Thank god he's going to do everything in his power to stop this from happening again because he's put forth so much effort in the past to make schools a safe haven for our children.

Security spending cut under Obama

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/16/us-usa-shooting-connecticut-guncontrol-idUSBRE8BF0DH20121216





several Democratic lawmakers called for a new push for U.S. gun restrictions on Sunday, including a ban on military-style assault weapons, in the wake of the Connecticut massacre in which 20 children and six adults were gunned down in a school.





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dont they always

Trying to understand these idiots give me a headache

He was in a classroom full of CHILDREN and the only adult was dead.  Cyclic rate didn't matter - they weren't going to bum rush him at the reload.

I give it 50/50 on an AWB passing during this congress.  With fiscal cliff, followed rapidly by debt ceiling, it will be competing with some other very high profile and bruising political battles.  Especially if we go over the cliff as I expect we will.

I can see some Democrat tying an AWB to a bill that permanently extends the Bush tax cuts for ALL tax brackets to entice the GOP to go along with it.

I do think an AWB/no grandfathering will pass before we go over the fiscal cliff.

Government can't have SHTF with citizens armed.

Question - what possible, conceivable mechanism could they use to pass an AWB with no grandfathering?

When they made drugs illegal, they didn't let you keep them because you already bought them before hand.

It's easy. No confiscated, but if you get caught with one, expect prosecution.

Loud music at your house? Maybe they search it.

Smell pot even though maybe now it's illegal in your own state? Maybe they search your home.

Daughter tripped and broke her arm. Maybe they suspect abuse and search your home.

Past owner may have stashed meth in the floor boards? Maybe they search your home.

In all cases, of the above, they find it, the prosecute.

When were drugs legal?



 

In the U.S.? The first Cannabis law was enacted in 1906. Prior to that, as legal as any other plant.

My grandpa told me people used to get cocaine for a toothache too but they never went house to house seizing shit or ripping up floorboards  like Libertarianyankee is saying
 

Coca Cola used to have cocaine as an ingredient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola#Coca_.E2.80.93_cocaine

They always do.

cocaine is still perscribed for certain dental / sinus work.

I have been trying to write up some emails to send my reps,between having a head cold and a 15 month old running around im having a hard time writing something well thought out does anyone have anything they would share?I need some words of wisdom don't want to sound like an idiot.

Cocain wasnt truely made illegal until tNxon decided a war on drugs would be just the ticket to put a stop to the social movements of the time. About 50 years ago. 6 trillion dollars, later and now on one uses cocain. Before that they were controlled but not illegal as they are today.  up to the late 20s cocain and opium were sold in catalogs.

The timing of this tragedy (if I may be so crude), is actually in favor of this going no where.

Christmas is coming, and the media will move on to the stories of the prosperity of the Obama economy this Christmas.

Congress goes on break, and by the time they get back, the heat will be out of the event.

I hate to think so crudely, but those that see this as a tragedy not because so many died, but that they dies by a gun make me sick.

It is as if the person had sprayed them with gasoline and burned them alive it would have been okay, but NOT killing them with a gun.

Posting over here, because the other thread is still supposed to be defined as the "OMG I am so upset" thread.

oh for fucks sake fox. bushmaster ar-15 .223 most powerful rifle in america!



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if the aurora shooting had zero effect, so will this. There will be no debate, because once facts and testimony is brought in, it will be about things other than EBR as the cause.



 

Senator/Rep XXXXX

On December 15th, a horrendous tragedy struck our nation.  A mentally disturbed man, for reasons known only to him, took the lives of children while they were spending another day at school in anticipation of the Christmas holiday.  From what has been reported in the news, he killed the registered owner of the guns, then stole the guns and the car that he used to drive to the school.  His actions violated not only the laws of our nation, but the laws of common decency.  

While no sane person can understand the thoughts that were running through his head, it seems that the psychiatric field first observed similar behaviour and officially categorized it over 150 years ago, giving it the name Amok Disorder.  In certain cultures, individuals would suddenly arm themselves, go to a crowded area, then attack as many people as they could.  The outcome frequently involved the death of rampaging person, and theories have been presented that the goal of the person with the disorder was to commit suicide, but do it in a way that would send a message that they were a fierce person to be respected and feared.  It has been reported that the mentally disturbed man killed himself, when he learned that first responders were about to arrive on the scene, so it would appear that he achieved his goal, and perhaps sent a final message that he was the one who was in control of the situation until the end.

While our country mourns this tragedy, many have been calling for strict gun control laws.  Rather than consider the mental health side of this issue, they want to focus on the tools that this sick individual used.  Under the currently existing federal laws, he could not walk into a gunstore and purchase the two handguns that he stole, or the ammunition for them, because he was under the required age of 21.  The existing laws also prohibited him from taking guns into that school, but it appears that the only thing that made him stop his murderous rampage, was the knowledge that an armed and trained first responder was about to arrive.  Some time ago, a school district in Texas decided to allow teachers, who obtained the required permits and took additional training, to carry concealed handguns in the school.  The reason given was that their rural county simply did not have the resources to provide a quick response time for police to reach the school.  Last Friday, a school principal died while rushing toward an armed attacker.  Could the outcome have been different, if that principal had been given the option of passing a training course and carrying a concealed handgun?  Would this mentally disturbed man have even chosen that school as his target, if it was common knowledge that there were trained people who were authorized to be armed in that school?

Our nation is now left with some choices to make.  Do we do nothing, throwing our hands into the air and saying that crazy people do crazy things?  Do we take another look at how we deal with the issue of people who are mentally disturbed?  Do we take another look at school security and the current practice of defending our children by simply locking the doors and telling armed criminals that it is illegal for them to enter the school?  Or do we further disarm ourselves, sending the message that this sick individual who caused so much grief is still in control of the situation?

Thank you for your time,
A concerned voter



Proofread and spellcheck before using, since I didn't.  Modify and use as you want.

 

I'm still waking up.

ETA:  Then again, I tend to ramble incoherently, when I'm completely awake.

just saw on yahoo manchin of WV would support an ban

http://news.yahoo.com/gun-control-debate-begins-simmer-massacre-080649736--politics.html

I would like to know more on this lethality that is increased by a barrel shroud.

I heard Sen. Diane Feinstein on WTOP this morning; she's calling for an outright AWB and said this will also be introduced into the House.

It begins...and on the backs of murdered children.

Also, thanks for a great letter, I will be sending that to my reps.

Another round of emails and calls to my reps this morning.
Continue to contact your reps guys. ask for replies and let them know your watching this issue closely

If he does he will be finished in this state.

When did they make drugs illegal?

Drugs ARE illegal. That's why we no longer have a drug problem in America.
 

Ya know I really wish we lived in a violence free world where we all got along like the liberals all dream of.  Sad fact the world is cold and cruel and will never be a utopia.  This is reality.  It has been that way before man in the animal world and continues well into mankind.  Wake up Liberals  wake up this is reality.  there will always be those who prey on the weak. Be able to have the tools to even the fight.

Smartest Guy in the Room at the moment

That goes without saying.  You got my point right?

Excellent article, thanks for posting

I can handle goblins puppets thats a whole other matter

This makes me want to know how many school fires have happened in the last 50 years.

Zero deaths out of how many fires?

No. The ambassador and aids had armed men on thier side.

Herein lies the problem

http://beforeitsnews.com/2012/2012/12/psychiatric-drugs-and-mass-shootings-2441362.html

Was the US born with a complete set of laws?

<sarcasm> More laws is obviously the answer... </sarcasm>

You all had better be writing and calling him.  All the pro-gun dems are going to be under enormous pressure from the antis.

That took balls on his behalf id be willing to bet he would stay out of camp dawson for the rest of his term if he does support it