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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:53:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ABC News on Youtube saying he left a suicide note for his son. ABC news lies though, so, there's that. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:54:31 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Confirm he's in the house alone and then set it on fire. Fixed it, and agree... |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:55:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I met her in 1995, I was in Columbus, Ohio along with her, Larry Pratt, David Kopel, and about two dozen others testifying in favor of CCW for Ohio. It was the beginning of our concealed carry push. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wasn’t there a restaurant in tx that was shot up 20-30yrs ago? One of the patrons that was killed left his CCW in the vehicle as the restaurant was posted. IIRC his family sued the restaurant and won. Not exactly. Lubys Cafeteria 30 years ago. The patron, a female medical doctor was eating there with her parents when the shooter crashed a pick up truck into the building and began shooting. Her parents were killed. There was no “posted” or CCW in Texas at the time. She testified in hearings before the state legislature about leaving her handgun in her car because at the time there was no CCW in Texas, there was only a loophole that let people legally carry a gun in their car. Her testimony regarding that experience was critical to Texas, finally passing CCW licensing legislation. I met her in 1995, I was in Columbus, Ohio along with her, Larry Pratt, David Kopel, and about two dozen others testifying in favor of CCW for Ohio. It was the beginning of our concealed carry push. If I remember correctly, the push for concealed carry in Ohio started with a bill to completely eliminate the offense of carrying a concealed weapon (which would've made Ohio the second constitutional carry state) in 1993, but it died in committee, and 1995 was when a concealed handgun license bill was first proposed. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:55:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Put yourself in his situation, I would not go back to any property that I had ties to in anyway. Would you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I realize that he was believed to be "on the run," but it took them 24 hours to end up at his fucking house, a few miles away? Like, none of the hundreds of cops involved thought, "gee maybe we should stick a couple cars at his house in case he comes home," and get a fucking search warrant for it? Put yourself in his situation, I would not go back to any property that I had ties to in anyway. Would you? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:55:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Somebody brain this fucker already!
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:56:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m really starting to think this guy was a horse’s ass and people didn’t like him but they acted civil to his face but talked crap about him behind his back. They knew him to be hard to hearing so they didn’t try too hard to be discrete when talking about him. He can’t me anyway right. Dude gets hearing aids and quickly discovers the truth of things and loses his fragile but violent mind. Best theory out there. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:56:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ABC news lies though, so, there's that. WMTW is a decent station from my time living there. No network is immune to lies though. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:56:50 PM EDT
[#8]
I've been travelling and am just learning about this. Very sad news. My wife is from that area. I hope the guy is found soon, and hope moreso he ends up in a bag, not the back of a police car.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:57:17 PM EDT
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Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:57:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:58:09 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: currently SWAT at a house in Lisbon Me. at a property cconnected to te suspect. reported by ABC News Maybe he will Dorner himself and burn IIRC dorner didn't light his place off, the canisters that got shot into his place did it? "Deploy burners" |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:58:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. There shouldn't be any courts involved in this. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:58:38 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you telling me all this fucking man hunt shit and this MF'er at his house? Standard tactic is to bluff the person to come when they’re not sure. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:59:04 PM EDT
[#14]
He’s not home
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:59:10 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. I find it hard to believe they haven’t been in his house yet. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:59:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I wanted to end it. “Come get me” Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I realize that he was believed to be "on the run," but it took them 24 hours to end up at his fucking house, a few miles away? Like, none of the hundreds of cops involved thought, "gee maybe we should stick a couple cars at his house in case he comes home," and get a fucking search warrant for it? Put yourself in his situation, I would not go back to any property that I had ties to in anyway. Would you? At that point you're in for a penny. Escape and evade, rearm, hit the next target. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:59:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There shouldn't be any courts involved in this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. There shouldn't be any courts involved in this. Following the law I guess... |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:00:00 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. Seems that way. Eta, beat.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:00:09 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you telling me all this fucking man hunt shit and this MF'er at his house? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:00:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WMTW is a decent station from my time living there. No network is immune to lies though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ABC news lies though, so, there's that. WMTW is a decent station from my time living there. No network is immune to lies though. Everybody hates everybody else's congressmen, but wind up re-electing their own. All media lie, none are good, not even accidentally. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:00:37 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it hard to believe they haven’t been in his house yet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. I find it hard to believe they haven’t been in his house yet. Seems pretty weird to me too. 
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:00:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. Opinions are like assholes. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:01:26 PM EDT
[#23]
DEPLOY THE BURNERS!!!
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:02:36 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They called for "Robert" to come out on the loudspeaker. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: News hasn't been able to confirm it's HIM. They're at the house calling someone out. Wish we knew why they thought he is there. Hope they're right and he's cornered. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:03:43 PM EDT
[#25]
Someone I follow on Twitter is saying Card suicided himself
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:03:46 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems pretty weird to me too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. I find it hard to believe they haven’t been in his house yet. Seems pretty weird to me too. They always order the person to come out even if they’re not sure they’re there, on the off chance they are and will comply. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:04:37 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At that point you're in for a penny. Escape and evade, rearm, hit the next target. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I realize that he was believed to be "on the run," but it took them 24 hours to end up at his fucking house, a few miles away? Like, none of the hundreds of cops involved thought, "gee maybe we should stick a couple cars at his house in case he comes home," and get a fucking search warrant for it? Put yourself in his situation, I would not go back to any property that I had ties to in anyway. Would you? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:05:05 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wish we knew why they thought he is there. Hope they're right and he's cornered. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: News hasn't been able to confirm it's HIM. They're at the house calling someone out. Wish we knew why they thought he is there. Hope they're right and he's cornered. I have no idea if the police actually think he is there. I think the media (independent included) are adding their own seasoning. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:05:11 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Confirm he's in the house and then set it on fire. Need to be able to 110% ID the remains and that he is the ONLY one in there. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:05:17 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems pretty weird to me too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. I find it hard to believe they haven't been in his house yet. Seems pretty weird to me too. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:05:34 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There were more homicides back when the country was more religious. The US is the most religious country in the developed world as well by a large margin, yet we have more mass murder incidents. I'm doubting the lack of religion has much to do with it. Probably has to do with a few things. For one, life is better overall, but when you find yourself in a tough spot that loss can hit you hard. The relative fall or knowledge of what life could be compared to your current situation takes a greater toll that constant, consistent lows. Before the 1960s life sucked for most people but most people didn't have enough time to dwell on it. Other countries have grown with this realization and try and prevent sudden lows. People have more vacation time and sick time to sort out life issues, and health care is more proactive rather than reactive. Many Americans just skip getting checkout because they're worried about some hidden bill. Even here you can read about people complain about expensive bills for quick doctor visits. Who was the last "Christian on Hard Times" mass shooter? Literally all of them are fucked up liberal / Trans/ progressive parents didn't hug me enough types - if anything these fuckers specifically have targeted Christian schools and "happy" nuclear families. The number of religious people in the US is declining rapidly, and you're seeing a huge push towards secularism at all levels (school, family and government). Anti-depressants are handed out like candy due to women being told to act like men and men encouraged to dress up like women. The progressive economic clusterfuck of our welfare state over the past 50 years has only made everything worse - and I haven't gotten to race or class warfare yet. But wait. You're telling me that the solution to the ills of our quasi socialist utopia is... MORE socialism? ObamaCare really capped healthcare costs, didn't it? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:05:49 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They always order the person to come out even if they’re not sure they’re there, on the off chance they are and will comply. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. I find it hard to believe they haven’t been in his house yet. Seems pretty weird to me too. They always order the person to come out even if they’re not sure they’re there, on the off chance they are and will comply. It was more of a statement about them not getting inside sooner. But understood. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:06:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No shit, I noticed it too. Guy on the right has beady eyes, also looks middle-eastern for sure with the curly black hair and long nose. These two pics are two different guys. Then I am sure there will be lots of people who knew Robert Card from the bowling alley coming out saying it wasn't him, right?? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:06:25 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They have been in his house, that's where they found the note he left. This is a house associated with him. If you read through the last few pages you would see this mentioned multiple times. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. I find it hard to believe they haven't been in his house yet. Seems pretty weird to me too.  Family property. Maybe he owns more than one house... |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:06:37 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ABC news lies though, so, there's that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ABC News on Youtube saying he left a suicide note for his son. ABC news lies though, so, there's that. The note was likely found at his residence on West Road. ABC had solid enough information about the warrant and what was found that they dispatched a helicopter 250 miles to cover that particular search, and nothing else. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:06:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems pretty weird to me too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. I find it hard to believe they haven’t been in his house yet. Seems pretty weird to me too. NM, answered above. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:06:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Confirm he's in the house and then set it on fire. This is not an ATF operation...... 
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:07:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alaska would be good as well but as a whole it isn't near as forested. I think I recall Alaska was 35% forested whereas Maine was over 90%. Lot of open tundra in Alaska. But I guess its so big the forested parts are just as big if not bigger then the entire state of Maine. It would work, but its a bit more isolated and harder to get to other areas if the need/desire arose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maine is among the very best states there is to be on the run like that. Might be an exhausting hunt if he isn't found soon. Can't think of a single place that would be better. A large state that is extremely isolated and low populated in most of it outside of the few cities near the bottom, near an international border ( also low populated and rural on the other side ) , near the ocean, has a lot of back trails and rivers throughout the state, and is the densest most forested state out of the entire 50. On top of that southern Maine is only six hours from NYC, and two from Boston if he wanted to try and blend in the cities instead of the woods he wouldn't need to drive as far as other places. The only downside is the cold. Pretty sure you are describing Alaska. Alaska would be good as well but as a whole it isn't near as forested. I think I recall Alaska was 35% forested whereas Maine was over 90%. Lot of open tundra in Alaska. But I guess its so big the forested parts are just as big if not bigger then the entire state of Maine. It would work, but its a bit more isolated and harder to get to other areas if the need/desire arose. In southeast Alaska where I live, we are surrounded by the Tongass national forest, at 26,100 square miles, it’s the largest in the US. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:07:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They're executing search warrants at the various family properties. The family has a dozen or more properties in the area. LE was at these properties last night, but absent exigency, they couldn't get in. Family has also made statements that don't align well with the timeline of events. if hes related to the guy I think, the family owns several farms full of barns, sheds, old abandoned houses and other great hiding places and a hell of a bunch of fields and woods. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:07:46 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone I follow on Twitter is saying Card suicided himself Most likely. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:08:26 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Deploy burners" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: currently SWAT at a house in Lisbon Me. at a property cconnected to te suspect. reported by ABC News Maybe he will Dorner himself and burn IIRC dorner didn't light his place off, the canisters that got shot into his place did it? "Deploy burners" But at least the cones made it safely back to their families. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:08:40 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't catch anything from the MSM about that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He's not married, there's a rumor that his girlfriend left him. Kids were an extrapolation from the kids toys in the Google Maps pic. @SoCalExile Did you guys ever figure out what "Laser Optic" he was using as per the stupid MSM?? I've been out in the field today so missed the midday run down MSM just being retarded about a regular red dot sight probably |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:09:04 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: NM, answered above. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. I find it hard to believe they haven’t been in his house yet. Seems pretty weird to me too. NM, answered above. Reporting is a mess. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:09:05 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone I follow on Twitter is saying Card suicided himself |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:10:00 PM EDT
[#45]
Clearing the road sounds like they are going in.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:11:02 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: NM, answered above. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fox is saying it's just a pre-breach search warrant thingy because they are getting ready to go into his house with a search warrant. A 'just in case' thing for the courts for a forced entry. I find it hard to believe they haven’t been in his house yet. Seems pretty weird to me too. NM, answered above. My best guess is at the 1007 West Road property. That's the first address LE went to last night as first word of the BOLO ID went out. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:14:00 PM EDT
[#47]
This house he might be at is 4 miles from my daughter’s condo. She has been updating me for several hours about the policevehicles screaming in all directions.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:14:12 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone I follow on Twitter is saying Card suicided himself The vast majority of mass shooters (not gang members, those aren't mass shootings by any stretch of a reasonable person's mind) either commit suicide by the time the police show up, or duke it out with the cops until getting canoed. Very few mass shooters shoot up a location and then leave to go shoot up another. Based off the reports of one of Card's vehicles being found at that boatyard, my bet is that he stole a boat and fled somewhere. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:16:29 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC dorner didn't light his place off, the canisters that got shot into his place did it? Melted a bunch of cones in the process too. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 8:18:17 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In southeast Alaska where I live, we are surrounded by the Tongass national forest, at 26,100 square miles, it’s the largest in the US. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maine is among the very best states there is to be on the run like that. Might be an exhausting hunt if he isn't found soon. Can't think of a single place that would be better. A large state that is extremely isolated and low populated in most of it outside of the few cities near the bottom, near an international border ( also low populated and rural on the other side ) , near the ocean, has a lot of back trails and rivers throughout the state, and is the densest most forested state out of the entire 50. On top of that southern Maine is only six hours from NYC, and two from Boston if he wanted to try and blend in the cities instead of the woods he wouldn't need to drive as far as other places. The only downside is the cold. Pretty sure you are describing Alaska. Alaska would be good as well but as a whole it isn't near as forested. I think I recall Alaska was 35% forested whereas Maine was over 90%. Lot of open tundra in Alaska. But I guess its so big the forested parts are just as big if not bigger then the entire state of Maine. It would work, but its a bit more isolated and harder to get to other areas if the need/desire arose. In southeast Alaska where I live, we are surrounded by the Tongass national forest, at 26,100 square miles, it’s the largest in the US. Hell, if he makes it to San Fran he can blend in with the Meth zombies. They’d never question him. |
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