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Quoted: Got mine a while ago when they were slinging 'em for under $299 with MOE handguards. http://i.imgur.com/26j5DZw.jpg View Quote |
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I'm kinda overwhelmed with the different ideas for the AR rifle, what's the draw on making a Dissy clone? Are there real positives to a dissy over a carbine/SBR/ CCR?
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Longer sight radius than a carbine. Looks neat. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm kinda overwhelmed with the different ideas for the AR rifle, what's the draw on making a Dissy clone? Are there real positives to a dissy over a carbine/SBR/ CCR? Longer sight radius than a carbine. Looks neat. I wish there was more to it, but pretty much this. If you know you're going to be using irons anyway, the typical 16" set up gives you rifle length sight radius with a slightly handier barrel size instead of a 14.5" barrel and carbine sight radius that the M4gerys have. The old school way of doing it is with rifle gas, but I prefer mid length gas set ups on dissipators. And they do look cool. |
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considering the add says the sale they had going on lasted till midnight to night, and now they are adding shipping made me not order.
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Ok. I want a freedom Dissipator. .....anyone want to sell one?
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Got mine a while ago when they were slinging 'em for under $299 with MOE handguards. http://i.imgur.com/26j5DZw.jpg View Quote That's awesome |
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Mine got shipped today. The lower was shipped yesterday. PSA has gotten way quicker.
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Mine got shipped today. The lower was shipped yesterday. PSA has gotten way quicker. View Quote They seem to be coming around of late. I hope it is a trend, because I sure love their prices. Now if they'd just drop their PTAC line and quit muddying the waters with questionable quality. CHF goodness for the win. |
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Quoted: And no freeloading... http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii523/joejeeps/2015-06-09%2015.02.07.jpg View Quote |
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Nice rifle. That's the stock I ordered, too. Now to get a rear sight and either AFG or VFG. I can't seem to decide on one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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And no freeloading... http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii523/joejeeps/2015-06-09%2015.02.07.jpg VFG unless you're big into the thumb break Costa arm shooting. |
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Quoted: VFG unless you're big into the thumb break Costa arm shooting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And no freeloading... http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii523/joejeeps/2015-06-09%2015.02.07.jpg VFG unless you're big into the thumb break Costa arm shooting. |
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View Quote I like it. Plan to do the same. But with a a1 butt stock and pistol grip . |
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And no freeloading... http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii523/joejeeps/2015-06-09%2015.02.07.jpg VFG unless you're big into the thumb break Costa arm shooting. I believe you can still operate dynamically. You may need to attach a light for the full potential to be realized, however. |
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Gotta get my lower machined and engraved
What should I engrave in the lower for a logo?? |
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Quoted: That's a damn good upper and price. I paid $299 for mine. http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q713/bedouin2w/Dissy/20140709_185748_zpsdc68wvyp.jpg View Quote Damnit, now I'm tempted to buy it |
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I believe you can still operate dynamically. You may need to attach a light for the full potential to be realized, however. Roger that! http://i.imgur.com/wDEOwA3.gif If you wanted to operate operationally you probably should have bought something free floaty. Sight posts are so 10 years ago. Seriously though, I love my dissy, but she's a porker. Front heavy SOB...this is the only AR I keep a VFG on because it actually helps me hold up the gun. |
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Quoted: If you wanted to operate operationally you probably should have bought something free floaty. Sight posts are so 10 years ago. Seriously though, I love my dissy, but she's a porker. Front heavy SOB...this is the only AR I keep a VFG on because it actually helps me hold up the gun. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I believe you can still operate dynamically. You may need to attach a light for the full potential to be realized, however. Roger that! http://i.imgur.com/wDEOwA3.gif If you wanted to operate operationally you probably should have bought something free floaty. Sight posts are so 10 years ago. Seriously though, I love my dissy, but she's a porker. Front heavy SOB...this is the only AR I keep a VFG on because it actually helps me hold up the gun. |
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To the PSA dissipator owners, is there a gap between the FSB and the barrel? I have read reviews that the PSA dissipators used a .750 FSB and a .735 barrel where the two meet leaving a small gap. Are these latest uppers still assembled this way?
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Dissy is best. http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy180/chuckd05/20140525_234512.jpg Got a lot of use from that pic in the last 24hrs. Only mine is a true dissy. View Quote Who hydro dipped your furniture? Nice rig. |
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To the PSA dissipator owners, is there a gap between the FSB and the barrel? I have read reviews that the PSA dissipators used a .750 FSB and a .735 barrel where the two meet leaving a small gap. Are these latest uppers still assembled this way? View Quote I haven't heard of this. Mine is a CHF FN barrel they were putting out several years ago. In my case the FSB appears to be the correct size for the barrel, but I haven't seen them offer the CHF dissies in a while. Somebody else will have to chime in regarding the Premium or Freedom line of dissies. |
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Quoted: I wish they made these with pencil barrels. View Quote http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU5950MOE&name=Spikes+Tactical+16%22+Mid-Length+GMP+5.56%2f.223+URG&search=dissapator |
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Here is what you want young padawan. The come into stock every once in a while, just have AIM e-mail you when they do and jump right them to get it. They never stick around for long. AIM's was the only one I could find that was a pencil barrel like I wanted, every one else has not figured out that light weight is back in vogue. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU5950MOE&name=Spikes+Tactical+16%22+Mid-Length+GMP+5.56%2f.223+URG&search=dissapator https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950.jpg https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950c.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wish they made these with pencil barrels. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU5950MOE&name=Spikes+Tactical+16%22+Mid-Length+GMP+5.56%2f.223+URG&search=dissapator https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950.jpg https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950c.jpg I saw that! I've considered just building one with ADCO's help rather than waiting on AIM Surplus's Spikes upper to be back in stock. 16" midlength pencil barrel, upper receiver, middie gas system, dummy FSB, plus the cost of putting it together = < 600 bucks if you shop carefully, plus not much waiting. |
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Quoted: I saw that! I've considered just building one with ADCO's help rather than waiting on AIM Surplus's Spikes upper to be back in stock. 16" midlength pencil barrel, upper receiver, middie gas system, dummy FSB, plus the cost of putting it together = < 600 bucks if you shop carefully, plus not much waiting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wish they made these with pencil barrels. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU5950MOE&name=Spikes+Tactical+16%22+Mid-Length+GMP+5.56%2f.223+URG&search=dissapator https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950.jpg https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950c.jpg I saw that! I've considered just building one with ADCO's help rather than waiting on AIM Surplus's Spikes upper to be back in stock. 16" midlength pencil barrel, upper receiver, middie gas system, dummy FSB, plus the cost of putting it together = < 600 bucks if you shop carefully, plus not much waiting. |
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I would have built one too but I could not find a barrel manufacturer that sold barrels with the correct contour. Even Spikes does not sell the above barrel. Paying someone to custom contour a barrel and then drilling the taper pins and FS was just too much a PITA when I could just buy the entire thing from AIM. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wish they made these with pencil barrels. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU5950MOE&name=Spikes+Tactical+16%22+Mid-Length+GMP+5.56%2f.223+URG&search=dissapator https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950.jpg https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950c.jpg I saw that! I've considered just building one with ADCO's help rather than waiting on AIM Surplus's Spikes upper to be back in stock. 16" midlength pencil barrel, upper receiver, middie gas system, dummy FSB, plus the cost of putting it together = < 600 bucks if you shop carefully, plus not much waiting. AR15Sport.com has pencil 20" barrels with the correct profile, so all you would need to do is cut and re thread. they are fairly cheap also. |
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Quoted: AR15Sport.com has pencil 20" barrels with the correct profile, so all you would need to do is cut and re thread. they are fairly cheap also. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wish they made these with pencil barrels. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU5950MOE&name=Spikes+Tactical+16%22+Mid-Length+GMP+5.56%2f.223+URG&search=dissapator https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950.jpg https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950c.jpg I saw that! I've considered just building one with ADCO's help rather than waiting on AIM Surplus's Spikes upper to be back in stock. 16" midlength pencil barrel, upper receiver, middie gas system, dummy FSB, plus the cost of putting it together = < 600 bucks if you shop carefully, plus not much waiting. AR15Sport.com has pencil 20" barrels with the correct profile, so all you would need to do is cut and re thread. they are fairly cheap also. |
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I would have built one too but I could not find a barrel manufacturer that sold barrels with the correct contour. Even Spikes does not sell the above barrel. Paying someone to custom contour a barrel and then drilling the taper pins and FS was just too much a PITA when I could just buy the entire thing from AIM. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wish they made these with pencil barrels. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU5950MOE&name=Spikes+Tactical+16%22+Mid-Length+GMP+5.56%2f.223+URG&search=dissapator https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950.jpg https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950c.jpg I saw that! I've considered just building one with ADCO's help rather than waiting on AIM Surplus's Spikes upper to be back in stock. 16" midlength pencil barrel, upper receiver, middie gas system, dummy FSB, plus the cost of putting it together = < 600 bucks if you shop carefully, plus not much waiting. Wait, wouldn't a 16" midlength pencil barrel work? Put an M16A1 FSB on it, that'd be the hardest part (hey, ADCO!)... |
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I'm glad that I missed these were on sale. I've been wanting one for a while, and the FN barrel would have made the decision for me (IIRC, the last few PSA Dissy uppers on sale were not the CHF barrels).
Didn't need to spend the money on this right now. Maybe they'll repeat the sale in the latter part of the year. |
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You can not just cut down a 20" barrel to make a dissapator with a midlength gas system. There is no place to put the mid length gas block for one and if you tried to use the rifle length gas system with the barrel cut to 16" then you get unreliable operation. View Quote meant to add you need to open the gas port, lots or people have done it in the retro section. thats also the way Colt did it. |
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Quoted: meant to add you need to open the gas port, lots or people have done it in the retro section. thats also the way Colt did it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You can not just cut down a 20" barrel to make a dissapator with a midlength gas system. There is no place to put the mid length gas block for one and if you tried to use the rifle length gas system with the barrel cut to 16" then you get unreliable operation. meant to add you need to open the gas port, lots or people have done it in the retro section. thats also the way Colt did it. They did not work for shit and were very unreliable due to the lack of dwell time with the gas port being so close to the muzzle. This is the reason Colt dropped them and pretty much why every one uses a mid length gas system. I had Colt one back in the early 90s and it was erratic and very ammo sensitive. I loved the concept but did not trust it so I sold it off. Whent he mid length came out I jumped on one. |
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Quoted: Wait, wouldn't a 16" midlength pencil barrel work? Put an M16A1 FSB on it, that'd be the hardest part (hey, ADCO!)... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wish they made these with pencil barrels. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU5950MOE&name=Spikes+Tactical+16%22+Mid-Length+GMP+5.56%2f.223+URG&search=dissapator https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950.jpg https://4b1e874935ea5d25a97e-f099844d0e354c7ab50c55a966be6870.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/product/xstu5950c.jpg I saw that! I've considered just building one with ADCO's help rather than waiting on AIM Surplus's Spikes upper to be back in stock. 16" midlength pencil barrel, upper receiver, middie gas system, dummy FSB, plus the cost of putting it together = < 600 bucks if you shop carefully, plus not much waiting. Wait, wouldn't a 16" midlength pencil barrel work? Put an M16A1 FSB on it, that'd be the hardest part (hey, ADCO!)... The smallest ID gas block is .625" the pencil barrel profile is usually .6" or less so unless some one makes a custom sleeve to go inside the FS and turns down the front of the barrel to less than the diameter of the sleeve then its a no go. You do not have much extra material left in the barrel wall once it is a pencil barrel. You would have to silver solder the sleev in and have some weird set taper pins to get it mounted on top of that unless you used set screws which I do not trust. Clamp on FS would have the same issues. |
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The smallest ID gas block is .625" the pencil barrel profile is usually .6" or less so unless some one makes a custom sleeve to go inside the FS and turns down the front of the barrel to less than the diameter of the sleeve then its a no go. You do not have much extra material left in the barrel wall once it is a pencil barrel. You would have to silver solder the sleev in and have some weird set taper pins to get it mounted on top of that unless you used set screws which I do not trust. Clamp on FS would have the same issues. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wait, wouldn't a 16" midlength pencil barrel work? Put an M16A1 FSB on it, that'd be the hardest part (hey, ADCO!)... The smallest ID gas block is .625" the pencil barrel profile is usually .6" or less so unless some one makes a custom sleeve to go inside the FS and turns down the front of the barrel to less than the diameter of the sleeve then its a no go. You do not have much extra material left in the barrel wall once it is a pencil barrel. You would have to silver solder the sleev in and have some weird set taper pins to get it mounted on top of that unless you used set screws which I do not trust. Clamp on FS would have the same issues. Hmm, well crap. |
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