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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:00:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope the new Speaker of the House has balls of steel . He doesn’t even have the cojones to purchase equities or real estate so if you’re looking for action he’s not your guy ( think Low T Mike Pence ). |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:01:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do find it strange that a guy in since 2002 never deployed. Quote HistoryQuoted: I do find it strange that a guy in since 2002 never deployed. That's fuckin wierd. Quoted: Quoted: It took the Bureau five years to run down Eric Rudolph They never did. Locals got him IIRC. Good memory, didn't he get nabbed raiding the same dumpster more than once? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:02:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a counter is needed for #ItsTheGuns that's trending. If it was the guns, Switzerland would have blood running in the streets. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:02:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It took the Bureau five years to run down Eric Rudolph I may be wrong here, but didn't Rudolph have help from sympathizers? I don't think this guy is going to get that. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:03:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They never did. Locals got him IIRC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It took the Bureau five years to run down Eric Rudolph They never did. Locals got him IIRC. 21-year-old rookie officer in the Murphy, NC PD. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:03:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I may be wrong here, but didn't Rudolph have help from sympathizers? I don't think this guy is going to get that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It took the Bureau five years to run down Eric Rudolph I may be wrong here, but didn't Rudolph have help from sympathizers? I don't think this guy is going to get that. Yes. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:04:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was a she, Suzanna Hupp. Heres the video of her testimony before congress about the 2nd Amendment.  Dr. Suzanna Hupp Testimony Before Congress on the 2nd Amendment ETA - beaten like a red-headed stepchild, as usual. But i dont care, because that is such a powerful tape, it should be watched over and over, by all, every time there a shooting like this. IMHO YMMV |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:05:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in that area. Some backroads, but that's about it. A couple of trails that might take you a mile or so. What intrigues me is the timing: 6:56, calls come in at the bowling alley 7:08, calls come in from the pool hall. I know both these places well, I was born and raised in Lewiston (family still lives there, they are safe). With no traffic it's a 11-14 minute drive between the two. Google maps says that at that time of day it's closer to a 16 minute drive. I haven't read all pages, but has a "multiple shooter" been discussed? Hmmm... That is interesting, isn't it? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:06:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I may be wrong here, but didn't Rudolph have help from sympathizers? I don't think this guy is going to get that. I would sure as shit hope not. I'm hearing a couple of the dead charged the gunman after getting their families to safety. Michael Deslauriers II and a friend charged the gunman while unarmed. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:06:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He got away. He is either bear food or literally gone never to be caught. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s been 24hrs and he’s still at large? Damn He got away. He is either bear food or literally gone never to be caught. Yeah, like that Atlanta Olympics park bomber back in the ‘90s - the event the FBI arrested Richard Jewel for. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:07:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it was the guns, Switzerland would have blood running in the streets. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like a counter is needed for #ItsTheGuns that's trending. If it was the guns, Switzerland would have blood running in the streets. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:09:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm... That is interesting, isn't it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not in that area. Some backroads, but that's about it. A couple of trails that might take you a mile or so. What intrigues me is the timing: 6:56, calls come in at the bowling alley 7:08, calls come in from the pool hall. I know both these places well, I was born and raised in Lewiston (family still lives there, they are safe). With no traffic it's a 11-14 minute drive between the two. Google maps says that at that time of day it's closer to a 16 minute drive. I haven't read all pages, but has a "multiple shooter" been discussed? Hmmm... That is interesting, isn't it? Shows 11-12 min for me on Google Maps right now. Certainly wouldn't be impossible for him to speed. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:09:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm... That is interesting, isn't it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not in that area. Some backroads, but that's about it. A couple of trails that might take you a mile or so. What intrigues me is the timing: 6:56, calls come in at the bowling alley 7:08, calls come in from the pool hall. I know both these places well, I was born and raised in Lewiston (family still lives there, they are safe). With no traffic it's a 11-14 minute drive between the two. Google maps says that at that time of day it's closer to a 16 minute drive. I haven't read all pages, but has a "multiple shooter" been discussed? Hmmm... That is interesting, isn't it? ehh that long with stop lights going the speed limit 25. lot less if you speed a bit |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:10:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NBC News just interviewed an Army reservist in motorcycle attire who said he was trained on the M16 by Card. Said Card is smart, knows how to handle himself and that “they really need soldiers here, not just police”. That could be the narrative the Left will try to use to “justify” that domestic police force they want to create that’s just as well funded and equipped as the military  |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:10:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ehh that long with stop lights going the speed limit 25. lot less if you speed a bit Why wouldn't he speed and run lights if need be? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:11:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Obesity is killing Americans every day. #ItsTheForks A few years ago I read that more people fall out of bed and die then get killed by what the media and dems call an Assault Weapon. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:11:14 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It took the Bureau five years to run down Eric Rudolph Well they are retards, so… |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:11:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From Army Crimes: Sgt. 1st Class Robert R. Card II is a petroleum supply specialist in the Army Reserve who enlisted in December 2002, Card’s awards include the Army Achievement Medal, Army Reserve Component Achievement Medal x2, Humanitarian Service Medal, National Defense Service Medal and Army Service Ribbon. He has no combat deployments. https://www.armytimes.com/news/2023/10/26/maine-mass-shooting-suspect-is-an-army-reservist/ ************** May very likely have been able to shoot and teach. That likely wasn't his primary role in the USAR, but who knows. I do find it strange that a guy in since 2002 never deployed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: NBC News just interviewed an Army reservist in motorcycle attire who said he was trained on the M16 by Card. Said Card is smart, knows how to handle himself and that “they really need soldiers here, not just police”. From Army Crimes: Sgt. 1st Class Robert R. Card II is a petroleum supply specialist in the Army Reserve who enlisted in December 2002, Card’s awards include the Army Achievement Medal, Army Reserve Component Achievement Medal x2, Humanitarian Service Medal, National Defense Service Medal and Army Service Ribbon. He has no combat deployments. https://www.armytimes.com/news/2023/10/26/maine-mass-shooting-suspect-is-an-army-reservist/ ************** May very likely have been able to shoot and teach. That likely wasn't his primary role in the USAR, but who knows. I do find it strange that a guy in since 2002 never deployed. No combat deployments. Not no deployments |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:12:33 PM EDT
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People have private ranges. Minot. Gun shots aren't a surprise there.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:13:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:13:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:13:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They never did. Locals got him IIRC. Yep. Caught him dumpster diving. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:14:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this post we learn that you would be a murdering savage if you didn't believe you would be punished in the afterlife. What stops me from doing it? Maybe it's just because I was raised correctly and I'm not on meds? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nope. It's Atheism. Mass shootings are suicides. No fear of eternal damnation anymore. No respect for human life. No belief in right or wrong. If there is no God, then people, even children, are just animals. What stops me from doing it? Maybe it's just because I was raised correctly and I'm not on meds? There were more homicides back when the country was more religious. The US is the most religious country in the developed world as well by a large margin, yet we have more mass murder incidents. I'm doubting the lack of religion has much to do with it. Probably has to do with a few things. For one, life is better overall, but when you find yourself in a tough spot that loss can hit you hard. The relative fall or knowledge of what life could be compared to your current situation takes a greater toll that constant, consistent lows. Before the 1960s life sucked for most people but most people didn't have enough time to dwell on it. Other countries have grown with this realization and try and prevent sudden lows. People have more vacation time and sick time to sort out life issues, and health care is more proactive rather than reactive. Many Americans just skip getting checkout because they're worried about some hidden bill. Even here you can read about people complain about expensive bills for quick doctor visits. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:14:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:15:33 PM EDT
[#25]
Seems like they have him narrowed down to a smaller area now.
Edit- Reporters saying they hear police telling him to come out with his hands up. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:16:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:17:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No combat deployments. Not no deployments . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: NBC News just interviewed an Army reservist in motorcycle attire who said he was trained on the M16 by Card. Said Card is smart, knows how to handle himself and that “they really need soldiers here, not just police”. From Army Crimes: Sgt. 1st Class Robert R. Card II is a petroleum supply specialist in the Army Reserve who enlisted in December 2002, Card’s awards include the Army Achievement Medal, Army Reserve Component Achievement Medal x2, Humanitarian Service Medal, National Defense Service Medal and Army Service Ribbon. He has no combat deployments. https://www.armytimes.com/news/2023/10/26/maine-mass-shooting-suspect-is-an-army-reservist/ ************** May very likely have been able to shoot and teach. That likely wasn't his primary role in the USAR, but who knows. I do find it strange that a guy in since 2002 never deployed. No combat deployments. Not no deployments . Exactly. Most reservists deployed to OIF woulda been doing convoys ( AKA - 90% of the outside the wire stuff ). |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:18:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:18:31 PM EDT
[#29]
He's on a boat.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:19:28 PM EDT
[#30]
CNN is there live. The police are talking to/apprehending someone.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:19:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's on a boat. He has a sense of flair. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:19:43 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's on a boat. In the water or in a yard? He trying to hide like the boston bomber? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:19:50 PM EDT
[#33]
LIVE
LE at his house. "We know you're in there. Come out with your hands up". |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:20:19 PM EDT
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currently SWAT at a house in Lisbon Me. at a property cconnected to te suspect.
reported by ABC News |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:20:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LIVE LE at his house. "We know you're in there. Come out with your hands up". |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:20:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, like that Atlanta Olympics park bomber back in the ‘90s - the event the FBI arrested Richard Jewel for. That is incorrect. Jewell was never arrested nor formally charged. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:21:23 PM EDT
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Live:
 Search continues for Lewiston mass shooting suspect |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:21:24 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not exactly. Lubys Cafeteria 30 years ago. The patron, a female medical doctor was eating there with her parents when the shooter crashed a pick up truck into the building and began shooting. Her parents were killed. There was no “posted” or CCW in Texas at the time. She testified in hearings before the state legislature about leaving her handgun in her car because at the time there was no CCW in Texas, there was only a loophole that let people legally carry a gun in their car. Her testimony regarding that experience was critical to Texas, finally passing CCW licensing legislation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wasn’t there a restaurant in tx that was shot up 20-30yrs ago? One of the patrons that was killed left his CCW in the vehicle as the restaurant was posted. IIRC his family sued the restaurant and won. Not exactly. Lubys Cafeteria 30 years ago. The patron, a female medical doctor was eating there with her parents when the shooter crashed a pick up truck into the building and began shooting. Her parents were killed. There was no “posted” or CCW in Texas at the time. She testified in hearings before the state legislature about leaving her handgun in her car because at the time there was no CCW in Texas, there was only a loophole that let people legally carry a gun in their car. Her testimony regarding that experience was critical to Texas, finally passing CCW licensing legislation. I met her in 1995, I was in Columbus, Ohio along with her, Larry Pratt, David Kopel, and about two dozen others testifying in favor of CCW for Ohio. It was the beginning of our concealed carry push. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:22:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not policing shit. I just find the conspiracy theory bullshit tiresome and childish. You're free to make up or insinuate whatever risible garbage you like. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So weird that this mass shooting happened just as Judge Benitez’s California assault weapons ban ruling is about to go to the Supreme Court, possibly setting the precedent that all of those bans are illegal. Very weird indeed. So who do you imagine is behind this conspiracy? Did they MK Ultra him, or was it lizard people brain control? Fucking conspiracy bullshit. I’m pretty sick of all these 22-23ers coming in and trying to police everyone’s speech and in oddly the same way. Stfu. I'm not policing shit. I just find the conspiracy theory bullshit tiresome and childish. You're free to make up or insinuate whatever risible garbage you like. neato |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:24:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: News stated "Certified Firearms Instructor". Not sure where the "Apparently false" bit is from? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For those thinking he used an issued army m4. I dont have some inside source so this is just my opinion. It's nearly impossible to get m4 out of the vault without being the supply nco. You would need to enter the locked armory (easy part if you drill there), get into the locked supply room, get into the locked vault, get into the locked m4 weapons rack, then exit the armory.. tough task. Steal a humvee? Easy assuming the batteries aren't dead. Steal an m4? I don't think so but idk I think the issue weapon theory is heavily dependent on the (apparently false) rumor that he was a "firearms instructor" and as such likely his unit's armorer (which would mean he could steal a weapon if he didn't care about ever returning it) News stated "Certified Firearms Instructor". Not sure where the "Apparently false" bit is from? Didn't the Army put out a statement that he wasn't? Still could have informally trained guys on marksmanship as an NCO without having any sort of official instructor position. Who the hell knows |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:25:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is incorrect. Jewell was never arrested nor formally charged. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, like that Atlanta Olympics park bomber back in the ‘90s - the event the FBI arrested Richard Jewel for. That is incorrect. Jewell was never arrested nor formally charged. The fbi sure made his life miserable without any reason. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:25:43 PM EDT
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Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up.
 I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:27:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. His hair grew out a little versus his driver's license photo? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:27:24 PM EDT
[#44]
Live: Search continues for Lewiston mass shooting suspect |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:28:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. He probably lost 20 pounds or more since the pic on the Left. Same guy. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:28:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. Not sure what you're seeing, but they look very similar to me. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:28:44 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm... That is interesting, isn't it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not in that area. Some backroads, but that's about it. A couple of trails that might take you a mile or so. What intrigues me is the timing: 6:56, calls come in at the bowling alley 7:08, calls come in from the pool hall. I know both these places well, I was born and raised in Lewiston (family still lives there, they are safe). With no traffic it's a 11-14 minute drive between the two. Google maps says that at that time of day it's closer to a 16 minute drive. I haven't read all pages, but has a "multiple shooter" been discussed? Hmmm... That is interesting, isn't it? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:30:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fbi sure made his life miserable without any reason. If they arrest you, you can contest it in court. If they slander and libel you to death, sucks to be you. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:30:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:31:20 PM EDT
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Eric Frien guys. That dude was 2 months in the Penn wilderness, and he was a armchair warrior.
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