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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:50:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's it - glad someone can post it GX550 been registered since sometime in 2021 - unlike most of the visual in the fake renders, 550 been pretty sure for a couple years. . . But significance?  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The badge on the back of that clearly says GX 550. 550... https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DimGraciousGrub-size_restricted.gif That's it - glad someone can post it GX550 been registered since sometime in 2021 - unlike most of the visual in the fake renders, 550 been pretty sure for a couple years. . . But significance? Lexus has broken the model number = displacement system, but 550 probably means it'll be at least optional with something bigger than the 2.4 I4T. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:53:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that’s ugly I like it because it is boxy and kinda looks like a modern 80 series. The GX 460, while very capable and has a solid aftermarket, looks like a suburban mom grocery car in stock form. That new GX looks more like an off-road vehicle, which I figured is what they’d do with how the GX has exploded in popularity within the overland crowd the last 5–10 years. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:54:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: Here's the teaser shot: https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/1062x597/format/jpg/quality/100/https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2023/05/25100218/20230525_02_01-copy.jpg Based on the 4th Gen Tacoma, we have a pretty good idea what the platform and drive train are going to be. I think there's a pretty good chance these come standard with the hybrid engine. https://www.autoblog.com/2023/05/25/2024-lexus-gx-teaser-reveal-date/ Other than the F models are there any non-hybrid Lexus vehicles anymore? |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lexus has broken the model number = displacement system, but 550 probably means it'll be at least optional with something bigger than the 2.4 I4T. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The badge on the back of that clearly says GX 550. 550... https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DimGraciousGrub-size_restricted.gif That's it - glad someone can post it GX550 been registered since sometime in 2021 - unlike most of the visual in the fake renders, 550 been pretty sure for a couple years. . . But significance? Lexus has broken the model number = displacement system, but 550 probably means it'll be at least optional with something bigger than the 2.4 I4T. That's a safe bet, there's a hunt with the RX 500h Oh edited to add GX550h  no "+" tho  |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:07:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Needs a split tailgate like LX/TLC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still hasn't answered the most important question: Does rear door go up or swing around? They still aren't getting the best 4Runner feature in the rear window.  I honestly like the swing out door. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:07:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like it because it is boxy and kinda looks like a modern 80 series. The GX 460, while very capable and has a solid aftermarket, looks like a suburban mom grocery car in stock form. That new GX looks more like an off-road vehicle, which I figured is what they'd do with how the GX has exploded in popularity within the overland crowd the last 5 10 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fuck that's ugly I like it because it is boxy and kinda looks like a modern 80 series. The GX 460, while very capable and has a solid aftermarket, looks like a suburban mom grocery car in stock form. That new GX looks more like an off-road vehicle, which I figured is what they'd do with how the GX has exploded in popularity within the overland crowd the last 5 10 years. Humphries teams hinted at this new off-road design language here  Attached FileAlso there will be close design elements with the Prado, so the evolution was towards the "box jeep" ethos. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:07:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly like the swing out door. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Still hasn't answered the most important question: Does rear door go up or swing around? They still aren't getting the best 4Runner feature in the rear window. I honestly like the swing out door. You may be disappointed |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:08:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still hasn't answered the most important question: Does rear door go up or swing around? They still aren't getting the best 4Runner feature in the rear window. From what I saw in the video, it looks like up... |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:09:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm seriously considering getting a 2023 model. "last of the v8s" They finally added CarPlay which is something I want. I got mine in 22 thinking it was the las year... |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:18:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Made in Japan? Tahara |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:24:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Other than the F models are there any non-hybrid Lexus vehicles anymore? Most, tho most are also available as Hybrids |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:26:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tahara Is that factual or best wishes? |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 3:43:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that factual or best wishes? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tahara Is that factual or best wishes? Rarely care where things are made, (tho I love Japanese Unions), but we'll find out in 4ish hours in Austin how accurate my information is Might take a bit longer to confirm production but it will confirm some things then |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:13:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rarely care where things are made, (tho I love Japanese Unions), but we'll find out in 4ish hours in Austin how accurate my information is Might take a bit longer to confirm production but it will confirm some things then If you put it that way, I'm fairly sure that your info is credible. That's great! |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 4:43:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you put it that way, I'm fairly sure that your info is credible. That's great! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rarely care where things are made, (tho I love Japanese Unions), but we'll find out in 4ish hours in Austin how accurate my information is Might take a bit longer to confirm production but it will confirm some things then If you put it that way, I'm fairly sure that your info is credible. That's great! Let's not get crazy. Credible and ultimately accurate are often different. TMMGT was producing the E210, until it wasn't, and then, it never did. But I'm relatively confident and I occasionally develop good information |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 6:18:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAnd. . . It's gone 
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:57:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:05:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:09:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you put it that way, I'm fairly sure that your info is credible. That's great! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rarely care where things are made, (tho I love Japanese Unions), but we'll find out in 4ish hours in Austin how accurate my information is Might take a bit longer to confirm production but it will confirm some things then If you put it that way, I'm fairly sure that your info is credible. That's great! Check the press release |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:15:03 PM EDT
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So full time 4x4. 350hp/480lb-ft. 33s. Didn’t see a mention of ground clearance. Made in Japan. Up to 12 cup holders, thank goodness for that bit of information
Must say, for the amount of teasing they did that reveal video was weak. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:18:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So full time 4x4. 350hp/480lb-ft. 33s. Didn't see a mention of ground clearance. Made in Japan. Up to 12 cup holders, thank goodness for that bit of information Must say, for the amount of teasing they did that reveal video was weak. And the reveal was revealed earlier here Embargo's off tho, all the usual suspects have "insights" up, prolly worth reading couple. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:19:33 PM EDT
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I can't wait to get this new gen in 20 years when I find one with 200k miles that I can afford.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:20:35 PM EDT
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3.4 twin turbo
349 hp 479 tq 8k lb towing That’s pretty impressive. Guys that paid hyper inflated prices to snag the dying v8 might regret that decision in a few years. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:21:16 PM EDT
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I like it! ??
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:21:38 PM EDT
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It sounds like they took away kdss on the lower trims?
And only added 1 mpg… |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:22:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumor is the LC is coming back to North America. If it’s the 300 series I’ll be selling my 200 to get one. It might be the smaller LC Prado version in which case I’ll pass. I’m hearing 4 runner platform with hybrid. Keep your 200. I would want a true 300 to replace my 200 but don’t want Lexus badge |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:24:56 PM EDT
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I think it looks great and the specs are badass!
I wonder if the new LC is going to be the Yota version of this. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:26:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm hearing 4 runner platform with hybrid. Keep your 200. I would want a true 300 to replace my 200 but don't want Lexus badge Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rumor is the LC is coming back to North America. If it's the 300 series I'll be selling my 200 to get one. It might be the smaller LC Prado version in which case I'll pass. I'm hearing 4 runner platform with hybrid. Keep your 200. I would want a true 300 to replace my 200 but don't want Lexus badge Hey a guy right here said his Toyota rep told him LC 250 (Prado). You heard it here first  (@Amped) |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:36:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey a guy right here said his Toyota rep told him LC 250 (Prado). You heard it here first (@Amped)@alacrity you let me know when I'm wrong |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:41:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it looks great and the specs are badass! I wonder if the new LC is going to be the Yota version of this. Highlander > Grand Highlander : 4Runner > Prado (250) Many have questioned the viability given "minimal" differences This gets Toyota a 7 seater to replace the 8 LC 200, continue the LC nameplate at a more acceptable cost. If I was a product planner, I could see this, but you'll need to be mindful with the naming/marketing. Maybe you get something like this. All body on chassis GA-F, with similar (identical wheelbase) dimensions. The US market dev is no issue with GX me maybe this possibility baked in at design. GX - Premium, V35A, 7 Seater Prado (250) - Mid, T24A Hybrid Max, 7 Seater 4Runner - Value, T24A, 5 Seater Problem's going to be if it's merely an engine differentiating, H > GH has small but significant size increase, along with the premium engine (Hybrid Max). You also have the GX so a Prado get sandwiched - which limits feature options and differentiation Long as you're cool with a T25A i-Force Max, you may get a shot. Automotive News again yesterday fueled the speculation "Toyota Land Cruiser SUV could return to U.S. as revamped Prado". Lot of conditionals in the article tho. Normally the trademarking is the indication (and GX550 was registered in early '21) |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:41:25 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 3.4 twin turbo 349 hp 479 tq 8k lb towing That's pretty impressive. Guys that paid hyper inflated prices to snag the dying v8 might regret that decision in a few years. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:42:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @alacrity you let me know when I'm wrong Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hey a guy right here said his Toyota rep told him LC 250 (Prado). You heard it here first (@Amped)@alacrity you let me know when I'm wrong Dude I don't bet against my interests, but you protect that source |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:43:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 3.4 twin turbo 349 hp 479 tq 8k lb towing That's pretty impressive. Guys that paid hyper inflated prices to snag the dying v8 might regret that decision in a few years. On 33s, with 10spd auto, and a locking rear torsen differential. And a lift gate, which a lot of people asked for, although I'm never really bothered by my swing gate. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:48:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude I don't bet against my interests, but you protect that source Well you keep that positive mindset and once TMC releases what we already know we can of course, circle back
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:51:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it looks great and the specs are badass! I wonder if the new LC is going to be the Yota version of this. I don’t believe it will be. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:52:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is my take, Highlander > Grand Highlander : 4Runner > Prado (250) Many have questioned the viability given "minimal" differences This gets Toyota a 7 seater to replace the 8 LC 200, continue the LC nameplate at a more acceptable cost. If I was a product planner, I could see this, but you'll need to be mindful with the naming/marketing. Maybe you get something like this. All body on chassis GA-F, with similar (identical wheelbase) dimensions. The US market dev is no issue with GX me maybe this possibility baked in at design. GX - Premium, V35A, 7 Seater Prado (250) - Mid, T24A Hybrid Max, 7 Seater 4Runner - Value, T24A, 5 Seater Problem's going to be if it's merely an engine differentiating, H > GH has small but significant size increase, along with the premium engine (Hybrid Max). You also have the GX so a Prado get sandwiched - which limits feature options and differentiation Long as you're cool with a T25A i-Force Max, you may get a shot. Automotive News again yesterday fueled the speculation "Toyota Land Cruiser SUV could return to U.S. as revamped Prado". Lot of conditionals in the article tho. Normally the trademarking is the indication (and GX550 was registered in early '21) |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:54:33 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't believe it will be. Well that's interesting too!  |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:57:42 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't believe it will be. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think it looks great and the specs are badass! I wonder if the new LC is going to be the Yota version of this. I don't believe it will be. So a new Toyota LC that's not a Prado - the plot thickens |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:58:59 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well you keep that positive mindset and once TMC releases what we already know we can of course, circle back Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dude I don't bet against my interests, but you protect that source Well you keep that positive mindset and once TMC releases what we already know we can of course, circle back  Attached FileETMC - I know nothing  |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:05:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:06:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  No.You lost your chance at cheap GX's a few years ago before people discovered them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: does this mean 2020/2021s will be dropping into the low $30s No.You lost your chance at cheap GX's a few years ago before people discovered them. They are still right inline with the equivalent year 4runner limited in the used market, so I don't think they've been "discovered." |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:10:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'd probably buy that. I plan on putting a million miles on my 470 first. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:13:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So a new Toyota LC that's not a Prado - the plot thickens Maybe we have some wires crossed. I will continue to say the LC 300 will not be back in the states anytime soon. I would love to be wrong but I don’t think I will be. We will however get the LC Prado in the states. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:20:11 PM EDT
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I remember a VERY well respected Lexus technical trainer telling us about how Lexus got off the ground when dealers in California got their first LS400s. They literally wrote the playbook for how every modern dealership, regardless of brand, tries to achieve maximum customer satisfaction and brand loyalty. Their goal was to elevate the new brand into the same category as the clearly established level of car and care that Mercedes et all were in.
Lexus fought tooth and nail to ensure that owners were so well taken care of in both service and experience that the public would look at nothing but the Lexus "L" logo and have the same deference and view as someone would view the Mercedes, BMW or Audi logo. Seeing current styling remove that L for a script Lexus font badge feels ugly to this former Master tech. And frankly, I feel like I left at the right time. It wasnt the same brand as it was when I started. The old guard entrusted to get Lexus where it got to was leaving and it was obvious to us grease monkeys. /sillyrantfromaformerlexustech |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:22:48 PM EDT
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If I'm not mistaken the GX has a few more inches of headroom than the 4runner has
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:27:11 PM EDT
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Why does Lexus/Toyota have to make their vehicles look like they are made from Lego kits
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:30:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I'm not mistaken the GX has a few more inches of headroom than the 4runner has GX470 has insane headroom, especially in the 2nd/3rd row. The GX460 has more than the 4Runner but it’s not as much as the 470 because the 3rd row collapses into the floor vs the 470 that fold to the side or can be removed altogether. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe we have some wires crossed. I will continue to say the LC 300 will not be back in the states anytime soon. I would love to be wrong but I don't think I will be. We will however get the LC Prado in the states. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So a new Toyota LC that's not a Prado - the plot thickens Maybe we have some wires crossed. I will continue to say the LC 300 will not be back in the states anytime soon. I would love to be wrong but I don't think I will be. We will however get the LC Prado in the states. Do you think the new US LC will be a Yota badged GX? |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:41:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah! I see. Yes - I was aware there's no chance for a 300 in the US. I was referencing what we the new to US LC was going to be. Do you think the new US LC will be a Yota badged GX? I haven’t gotten a super clear answer on that. The LCP is probably gonna be a much more “utilitarian” version (think cloth seats and shit). Im told they shouldn’t be competing with each other and people will want to flock to the GX if that want that style and look. I’m sure we will hear more as the year goes on. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:51:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 3.4 twin turbo 349 hp 479 tq 8k lb towing That’s pretty impressive. Guys that paid hyper inflated prices to snag the dying v8 might regret that decision in a few years. I doubt many will, most would have purchased it for the longevity which is inevitably compromised to some degree by the new engine's complexity. That said, I'm glad to see them only offer ICE or hybrid and not an EV. |
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