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Posted: 9/12/2020 7:21:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol 900000 acres in 3 days? That's got to be the worst on record. Try 3 million in 2 days. The Great Fire Can't be possible. Experts like Obama told me these fires were the worst ever because of global warming, and your example was from way back in 1910 before global warming was even a thing. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 7:29:19 AM EDT
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Well, it is legal in Portland. I guess they need to call it a protest and not a road block. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 7:37:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How come the big fires stop when they get to Canada? They don't have climate change there? Gun control. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 7:42:03 AM EDT
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I just got an email from turbothis (Matt Yeamans) and his shop in Talent is gone. He stated all customer property was saved but I’ll be getting my EG Mpi Kit back no idea what stage it’s in. Glad he’s ok.
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Posted: 9/12/2020 7:42:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless you're BLM or ANTIFA. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
Unless you're BLM or ANTIFA. Declare your community a Native American enclave. Safety check vehicles traveling through. Win. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 7:50:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How come the big fires stop when they get to Canada? They don't have climate change there? The first rule of rural justice is not to talk about rural justice. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 7:53:27 AM EDT
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The fires are the result of global warming...yet being set by individuals...interesting analysis of cause and effect.
More like social change through crisis management...if you don't have a crisis one can be manufactured for you by our team of experts. Operation Northwoods of the Kennedy era comes to mind. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 8:41:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it is legal in Portland. I guess they need to call it a protest and not a road block. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
Well, it is legal in Portland. I guess they need to call it a protest and not a road block. It no longer matters. Various places - in Oregon - have shown that they won't lift a finger. Precedent has been set. Citizens can create checkpoints and there's no police response by and large. The police shouldn't be surprised when the exact idea spreads - even if it's not "their side" doing it. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 8:50:35 AM EDT
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Lol. LE needs to stay in their lane on this one. This has nothing to do with solving crimes or enforcing laws. This is a militia task. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 10:05:06 AM EDT
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Local Sheriff video using FLIR cameras. This is just above Estacada, 30 miles east of Porkland.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gq0qgntz4t9rwyk/2020-09-09-FLIRFireFlyover.mp4?dl=0 |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 10:45:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. LE needs to stay in their lane on this one. This has nothing to do with solving crimes or enforcing laws. This is a militia task.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 11:03:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it is legal in Portland. I guess they need to call it a protest and not a road block. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
Well, it is legal in Portland. I guess they need to call it a protest and not a road block. Need to call it a "mostly peaceful" protest. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 11:06:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't be possible. Experts like Obama told me these fires were the worst ever because of global warming, and your example was from way back in 1910 before global warming was even a thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lol 900000 acres in 3 days? That's got to be the worst on record. Try 3 million in 2 days. The Great Fire Can't be possible. Experts like Obama told me these fires were the worst ever because of global warming, and your example was from way back in 1910 before global warming was even a thing.  Attached File@rca2222 |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 11:06:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Local Sheriff video using FLIR cameras. This is just above Estacada, 30 miles east of Porkland. https://www.dropbox.com/s/gq0qgntz4t9rwyk/2020-09-09-FLIRFireFlyover.mp4?dl=0 
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Posted: 9/12/2020 11:12:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Declare your community a Native American enclave. Safety check vehicles traveling through. Win. Safety inspection for invasive plant & aquatic species.  |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 11:39:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2020 12:03:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2020 12:08:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The irony in telling citizens it's not legal to block roads and stop cars is so thick I can't even cut it with a knife. Nick No shit |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 12:08:51 PM EDT
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Rain forecasted for Tuesday and Wednesday.
Can't come soon enough. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 12:29:58 PM EDT
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I am proud of my community for stepping up with several citizens patrols.
I am at the same time hugely disappointing at the shear number of folks around me whining and complaining at the same time. From FB "guns scare me... " "this is America...I;m free to move about freely" "Not LE, i'm stopping for no one." "I have guests coming over, you can't do this." Embarrassing, adults sounding like children. 25 years ago, the word was SSS, and shoot first then ask questions. Those guys are gone. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 12:46:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Leave your critical thinking in the back seat. Do it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But dont we support speeding up through illegal road blocks? Yes. Leave your critical thinking in the back seat. Do it. Dont take it personally. I understand its personal in this instance. Thats not the point. Its not a critical thinking issue. Its hypocritical if we are against road blocks when the enemy does it but support it when its convenient for us. Arsonists should be shot on sight. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 12:55:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont take it personally. I understand its personal in this instance. Thats not the point. Its not a critical thinking issue. Its hypocritical if we are against road blocks when the enemy does it but support it when its convenient for us. Arsonists should be shot on sight. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 12:56:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont take it personally. I understand its personal in this instance. Thats not the point. Its not a critical thinking issue. Its hypocritical if we are against road blocks when the enemy does it but support it when its convenient for us. Arsonists should be shot on sight. Are you equating the Antifa/BLM roadblocks with roadblocks set up by people to protect their homes? In what manner are they even remotely equivalent? There is absolutely nothing hypocritical about roadblocks set up to protect your towns, homes, businesses and lives. In your mind, how can Antifa/BLM roadblocks set up to lionize their dead saints even begin to be considered on the same level as people trying to protect themselves from others who are out to kill them? The needle on your moral compass is way off true north. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 12:58:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it is legal in Portland. I guess they need to call it a protest and not a road block. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
Well, it is legal in Portland. I guess they need to call it a protest and not a road block. It's a peaceful roadblock, is what it is. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 1:01:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont take it personally. I understand its personal in this instance. Thats not the point. Its not a critical thinking issue. Its hypocritical if we are against road blocks when the enemy does it but support it when its convenient for us. Arsonists should be shot on sight. Keep in mind that up until now Antifa 'Roadblocks' have been in the CBD / Downtown areas - not in residential areas. One group is protecting their shit, the other is trying to dominate and control an area that they personally have no stake in. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 1:10:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you equating the Antifa/BLM roadblocks with roadblocks set up by people to protect their homes? In what manner are they even remotely equivalent? There is absolutely nothing hypocritical about roadblocks set up to protect your towns, homes, businesses and lives. In your mind, how can Antifa/BLM roadblocks set up to lionize their dead saints even begin to be considered on the same level as people trying to protect themselves from others who are out to kill them? The needle on your moral compass is way off true north. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dont take it personally. I understand its personal in this instance. Thats not the point. Its not a critical thinking issue. Its hypocritical if we are against road blocks when the enemy does it but support it when its convenient for us. Arsonists should be shot on sight. Are you equating the Antifa/BLM roadblocks with roadblocks set up by people to protect their homes? In what manner are they even remotely equivalent? There is absolutely nothing hypocritical about roadblocks set up to protect your towns, homes, businesses and lives. In your mind, how can Antifa/BLM roadblocks set up to lionize their dead saints even begin to be considered on the same level as people trying to protect themselves from others who are out to kill them? The needle on your moral compass is way off true north. Ill wait to see what happens when a friend or family member of a local is not allowed to pass and an issue arises. Ill eat crow with no shame if it remains professional. And I think would help the use of roadblocks in the future by providing a positive precedent. Like rally day. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 1:41:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How come the big fires stop when they get to Canada? They don't have climate change there? Southern BC gets hammered almost every year too. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 1:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know him personally ? You think that is solid info? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One of my good friends said people were trying to light his friends field on fire in Sandy and gunfire was exchanged.  https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/16302/Screenshot_20200911-105314_Message__jpg-1587337.JPG You know him personally ? You think that is solid info? I can't verify if the story he told my friend is true. But my friend isn't known to lie or embellish fwiw. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 1:57:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2020 1:59:51 PM EDT
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Edit: I'm 22 pages behind
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Posted: 9/12/2020 2:14:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2020 2:28:23 PM EDT
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Oregon State Fire Marshal placed on paid administrative leave.
https://www.kptv.com/news/in-midst-of-major-wildfires-oregon-state-fire-marshal-put-on-paid-administrative-leave-acting/article_89764ac6-f51c-11ea-a8fd-5b8c2de87221.html |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 2:30:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oregon State Fire Marshal placed on paid administrative leave. https://www.kptv.com/news/in-midst-of-major-wildfires-oregon-state-fire-marshal-put-on-paid-administrative-leave-acting/article_89764ac6-f51c-11ea-a8fd-5b8c2de87221.html Jim is a good dude. Wonder if it is because he is calling arson and the governor is trying to keep it quiet. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 2:31:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2020 2:31:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont take it personally. I understand its personal in this instance. Thats not the point. Its not a critical thinking issue. Its hypocritical if we are against road blocks when the enemy does it but support it when its convenient for us. Arsonists should be shot on sight. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: But dont we support speeding up through illegal road blocks? Yes. Leave your critical thinking in the back seat. Do it. Dont take it personally. I understand its personal in this instance. Thats not the point. Its not a critical thinking issue. Its hypocritical if we are against road blocks when the enemy does it but support it when its convenient for us. Arsonists should be shot on sight. BLM blocks roads to inconvenience people in order to make a political statement. These folks are stopping people to prevent their neighborhoods from being set on fire. No hypocrisy needed. C'mon man, use your brain. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 2:40:39 PM EDT
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When all the pro BLM-Antifa media is synchronized defending BLM-Antifa's innocence...
You know those mofos are guilty as hell. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 2:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lol 900000 acres in 3 days? That's got to be the worst on record. Try 3 million in 2 days. The Great Fire Can't be possible. Experts like Obama told me these fires were the worst ever because of global warming, and your example was from way back in 1910 before global warming was even a thing. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/333855/20200909_095204_jpg-1588577.JPG @rca2222 It was sarcasm. @sneadhearn |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 2:52:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou will notice that with increased logging and effective forest management the amount of acres decreased.... Now 30 years of very little logging on federal land and the number of acres triples... funny how that works. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 2:53:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryYep. They just can't vote while actually locked up. They just have to re-register when they get out. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:04:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jim is a good dude. Wonder if it is because he is calling arson and the governor is trying to keep it quiet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oregon State Fire Marshal placed on paid administrative leave. https://www.kptv.com/news/in-midst-of-major-wildfires-oregon-state-fire-marshal-put-on-paid-administrative-leave-acting/article_89764ac6-f51c-11ea-a8fd-5b8c2de87221.html Jim is a good dude. Wonder if it is because he is calling arson and the governor is trying to keep it quiet. The replacement ticks all the boxes for a good political officer. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:05:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:09:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jim is a good dude. Wonder if it is because he is calling arson and the governor is trying to keep it quiet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oregon State Fire Marshal placed on paid administrative leave. https://www.kptv.com/news/in-midst-of-major-wildfires-oregon-state-fire-marshal-put-on-paid-administrative-leave-acting/article_89764ac6-f51c-11ea-a8fd-5b8c2de87221.html Jim is a good dude. Wonder if it is because he is calling arson and the governor is trying to keep it quiet. Likely. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:12:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont take it personally. I understand its personal in this instance. Thats not the point. Its not a critical thinking issue. Its hypocritical if we are against road blocks when the enemy does it but support it when its convenient for us. Arsonists should be shot on sight. There is a difference between racially motivated, hateful obstruction vs. screening for criminal activity. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:17:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BLM blocks roads to inconvenience people in order to make a political statement. These folks are stopping people to prevent their neighborhoods from being set on fire. No hypocrisy needed. C'mon man, use your brain. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: But dont we support speeding up through illegal road blocks? Yes. Leave your critical thinking in the back seat. Do it. Dont take it personally. I understand its personal in this instance. Thats not the point. Its not a critical thinking issue. Its hypocritical if we are against road blocks when the enemy does it but support it when its convenient for us. Arsonists should be shot on sight. BLM blocks roads to inconvenience people in order to make a political statement. These folks are stopping people to prevent their neighborhoods from being set on fire. No hypocrisy needed. C'mon man, use your brain. Plus BLM isn't letting people through, and in some cases attacking them. I'd still be against it, but if all they were doing is making a nuisance and letting you through after asking who you were I wouldn't be nearly as upset. This is a state of emergency, and the police aren't doing the job likely because they don't have the manpower. It is what the citizen militia is supposed to do. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:49:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The replacement ticks all the boxes for a good political officer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Oregon State Fire Marshal placed on paid administrative leave. https://www.kptv.com/news/in-midst-of-major-wildfires-oregon-state-fire-marshal-put-on-paid-administrative-leave-acting/article_89764ac6-f51c-11ea-a8fd-5b8c2de87221.html Jim is a good dude. Wonder if it is because he is calling arson and the governor is trying to keep it quiet. The replacement ticks all the boxes for a good political officer. Close family friend of mine who was a fire fighter knows the replacement personally, and from what I understand your statement is not correct. I do not know her, but I know my family friend and trust his word. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:51:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:55:20 PM EDT
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The fires have nothing to do with the invasive Japanese Bark Beetles do they?
I lost five of my biggest trees on my suburban lot to those bastards. 
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Posted: 9/12/2020 3:59:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Plus BLM isn't letting people through, and in some cases attacking them. I'd still be against it, but if all they were doing is making a nuisance and letting you through after asking who you were I wouldn't be nearly as upset. This is a state of emergency, and the police aren't doing the job likely because they don't have the manpower. It is what the citizen militia is supposed to do. If the towns people have a checkpoint set up and an ambulance approaches I'll bet they'll treat it differently than the BLM did.
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Posted: 9/12/2020 4:11:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You will notice that with increased logging and effective forest management the amount of acres decreased.... Now 30 years of very little logging on federal land and the number of acres triples... funny how that works. It's not just logging, without a natural fire cycle forest land needs to be manage. Clackamas county has a lot of problems, perhaps the worst is the number of overgrown old Xmas tree plots. 4-6 inch firs 20-30 feet tall, 4 feet apart with dead branches down to the ground. The USFS has great info on what it takes to make your property more resist to catastrophic fire but almost no body takes it seriously until threatened. Then try forget about it a couple months later. It's going to take a change in how insurance policies are written to start making a serious change. |
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Posted: 9/12/2020 4:14:39 PM EDT
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