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I get the addiction but I can't understand that first time, somehow thinking its a good idea.. View Quote I have no idea. The last facility I worked at it heroin was a big problem. We'd find stamped bags in the parking lot, in the break rooms, in the bathrooms. We'd give it to the cops and that's about it. Union didn't want cameras and the old timers just said fire all the youngins that are doing it and we'll pretend like there's nothing to grieve. Had to escort out more than one kid who was high as hell and take them for drug testing. The thing was the place I worked at paid well, had decent insurance, and offered a lot in the grand scheme of things in that area but these kids (OK, mostly early 20 somethings) were doing it like it was candy. Some told me about old sports injuries from high school football that plagued them and others simply said it was what their friends were doing. None of them had super high aspirations in life hence why they were working where they were (which again, wasn't horrible but you didn't need to have a college degree to do it so it must be bad right?). Mental issues more than anything else were probably the root cause. One kid came in one day and dumped syringes on my desk saying I needed to get that stuff away from him. He went to rehab after he stole money with his father one of the local cops and then OD'd. |
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But, but, but... My looney libertarian friends claim dope is a victimless crime... I always ask them "Would you surrender *YOUR* daughter to such a victimless crime"??? View Quote There are a lot of things that are completely legal that I wouldn't want my kids doing. What does that have to do with anything? Stop bringing addicts back dozens of times over again with my tax money, thanks. |
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probably an irrational fear, but I get the creeps when I go out to eat when back in OH to visit my wife's family. How many of these people prepping my food are addicts that have Hep C, HIV or some other disease?
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I get the addiction but I can't understand that first time, somehow thinking its a good idea.. View Quote I haven't experienced it, but I am in health care and pain/symptom management, so I do get how the search for pain relief and being cut off of the pills could make a person do it. |
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I grew up close to there. The thing I don't understand is how people are fucking dumb enough to stick a needle with a mystery concoction in it in their arm and push down the plunger. Pills, weed, coke, I can understand the desire. But heroin, WTF??? View Quote They don't start out with the needle. They start with pain pills. Then they develop a tolerance and can't get enough from ERs and prescriptions (or can't afford it). So they start taking heroin. First, they smoke it. Eventually they get to a point where they have to inject to get the full effect RFN. It's fucked up. A normal person can't imagine doing it. Hook that same person on heroin to the point they can't get high enough smoking it and suddenly it doesn't sound so outrageous... |
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I live 15 miles from there... Hooray for drugs!
Maybe they just need to spike some H with way more fenatyl than normal and just let Darwin sweep through Ohio for a few weeks. |
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The problem really is holding many good people back as well. I have a buddy I've been doing a side project for that is a huge industrial development deal. Turns out there aren't enough people in the area who can pass a drug screening to staff the damned thing. Well, how do we come back to the investors with that one?
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They don't start out with the needle. They start with pain pills. Then they develop a tolerance and can't get enough from ERs and prescriptions (or can't afford it). So they start taking heroin. First, they smoke it. Eventually they get to a point where they have to inject to get the full effect RFN. It's fucked up. A normal person can't imagine doing it. Hook that same person on heroin to the point they can't get high enough smoking it and suddenly it doesn't sound so outrageous... View Quote always chasing that next high |
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I live 15 miles from there... Hooray for drugs! Maybe they just need to spike some H with way more fenatyl than normal and just let Darwin sweep through Ohio for a few weeks. View Quote I live in a much worse area, if you can imagine that, and we have at least a dozen overdoses ever single day. No shit. This is Huntington WV, and just yesterday our mayor was on MSNBC crying about how he doesn't understand how this got out of hand, but failed to mention his laying off a bunch of fire and police last month. |
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The problem really is holding many good people back as well. I have a buddy I've been doing a side project for that is a huge industrial development deal. Turns out there aren't enough people in the area who can pass a drug screening to staff the damned thing. Well, how do we come back to the investors with that one? View Quote Shoot me a message, I'm drug free and have been a federal employee the past 15 years and I need something else to do. |
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The problem with this stuff is that 90% of the time no one "gets clean" they may go to rehab at great expense, but one you know firsthand that there is a magic happy button in life its hard to forget its there whenever the slightest thing goes wrong causing a relapse. Also, the addict becomes a masterful fucking expert at manipulating people and finding drugs. Ive seen it in my family and the SO's family. In mine, my cousin was one of the few that eventually got clean at least so far, but only after talking my grandmother out of her money and most of my other relatives. In the SO's family, its constant relapses causing untold heartache and financial loss. Honestly I would be glad if he croaked from it. They learn to prey on compassion and hope of others of them turning it around.
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Shoot me a message, I'm drug free and have been a federal employee the past 15 years and I need something else to do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The problem really is holding many good people back as well. I have a buddy I've been doing a side project for that is a huge industrial development deal. Turns out there aren't enough people in the area who can pass a drug screening to staff the damned thing. Well, how do we come back to the investors with that one? Shoot me a message, I'm drug free and have been a federal employee the past 15 years and I need something else to do. |
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I live in a much worse area, if you can imagine that, and we have at least a dozen overdoses ever single day. No shit. This is Huntington WV, and just yesterday our mayor was on MSNBC crying about how he doesn't understand how this got out of hand, but failed to mention his laying off a bunch of fire and police last month. View Quote I am sure Huntington is worse... The further south of Columbus you go, the worse and worse it gets. It sucks that the opioid epidemic is hitting these places so hard, but I guess that's what happens when you have a lot of people hooked on pills and they suddenly can't get them anymore. |
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If Heroin was legal, and that all that you could get was "lab grade" at a drug store, far less people would die from it...
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The problem really is holding many good people back as well. I have a buddy I've been doing a side project for that is a huge industrial development deal. Turns out there aren't enough people in the area who can pass a drug screening to staff the damned thing. Well, how do we come back to the investors with that one? View Quote I know its not popular here, but I've seen a couple businesses fix their "can't find good people" problem by stopping pre-employment/random drug testing and going to incident based testing, and heavy performance screening of employees instead. I'm convinced that for basic unskilled labor, you have to pay at least another couple dollars an hour in OH to get the same quality/performance of employees if you want to drug test. |
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We got a call from some good friends who are paying $30,000 a month for some rehab in California for one of their daughters.
OBAMA wanted his OBAMACARE PLAN to spread the cost of treatment to everyone. See how that works. Rrrright. Aloha, Mark |
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They don't start out with the needle. They start with pain pills. Then they develop a tolerance and can't get enough from ERs and prescriptions (or can't afford it). So they start taking heroin. First, they smoke it. Eventually they get to a point where they have to inject to get the full effect RFN. It's fucked up. A normal person can't imagine doing it. Hook that same person on heroin to the point they can't get high enough smoking it and suddenly it doesn't sound so outrageous... View Quote Maybe they actually started out with............ Marijuana. Rrrrrright. Aloha, Mark |
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guberment planning at its best.
1. allow big pharma to create pills with huge doses of opoid that is time release but when ground up you get it all at once 2. allow and encourage doctors to prescribe these super-opiod pills 3. get everyone addicted 4. enact laws that makes it very difficult to get your super-opoid precription re-filled 5. addicted folks now look for alternatives and the mexican cartels fill the void (and the open borders help this process) 6. let the chinese clandiestine labs do their part with fentanyl and co-fentanyl (and this is what is killing folks). when i grew up in the 60s/70s heroin was a bridge too far as sticking a needle in your arm was beyond the pale. i knew folks smoked pot, hallucinogens, amphetamines and so forth that would have never stepped up to heroin. when high dosage super-opiod pills were introduced it got a lot of folks addicted at heroin injection levels and once those were no longer available they turned to heroin. also when i was growing up (and i worked in a drugstore for several years as a stockboy and pharmacy tech), you did not see anything like oxycontin. if we had a terminal caner patient we worked with a doctor and only ordered strong narcotics in those special instances (usually something injectable like morphine). the strongest pills we had were dilaudid 4mg and even those were rarely prescribed. oxycontin and large does opoids didnt exist. the government and the war on drugs and the governments odd on-and-off drug overwatch are a central component to today's problem. if there had never been oxycontin and similar legal prescription medications, there would not have been the current heroin epidemic we see today. |
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Does he really need to drug test for it? If not, its simply not worth it a lot of the time. Your standard 5-panel drug test won't catch synthetic opiods at all. You only have a 3-day window to detect opiods anyway. I know its not popular here, but I've seen a couple businesses fix their "can't find good people" problem by stopping pre-employment/random drug testing and going to incident based testing, and heavy performance screening of employees instead. I'm convinced that for basic unskilled labor, you have to pay at least another couple dollars an hour in OH to get the same quality/performance of employees if you want to drug test. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The problem really is holding many good people back as well. I have a buddy I've been doing a side project for that is a huge industrial development deal. Turns out there aren't enough people in the area who can pass a drug screening to staff the damned thing. Well, how do we come back to the investors with that one? I know its not popular here, but I've seen a couple businesses fix their "can't find good people" problem by stopping pre-employment/random drug testing and going to incident based testing, and heavy performance screening of employees instead. I'm convinced that for basic unskilled labor, you have to pay at least another couple dollars an hour in OH to get the same quality/performance of employees if you want to drug test. Lol fuck that. I'm not waiting for another employee to possibly get injured or killed before testing his coworker. Have fun with your heroin addicts! |
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guberment planning at its best. 1. allow big pharma to create pills with huge doses of opoid that is time release but when ground up you get it all at once 2. allow and encourage doctors to prescribe these super-opiod pills 3. get everyone addicted 4. enact laws that makes it very difficult to get your super-opoid precription re-filled 5. addicted folks now look for alternatives and the mexican cartels fill the void (and the open borders help this process) 6. let the chinese clandiestine labs do their part with fentanyl and co-fentanyl (and this is what is killing folks). when i grew up in the 60s/70s heroin was a bridge too far as sticking a needle in your arm was beyond the pale. i knew folks smoked pot, hallucinogens, amphetamines and so forth that would have never stepped up to heroin. when high dosage super-opiod pills were introduced it got a lot of folks addicted at heroin injection levels and once those were no longer available they turned to heroin. also when i was growing up (and i worked in a drugstore for several years as a stockboy and pharmacy tech), you did not see anything like oxycontin. if we had a terminal caner patient we worked with a doctor and only ordered strong narcotics in those special instances (usually something injectable like morphine). the strongest pills we had were dilaudid 4mg and even those were rarely prescribed. oxycontin and large does opoids didnt exist. the government and the war on drugs and the governments odd on-and-off drug overwatch are a central component to today's problem. if there had never been oxycontin and similar legal prescription medications, there would not have been the current heroin epidemic we see today. View Quote |
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Lol fuck that. I'm not waiting for another employee to possibly get injured or killed before testing his coworker. Have fun with your heroin addicts! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The problem really is holding many good people back as well. I have a buddy I've been doing a side project for that is a huge industrial development deal. Turns out there aren't enough people in the area who can pass a drug screening to staff the damned thing. Well, how do we come back to the investors with that one? I know its not popular here, but I've seen a couple businesses fix their "can't find good people" problem by stopping pre-employment/random drug testing and going to incident based testing, and heavy performance screening of employees instead. I'm convinced that for basic unskilled labor, you have to pay at least another couple dollars an hour in OH to get the same quality/performance of employees if you want to drug test. Lol fuck that. I'm not waiting for another employee to possibly get injured or killed before testing his coworker. Have fun with your heroin addicts! |
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guberment planning at its best. 1. allow big pharma to create pills with huge doses of opoid that is time release but when ground up you get it all at once 2. allow and encourage doctors to prescribe these super-opiod pills 3. get everyone addicted 4. enact laws that makes it very difficult to get your super-opoid precription re-filled 5. addicted folks now look for alternatives and the mexican cartels fill the void (and the open borders help this process) 6. let the chinese clandiestine labs do their part with fentanyl and co-fentanyl (and this is what is killing folks). when i grew up in the 60s/70s heroin was a bridge too far as sticking a needle in your arm was beyond the pale. i knew folks smoked pot, hallucinogens, amphetamines and so forth that would have never stepped up to heroin. when high dosage super-opiod pills were introduced it got a lot of folks addicted at heroin injection levels and once those were no longer available they turned to heroin. also when i was growing up (and i worked in a drugstore for several years as a stockboy and pharmacy tech), you did not see anything like oxycontin. if we had a terminal caner patient we worked with a doctor and only ordered strong narcotics in those special instances (usually something injectable like morphine). the strongest pills we had were dilaudid 4mg and even those were rarely prescribed. oxycontin and large does opoids didnt exist. the government and the war on drugs and the governments odd on-and-off drug overwatch are a central component to today's problem. if there had never been oxycontin and similar legal prescription medications, there would not have been the current heroin epidemic we see today. View Quote Just blame the deepest pocket(s)....it's not the addict's fault. Rrrrright. Read about the law suit: http://theweek.com/articles/541564/how-american-opiate-epidemic-started-by-pharmaceutical-company Aloha, Mark |
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Its been almost a year since 8 hillbilly drug dealers got snuffed in the middle of the night over that way. I wonder where that case is going???
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There was an article in our local newsrag a couple of weeks ago discussing how meth is taking back over because the fentanyl/carfentanyl has become so dangerous. Opioid and amphetamine addiction is REALLY bad down here in the hills. This is why I sleep next to a loaded rifle, and why 30 shot magazine size is standard.
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Its been almost a year since 8 hillbilly drug dealers got snuffed in the middle of the night over that way. I wonder where that case is going??? View Quote If the quality of prosecution in the area is similar to what we've got here (not too terribly far away), it's probably going nowhere. |
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There was an article in our local newsrag a couple of weeks ago discussing how meth is taking back over because the fentanyl/carfentanyl has become so dangerous. Opioid and amphetamine addiction is REALLY bad down here in the hills. This is why I sleep next to a loaded rifle, and why 30 shot magazine size is standard. There's also a lot more cartel activity up here than most are willing to accept. View Quote The father in law down there keeps nothing stronger then advil in his practice and has signs all over the doors that say that, he still gets people coming in acting like they are in pain and wanting something. All his stuff goes right to the pharmacy and they have had a number of repeat visitors try to say they need more and he sends them away. Its crazy down there and he has lots of stories to tell |
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Its been almost a year since 8 hillbilly drug dealers got snuffed in the middle of the night over that way. I wonder where that case is going??? View Quote Meanwhile... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/us/ohio-overdose-deaths-coroners-office.html?_r=0 "The bodies just keep arriving. On Thursday, only two days into February, the coroner’s office in Dayton, Ohio, had already handled 25 deaths — 18 caused by drug overdoses. In January, the office processed 145 cases in which the victims’ bodies had been destroyed by opioids.. Now, the Montgomery County Coroner’s Office is so crammed with corpses that it has asked a local funeral parlor to take in four bodies for “temporary storage,” the first time it has had to make such a request, Kenneth M. Betz, director of the coroner’s office, said on Thursday.“We’re running at full capacity,” he said in a phone interview. “We’ve never experienced this volume of accidental drug overdoses in our history. We now call funeral homes immediately” to ask if there is space available, he added." |
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It's going. Murders are tough to solve. Especially one where they didn't leave any victims capable of making a statement. I seriously doubt they'll ever make an arrest in the case. I guess it's possible but I doubt it. Meanwhile... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/us/ohio-overdose-deaths-coroners-office.html?_r=0 "The bodies just keep arriving. On Thursday, only two days into February, the coroner’s office in Dayton, Ohio, had already handled 25 deaths — 18 caused by drug overdoses. In January, the office processed 145 cases in which the victims’ bodies had been destroyed by opioids.. Now, the Montgomery County Coroner’s Office is so crammed with corpses that it has asked a local funeral parlor to take in four bodies for “temporary storage,” the first time it has had to make such a request, Kenneth M. Betz, director of the coroner’s office, said on Thursday.“We’re running at full capacity,” he said in a phone interview. “We’ve never experienced this volume of accidental drug overdoses in our history. We now call funeral homes immediately” to ask if there is space available, he added." View Quote Meh, Ohio didn't even break the top 5...."The five states with the highest rates of death linked to drug overdose were West Virginia (41.5 per 100,000), New Hampshire (34.3 per 100,000), Kentucky (29.9 per 100,000), Ohio (29.9 per 100,000), and Rhode Island (28.2 per 100,000), according to the C.D.C." |
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Too Many Bodies in Ohio Morgue, so Coroner Gets Death Trailer
by Corky Siemaszko It's mute testimony to the opioid addiction plague that has been ravaging Ohio — a 20-foot-long air conditioned trailer with room for 18 bodies. The Stark County coroner in Canton had a "cold storage mass casualty trailer" trucked-in on Saturday because the morgue was overflowing with bodies, nearly half of them victims of drug overdoses. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/too-many-bodies-ohio-morgue-so-coroner-gets-death-trailer-n733446 |
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keep "saving " the assholes, that is the solution? Waste taxpayer money/ police officer time saving these losers?
Then waste more time and money giving them a sack of useless papers they will never read Fucking retardo land |
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Meh, Ohio didn't even break the top 5...."The five states with the highest rates of death linked to drug overdose were West Virginia (41.5 per 100,000), New Hampshire (34.3 per 100,000), Kentucky (29.9 per 100,000), Ohio (29.9 per 100,000), and Rhode Island (28.2 per 100,000), according to the C.D.C." View Quote ... |
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Why live there when Youngstown is so close by. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Can Chillicothe get any worse? You couldn't pay me to live there. Why live there when Youngstown is so close by. I grew up in Youngstown. At least our drug addicts don't have that funny, hillbilly, river talkin' accent. It's more ghetto-like. |
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Meh, Ohio didn't even break the top 5...."The five states with the highest rates of death linked to drug overdose were West Virginia (41.5 per 100,000), New Hampshire (34.3 per 100,000), Kentucky (29.9 per 100,000), Ohio (29.9 per 100,000), and Rhode Island (28.2 per 100,000), according to the C.D.C." View Quote Ugh Ohio is tied for 3rd with Kentucky. |
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Just blame the deepest pocket(s)....it's not the addict's fault. Rrrrright. Read about the law suit: http://theweek.com/articles/541564/how-american-opiate-epidemic-started-by-pharmaceutical-company Aloha, Mark View Quote When I was in college 10 years ago you could not go to the health center without leaving with a bottle of Vicodin. They handed it out like fucking tic tacs. |
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I spent my high school years in Tuscarawas County and still go back to see family. That and SE Ohio are just the dumps. All semblance of motivation appears to be missing.
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Cant even imagine it, I hate needles and to chicken to do hard drugs.
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When I was in college 10 years ago you could not go to the health center without leaving with a bottle of Vicodin. They handed it out like fucking tic tacs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just blame the deepest pocket(s)....it's not the addict's fault. Rrrrright. Read about the law suit: http://theweek.com/articles/541564/how-american-opiate-epidemic-started-by-pharmaceutical-company Aloha, Mark When I was in college 10 years ago you could not go to the health center without leaving with a bottle of Vicodin. They handed it out like fucking tic tacs. I was on jury duty a number of years ago for a case in which a deadbeat beat up his addict girlfriend for her drugs, which she obtained in the ER by telling the doctor she was generally in pain. From the trial proceedings, it was clear that A.) the defendants were clearly guilty, B.) the ER doc was simply handing out opiate prescriptions to get the addicts out of his way, C.) the 'victim' was high as a kite while she was on the stand (at which point she impeached her own testimony and the case was dropped), and D.) our county prosecutor's office was pretty much incompetent in the matter. |
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