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Brought my 1301T to a wilderness event this weekend; we were shooting skeet and stuff.
My buddy Ben with my 1301 Tactical. Not ideal for skeet - naturally - but I still wanted to try and got away with some. Considering to purchase another one with longer barrel just for skeet - since we'll be doing much more of it next year at school (YES, our children's school here in FL is going to have a skeet team) ETA everyone was checking it out and loving it! Beretta1301 by SoloDallas, on Flickr |
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Quoted: GG&G stock adapter installed flawlessly. Perfect fit, and even the logo isn't too bad! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62064/20211018_184701_jpg-2135075.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62064/20211018_184712_jpg-2135076.JPG I freaking love this gun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62064/20211018_184811_jpg-2135080.JPG View Quote Dude I'm super jealous |
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Ok, I ordered one (1301T).
Already have the GGG adapter for the Magpul SGA stock (Mossberg) as it seems the Aridus is out of stock everywhere. Ordered the Magpul Stock. Looked at the GGG +2 and the Nordic +2. I'll probably go with the Nordic (barring different advice from on here)....as the GGG needs a separate light mount (picatinny rail) and sling attachment (although they do have a part that combines both). The Magpul stock has sling attachments on both sides, I believe? The Nordic has a hole for a QD swivel. What Sling is good for these? Any point to something like a Blackhawk that has shell loops? What attachments (flat loop QD front or clip style)? Thanks! |
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Quoted: Ok, I ordered one (1301T). Already have the GGG adapter for the Magpul SGA stock (Mossberg) as it seems the Aridus is out of stock everywhere. Ordered the Magpul Stock. Looked at the GGG +2 and the Nordic +2. I'll probably go with the Nordic (barring different advice from on here)....as the GGG needs a separate light mount (picatinny rail) and sling attachment (although they do have a part that combines both). The Magpul stock has sling attachments on both sides, I believe? The Nordic has a hole for a QD swivel. What Sling is good for these? Any point to something like a Blackhawk that has shell loops? What attachments (flat loop QD front or clip style)? Thanks! View Quote I went with the GG&G +2 solely because I couldn't find the nordic in stock anywhere. I like the nordic clamp that has the rail mount and sling attachment enough that if I find the nordic assembly in stock, I'll buy it and replace the GG&G setup. |
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Quoted: Ok, I ordered one (1301T). Already have the GGG adapter for the Magpul SGA stock (Mossberg) as it seems the Aridus is out of stock everywhere. Ordered the Magpul Stock. Looked at the GGG +2 and the Nordic +2. I'll probably go with the Nordic (barring different advice from on here)....as the GGG needs a separate light mount (picatinny rail) and sling attachment (although they do have a part that combines both). The Magpul stock has sling attachments on both sides, I believe? The Nordic has a hole for a QD swivel. What Sling is good for these? Any point to something like a Blackhawk that has shell loops? What attachments (flat loop QD front or clip style)? Thanks! View Quote Do either the Nordic or GG&G extensions come with a new spring? I'd recommend against any sling with shell loops on it. |
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Quoted: Do either the Nordic or GG&G extensions come with a new spring? I'd recommend against any sling with shell loops on it. View Quote I thought I saw that the GGG says to use the factory spring, but sends a spare? Thanks for the thought on the Sling. I'm probably going to go with the velcro holder on the side of the receiver, and I have a shotgun belt/bandoleer (assuming my waist hasn't enlarged enough it won't fit) from many years ago. So if there's a QD hole on the Nordic, get a flat QD loop and a sling that feeds through both loops (including the one on the Magpul stock)? |
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Since competition and tactical stuff have a lot of crossover, is there such a thing as a tactical quad load carrier and has anyone tried to quad load one of these, comp or tactical?
I want a tactical because it looks cool, a competition would probably be a better buy for what it will get used for, though the cop removing the head of the bad guy with the hostage on thermal is pretty convincing. |
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Only difference is this comes with the 7 shot mag tube already I codes and you have the option for the postpone stock. Everything is same otherwise.
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Quoted: I ordered the GG&G stock adapter. Also, PA has the Magpul stocks on sale for $88.78 Also just noticed Arms Unlimited sells them for even cheaper https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/342434/SGA-moss-2146086.png View Quote That's a real good deal, thanks. |
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Quoted: Posting mine as mentioned earlier above; it does look to me to be one of the latest ones but I am not really an expert on these https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51441841540_64c4ed926e_k.jpgBeretta 1301 Tactical LE by SoloDallas, on Flickr View Quote Fuck that shotgun is sexy. |
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Quoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg Shotguns, at the right range, with the right load, will physically remove a chunk of shit from your opponent and throw that shit on the floor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: One stop shots? What's next, racking the slide to scare people off? Working the action to "scare people off" has no basis in reality. A full pattern of buckshot delivered to a useful location instantaneously rendering someone incapable of continuing hostilities is a real thing. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg Shotguns, at the right range, with the right load, will physically remove a chunk of shit from your opponent and throw that shit on the floor. Absolutely. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: One stop shots? What's next, racking the slide to scare people off? Working the action to "scare people off" has no basis in reality. A full pattern of buckshot delivered to a useful location instantaneously rendering someone incapable of continuing hostilities is a real thing. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg Shotguns, at the right range, with the right load, will physically remove a chunk of shit from your opponent and throw that shit on the floor. Absolutely. Blew a woodchuck just about in half with a 12 g load of 6's at point blank range in the 70s. It was not dead immediately. Point of impact is key. |
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Quoted: Since competition and tactical stuff have a lot of crossover, is there such a thing as a tactical quad load carrier and has anyone tried to quad load one of these, comp or tactical? I want a tactical because it looks cool, a competition would probably be a better buy for what it will get used for, though the cop removing the head of the bad guy with the hostage on thermal is pretty convincing. View Quote That's a good idea and I think Safariland would be the perfect ones to design a quad load carrier with retention. Every time I see one of the tactical guys loading shells singly from a bandolier or side saddle, it makes me think that the shotgun is not really a good choice most of the time. |
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Quoted: Blew a woodchuck just about in half with a 12 g load of 6's at point blank range in the 70s. It was not dead immediately. Point of impact is key. View Quote I lit up a stray cat that was living in my tractor 20 years ago. I chased it out of the cab and peppered it up the tailpipe from about 30'. Cats are tough, that sucker dragged it's back legs around for a week before we managed to put it down. I learned my lesson about the right ammo in a shotgun. Greg LeMond and Dick Cheney validate my concerns about it. But with the right ammo... |
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Quoted: Botach has 'em for $1099. But it's Botach, so take that with a very large grain of salt. https://botach.com/beretta-1301-tactical-shotgun-w-pistol-grip-mag-extention/?avad=211021_d2449008d View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Such a relief that everywhere is out of stock on these, or you guys would have emptied my wallet yet again. https://botach.com/beretta-1301-tactical-shotgun-w-pistol-grip-mag-extention/?avad=211021_d2449008d I wouldn’t buy anything over $75 from Botach. |
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Quoted: I'm a little confused. FC is desirable because it patterns tightly, yet buckshot is desirable vs rifle only because it spreads out. I have buckshot, I'm just not sure why I want a tight pattern. There's a sweet spot, it's just a very narrow window. I don't like narrow windows. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is your agency still receiving Flite-control? Wondering if commercial sales are being sacrificed for government sales, as FC can't be found by me. Wish someone would just make and sale the wads. I could roll my own then. I'm a little confused. FC is desirable because it patterns tightly, yet buckshot is desirable vs rifle only because it spreads out. I have buckshot, I'm just not sure why I want a tight pattern. There's a sweet spot, it's just a very narrow window. I don't like narrow windows. Buck is great because it hits roughly approximate to 8x 9mm at once. |
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Quoted: Since competition and tactical stuff have a lot of crossover, is there such a thing as a tactical quad load carrier and has anyone tried to quad load one of these, comp or tactical? I want a tactical because it looks cool, a competition would probably be a better buy for what it will get used for, though the cop removing the head of the bad guy with the hostage on thermal is pretty convincing. View Quote Where do I see that video |
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Quoted: Fuck it, I'll be the test case. Ordered. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Botach...yeah I know, but I've had good luck with them...has the PG version for $1099 https://botach.com/beretta-1301-tactical-shotgun-w-pistol-grip-mag-extention/ That's a deal... Order with CC, dispute if needed. Worth gambling I think Fuck it, I'll be the test case. Ordered. Brave man. They tried to fuck me earlier this year. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Well-it-took-years-but-I-ve-finally-been-Botached-Update-Refunded/5-2493485/ TL;DR I ordered a new Leupold LCO from Botach and I was delivered a counterfeit. Botach originally told me to shove it. I escalated with PP. PP refunded me. |
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Quoted: That's a good idea and I think Safariland would be the perfect ones to design a quad load carrier with retention. Every time I see one of the tactical guys loading shells singly from a bandolier or side saddle, it makes me think that the shotgun is not really a good choice most of the time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Since competition and tactical stuff have a lot of crossover, is there such a thing as a tactical quad load carrier and has anyone tried to quad load one of these, comp or tactical? I want a tactical because it looks cool, a competition would probably be a better buy for what it will get used for, though the cop removing the head of the bad guy with the hostage on thermal is pretty convincing. That's a good idea and I think Safariland would be the perfect ones to design a quad load carrier with retention. Every time I see one of the tactical guys loading shells singly from a bandolier or side saddle, it makes me think that the shotgun is not really a good choice most of the time. I use safari land and they retain shells pretty well but don’t stand up to bumping into stuff or if you had to go prone. If you truly want to speed up tactical type reloads California competition works would be best. Grab 3 or 4 shells at a time and thumb them in. With practice it’s a pretty fast reload. There low profile and retain shells in almost any scenario. They also alow you to keep your gun up and ready to engage while your loading. |
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Quoted: I use safari land and they retain shells pretty well but don’t stand up to bumping into stuff or if you had to go prone. If you truly want to speed up tactical type reloads California competition works would be best. Grab 3 or 4 shells at a time and thumb them in. With practice it’s a pretty fast reload. There low profile and retain shells in almost any scenario. They also alow you to keep your gun up and ready to engage while your loading. View Quote Those California ones are what I use now although they don’t hold shells that well once you start running. |
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Quoted: Since competition and tactical stuff have a lot of crossover, is there such a thing as a tactical quad load carrier and has anyone tried to quad load one of these, comp or tactical? I want a tactical because it looks cool, a competition would probably be a better buy for what it will get used for, though the cop removing the head of the bad guy with the hostage on thermal is pretty convincing. View Quote I don’t think a quad load would be easy under stress in a defense situation. Especially on a tactical. The comp has the port opened up quite a bit, and it’s the longer receiver so it makes speed reloads easier. I have one of these ez8 holders, you can pretty easily grab 2, quad is possible but not ideal and would require a lot of practice to not screw up. Gunner ez8 |
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I stumbled on this thread looking for information on the 1301 tactical which I just picked up from my LGS.
I have the gg&g sga adapter and mossberg stock arriving tomorrow along with their “high vis” follower. Can’t wait to get those installed. Thanks to the those for provided feedback on the 1301 and the gg&g components. I wish I had found this thread before i listed my Nordic components mxt on eBay. I had planned to Install it before I knew beretta Introduced their “enhanced” 922r compliant version of the 1301. The Nordic comes with a new spring but they say you can reuse the stock spring so who knows. |
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Quoted: Did you see John Wick 3? I thought the new version had a bigger port like the Comps? It's confusing how many versions they have now. https://i.imgur.com/DXqF0lo.jpeg View Quote It’s not opened up like the comps, it’s really a slight bevel compared to the gen1 with sharp corners. My gen 1 tactical Gen2 tactical w/ pro lifter Comp pro (cut is the same in regular or pro, but pro gets the different lifter and red follower factory) Comp pro with even more cut for competition |
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where are you guys getting those little 1 round carriers that attach in front of the ejection port? I know there's a name for them, but I can't remember what it is. I like those.
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Quoted: where are you guys getting those little 1 round carriers that attach in front of the ejection port? I know there's a name for them, but I can't remember what it is. I like those. View Quote https://matchsaverz.com/index.html |
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Quoted: It’s not opened up like the comps, it’s really a slight bevel compared to the gen1 with sharp corners. My gen 1 tactical https://i.imgur.com/jFNyxV4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/J7qUgYY.jpg Gen2 tactical w/ pro lifter https://i.imgur.com/17CVdgz.jpg Comp pro (cut is the same in regular or pro, but pro gets the different lifter and red follower factory) https://i.imgur.com/Yeiu6IF.jpg Comp pro with even more cut for competition https://i.imgur.com/9cOzxMq.png View Quote Thanks for the detail. It looks like there are 3 types of port cuts now with all their different models. A little confusing and hard to keep track with. The funny thing about this is that TFB video that’s so popular never mentioned the port and it’s really important for loading. |
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Quoted: Brave man. They tried to fuck me earlier this year. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Well-it-took-years-but-I-ve-finally-been-Botached-Update-Refunded/5-2493485/ TL;DR I ordered a new Leupold LCO from Botach and I was delivered a counterfeit. Botach originally told me to shove it. I escalated with PP. PP refunded me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Botach...yeah I know, but I've had good luck with them...has the PG version for $1099 https://botach.com/beretta-1301-tactical-shotgun-w-pistol-grip-mag-extention/ That's a deal... Order with CC, dispute if needed. Worth gambling I think Fuck it, I'll be the test case. Ordered. Brave man. They tried to fuck me earlier this year. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Well-it-took-years-but-I-ve-finally-been-Botached-Update-Refunded/5-2493485/ TL;DR I ordered a new Leupold LCO from Botach and I was delivered a counterfeit. Botach originally told me to shove it. I escalated with PP. PP refunded me. Hell I actually just got a tracking # from Botach! |
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I just saw that Obey (James from TFBTV) commented this in the thread about him being an arfcommer:
Quoted: ETA an important comment: I was recently informed that Beretta cannot sustain demand with 1301 manufacturing in Italy, so soon-ish, they will be produced in the US as well. If you want an Italian model, get on it. View Quote |
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Quoted: There is the problem. Its obviously top tier and amazing but whats the purpose unless you are SWAT or something. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I want one of these...but I'm struggling to find an actual purpose that I'd use it for. Now my A400...I try to shoot trap weekly at the local club. Next year I think I'm buying a nicer gun for clays. There is the problem. Its obviously top tier and amazing but whats the purpose unless you are SWAT or something. That's my thinking too. I bought a M4 and shot it a bit but sold it and got a M2 Field w/ 21" barrel as it is much more useful. I did see a 1301 the other day and want it because I'm hopeless. |
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Quoted: The Nordic comes with a new spring that you cut to length. A lot of people have had success using the stock spring. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Do either the Nordic or GG&G extensions come with a new spring? I'd recommend against any sling with shell loops on it. The Nordic comes with a new spring that you cut to length. A lot of people have had success using the stock spring. You want between 12 and 14 inches of uncompressed spring sticking out the end of the tube with no cap for consistent reliable function. You might get away with less for a while until the spring fatigues some. My total tube capacity is 12 and I get excellent results with the nordic tube cut to length as described above. If you are only adding a +2 or +3 extension you might get away with a stock spring. |
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Quoted: has anyone tried to quad load one of these, comp or tactical? I want a tactical because it looks cool, a competition would probably be a better buy for what it will get used for, though the cop removing the head of the bad guy with the hostage on thermal is pretty convincing. View Quote Almost everyone opens up their loading port beyond what any factory model offers. I've never seen a receiver fail because of it. Mark Roth at Roth Performance or Steve Rose at Rose Action Sports in Kentucky can do a fantastic job for you. The comp is a better gun all the way around IMHO. pistol grips and rifle style sights have no place on a shotgun. They are a hindrance. |
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Quoted: That's a good idea and I think Safariland would be the perfect ones to design a quad load carrier with retention. Every time I see one of the tactical guys loading shells singly from a bandolier or side saddle, it makes me think that the shotgun is not really a good choice most of the time. View Quote Agreed. If your solution is to single load, you should have packed a pistol instead of extra shotgun rounds. |
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Quoted: I use safari land and they retain shells pretty well but don’t stand up to bumping into stuff or if you had to go prone. If you truly want to speed up tactical type reloads California competition works would be best. Grab 3 or 4 shells at a time and thumb them in. With practice it’s a pretty fast reload. There low profile and retain shells in almost any scenario. They also alow you to keep your gun up and ready to engage while your loading. View Quote Holy shit get out of my head. Seriously I posted before getting to your post. |
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Quoted: Those California ones are what I use now although they don’t hold shells that well once you start running. View Quote They will hold the shells perfectly while they are full. Once you grab a shell, the rest can bounce out. So you need to train to grab 4 at once. When they are full you can hang upside down or do jumping jacks and not lose shells. |
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Quoted: I don’t think a quad load would be easy under stress in a defense situation. Especially on a tactical. The comp has the port opened up quite a bit, and it’s the longer receiver so it makes speed reloads easier. I have one of these ez8 holders, you can pretty easily grab 2, quad is possible but not ideal and would require a lot of practice to not screw up. Gunner ez8 View Quote The pistol grip on the tactical makes quad loading much more difficult. |
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Quoted: I don’t think a quad load would be easy under stress in a defense situation. View Quote A bad quad load on a well ported gun is better than that lone shell over the top into the ejection port. A duo load is even easier. The hard part of quad loading is the grab. Everyone is in a hurry to grab the shells. If you grab them wrong, you aren't getting them into the gun smoothly. A good port job is essential as well. And a good lifter. The Roth Performance Quad Vacuum port is great. I did my own port slowly, by hand, with files and then cleaned up with a dremel. If I was doing it today I would send it to Steve Rose or Mark Roth. |
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Quoted: It’s not opened up like the comps, it’s really a slight bevel compared to the gen1 with sharp corners. My gen 1 tactical https://i.imgur.com/jFNyxV4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/J7qUgYY.jpg Gen2 tactical w/ pro lifter https://i.imgur.com/17CVdgz.jpg Comp pro (cut is the same in regular or pro, but pro gets the different lifter and red follower factory) https://i.imgur.com/Yeiu6IF.jpg Comp pro with even more cut for competition https://i.imgur.com/9cOzxMq.png View Quote How 3 gunners cut their ports. Those factory ports still need work. |
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