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Quoted: Current situation? US will have similar infection numbers to H1N1 with a death rate of .3. We'll see less than 50k dead in the US. View Quote I tend to agree. In fact, I've posted many times that I think total deaths will be less than 50,000 given current measures. However, looking at how as of last night the death doubling rate moved from doubling every four days towards doubling every three days is troubling. |
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Quoted: Not even a good comparison. Never once has an AR killed anyone. This is about spreading out the infected long enough for the world to keep spinning. Everyone gets infected around the same time and that's when shit hits the fan, and keeps hitting the fan as the dominos fall. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Because they're super loaded questions. How many people should have to die before the govt takes away your AR? How many people should have to die before you give up your AR? Not even a good comparison. Never once has an AR killed anyone. This is about spreading out the infected long enough for the world to keep spinning. Everyone gets infected around the same time and that's when shit hits the fan, and keeps hitting the fan as the dominos fall. |
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Quoted: Those questions are retarded and so is this thread. View Quote What other kinds of questions do you think heads of state are trying to answer as they decide what appropriate countermeasures are? What are some smart questions to ask? |
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You could ask similar questions about the flu, the various flu strains that can kill 20-80 thousand people in the USA every year. For example the 2017-2018 flu season when 49 million reported illnesses and there was more than 79,000 flu-related deaths in the USA. WHO estimates 250,000 to 500,000 people die of seasonal flu annually.
Saying it's just the flu really is stupid as the flu is nothing to take lightly. |
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Quoted: My one question. If its so bad why is everyone allowed to work? If you do anything except sell chick shit at chick stores , you're still working here. I thought were all gonna die if we leave our houses ? Why is work safe ,and anything not work related a death sentence ? View Quote Mysterious. If you're a teacher or in some other union you're sitting at home and getting paid. I'll just keep my head down and keep working y'all... |
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and the one question the doomers wont answer: Was it worth collapsing the world economy to save what equates to a few day's worth of natural deaths? I wonder what this cost the world per death
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Crystal ball time. To many unknowns
Now if China was not in the business of lying we might actually have a better idea what the base line is |
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Quoted: That's not the death rate. That's the ratio of deaths to total cases. It means jack squat because it includes people who haven't died yet but will. Some MSM sources have been incorrectly calling it a death rate in recent days, though. View Quote how the hell do you calculate a percentage without knowing your denominator? |
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Quoted: What other kinds of questions do you think heads of state are trying to answer as they decide what appropriate countermeasures are? What are some smart questions to ask? View Quote Meanwhile in the fed govt they're wondering what kind of shit they can pass and how to make more money. |
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Ooh, you really got em OP.
Also, the “how many lives saved would make it worthwhile” question sounds like something Obama would write in his journal. |
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How many will die related to the economic fallout?
I bet it's more than from the virus... |
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Quoted: how the hell do you calculate a percentage without knowing your denominator? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: That's not the death rate. That's the ratio of deaths to total cases. It means jack squat because it includes people who haven't died yet but will. Some MSM sources have been incorrectly calling it a death rate in recent days, though. how the hell do you calculate a percentage without knowing your denominator? Death rates aren't calculated as straight percentages, although sometimes they're expressed as such. They're complex estimates arrived at from large datasets and include a time-based component. For example, the CDC's seasonal flu death rate calculations for the last two flu seasons are still in their preliminary stages. They're not even considered final yet. |
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On a scale of 1-10, how emotional do you get when someone doesn’t agree with you?
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If you're at risk keep your sickly ass at home and ask people not to come over. Stop ruining everyone's life because you sickly boomers want to go to walmart.
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Quoted: Probably wondering what kind of money they'll be getting from the federal govt. Meanwhile in the fed govt they're wondering what kind of shit they can pass and how to make more money. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What other kinds of questions do you think heads of state are trying to answer as they decide what appropriate countermeasures are? What are some smart questions to ask? Meanwhile in the fed govt they're wondering what kind of shit they can pass and how to make more money. There's a lot of truth in what you wrote, but what kinds of questions do you think Trump is trying to get answers to as he decides what to do next? |
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Quoted: I've posed several simple questions that flu bros won't answer. Nos. 7-8 are the only new questions on the list. With every question I have posted, I have predicted that no one would answer it. Over the course of about a week, only one flu bro has answered only one of the questions, no. 6. So, flu bros, what do you say? 1. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the infection rate reach? HIGHER 2. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the final death rate be? HIGHER 3. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the infection rate reach? LOWER 4. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the final death rate be? LOWER 5. On what date will deaths stop doubling every 3-4 days and the doubling rate begin to slow? MAGIC 8 BALL SAYS - ASK AGAIN LATER 6. How many lives saved would make the current quarantine measures worth it? MORE DATA NEEDED; PARTICULAR LIVES HAVE MORE VALUE 7. How many would have to die before people would self-quarantine without government directives? MORE 8. How many would have to die before people should self-quarantine of their own accord? SOME THINGS EACH MAN MUST DECIDE FOR HIMSELF All answers will, of course, be approximations. I am using the word quarantine loosely, to mean staying at home and procuring only essential goods and services. View Quote i'm not sure what a flubro is, it seems to be used to describe over and under reactors both, but there are the answers you seek |
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Quoted: and the one question the doomers wont answer: Was it worth collapsing the world economy to save what equates to a few day's worth of natural deaths? I wonder what this cost the world per death View Quote This is the only question that matters. None of OP's questions do. Guess what, OP... The virus is here, and EVERYONE is going to get it. Eventually. There's no magic potion that will erase the virus from the face of the earth. What's better: to let everyone be exposed to the virus, deal with the tragic deaths, and rejoice in the lives that are not lost? Or to let everyone be exposed to the virus, but only AFTER you've crashed the entire world's economy so that there's no treatment options left for those that ARE at risk? And how many people will be allowed to die in the following panics? How many people starving to death will be acceptable? How many dying because they can't get their needed heart medications? Or diabetes medications? Or epi-pens? What's the number of people that it's okay to kill from other causes, so they don't catch the Corona virus? |
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1. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the infection rate reach?
Same as if no measures were taken. 2. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the final death rate be? Slightly to moderately higher than if no measures were taken due to health care system dealing with more critical patients at once. 3. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the infection rate reach? Same 4. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the final death rate be? Slightly less, see above. 5. On what date will deaths stop doubling every 3-4 days and the doubling rate begin to slow? Idk 6. How many lives saved would make the current quarantine measures worth it? Like vampires? We’re all going to die. My answer, way more than will die given even the worst case scenario. 7. How many would have to die before people would self-quarantine without government directives? Idk ask them, would have to be people dropping dead all over for me to care. 8. How many would have to die before people should self-quarantine of their own accord? Coulda shoulda woulda |
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Quoted: Happier. Your death rate is 21.7 times lower than the lowest estimated death rate, btw. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've posed several simple questions that flu bros won't answer. Nos. 7-8 are the only new questions on the list. With every question I have posted, I have predicted that no one would answer it. Over the course of about a week, only one flu bro has answered only one of the questions, no. 6. So, flu bros, what do you say? 1. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the infection rate reach? 2. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the final death rate be? 3. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the infection rate reach? 4. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the final death rate be? 5. On what date will deaths stop doubling every 3-4 days and the doubling rate begin to slow? 6. How many lives saved would make the current quarantine measures worth it? 7. How many would have to die before people would self-quarantine without government directives? 8. How many would have to die before people should self-quarantine of their own accord? All answers will, of course, be approximations. I am using the word quarantine loosely, to mean staying at home and procuring only essential goods and services. OK Doomer. 1) you can't know this because we don't have an alternate reality 2) see number one 3) what do you mean "infection rate". Number of people in the US who will get the disease? 20% is my guess 4) under 200,000 deaths, 0.06% of the US population 5) In a few days, most likely. It's showing signs of trending down in MOST countries, but not the US. 6) You're asking a very nebulous question based on data we'll never know. Pass 7) Impossible to know human behaviour 8) Stupid question as well. But I could guess maybe 1/2 million. We are at 750 deaths in the US so far, which is 0.0004% of the US population. Happy? Happier. Your death rate is 21.7 times lower than the lowest estimated death rate, btw. Who made that estimate? Does that organization have a vested interest in making a falsely large estimate? .gov is literally creaming their pants over the control this has given them. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What other kinds of questions do you think heads of state are trying to answer as they decide what appropriate countermeasures are? What are some smart questions to ask? Meanwhile in the fed govt they're wondering what kind of shit they can pass and how to make more money. There's a lot of truth in what you wrote, but what kinds of questions do you think Trump is trying to get answers to as he decides what to do next? I'm aware of that tweet. That's why I asked the question. |
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Quoted: Lol. Half those questions require a crystal ball and you can't answer them either. Edit...over half View Quote FPNI. Can OP give us th exact answers to any of his own questions? And I'm not a Flu Bro, I think it is serious - not end of life as we know it serious, but not to be ignore or taken lightly serious. |
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Quoted: 1. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the infection rate reach? 2. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the final death rate be? 3. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the infection rate reach? 4. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the final death rate be? 5. On what date will deaths stop doubling every 3-4 days and the doubling rate begin to slow? 6. How many lives saved would make the current quarantine measures worth it? 7. How many would have to die before people would self-quarantine without government directives? 8. How many would have to die before people should self-quarantine of their own accord? View Quote 1) 0 weebs infected, 19 normies 2) 0 weebs, 3 normies 3) 0 weebs (they self quarantine already as a way of life), 3.17 normies per week 4) 0 weebs, 12.384 normies dead 5) 30th February 2020 6) 375,000,000 Americans 7) 6.9 billion 8) 7.3 billion Hope that helps OP |
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Quoted: Ask yourself this. Who made that estimate? Does that organization have a vested interest in making a falsely large estimate? .gov is literally creaming their pants over the control this has given them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've posed several simple questions that flu bros won't answer. Nos. 7-8 are the only new questions on the list. With every question I have posted, I have predicted that no one would answer it. Over the course of about a week, only one flu bro has answered only one of the questions, no. 6. So, flu bros, what do you say? 1. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the infection rate reach? 2. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the final death rate be? 3. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the infection rate reach? 4. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the final death rate be? 5. On what date will deaths stop doubling every 3-4 days and the doubling rate begin to slow? 6. How many lives saved would make the current quarantine measures worth it? 7. How many would have to die before people would self-quarantine without government directives? 8. How many would have to die before people should self-quarantine of their own accord? All answers will, of course, be approximations. I am using the word quarantine loosely, to mean staying at home and procuring only essential goods and services. OK Doomer. 1) you can't know this because we don't have an alternate reality 2) see number one 3) what do you mean "infection rate". Number of people in the US who will get the disease? 20% is my guess 4) under 200,000 deaths, 0.06% of the US population 5) In a few days, most likely. It's showing signs of trending down in MOST countries, but not the US. 6) You're asking a very nebulous question based on data we'll never know. Pass 7) Impossible to know human behaviour 8) Stupid question as well. But I could guess maybe 1/2 million. We are at 750 deaths in the US so far, which is 0.0004% of the US population. Happy? Happier. Your death rate is 21.7 times lower than the lowest estimated death rate, btw. Who made that estimate? Does that organization have a vested interest in making a falsely large estimate? .gov is literally creaming their pants over the control this has given them. "A team of infectious disease experts." I used the lowest death rate (not ratio of deaths to total cases) estimate I've seen to do my math. If you've seen a lower one, post it up. |
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Quoted: Death rates aren't calculated as straight percentages, although sometimes they're expressed as such. They're complex estimates arrived at from large datasets and include a time-based component. For example, the CDC's seasonal flu death rate calculations for the last two flu seasons are still in their preliminary stages. They're not even considered final yet. View Quote So, knowing how death rates are calculated, and understanding that those numbers are still pretty much a guess due to incomplete data. How do you expect anyone to answer any of those questions? |
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Quoted: Ask yourself this. Who made that estimate? Does that organization have a vested interest in making a falsely large estimate? .gov is literally creaming their pants over the control this has given them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've posed several simple questions that flu bros won't answer. Nos. 7-8 are the only new questions on the list. With every question I have posted, I have predicted that no one would answer it. Over the course of about a week, only one flu bro has answered only one of the questions, no. 6. So, flu bros, what do you say? 1. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the infection rate reach? 2. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the final death rate be? 3. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the infection rate reach? 4. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the final death rate be? 5. On what date will deaths stop doubling every 3-4 days and the doubling rate begin to slow? 6. How many lives saved would make the current quarantine measures worth it? 7. How many would have to die before people would self-quarantine without government directives? 8. How many would have to die before people should self-quarantine of their own accord? All answers will, of course, be approximations. I am using the word quarantine loosely, to mean staying at home and procuring only essential goods and services. OK Doomer. 1) you can't know this because we don't have an alternate reality 2) see number one 3) what do you mean "infection rate". Number of people in the US who will get the disease? 20% is my guess 4) under 200,000 deaths, 0.06% of the US population 5) In a few days, most likely. It's showing signs of trending down in MOST countries, but not the US. 6) You're asking a very nebulous question based on data we'll never know. Pass 7) Impossible to know human behaviour 8) Stupid question as well. But I could guess maybe 1/2 million. We are at 750 deaths in the US so far, which is 0.0004% of the US population. Happy? Happier. Your death rate is 21.7 times lower than the lowest estimated death rate, btw. Who made that estimate? Does that organization have a vested interest in making a falsely large estimate? .gov is literally creaming their pants over the control this has given them. Six weeks is all it took for those who formerly understood that the government and MSM lies and operates with ulterior motives regarding EVERY topic of major import to suddenly turn into the most obnoxious parrots screeching every word and phrase uttered from the mouths of these fraudulent criminals. |
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I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
I guess we could all just cower in fear in our homes while the whole world burns to the ground while we eat mountain house and spam. Not me. People die Looks like a few extra people might die It’s bad It’s sad It still doesn’t justify shutting the entire planet down. If you choose to quarantine yourself fine. If I choose not to then so be it. Freedom be scary bro When this thing gets worse than vehicle deaths let me know but in the meantime I’m still driving and still going to work. Flubro or whatever I don’t give a shit |
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Quoted: Six weeks is all it took for those who formerly understood that the government and MSM lies and operates with ulterior motives regarding EVERY topic of major import to suddenly turn into the most obnoxious parrots screeching every word and phrase uttered from the mouths of these fraudulent criminals. View Quote |
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Quoted: I've posed several simple questions that flu bros won't answer. Nos. 7-8 are the only new questions on the list. With every question I have posted, I have predicted that no one would answer it. Over the course of about a week, only one flu bro has answered only one of the questions, no. 6. So, flu bros, what do you say? 1. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the infection rate reach? 2. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the final death rate be? 3. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the infection rate reach? 4. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the final death rate be? 5. On what date will deaths stop doubling every 3-4 days and the doubling rate begin to slow? 6. How many lives saved would make the current quarantine measures worth it? 7. How many would have to die before people would self-quarantine without government directives? 8. How many would have to die before people should self-quarantine of their own accord? All answers will, of course, be approximations. I am using the word quarantine loosely, to mean staying at home and procuring only essential goods and services. View Quote ETA: Everyone is hoping warmer weather kills the virus? |
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Quoted: Ask yourself this. Who made that estimate? Does that organization have a vested interest in making a falsely large estimate? .gov is literally creaming their pants over the control this has given them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've posed several simple questions that flu bros won't answer. Nos. 7-8 are the only new questions on the list. With every question I have posted, I have predicted that no one would answer it. Over the course of about a week, only one flu bro has answered only one of the questions, no. 6. So, flu bros, what do you say? 1. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the infection rate reach? 2. If few, if any, quarantine measures had been taken in the U.S., what would the final death rate be? 3. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the infection rate reach? 4. Given the quarantine measures that we have taken, what will the final death rate be? 5. On what date will deaths stop doubling every 3-4 days and the doubling rate begin to slow? 6. How many lives saved would make the current quarantine measures worth it? 7. How many would have to die before people would self-quarantine without government directives? 8. How many would have to die before people should self-quarantine of their own accord? All answers will, of course, be approximations. I am using the word quarantine loosely, to mean staying at home and procuring only essential goods and services. OK Doomer. 1) you can't know this because we don't have an alternate reality 2) see number one 3) what do you mean "infection rate". Number of people in the US who will get the disease? 20% is my guess 4) under 200,000 deaths, 0.06% of the US population 5) In a few days, most likely. It's showing signs of trending down in MOST countries, but not the US. 6) You're asking a very nebulous question based on data we'll never know. Pass 7) Impossible to know human behaviour 8) Stupid question as well. But I could guess maybe 1/2 million. We are at 750 deaths in the US so far, which is 0.0004% of the US population. Happy? Happier. Your death rate is 21.7 times lower than the lowest estimated death rate, btw. Who made that estimate? Does that organization have a vested interest in making a falsely large estimate? .gov is literally creaming their pants over the control this has given them. On that note, you haven’t been updating your thread. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/We-are-2-weeks-behind-Europe-Day-6-up/5-2306066/ |
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Quoted: I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees. I guess we could all just cower in fear in our homes while the whole world burns to the ground while we eat mountain house and spam. Not me. People die Looks like a few extra people might die It’s bad It’s sad It still doesn’t justify shutting the entire planet down. If you choose to quarantine yourself fine. If I choose not to then so be it. Freedom be scary bro When this thing gets worse than vehicle deaths let me know but in the meantime I’m still driving and still going to work. Flubro or whatever I don’t give a shit View Quote nailed it so good, I'm going to QFT |
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