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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:44:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The still image from the video is inconclusive, IMO, in determining if the rifle was raised or not. Let's remember that it IS legal to open carry, so if the driver is to claim self defense, he's going to need more than just "guy had a slung rifle and shouting at me". Again, scenarios in which self defense isn't going to win: Driver drew and shot first, absent the rifle being pointed. Driver drew and Garrett pointed his rifle, at which time driver opened fire. We know nothing about the driver or his motivations. Don't be so quick to say that just because the dead guy was a protestor, that the shooter is automatically a Real American Hero. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: All witness statements contain bias. Sorting through the bullshit is what makes the difference. If Garrett fired rounds and every protestor denies it, then the question becomes where the bullets went. If he hit the car with any shots, that's abso-fuckunglutely going to come out at trial, because the protestors can't hide holes in a car. Assume that they picked up the brass he fired. Assume they lie, sure. But there will be physical evidence somewhere, unless he fired those rounds straight up into the air. Again, my money is that the driver is going to claim he saw Garrett with a rifle, and opened fire first. Then the question is going to be whether Garrett was aiming at him or not. That's going to wind up being impossible to prove one way or another, if no further video or photo evidence comes out beyond that still frame of Garrett's arm. Prosecution can also argue that Garrett was responding to the deadly force threat of the driver pointing at him first. I have no doubt the protestors will claim that, although getting all the stories to coincide might be challenging. Open armed groups on the street in proximity and agitating against each other is inherently dangerous. Mistakes will get made, and people wind up dead as a result. It's simply an inevitable outcome on a national scale, that for X number of armed activists encountering other armed people, Y number of shootings will occur in a given time period. Not saying it's right or wrong, or offering any judgment at all...simply pointing out the factual inevitability of such circumstances. There are at least three or four possible scenarios where self defense looks viable, seeing how the video clearly shows the dead guy pointing his rifle at the car. 1. Dead guy pointed gun at driver for no reason, or because he thought driver was going to escape their BLM roadblock. Got shot. 2. Dead guy saw driver was armed at their BLM roadblock and pointed his gun at driver. Got shot. 3. Dead guy decided driver was trying to escape their road block and fired rounds at the driver. Got shot. 4. Dead guy decided driver was trying to escape their road block and fired warning shots into the street or somewhere. Got shot. The one possible not self defense scenario. 1. Driver pulls over, asks for directions, dead guy comes up to be helpful, carelessly flags the driver with his muzzle, driver yells, "Surprise, mother fucker" and shoots him. Let's think which of those are most likely true. The still image from the video is inconclusive, IMO, in determining if the rifle was raised or not. Let's remember that it IS legal to open carry, so if the driver is to claim self defense, he's going to need more than just "guy had a slung rifle and shouting at me". Again, scenarios in which self defense isn't going to win: Driver drew and shot first, absent the rifle being pointed. Driver drew and Garrett pointed his rifle, at which time driver opened fire. We know nothing about the driver or his motivations. Don't be so quick to say that just because the dead guy was a protestor, that the shooter is automatically a Real American Hero. Just because driver drew and pointed first doesn't mean he is necessarily unjustified. An angry mob swarming around his car possibly beating it or trying to get him out is easily an argument for fear of your life. I dont know if the crowd was doing that but it is definitely a common occurrence at these protests so I think it's highly possible. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:44:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The first five shots are not only louder, the blast from them is different. They're obviously rifle shots to anyone who's shot both. The pistol rounds have a shorter, sharper report. Jeez people, just stop. They're DIFFERENT. That's it. Shit audio doesn't give you the information to start IDing specific weapons. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:45:00 PM EST
[#6]
Quoted: Huh? I'm stumped.  Damn! |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:46:18 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryAgreed. He choose his side, it isn't my side or any semblance of a righteous side. Good riddance. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:46:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Beamy - you say he wasn't the best crew chief. Do you have any insight into why he served only a little over two years? Aren't most enlistments for four? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: link left cold since it's Daily KOS https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/26/1963877/-Rest-in-Power-Garrett-Foster He was stationed at Minot around 2011-2014, not the best Crew Chief but he had heart. He was all about his wife, black chick and quadriplegic. All I can say is Holy Shit @Beamy - you say he wasn't the best crew chief. Do you have any insight into why he served only a little over two years? Aren't most enlistments for four? He mentioned the Deceased had PT problems. Looking at his pictures I’d assume he got the boot for being a disgusting fat body. Also, fuck that overweight communist. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:47:11 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He was exercising his first and second amendments illegally? Um, I was simply assessing whether it's fair to call him a commie. Looks like the evidence says YES. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:48:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guys, you all need to STFU, and show some respect. You have no right to talk like that, until you walk a mile in her shoes!  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Huh? I'm stumped. I'm sure someone can lend her a hand.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:50:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Copy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OP said he thinks the guy was booted for failure to meet PT standards, and did not really seem to be getting the hang of the AF life. The deceased served less than 2 1/2 years. Copy. "failure to adapt > general fuck up discharge" is my interpretation of that. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:50:42 PM EST
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:50:44 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, he was armed, marching in an illegal riot with Marxist scum, so there's that......... He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:53:21 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So which armor to wear while driving a sedan and getting shot at with an AK? Lvl IV standalone |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:53:37 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Late to the party here, so it might have already been said... here's what I think happened. The group was walking through the intersection and blocking traffic. Guy in car honked his horn, and attempted to go around the hoard by going up onto the sidewalk ( thats when you see everyone run towards the sidewalk/car in the video) to block him. GI Commie Joe fires his AK at the car, car follows up with handgun fire. The sounds are quite distinctly different. POS commie DRT! Good shoot. Agree. I’m pretty sure I hear the AK fire first followed by the return fire. The AK makes a distinctive sound when fired upon. (Heartbreak Ridge) |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:56:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Video of terrorist getting murked.
After watching that video, the driver made a right turn. Yes there were protestors there, but he made the turn without incident. He probably didn't see the bigger crowd until he was around the corner and on top of them. He hit the brakes pretty quick. And yes, the "protestors" did surround the car. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:57:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Say what you will, but there's not single picture that shows him promoting Marxism. BLM is a self described Marxist organization with "trained Marxist" leadership. Marching in a BLM riot is prima facie evidence of support of Marxism. Even if he doesn't know, realize or understand that. He's there. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:57:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, he was armed, marching in an illegal riot with Marxist scum, so there's that......... He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. No fucks given. If he is half as intelligent as you give him credit for he should have known better however his critical thinking skills are definitely in question. I would never, ever, ever associate myself with marxists/socialists/communists, BLM/Antifa are groups I would avoid association with at all costs. He gladly laid down with the dogs and got up with the fleas as they say. That's his choice, his responsibility and his end result to be accountable for. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:58:26 PM EST
[#22]
The commie label is because the friend of my enemy is my enemy. He is marching with Antifa and BLM. So he’s guilty of the company he chooses to keep.
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:58:38 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. Why do you feel compelled to defend this guy and the rioters? There's a picture of him pointing the rifle at a car surrounded by a mob. Fuck him, and them. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:59:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jeez people, just stop. They're DIFFERENT. That's it. Shit audio doesn't give you the information to start IDing specific weapons. Yes it does. Run it through an audio program. Compare the blasts to known rifle and pistol shots. You'll see the curves are different. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:59:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. There's a lot of overlap between libertarians and the far left. What arfcom thinks of as libertarian, and what the modern American libertarian party was up until ~2016, is an anomaly when it comes to the historical definition of libertarian. There's plenty of libertarians who view their struggle for liberty as not against "an oppressive government" (the right wing view) but against the "oppressor class, historical institutions, and all hierarchies" (the Marxist view). Where are his overt posts against Marxism? |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 5:59:20 PM EST
[#26]
Quoted: He was marching among Marxists and died with them. Guilty by association. This. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:00:37 PM EST
[#27]
Quoted: I know it's page 18 but anyone called dibs on the AK yet? Yea. I Did. His wife/fiancé can’t use it. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:01:04 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. He was ready and willing to use his arms against fellow Americans that didn't agree with him politically. Whether he meant to shoot or just intimidate doesn't mean shit. He's a turncoat to core American ideals of democracy and freedom of thought. He got what was coming to him. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:02:26 PM EST
[#29]
Quoted: He was exercising his first and second amendments illegally? Well to be fair, just because a person is a veteran and carries a gun to a black panther party and protests doesn’t mean he isn’t a dick. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:02:41 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. If any of them are not full blown Marxists, I think Lenin would at least classify them as "useful idiots". |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:03:27 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The first five shots are not only louder, the blast from them is different. They're obviously rifle shots to anyone who's shot both. The pistol rounds have a shorter, sharper report. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol "news" stories The first five shots are not only louder, the blast from them is different. They're obviously rifle shots to anyone who's shot both. The pistol rounds have a shorter, sharper report. agree I trust what gun folks can tell over what some mockingbird reporter bitch says about stuff like this |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:03:30 PM EST
[#32]
According to the local news, he was originally from Plano.
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:03:35 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a lot of overlap between libertarians and the far left. What arfcom thinks of as libertarian, and what the modern American libertarian party was up until ~2016, is an anomaly when it comes to the historical definition of libertarian. There's plenty of libertarians who view their struggle for liberty as not against "an oppressive government" (the right wing view) but against the "oppressor class, historical institutions, and all hierarchies" (the Marxist view). Where are his overt posts against Marxism? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. There's a lot of overlap between libertarians and the far left. What arfcom thinks of as libertarian, and what the modern American libertarian party was up until ~2016, is an anomaly when it comes to the historical definition of libertarian. There's plenty of libertarians who view their struggle for liberty as not against "an oppressive government" (the right wing view) but against the "oppressor class, historical institutions, and all hierarchies" (the Marxist view). Where are his overt posts against Marxism? Excellent post. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:03:58 PM EST
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Quoted: "failure to adapt > general fuck up discharge" is my interpretation of that. “Convenience of the government” worked well. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:04:13 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, thank you for the AntiFA/BLM point of view on this shooting. I ran grand juries for three years as assistant district attorney when I was right out of law school. I don't know about Travis County, but the driver would be no-billed pretty darned quick in the district I was in, with the dead guy and his friends, just doing what you said he did in your post, if the driver said he was in fear of his life (his belief doesn't have to be right, only reasonable). If the driver does get indicted (and, no doubt, Austin has a reputation for returning absolutely insane indictments, so if could happen) ,when it comes to motive of the dead guy, the prosecutor is going to have to live with all that crazy stuff the dead guy posted about what he planned to do with that rifle. And, it's going to get fed to him by a good defense attorney. This is Texas. Not New York. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The still image from the video is inconclusive, IMO, in determining if the rifle was raised or not. Let's remember that it IS legal to open carry, so if the driver is to claim self defense, he's going to need more than just "guy had a slung rifle and shouting at me". Again, scenarios in which self defense isn't going to win: Driver drew and shot first, absent the rifle being pointed. Driver drew and Garrett pointed his rifle, at which time driver opened fire. We know nothing about the driver or his motivations. Don't be so quick to say that just because the dead guy was a protestor, that the shooter is automatically a Real American Hero. Well, thank you for the AntiFA/BLM point of view on this shooting. I ran grand juries for three years as assistant district attorney when I was right out of law school. I don't know about Travis County, but the driver would be no-billed pretty darned quick in the district I was in, with the dead guy and his friends, just doing what you said he did in your post, if the driver said he was in fear of his life (his belief doesn't have to be right, only reasonable). If the driver does get indicted (and, no doubt, Austin has a reputation for returning absolutely insane indictments, so if could happen) ,when it comes to motive of the dead guy, the prosecutor is going to have to live with all that crazy stuff the dead guy posted about what he planned to do with that rifle. And, it's going to get fed to him by a good defense attorney. This is Texas. Not New York. I am neither Antifa nor BLM. What I am, is someone who attempts to point out the other side when everyone starts engaging in groupthink. Fact: the driver got arrested. Speculation: It is Austin, and given current political climate, the driver was guaranteed to get arrested regardless of how legitimate his self defense claim might be. My point is this: right now we can be fairly certain there are multiple protestors who have given witness statements to the police. And we can be fairly certain they're all going to side with Garrett. Do you or I think any of them are going to claim Garrett pointed a weapon first? So we're going to see a defendant who claims he was in fear because Garrett pointed a rifle at him, and because of the crowd surrounding him. We are going to see a bunch of witnesses who claim he drove right up, and immediately, without provocation, drew and fired on Garrett. The defense is going to move to suppress that interview and any social media posts. Whether they succeed at it or not is hard to say given the uncertainties of a trial in Austin. Right now I'd say the driver is probably fucked. I do not believe we are ever going to see any evidence of Garrett having opened fire, and he's going to be painted as a heroic martyr trying to save his quadriplegic black wife from a crazed gunman out to murder protestors. It's Austin. You can do the math of where things go from there. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:04:32 PM EST
[#36]
Hahahaha |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:06:39 PM EST
[#38]
In the other thread, goldtop post this link
https://m.facebook.com/AustinPolice/videos/325649065275255/?refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FAustinPolice%2F&_rdr The vid at the link is police briefing in which the captain says it appears that the "victim" aimed the rifle at the car. 5 shots were from driver, 3 shot were from another protester who fired at the car as it went by. The driver left the scene, and called 911. They told him to pull over, and came and picked him up, and secured the evidence. They also picked up the other protestor who fired at the driver (hopefully for attempted murder) |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:06:44 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you feel compelled to defend this guy and the rioters? There's a picture of him pointing the rifle at a car surrounded by a mob. Fuck him, and them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. Why do you feel compelled to defend this guy and the rioters? There's a picture of him pointing the rifle at a car surrounded by a mob. Fuck him, and them. If you feel like you have to ask that question, you probably already know the answer. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:08:02 PM EST
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Quoted: BLM is a self described Marxist organization with "trained Marxist" leadership. Marching in a BLM riot is prima facie evidence of support of Marxism. Even if he doesn't know, realize or understand that. He's there. Well looking this dude, he hasn’t seen the football since kickoff |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:10:39 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. Problem is is he is marching with BLM. Go to their website, click on the donate button and see where it takes you. That money isn't going to JoJo 2020. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:13:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if we'll get a new lower out of this Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Inquiring minds want to know. https://palmettostatearmory.com/psak-47-gf3-forged-nutmeg-wood-triangle-side-folding-rifle-with-cheese-grater-upper-handguard.html I wonder if we'll get a new lower out of this Mad Commie Sad Commie Good Commie |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:16:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, he was armed, marching in an illegal riot with Marxist scum, so there's that......... He is a hard-core libertarian who hates cops. Look at his FB profile if you don't believe me. https://www.facebook.com/garrett.foster.52438. I would also like to know how you are able to discern that all the people he was marching with are, in fact, Marxists. A ton of shit on his page is stuff I see posted regularly by people of Arfcom themselves. Just because he made a shitty decision doesn't make him a Marxist - especially when there's hard evidence to the contrary with everything he posted online (including overt posts against Marxism) - but it sure helps everyone feel better about themselves when they express their joy that he's dead I suppose. Lay down with dogs; get up with fleas. Only a fool of a libertarian would side with people who would see him against a wall when their "revolution" comes. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:18:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jeez people, just stop. They're DIFFERENT. That's it. Shit audio doesn't give you the information to start IDing specific weapons. Is this the hill you want to fall on? You are trying so hard to spin shit. How many times do you need to hear the assessment of people smarter than you or news reports before it sinks in your dense noggin??? |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:18:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After watching that video, the driver made a right turn. Yes there were protestors there, but he made the turn without incident. He probably didn't see the bigger crowd until he was around the corner and on top of them. He hit the brakes pretty quick. And yes, the "protestors" did surround the car. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Video of terrorist getting murked.
After watching that video, the driver made a right turn. Yes there were protestors there, but he made the turn without incident. He probably didn't see the bigger crowd until he was around the corner and on top of them. He hit the brakes pretty quick. And yes, the "protestors" did surround the car. Standard tactic, now has a name. Apparently it's called "wound collecting."
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:20:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not even trying to hide what side there own now. Need to start banning the commies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He was exercising his first and second amendments illegally? Not even trying to hide what side there own now. Need to start banning the commies. He was marching in the street illegally and unpeacably. (His video interview before the shooting he states "they aren't allowed to march in the street") - so not First Amendment protected. He stopped a car that was proceeding legally. not peaceable, and if he used his weapon to do so also illegal. - so neither First nor Second Amendment protected. He fired on a car not in self-defense that was proceeding legally, while part of an illegal march - so neither First nor Second Amendment protected. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 6:21:06 PM EST
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...but it was an illegal right turn. He had a red light and turned into a crowd of people in a crosswalk. He will pay for that mistake for the rest of his life. We will probably never know who drew first though. It is clear who shot first... and he paid for that for the rest of his life.
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