trump can (at times), "say" pro-gun things. He can also push for anti-gun things... So Trumps, "take the guns first," followers will focus on what Romney (or Trump, or whoever) *said.*

Focus on what a politician does, not what they say.

Romney was playing MA Democrats for fools. Read his 2004 pro-gun law that over-turned the worst aspects of the permanent, comprehensive 1998 MA AWB... Link There is not *a* aspect that is not an increase in rights over the 1998 MA AWB...

Watch carefully. Trump will say one thing (tough on immigration, tough on gun rights) then do another (give amnesty, restrict gun freedoms). Romney did the same in MA, except the opposite. Romney played MA Democrats for fools, and passed a start-to-finish pro-gun law. Read the links for yourself.
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Like Jane Fonda, perched on an NVA AA mount, Romney gives aid and comfort to the enemy of a free America and, as such and like Hanoi Jane, is also an enemy of free Americans
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I think the comparison to Jane Fonda stabbing Americans in the back is more like this picture of Trump stabbing conservative gun owners in the back...



That right there is your Hanoi Jane.

Romney did not say anything that small government conservative gun owners did not already know. We already knew that open-borders, anti-gun Democrats like Jared Kushner were running Trumps policy decisions. We already knew Trump surrounded himself with folks who want to restrict our rights and take our freedoms away.

We already knew all that.

Romney repeats it, and he is suddenly lock-step in line with Trump and Democrats now with Hanoi Jane... WTF?
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You can’t have it both ways. If Trump is a scumbag democrat in disguise then his endorsement of Romney makes him also a scumbag democrat in disguise.
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Trump removed the disguise when he met with Democrats to announce his policy-shift back to the Democrat Party on gun rights.

"Take the guns first."

If you cannot see that, you have not been paying attention.

Romney did not ask for Trumps endorsement... And there were Republicans on the Convention Ballot at the time who had supported and endorsed, Trump from day-one of Trumps campaign. Trump endorsed Romney.

Trump is a scumbag Democrat on gun rights, increasing government power, immigration (amnesty), and increasing deficit spending. There is no argument there. Only Trumps most ardent and extreme anti-gun, "take the guns first," followers/puppets can spin it any other way. Trump is a scumbag Democrat. Trump lets lifelong (Trump was back and forth) Democrat Jared Kushner call all the shots in the Trump White House. Only Trumps most ardent and extreme, "take the guns first," followers will argue against that. Trump is a scumbag Democrat on many issues. No question. No argument.

The question is... Is Trump a worse Democrat or is a Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat worse... That is the honest question.

Trump is a lesser-evil candidate all day long. Trump is a compromise candidate.

Trump is going to get re-elected. Trumps second term will bring Trumpcare, more gun restrictions (bypassing congress, after another, "emergency") and more debt to China...

But he is better than any Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat like Kamala Harris... I am not a, "never-Trumper," I have always advocated voting for, "amnesty for illegals," Trump over any Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat like Harris or Hillary. Trump can stomach supporting and funding them. I can only stomach voting against them...
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Just like Hillary, Mitt had to move his residence to a friendly state to get elected to the Senate.  
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Just like Hillary, Mitt had to move his residence to a friendly state to get elected to the Senate.  
That is not quite accurate.

Watch Trumps, "take the guns first," followers closely. They mix a little truth with a little lies... The Trump spin machine, lol, rofl.

Romney had lived in Utah --total, counting College and the Olympics-- many years longer than Hatch, who Romney was replacing, when Hatch had run.

Neither had been born in Utah. Both were considered favorite sons of Utah. Romney from his Olympics leadership...

Romney had not intended to run when he moved to Utah after his loss to Obama in 2012. Hatch is who talked Romney into it, when Hatch started to drop in the polls...


Hatch had something else in mind. He was 83 years old, his eyesight was failing and he faced mounting pressure from within his state not to run for an eighth term. Hatch was done, too.

But Hatch worried that four decades of political capital and clout he’d built for Utah would evaporate if a rank freshman took his place. The best solution, the longest serving Republican senator ever decided, was Romney, a household name among mainstream conservatives around the country and someone with the gravitas and connections to make an immediate impact like few other junior senators could.

Hatch came to Romney’s hotel room at the downtown Marriott, but instead of asking for money, he handed Romney a three-page memo explaining why he should run for his seat. “I was frankly flabbergasted,” Romney says.

He also wasn’t convinced.

“I had moved on to the next phase of my life, and Sen. Hatch comes along and says, ‘Hey, why don't you come to the United States Senate?'” Romney recalls. “It's like, you know, I don't need that now.”
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Romney did not move to Utah to run. He moved to Utah to be closer to his grandkids and to retire where he was a popular figure... His running was to keep Hatches seat in Republican hands...
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How about straight up answering his first question?

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Is that the standard of conservativism?

Romney was a nobody when that went down. Romney has been in the Senate for less than a year... The investigation has been going-on since Tillerson (who accuses Trump of being a criminal) was picked over Romney to be the SOS.

McCain ended up with the fake dossier. Graham told McCain to go to the FBI. Romney is not part of that equation at all. Not at all.

Romney told Trump to pull his punches on McCain, and Trump has his own set of, "I love McCain," statements... But Romney has not been part of this coup at all.

Romney was almost brought-in as SOS. Trump went with Tillerson. Tillerson says Trump is a criminal. Romney was never brought-in.

Romney is now a Senator... Romney had nothing to do with any of that stuff that McCain and Graham and others have their hands on...

Did Romney get involved in the collusion nonsense? No. Did Romney make any statements on the Dossie, or the Mueller investigation until he had all the facts? No.

Did Romney defend McCain, as Trump has and had done? Sure. Do I agree with it? No. I think Trump was retarded to support and praise McCain in the past. Romney --if you remember-- was castigated for calling-out McCain in 2008...
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lol
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Roo hypocrisy..it is even worse than the most leftist leftist..his hero Romney...Must suck when your hero is a proven POS liar....

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Roo hypocrisy..it is even worse than the most leftist leftist..his hero Romney...Must suck when your hero is a proven POS liar....

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You know you are going to keep him up all night now?...lol.
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Lolololololol!  

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I think the comparison to Jane Fonda stabbing Americans in the back is more like this picture of Trump stabbing conservative gun owners in the back...

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That right there is your Hanoi Jane.

Romney did not say anything that small government conservative gun owners did not already know. We already knew that open-borders, anti-gun Democrats like Jared Kushner were running Trumps policy decisions. We already knew Trump surrounded himself with folks who want to restrict our rights and take our freedoms away.

We already knew all that.

Romney repeats it, and he is suddenly lock-step in line with Trump and Democrats now with Hanoi Jane... WTF?
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But that's deflection. Romney also--even more so--parrots the DNC talking points. He supports DNC positions. He backs up democrats.  You can't say Trump is evil and in the same breath worship Romney who does the exact same things you bitch about Trump doing.
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Trump removed the disguise when he met with Democrats to announce his policy-shift back to the Democrat Party on gun rights.

"Take the guns first."

If you cannot see that, you have not been paying attention.

Romney did not ask for Trumps endorsement... And there were Republicans on the Convention Ballot at the time who had supported and endorsed, Trump from day-one of Trumps campaign. Trump endorsed Romney.

Trump is a scumbag Democrat on gun rights, increasing government power, immigration (amnesty), and increasing deficit spending. There is no argument there. Only Trumps most ardent and extreme anti-gun, "take the guns first," followers/puppets can spin it any other way. Trump is a scumbag Democrat. Trump lets lifelong (Trump was back and forth) Democrat Jared Kushner call all the shots in the Trump White House. Only Trumps most ardent and extreme, "take the guns first," followers will argue against that. Trump is a scumbag Democrat on many issues. No question. No argument.

The question is... Is Trump a worse Democrat or is a Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat worse... That is the honest question.

Trump is a lesser-evil candidate all day long. Trump is a compromise candidate.

Trump is going to get re-elected. Trumps second term will bring Trumpcare, more gun restrictions (bypassing congress, after another, "emergency") and more debt to China...

But he is better than any Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat like Kamala Harris... I am not a, "never-Trumper," I have always advocated voting for, "amnesty for illegals," Trump over any Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat like Harris or Hillary. Trump can stomach supporting and funding them. I can only stomach voting against them...
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Again, you deflect the point.  If Trump is a deceitful democrat in disguise, what does that make Romney, WHOM HE SUPPORTED in the senate race?  Trump supported Romney, that, by your definition, makes him a " Trump-supported Democrat," by your own words and reasoning.
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Again, you deflect the point.  If Trump is a deceitful democrat in disguise, what does that make Romney, WHOM HE SUPPORTED in the senate race?  Trump supported Romney, that, by your definition, makes him a " Trump-supported Democrat," by your own words and reasoning.
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Trump removed the disguise when he met with Democrats to announce his policy-shift back to the Democrat Party on gun rights.

"Take the guns first."

If you cannot see that, you have not been paying attention.

Romney did not ask for Trumps endorsement... And there were Republicans on the Convention Ballot at the time who had supported and endorsed, Trump from day-one of Trumps campaign. Trump endorsed Romney.

Trump is a scumbag Democrat on gun rights, increasing government power, immigration (amnesty), and increasing deficit spending. There is no argument there. Only Trumps most ardent and extreme anti-gun, "take the guns first," followers/puppets can spin it any other way. Trump is a scumbag Democrat. Trump lets lifelong (Trump was back and forth) Democrat Jared Kushner call all the shots in the Trump White House. Only Trumps most ardent and extreme, "take the guns first," followers will argue against that. Trump is a scumbag Democrat on many issues. No question. No argument.

The question is... Is Trump a worse Democrat or is a Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat worse... That is the honest question.

Trump is a lesser-evil candidate all day long. Trump is a compromise candidate.

Trump is going to get re-elected. Trumps second term will bring Trumpcare, more gun restrictions (bypassing congress, after another, "emergency") and more debt to China...

But he is better than any Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat like Kamala Harris... I am not a, "never-Trumper," I have always advocated voting for, "amnesty for illegals," Trump over any Trump-funded, Trump-supported Democrat like Harris or Hillary. Trump can stomach supporting and funding them. I can only stomach voting against them...
Again, you deflect the point.  If Trump is a deceitful democrat in disguise, what does that make Romney, WHOM HE SUPPORTED in the senate race?  Trump supported Romney, that, by your definition, makes him a " Trump-supported Democrat," by your own words and reasoning.
Reasoning, you can't bring that word into a conversation with a ROO....it does not exist in their vocabulary..thats like saying liberals use logic..its a no go......
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 4:43:19 PM EST
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Romney seems like a pedophile, too.
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Again, you deflect the point.  If Trump is a deceitful democrat in disguise, what does that make Romney, WHOM HE SUPPORTED in the senate race?  Trump supported Romney, that, by your definition, makes him a " Trump-supported Democrat," by your own words and reasoning.
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Mittens didn't turn down that support either, he sure didn't seem to dislike Trump before he won his Senate seat. Of course, now that he's in he betrays the guy that supported him and helped him win that Senate seat.
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Mittens didn't turn down that support either, he sure didn't seem to dislike Trump before he won his Senate seat. Of course, now that he's in he betrays the guy that supported him and helped him win that Senate seat.
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Again, you deflect the point.  If Trump is a deceitful democrat in disguise, what does that make Romney, WHOM HE SUPPORTED in the senate race?  Trump supported Romney, that, by your definition, makes him a " Trump-supported Democrat," by your own words and reasoning.
Mittens didn't turn down that support either, he sure didn't seem to dislike Trump before he won his Senate seat. Of course, now that he's in he betrays the guy that supported him and helped him win that Senate seat.
That's lack of integrity right there.  I don't know a single LDS person who would pull that disloyal bullshit.
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But that's deflection. Romney also--even more so--parrots the DNC talking points. He supports DNC positions. He backs up democrats.  You can't say Trump is evil and in the same breath worship Romney who does the exact same things you bitch about Trump doing.
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I think the comparison to Jane Fonda stabbing Americans in the back is more like this picture of Trump stabbing conservative gun owners in the back...

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IuyyHajW89Y/XI1YkVL1E5I/AAAAAAAABg8/TiWB6NP8P_U9kYoemfbbtHgxeM1eSP-mwCLcBGAs/s320/GRABBER.png

That right there is your Hanoi Jane.

Romney did not say anything that small government conservative gun owners did not already know. We already knew that open-borders, anti-gun Democrats like Jared Kushner were running Trumps policy decisions. We already knew Trump surrounded himself with folks who want to restrict our rights and take our freedoms away.

We already knew all that.

Romney repeats it, and he is suddenly lock-step in line with Trump and Democrats now with Hanoi Jane... WTF?
But that's deflection. Romney also--even more so--parrots the DNC talking points. He supports DNC positions. He backs up democrats.  You can't say Trump is evil and in the same breath worship Romney who does the exact same things you bitch about Trump doing.
Roo, Doc is a pretty smart guy.  How can you disagree?
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Roo hypocrisy..it is even worse than the most leftist leftist..his hero Romney...Must suck when your hero is a proven POS liar....
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Romney a flip-flopper?

I bet you think Trumps, "deportation force," is going to start deporting illegals soon, and Hillary is going to Prison... Lol, rofl.

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But that's deflection. Romney also--even more so--parrots the DNC talking points. He supports DNC positions. He backs up democrats.  You can't say Trump is evil and in the same breath worship Romney who does the exact same things you bitch about Trump doing.
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I don't know what to say.

Trump did the bidding of the DNC on gun rights and immigration... But his words were something else.

Trump one day said we need tough immigration, the next he signed amnesty for illegals, and long-term legal protections to DACA illegals.

His words don't match the DNC, but his actions do match the DNC.

On what position does Romney side with the DNC?

On land use in The West, Romney is for more state rights... Opposite of the DNC.

Romney supports gun rights... Opposite of the DNC.

What position does Romney side with the DNC?
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Romney a flip-flopper?

I bet you think Trumps, "deportation force," is going to start deporting illegals soon, and Hillary is going to Prison... Lol, rofl.

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Memer when Romney was pro choice? I memer.
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Romney did not move to Utah to run. He moved to Utah to be closer to his grandkids and to retire where he was a popular figure... His running was to keep Hatches seat in Republican hands...
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Just like Hillary, Mitt had to move his residence to a friendly state to get elected to the Senate.  
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Romney did not move to Utah to run. He moved to Utah to be closer to his grandkids and to retire where he was a popular figure... His running was to keep Hatches seat in Republican hands...
So you're saying Romney decided to live in Utah, to be closer to his grandkids.  
And a couple of years later, Romney decided that he'd rather be in Washington (as a Senator) than be closer to his grandkids.

Excellent example of Romney's flip-flopping.
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You know don't you that hardly anyone reads your posts now.....I used to out of a sense of fairness but I just gave up because they are so off the wall. You should really quit while you are behind.
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This right here. I used to read most of it but finally got tired of the Romney Romney Romney crap. Guess the Mormons stick together till the bitter end. Most of what he says is horse crap.  Adventist in my area are much the same. The church above all else.
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This is disturbing, I have never witnessed a public knob polishing.
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