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Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:07:51 PM EDT
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Europe already came to terms with Putin’s dilly “Winter is Coming” meme.  Given the situation, there was no way that pipeline was going to open this winter
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The protestors in Germany hadn't come to terms with what was happening. This article claims protestors wanted to "open Nordstream now". Why would Putin want to end his ability to sow division within Germany? He simply wouldn't want to end his opportunity to divide Germans because they were the weakest link in the EU's support for sanctions.

You can continue to argue otherwise all you want but it's not convincing in the least.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:13:48 PM EDT
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The protestors in Germany hadn't come to terms with what was happening. This article claims protestors wanted to "open Nordstream now". Why would Putin want to end his ability to sow division within Germany? He simply wouldn't want to end his opportunity to divide Germans because they were the weakest link in the EU's support for sanctions.

You can continue to argue otherwise all you want but it's not convincing in the least.
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Europe already came to terms with Putin’s dilly “Winter is Coming” meme.  Given the situation, there was no way that pipeline was going to open this winter


The protestors in Germany hadn't come to terms with what was happening. This article claims protestors wanted to "open Nordstream now". Why would Putin want to end his ability to sow division within Germany? He simply wouldn't want to end his opportunity to divide Germans because they were the weakest link in the EU's support for sanctions.

You can continue to argue otherwise all you want but it's not convincing in the least.



Irony.

Clearly, the protesters believe the pipeline can be repaired. So, how is this ending "sowing division?"

Here you are, in this thread, carrying more "division sowing" water for your newfound masters in the Kremlin.

Nothing has stopped, it's only ramped up.

But, your prices for natural gas are cheap. So it's all good.

Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:19:18 PM EDT
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Oh my.  Where EVERY did you find that meme.  I can guess….

The US was NOT THERE testing drones.  They were not there at all.   That’s a lie.

The Russian Navy WAS there, “detected” by everyone, conducting anti-submarine exercises.

Given the circumstances, that pipeline was not going to be open this year, or next.
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Obviously I got it from my Russian handlers. Give me some time and I'll post the next one they send out here too.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:30:21 PM EDT
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Irony.

Clearly, the protesters believe the pipeline can be repaired. So, how is this ending "sowing division?"

Here you are, in this thread, carrying more "division sowing" water for your newfound masters in the Kremlin.

Nothing has stopped, it's only ramped up.

But, your prices for natural gas are cheap. So it's all good.

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Europe already came to terms with Putin’s dilly “Winter is Coming” meme.  Given the situation, there was no way that pipeline was going to open this winter


The protestors in Germany hadn't come to terms with what was happening. This article claims protestors wanted to "open Nordstream now". Why would Putin want to end his ability to sow division within Germany? He simply wouldn't want to end his opportunity to divide Germans because they were the weakest link in the EU's support for sanctions.

You can continue to argue otherwise all you want but it's not convincing in the least.



Irony.

Clearly, the protesters believe the pipeline can be repaired. So, how is this ending "sowing division?"

Here you are, in this thread, carrying more "division sowing" water for your newfound masters in the Kremlin.

Nothing has stopped, it's only ramped up.

But, your prices for natural gas are cheap. So it's all good.



It might be able to be repaired but that would take considerable time IF someone decided to do it and IF it can be done. Clearly, it's a much more complicated and doubtful proposition that the natural gas from Russia could be turned back on.

So now pointing out your weak logic is 'sowing division'? And you start attacking my motivations? Thanks for confirming that you have no viable response to my assertions.

Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:31:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:32:03 PM EDT
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Before the pipeline was holed, Peter Zeihan talking about Russia using Nordstream to try to blackmail Germany to turn neutral with NATO. Of course it's not as effective in the summer/fall, but going into winter, it was going to be a big deal, and their people would be putting a ton of pressure on their government to make nice with Russia to stop the collapse. Pretty fucking obvious Russia didn't put a hole in their own blackmail.

https://youtu.be/BgKO53wDyWw?t=414
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:41:23 PM EDT
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It might be able to be repaired but that would take considerable time IF someone decided to do it and IF it can be done. Clearly, it's a much more complicated and doubtful proposition that the natural gas from Russia could be turned back on.

So now pointing out your weak logic is 'sowing division'? And you start attacking my motivations? Thanks for confirming that you have no viable response to my assertions.

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Europe already came to terms with Putin’s dilly “Winter is Coming” meme.  Given the situation, there was no way that pipeline was going to open this winter


The protestors in Germany hadn't come to terms with what was happening. This article claims protestors wanted to "open Nordstream now". Why would Putin want to end his ability to sow division within Germany? He simply wouldn't want to end his opportunity to divide Germans because they were the weakest link in the EU's support for sanctions.

You can continue to argue otherwise all you want but it's not convincing in the least.



Irony.

Clearly, the protesters believe the pipeline can be repaired. So, how is this ending "sowing division?"

Here you are, in this thread, carrying more "division sowing" water for your newfound masters in the Kremlin.

Nothing has stopped, it's only ramped up.

But, your prices for natural gas are cheap. So it's all good.



It might be able to be repaired but that would take considerable time IF someone decided to do it and IF it can be done. Clearly, it's a much more complicated and doubtful proposition that the natural gas from Russia could be turned back on.

So now pointing out your weak logic is 'sowing division'? And you start attacking my motivations? Thanks for confirming that you have no viable response to my assertions.



Why do you think the pipeline was turned off in the first place?
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:43:07 PM EDT
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You are an American who defected to Russia and you don’t believe my denial of the Russian narrative?

Shocking!
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Europe already came to terms with Putin’s dilly “Winter is Coming” meme.  Given the situation, there was no way that pipeline was going to open this winter


The protestors in Germany hadn't come to terms with what was happening. This article claims protestors wanted to "open Nordstream now". Why would Putin want to end his ability to sow division within Germany? He simply wouldn't want to end his opportunity to divide Germans because they were the weakest link in the EU's support for sanctions.

You can continue to argue otherwise all you want but it's not convincing in the least.

You are an American who defected to Russia and you don’t believe my denial of the Russian narrative?

Shocking!



Well, at least you stopped repeating the same inane contention over and over.


Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:44:26 PM EDT
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This isn't court "counselor".
The US government did it
like Biden said they would.
Only liberals are casting blame
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The statement referenced supports a theory of motivation. However, this is not evidence to support your claim of guilt. These are two separate things that you need to associate/link with evidence.


This isn't court "counselor".
The US government did it
like Biden said they would.
Only liberals are casting blame
everywhere except where it belongs.



If you want to have a discussion, then have. Stop with your nonsense about "liberals" this and that though. It weakens your point as I can assure you, we are not liberals.

You speak in absolutes, yet your "proof" is something Biden said 7 months ago. It's odd that a so-called conservative trusts Biden's word so much. Are you sure YOU'RE not the liberal?
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:44:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:46:02 PM EDT
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Well, at least you stopped repeating the same inane contention over and over.


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You defected to Russia? Whats wrong with you? If you hate the west so much, why do you use our technology and pollute arfcom? Surely there must be a soviet version of Arfcom, perhaps called GulagAK? I dunno... but likely you and maybe Steven Segal can swap midget porn videos or whatever it is you folks do over there all wasted on ditch water vodka...

anyhow
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:46:02 PM EDT
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Brilliant move. Now Russia has nothing in that sector to bargain with.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:50:26 PM EDT
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So Germany would have to start using the NG they have stored. It's supposed to be a two month supply and Russia needs to break the EU's solidarity before Russia's army is driven out of Ukraine.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:50:39 PM EDT
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Brilliant move. Now Russia has nothing in that sector to bargain with.
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Except for the huge number of completely undamaged pipelines. Sure, they have nothing to bargain with.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:52:29 PM EDT
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I haven’t followed any of this but why would the biden admin blow up the pipeline? Its europes lifeline and its one of the best tools to get this situation fixed.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:02:07 PM EDT
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Brilliant move. Now Russia has nothing in that sector to bargain with.
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There are other land based pipelines. Europe is still buying energy...and writing checks.

Russia supplied 40% of Europe's energy, that's a chunk.  You can't replace that in 6 months. The infrastructure to transport that amount if fossile fuel doesn't just pop up like mushrooms.

Renewables are a peak demand load shaping source at best. No amount of renewable energy without a heretofore non existent form of storage replaces the need for fossile fuels.

Most of the energy is used in places other than where it's extracted.

All this means is that no matter who blew the NS system...everybody is now committed.  

Cortez just burned his ships.  

I don't care if you've spent your adult life training to fight Russia or you still have some putin jiz on your chin...this is an escalation.

There probably won't be an off ramp now.  Russia is burning its future.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:03:57 PM EDT
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This isn't court "counselor".
The US government did it
like Biden said they would.
Only liberals are casting blame
everywhere except where it belongs.
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The statement referenced supports a theory of motivation. However, this is not evidence to support your claim of guilt. These are two separate things that you need to associate/link with evidence.


This isn't court "counselor".
The US government did it
like Biden said they would.
Only liberals are casting blame
everywhere except where it belongs.


Only liberals, huh?
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:09:28 PM EDT
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Wake me up when the Jews build a temple, a dude comes along and creates peace, and then declares himself God in said temple.

Then you’ll get my attention.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:13:27 PM EDT
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So Germany would have to start using the NG they have stored. It's supposed to be a two month supply and Russia needs to break the EU's solidarity before Russia's army is driven out of Ukraine.
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Why do you think the pipeline was turned off in the first place?


So Germany would have to start using the NG they have stored. It's supposed to be a two month supply and Russia needs to break the EU's solidarity before Russia's army is driven out of Ukraine.


So, you admit Russia lies as a basic part of its foreign policy?
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:14:36 PM EDT
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US didn't blow up Nordstream pipelines
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If you want to have a discussion, then have. Stop with your nonsense about "liberals" this and that though. It weakens your point as I can assure you, we are not liberals.

You speak in absolutes, yet your "proof" is something Biden said 7 months ago. It's odd that a so-called conservative trusts Biden's word so much. Are you sure YOU'RE not the liberal?
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But Biden did say it though, right?  I’m not trying to get at anything. I don’t want the news.

Did he actually say it?
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:27:33 PM EDT
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All this means is that no matter who blew the NS system...everybody is now committed.  

Cortez just burned his ships.  
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I'm sure this somehow brilliantly helps russia.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:28:05 PM EDT
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Why not? And who did? Who benefits here.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:52:34 PM EDT
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There are other land based pipelines. Europe is still buying energy...and writing checks.

Russia supplied 40% of Europe's energy, that's a chunk.  You can't replace that in 6 months. The infrastructure to transport that amount if fossile fuel doesn't just pop up like mushrooms.
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Brilliant move. Now Russia has nothing in that sector to bargain with.
There are other land based pipelines. Europe is still buying energy...and writing checks.

Russia supplied 40% of Europe's energy, that's a chunk.  You can't replace that in 6 months. The infrastructure to transport that amount if fossile fuel doesn't just pop up like mushrooms.

I wonder what percent of NS1 flow was delivery of long term contracts well below current spot rates?

Oh well, not like any producing nation would use manipulation of supply to prop up prices.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:57:58 PM EDT
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I'm sure this somehow brilliantly helps russia.
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All this means is that no matter who blew the NS system...everybody is now committed.  

Cortez just burned his ships.  


I'm sure this somehow brilliantly helps russia.

How exactly does this “brilliantly” help Russia?
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 9:08:32 PM EDT
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Who Sabotaged the Russian-German Pipeline?
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Link Posted: 9/30/2022 9:15:24 PM EDT
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I haven’t followed any of this but why would the biden admin blow up the pipeline? Its europes lifeline and its one of the best tools to get this situation fixed.
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You answered your own question.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 9:19:24 PM EDT
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I haven’t followed any of this but why would the biden admin blow up the pipeline? Its europes lifeline and its one of the best tools to get this situation fixed.
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Why is he destroying America?
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 9:36:06 PM EDT
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Putin had a hissy fit.

Biden isn’t going to escalate.

Russia shut it off for supposed maintenance weeks ago.

NATO monitors Russian ships/subs in area afraid target was internet cables but pipeline goes boom?

Think real hard here guys.
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This makes a lot of sense.
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I wonder what percent of NS1 flow was delivery of long term contracts well below current spot rates?

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Now let's not bring any rational thought into this thread.
- Contracts were still in place for delivery; abrogating contracts makes other customers (that you may want to keep) nervous
- The breaches occured right on the fault lines between EEZs
-- These locations allow a nice offramp to pre-empt any article 5 arguments; keep you safe from a NATO response


It is fun to watch GD accuse the government of extremely complex, extremely high risk false flag operations in one thread, while calling it incompetent in another.

Link Posted: 9/30/2022 9:38:48 PM EDT
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Ah HA!  lol



Man, people are so gullible.
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PRESIDENT BIDEN:  The first question first.  If Germany — if Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the — the border of Ukraine again — then there will be — we — there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2.  We will bring an end to it.

CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ:  As I’ve already said, we are acting together, we are absolutely united, and we will not be taking different steps.  We will do the same steps, and they will be very, very hard to Russia, and they should understand.
Aha!  We finally have proof that Germany blew the pipelines!  No one would have suspected them and it would have been the perfect crime if it wasn't for you meddling kids.
Ah HA!  lol



Man, people are so gullible.
Please tell me you understood that my post was sarcasm.  I thought the meddling kids bit made it obvious, but now I'm not so sure anymore.


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The protestors in Germany hadn't come to terms with what was happening. This article claims protestors wanted to "open Nordstream now". Why would Putin want to end his ability to sow division within Germany? He simply wouldn't want to end his opportunity to divide Germans because they were the weakest link in the EU's support for sanctions.

You can continue to argue otherwise all you want but it's not convincing in the least.
Damage to the pipelines INcreases the pressure.  Russia is already whining that sanctions will make it difficult or impossible to repair the pipes in a timely manner.
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It's absurdly easy to build a mini-sub that can place explosives.  You don't even have to build one, they are for sale on the open market.
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Being a SCUBA diver, I didn't realize it was so easy to dive so deep and blow something up!

Almost 2,000 oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. Won't be pretty if this becomes commonplace.
It's absurdly easy to build a mini-sub that can place explosives.  You don't even have to build one, they are for sale on the open market.

You can bet the oil companies know exactly what is in striking distance of their equipment/property; and have the means to offset the threat given their world wide operations in hostile regions.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 9:40:17 PM EDT
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This explains a lot
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 9:45:15 PM EDT
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Methane hydrate formation is my postulated causative factor.  Pipeline operation is no joke, so the unmaintained (Russian maintenance...) pipelines, under cold water, where gas was not being pumped to keep moisture content and hydrate formation to a minimum.  Hydrate plug is dislodged by attempted maintenance from one end of the pipeline (bleed down pressure.  Plug (one of many that likely formed) goes flying down the pipeline, hits bend and boom.  Russians with their fucked methods for shit maintenance on pipelines that had been under pressure but not moving gas, fucking destroyed the lines 17 hours apart by their own fuckup.
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Methane hydrate formation is my postulated causative factor.  Pipeline operation is no joke, so the unmaintained (Russian maintenance...) pipelines, under cold water, where gas was not being pumped to keep moisture content and hydrate formation to a minimum.  Hydrate plug is dislodged by attempted maintenance from one end of the pipeline (bleed down pressure.  Plug (one of many that likely formed) goes flying down the pipeline, hits bend and boom.  Russians with their fucked methods for shit maintenance on pipelines that had been under pressure but not moving gas, fucking destroyed the lines 17 hours apart by their own fuckup.
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I'll laugh if we get to nuke the Russians to oblivion because they escalate after their fuck up.
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Methane hydrate formation is my postulated causative factor.  Pipeline operation is no joke, so the unmaintained (Russian maintenance...) pipelines, under cold water, where gas was not being pumped to keep moisture content and hydrate formation to a minimum.  Hydrate plug is dislodged by attempted maintenance from one end of the pipeline (bleed down pressure.  Plug (one of many that likely formed) goes flying down the pipeline, hits bend and boom.  Russians with their fucked methods for shit maintenance on pipelines that had been under pressure but not moving gas, fucking destroyed the lines 17 hours apart by their own fuckup.
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It stretches credulity to think 4 leaks happened on two separate systems, none of which were flowing product, all within the same 24 hours and it wasn't intentional.
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LOL.....blow dis pipe and annex deez nutz
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LOL.

It's comical to watch them.
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It stretches credulity to think 4 leaks happened on two separate systems, none of which were flowing product, all within the same 24 hours and it wasn't intentional.
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Methane hydrate formation is my postulated causative factor.  Pipeline operation is no joke, so the unmaintained (Russian maintenance...) pipelines, under cold water, where gas was not being pumped to keep moisture content and hydrate formation to a minimum.  Hydrate plug is dislodged by attempted maintenance from one end of the pipeline (bleed down pressure.  Plug (one of many that likely formed) goes flying down the pipeline, hits bend and boom.  Russians with their fucked methods for shit maintenance on pipelines that had been under pressure but not moving gas, fucking destroyed the lines 17 hours apart by their own fuckup.
It stretches credulity to think 4 leaks happened on two separate systems, none of which were flowing product, all within the same 24 hours and it wasn't intentional.

If the pipelines are cross connected at various points, are they really "separate systems"?
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Does your position on his topic coincidentally align with that of Putin?

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Are you even listening to yourself?

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If you want to have a discussion, then have. Stop with your nonsense about "liberals" this and that though. It weakens your point as I can assure you, we are not liberals.

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Are the arfcom members that routinely accuse fellow Americans of being agents of Putin……upset about being called names they don’t like? That’s rich.
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Are the arfcom members that routinely accuse fellow Americans of being agents of Putin……upset about being called names they don’t like? That’s rich.
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If you want to have a discussion, then have. Stop with your nonsense about "liberals" this and that though. It weakens your point as I can assure you, we are not liberals.



Are the arfcom members that routinely accuse fellow Americans of being agents of Putin……upset about being called names they don’t like? That’s rich.

Only feminized liberals call people names for being right.
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There are other land based pipelines. Europe is still buying energy...and writing checks.

Russia supplied 40% of Europe's energy, that's a chunk.  You can't replace that in 6 months. The infrastructure to transport that amount if fossile fuel doesn't just pop up like mushrooms.

Renewables are a peak demand load shaping source at best. No amount of renewable energy without a heretofore non existent form of storage replaces the need for fossile fuels.

Most of the energy is used in places other than where it's extracted.

All this means is that no matter who blew the NS system...everybody is now committed.  

Cortez just burned his ships.  

I don't care if you've spent your adult life training to fight Russia or you still have some putin jiz on your chin...this is an escalation.

There probably won't be an off ramp now.  Russia is burning its future.
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Brilliant move. Now Russia has nothing in that sector to bargain with.
There are other land based pipelines. Europe is still buying energy...and writing checks.

Russia supplied 40% of Europe's energy, that's a chunk.  You can't replace that in 6 months. The infrastructure to transport that amount if fossile fuel doesn't just pop up like mushrooms.

Renewables are a peak demand load shaping source at best. No amount of renewable energy without a heretofore non existent form of storage replaces the need for fossile fuels.

Most of the energy is used in places other than where it's extracted.

All this means is that no matter who blew the NS system...everybody is now committed.  

Cortez just burned his ships.  

I don't care if you've spent your adult life training to fight Russia or you still have some putin jiz on your chin...this is an escalation.

There probably won't be an off ramp now.  Russia is burning its future.




Shhhhhh! You aren't supposed to know all that. "We" blew up the only chance for all of Europe to survive the most brutal winter in history of winter.
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But Biden did say it though, right?  I'm not trying to get at anything. I don't want the news.

Did he actually say it?
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If you want to have a discussion, then have. Stop with your nonsense about "liberals" this and that though. It weakens your point as I can assure you, we are not liberals.

You speak in absolutes, yet your "proof" is something Biden said 7 months ago. It's odd that a so-called conservative trusts Biden's word so much. Are you sure YOU'RE not the liberal?



But Biden did say it though, right?  I'm not trying to get at anything. I don't want the news.

Did he actually say it?

Yes he did, 7 months ago. It's relevance today is pretty questionable.
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Are the arfcom members that routinely accuse fellow Americans of being agents of Putin  upset about being called names they don't like? That's rich.
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If you want to have a discussion, then have. Stop with your nonsense about "liberals" this and that though. It weakens your point as I can assure you, we are not liberals.



Are the arfcom members that routinely accuse fellow Americans of being agents of Putin  upset about being called names they don't like? That's rich.

Stop parroting actual Kremlin talking points and you won't be called agents of Putin.

I'm not upset about anything, but the liberal name calling is ridiculous.
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Does your position on his topic coincidentally align with that of Putin?
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Putin breathes oxygen, you’d better stop respirating yourself, it’s supporting Communism.

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