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Quoted: your opinion is simply wrong. $1k 6920 SOCOM will out shoot most everything on the market. Test results can be found on this very site. You have to spend twice on the other brands to get near the consistent average accuracy of the SOCOM. (the army wants 480,000 of them) View Quote All I said was as good or better, not cheaper |
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No citizen, they will be worthless when you are commanded to turn them in. oh and in before the $2000 6920's on EE... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
oh and in before the $2000 6920's on EE... |
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With horrendous flashing that didn't get machined off.
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Quoted: Good point. Colt's civilian production ARs have always had a reputation for "feast or famine" availability; they run off a bunch and they're everywhere, and then they dry up for periods. View Quote |
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Let me translate this for you guys, "The government has threatened to cancel Colts contract for long guns if they keep making AR-15's for the public." For you that are to young to remember the last AWB, Colt cave fast after trying to appease the government with feelgood mods to AR-15's for the public Then quit civilian production for a time.
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Hmm I should have picked up a 6960-CCU when I had the chance.
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Don't even care. Their stuff has been over priced for decades and what they do offer hasn't been what the market wanted.
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Colt can suck it. Remember when they stopped selling handguns too? Screw them and their overpriced guns. Average at best.
The only thing they have left is nostalgia from an iconic brand. Will be sad too see the brand die but the company deserves it. |
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Somebody dust of 'THE CHART'! We're gonna have to rewrite this boys!
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Apparently they dont like money either... View Quote Idiocracy "I like money" |
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Click bait thread. Commercial sales will halt while Colt focuses on LE and .mil contracts. Colts will get scarce for a few months until contract obligations met. This certainly isn't the first time Colt has focused on contracts... View Quote |
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That actually makes the most sense of any of the posts in this thread. Still the timing makes me wonder if they didn't get a phone call from somebody in politics that twisted their arms to do it now.
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Colt has done this before, '09 was the last time I recall them halting commercial sales to focus on fulfilling their contract requirements. The Colt market dried up for about 6 months that time. They're not suspending civilian sales, they're focusing their efforts on their contract fulfillment to LE and .mil... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: I'm guessing it's probably this rather than a full-bore halt on all future production of weapons and components for the civilian market. |
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Hope they don't know something we don't know. View Quote More likely though they’re just licking congressional wingtips trying to get more contracts. |
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Fuck Colt, they've never been on the side of the people. They should have been boycotted a long time ago in all truth. View Quote The appearance after testing for the few 1911s to be purchased by DOD didn't impress me either. I'd just as soon buy a steel framed Taurus or something from S&W, Sig or even Ruger for a LW Commander. |
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So far all the facts we have in this thread is that a unnamed RSR sales rep sent an email to a guy. Thats it. It could very well be a scare tactic by a guy trying to sell the rifles stacked up in his warehouse.
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Colt has more competitors in the commercial space now than at any other time in history. There are hundreds of companies in this space.
No surprise that they gave up. |
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So far all the facts we have in this thread is that a unnamed RSR sales rep sent an email to a guy. Thats it. It could very well be a scare tactic by a guy trying to sell the rifles stacked up in his warehouse. View Quote |
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I'm sure that's a factor. Brownells bought a bunch of their CCU uppers and has put them on sale twice. It's a much more crowded market than it used to be and Colt has been somewhat reluctant to update their offering because M4 contract. Their CCU is actually a very good package...but consider that it's the first mid-length gun they've offered while just about everybody else has been selling them for years. I bought both of my CCU uppers on sale because the normal price of around $700 is kind of nuts given what you can get other high quality upper receivers for. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Colt trying to help distributors move the thousands of Colts they have stacked deep in the warehouses. Brownells bought a bunch of their CCU uppers and has put them on sale twice. It's a much more crowded market than it used to be and Colt has been somewhat reluctant to update their offering because M4 contract. Their CCU is actually a very good package...but consider that it's the first mid-length gun they've offered while just about everybody else has been selling them for years. I bought both of my CCU uppers on sale because the normal price of around $700 is kind of nuts given what you can get other high quality upper receivers for. I can see Colt trying to secure some more of the old style, circa 2000 M4 contracts while quietly changing their barrel production and model lineup. I still think there is a market for a as issued US Army M4 and M4A1 but it needs to be $600 these days. No one wants an M203 cut barrel and fixed A2 front site post for more than that. It may just be a barrel, flash hider & other minor changes or maybe they plan on changing the upper/receiver as well other changes. Or they could just be idiots. |
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Smells like a terrible decision. You make that call when you HAVE .mil contracts, not when you want them. View Quote *That* my friends is how you sell rope to hang capitalists with; corporate gets a ton of money in exchange for harming the people who compose the corporation. Corporate can't die via tyrannical takeover, it merely becomes a component with even more authority to extract from its members. We (the people, not the government) should have *never* allowed corporations to operate across state lines, let alone globally. It has allowed them to accumulate power wholly incompatible with a constitutional republican form of government, as well as allegiances to foreign actors & ideas. |
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This, didn't they do this a few years back around 13 through 15? I thought I remember reading that colt was "halting production" as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Click bait thread. Commercial sales will halt while Colt focuses on LE and .mil contracts. Colts will get scarce for a few months until contract obligations met. This certainly isn't the first time Colt has focused on contracts... |
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lol. The only gun company that couldn't make money during the 2013 panic strikes again. View Quote Colt hasn't had a military contract in forever, and now, when we aren't going to war with anybody they end sales to try and get something that doesn't exist? It's an organization run by mental midgets. |
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I think you hit on something. Once again: the TIMING of this announcement is highly suspicious. Don't forget the debates over gun control in Congress as well. If anything, a smart manufacturer might be having talks to actually increase production in the short term in anticipation of a ban that might allow grandfathered weapons and have a cutoff date. Halting manufacturing and sales to civilians is a peculiar move for what might be the eve of the Mother of All Gun Panics (not saying there will be a panic). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Maybe. Or someone is trying to position themselves as being on the "right" side of an issue. Many city and state governments are starting to make noise about not doing LEO business with manufacturers who offer products like this for civilian sales. If being the exclusive supplier for all the LEAs in NY, CA, NJ etc looks like a bigger number then civi sales then that is the direction they might take. (Man I wish I had a Fudded-out Alfred E Newman to go with that. I guess the Pete Brownell Fudd meme is close enough) |
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The Colt reps always look so demoralized when I see them... View Quote Colt Rep: This year we have something awesome to show you. It's a AR15 with a monolithic rail. Spectator: Didn't LMT do that years ago? Colt Rep: Ours is better. Spectator: Why's it purple? Colt Rep: Check out this SAA clone. Spectator: It's $1,700 Colt Rep: Gidde up pilgrim. Spectator: Colt Rep: I wish I worked for KAC. |
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They've basically been selling two products for thirty years, AR's and 1911s. Three If you count the Italian made old guy wheel guns that nobody buys. Hard to get excited as a sales rep when you're constantly trotting out the same product. Colt Rep: This year we have something awesome to show you. It's a AR15 with a monolithic rail. Spectator: Didn't LMT do that years ago? Colt Rep: Ours is better. Spectator: Why's it purple? Colt Rep: Check out this SAA clone. Spectator: It's $1,700 Colt Rep: Gidde up pilgrim. Spectator: Colt Rep: I wish I worked for KAC. View Quote |
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When my wife took a course on manufacturing certs, Colt was one of the instructor’s examples of what not to do....
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Seriously, these fuckers could mess up when they have a printing press to press money!
I’m a Colt fan boy and have several of their ARs, pistols, a Colteer and even a shotgun of theirs. All they need is to put their name on something and people will buy it. They came back out with the Cobra but nothing else. They can’t make SAAs fast enough but they’ve rested on their reputation for too long. Make snake guns again, innovate and make something more than SAAs, 1911s and ARs. All of which I love but when your newest design is 60 years old you gotta do something new to sell something else old that people will buy. |
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How many times has Colt turned it's nose up at the civilian market?
They only know how to suck at the Government TIT! Colt's biggest problem is Colt's management! The State of CT bailed them out in the early 90's after a 3 year strike. How many more times have they been saved from the brink of going down the tubes? They don't innovate and it's the same products over and over. I own 5 Colts cause they are made here... |
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Let’s see so far I have the following
1 6940 2 6920’s 1 6920 socom 16.1 inch 1 6920 hbpw 14.5 P&W 2 6920 socom 14.5 P&W (US government property marked) One rollmarked, the other laser marked. 1 6933 1 6933 epr (currently in nfa jail waiting on the tax stamp approval) I’d say I’m good to go. I need to quit buying AR’s anyway as Im running out of room in my safe.. Looking at buying something else, not sure what. As far Colt goes, like others have said this is not the first time they have done this and it won't be the last. The way I see it is that if they go out of business tommorow, the above will just increase in value. |
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