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Reversible mag release. Also, apparently the rear sight is adjustable which is kind of cool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ambidextrous? Reversible mag release. Also, apparently the rear sight is adjustable which is kind of cool. So the slide catch isn't ambi |
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Better, since Beretta didn't fuck it up by putting the slide release too far back. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Looks like an HK Better, since Beretta didn't fuck it up by putting the slide release too far back. How long before someone complains they can't reach the slide release without shifting their grip? |
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being a huge beretta fan I am. I am going to have to say this is fake. If they did make a striker fired pistol they would be smart to make it compatible with 92 mags. The PX4 doesn't use 92 mags... sure it does if you add a little JB weld to them When the PX4 storm came out I got one for the wife and converted a 323rd Beretta 92 mag to work in it...has never jammed with that mag... |
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I think it's like the M&P where they tell you to pull down the sear lever with the grip tool for disassembly. In reality, all you have to do is pull the trigger. I'd be really surprised if the beretta is any different. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Need a tool to disassemble..... Keeping my Glocks. I think it's like the M&P where they tell you to pull down the sear lever with the grip tool for disassembly. In reality, all you have to do is pull the trigger. I'd be really surprised if the beretta is any different. And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. |
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Slide looks stupid. No real serrations at front and rear for gripping, just broad scalloping long the whole length of the slide? When does that get fun? Was this designed by an artist?
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And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Need a tool to disassemble..... Keeping my Glocks. I think it's like the M&P where they tell you to pull down the sear lever with the grip tool for disassembly. In reality, all you have to do is pull the trigger. I'd be really surprised if the beretta is any different. And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. It has nothing to do with "YOU" being to stupid and everything to do with the idiots that can not do it.... Lots of officers have had an ND because they did not properly clear the pistol for take down... complacency kills and you don't need a tool for the M&P you can use your finger.... |
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Kinda sorta like. Needs someone to go over it for aesthetic touches.
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And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Need a tool to disassemble..... Keeping my Glocks. I think it's like the M&P where they tell you to pull down the sear lever with the grip tool for disassembly. In reality, all you have to do is pull the trigger. I'd be really surprised if the beretta is any different. And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. I need a tool to take the slide off my M&P? I've been doing it wrong all these years |
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Reminds me of the Canik Pistols http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Wc3t1KpjUC8/maxresdefault.jpg http://www.all4shooters.com/en/home/pistols/2015-news/Beretta-APX-semi-automatic-pistol-9x19mm-9x21mmIMI-40-Smith-Wesson-IDEX-Abu-Dhabi/Beretta-APX-9x19mm-9x21mm-40S&W-semi-automatic-pistol-08.jpg?resize=540x View Quote Yeah but the Canik has real serrations for gripping. You know, for racking the slide, when wearing gloves, or when your fingers or the slide are wet or bloody, making gripping surface texture more important. That artsy fartsy Beretta has no real serrations, front or rear. That's just dumb. Can't see buying a semi-auto slide pistol without any kind of real grip serrations. I'm going with "what were they thinking?" |
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I like Beretta but this new pistol makes me wonder they are failing so hard
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Reminds me of the Canik Pistols http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Wc3t1KpjUC8/maxresdefault.jpg http://www.all4shooters.com/en/home/pistols/2015-news/Beretta-APX-semi-automatic-pistol-9x19mm-9x21mmIMI-40-Smith-Wesson-IDEX-Abu-Dhabi/Beretta-APX-9x19mm-9x21mm-40S&W-semi-automatic-pistol-08.jpg?resize=540x Which take Beretta 92 mags. NO shit? I did not know that. Suddenly slightly interested in one. |
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Reminds me of the Canik Pistols http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Wc3t1KpjUC8/maxresdefault.jpg http://www.all4shooters.com/en/home/pistols/2015-news/Beretta-APX-semi-automatic-pistol-9x19mm-9x21mmIMI-40-Smith-Wesson-IDEX-Abu-Dhabi/Beretta-APX-9x19mm-9x21mm-40S&W-semi-automatic-pistol-08.jpg?resize=540x Which take Beretta 92 mags. NO shit? I did not know that. Suddenly slightly interested in one. Yes. I don't know why more people don't know this about them. I've been looking at the Caniks hard. They really are a very high quality made piece. |
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<snip>When the PX4 storm came out I got one for the wife and converted a 323rd Beretta 92 mag to work in it...has never jammed with that mag... Please post pics of wife and magazine. sorry it is a 32rd mag and wife pics are posted in other threads |
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You know what would make that look good? If it had the words "GRIP ZONE" embossed in big letters on the grip. |
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<snip>When the PX4 storm came out I got one for the wife and converted a 323rd Beretta 92 mag to work in it...has never jammed with that mag... Please post pics of wife and magazine. sorry it is a 32rd mag and wife pics are posted in other threads LOL. Darn, I wanted to see how she handled a 323 round magazine. |
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Is it just me, or does it look like it has the sort of sub-chassis like the P250 or P320, which would be the part that is actually considered the firearm?
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Ambidextrous? Reversible mag release. Also, apparently the rear sight is adjustable which is kind of cool. So the slide catch isn't ambi What you need, my friend, is Grand Power K100. All ambi, all the time. |
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Reminds me of the Canik Pistols http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Wc3t1KpjUC8/maxresdefault.jpg http://www.all4shooters.com/en/home/pistols/2015-news/Beretta-APX-semi-automatic-pistol-9x19mm-9x21mmIMI-40-Smith-Wesson-IDEX-Abu-Dhabi/Beretta-APX-9x19mm-9x21mm-40S&W-semi-automatic-pistol-08.jpg?resize=540x Which take Beretta 92 mags. NO shit? I did not know that. Suddenly slightly interested in one. Yes. I don't know why more people don't know this about them. I've been looking at the Caniks hard. They really are a very high quality made piece. You sure about that? Do tell |
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Meh, lotta hate for Beretta around here. Be interesting to see how it does when people actually handle and fire one.
My thoughts in no specific order: Looks to have a Glock style trigger. Interesting to see how it does compared to the Glock, VP9 and PPQ. Has better clearance under the trigger guard than a Glock. Looks to have a low bore axis. Has a pretty high beaver tail. Grip looks pretty petit, especially the reach to the trigger from the upper part of the grip and back strap area.. Looks as though it could have changeable grip inserts. The slide cocking serrations may just be, gasp, useable. Why they put them on the whole slide seems over kill. Dovetailed front and rear sights, interesting, but a potential pain in the ass if you don't have a sight pusher set of for the gun. I carry Glocks exclusively for on duty and off duty use. Not a fan boy, they just work and have several models to choose from. Be interested to see what some actual reputable testers have to say about the gun. |
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If I gave a shit about looks I'd be carrying a Browning Hi-Power. It's a plastic pistol. They're all ugly. I care about how it shoots.
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And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Need a tool to disassemble..... Keeping my Glocks. I think it's like the M&P where they tell you to pull down the sear lever with the grip tool for disassembly. In reality, all you have to do is pull the trigger. I'd be really surprised if the beretta is any different. And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. No, the reason you don't have an M&P isn't because of the totally unneeded "tool". Stop making up stupid excuses. |
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I bought an ARX a couple months back, and love the shit out of it... but this pistol? Nope.
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Need a tool to disassemble..... Keeping my Glocks. I think it's like the M&P where they tell you to pull down the sear lever with the grip tool for disassembly. In reality, all you have to do is pull the trigger. I'd be really surprised if the beretta is any different. And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. No, the reason you don't have an M&P isn't because of the totally unneeded "tool". Stop making up stupid excuses. I have never had to use the tool on my M&P9. Finger works fine. And I have big fingers. |
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If I gave a shit about looks I'd be carrying a Browning Hi-Power. It's a plastic pistol. They're all ugly. I care about how it shoots. I'd give it a try in 9mm. View Quote This. And from the "looks" of it, there's a good chance it will perform well - as in as well as a Steyr or Caracal but with better factory support. As for Beretta, I see nothing but positives comming roum them lately; they dumped MD over the passage of more gun control there and they constantly bring new products to the market. Great company in my book. |
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Need a tool to disassemble..... Keeping my Glocks. I think it's like the M&P where they tell you to pull down the sear lever with the grip tool for disassembly. In reality, all you have to do is pull the trigger. I'd be really surprised if the beretta is any different. And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. No, the reason you don't have an M&P isn't because of the totally unneeded "tool". Stop making up stupid excuses. I have never had to use the tool on my M&P9. Finger works fine. And I have big fingers. Yup. Takes more time to get the tool out than to just reach down there with a finger and flip the switch that way. |
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This. And from the "looks" of it, there's a good chance it will perform well - as in as well as a Steyr or Caracal but with better factory support. As for Beretta, I see nothing but positives comming roum them lately; they dumped MD over the passage of more gun control there and they constantly bring new products to the market. Great company in my book. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If I gave a shit about looks I'd be carrying a Browning Hi-Power. It's a plastic pistol. They're all ugly. I care about how it shoots. I'd give it a try in 9mm. This. And from the "looks" of it, there's a good chance it will perform well - as in as well as a Steyr or Caracal but with better factory support. As for Beretta, I see nothing but positives comming roum them lately; they dumped MD over the passage of more gun control there and they constantly bring new products to the market. Great company in my book. But, but, but they make the M9 and it's shitty. Seriously, I won't hate on Beretta for making a striker fired plastic pistol. They have dine the DA/SA thing and tried to make it work even in plastic with the Storm models. A huge chunk of the police/civilian sales side is being dominated by Glock with a non DA/SA trigger setup and we see Smith and Wesson selling a lot of M&P's. Add to it the lesser sales of the XD, PPQ and now the VP9. This is where the current trend in defensive type pistols is headed. You can either play the game or continue to make pistols with an operating system that a lot of specific users are passing up. At least the trigger isn't designed to break in half when pulling it. |
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Oh wow... another polymer striker-fired "DAO because we can't think of anything else to call it" gun.
The McPistol marches on. In all seriousness though, it might be a heck of a gun... Beretta is certainly capable. We'll see. |
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Are you yankin' our chains 1911xdm? I've got a P-07 but do not own a 92, so I can not independently test this.. View Quote I have both... I guess I've got something to do when I get home. CZ75 mags aren't all that different from 92 mags, so it doesn't really surprise me on the face of it. |
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And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Need a tool to disassemble..... Keeping my Glocks. I think it's like the M&P where they tell you to pull down the sear lever with the grip tool for disassembly. In reality, all you have to do is pull the trigger. I'd be really surprised if the beretta is any different. And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta gets me. The lowly Sigma and newer SD series do not require a tool. Take down is like a Glock. Ruger P Series need the ejector lowered, but you use a finger, not fidget with a took to unlock a small sear. 92FS does not need a tool. Lol, you don't need that tool for the M&P if you have a finger nail, or a pen handy. Plus, the tool is part of the gun, what the fuck is the big deal? <---Used to own an M&P 9 |
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Yeah but the Canik has real serrations for gripping. You know, for racking the slide, when wearing gloves, or when your fingers or the slide are wet or bloody, making gripping surface texture more important. That artsy fartsy Beretta has no real serrations, front or rear. That's just dumb. Can't see buying a semi-auto slide pistol without any kind of real grip serrations. I'm going with "what were they thinking?" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Reminds me of the Canik Pistols http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Wc3t1KpjUC8/maxresdefault.jpg http://www.all4shooters.com/en/home/pistols/2015-news/Beretta-APX-semi-automatic-pistol-9x19mm-9x21mmIMI-40-Smith-Wesson-IDEX-Abu-Dhabi/Beretta-APX-9x19mm-9x21mm-40S&W-semi-automatic-pistol-08.jpg?resize=540x Yeah but the Canik has real serrations for gripping. You know, for racking the slide, when wearing gloves, or when your fingers or the slide are wet or bloody, making gripping surface texture more important. That artsy fartsy Beretta has no real serrations, front or rear. That's just dumb. Can't see buying a semi-auto slide pistol without any kind of real grip serrations. I'm going with "what were they thinking?" Yes. Because the slide of the new Beretta looks all slippery and hard to grip, what with those GIANT FUCKING RIDGES EVERY FEW INCHES. |
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And the tool is the reason I don't have an M&P. Yeah, you can take it apart like a Glock, but just the fact that S&W feesl I am too stupid to do a chamber check and need a tool to push down an ejector or decock like the Beretta actually listens to its potential customer base (LE departments that wanted a gun that you don't have to pull the trigger to take down) gets me. View Quote FIFY. I suppose the trademarked Glock "Fuck you, this is the way guns are supposed to be, deal with it!" R&D strategy is more your speed. |
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Don't we have enough of these now? Not until CZ jumps on board. ETA oh wait nvm, I think they have a striker out somewhere CZ 100 / 110? Everybody has those moments when they wake up with a splitting headache and an empty condom box and realize they just made a big mistake. That was that moment for CZ... |
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Don't we have enough of these now? Not until CZ jumps on board. ETA oh wait nvm, I think they have a striker out somewhere CZ 100 / 110? Everybody has those moments when they wake up with a splitting headache and an empty condom box and realize they just made a big mistake. That was that moment for CZ... I believe that this thread is more that speed. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1721024_.html |
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Which take Beretta 92 mags. NO shit? I did not know that. Suddenly slightly interested in one. Yes. I don't know why more people don't know this about them. I've been looking at the Caniks hard. They really are a very high quality made piece. Does the new BERETTA also take the 92 mags? Maybe some brand swapping going on here!!! Not like it would be the first time.. |
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