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9mm guns are officially obsolete. .380 loads can now penetrate 12"-14" and there is no difference between calibers.
Cheaper, less muzzle rise, faster follow up shots and now guns that keep the same magazine size. 9mm is done. |
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Quoted: Ruger has some of the best customer service in the business. If your gun doesn't function contact them. They will make it right View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I carry my Gen 1 LCP regularly. It's been very reliable. I bought a Gen II in 2020, but had some feed problems with it, that I think are corrected now, but haven't been able to shoot enough .380 through it to have confidence to carry it (my .380 stock is running low). Definitely interested in the LCP Max. Did the problem fix itself or did you do something to it? I cannot get through a magazine without a failure to feed @apmonte @2ndamendmentknights Things would get so jammed up that I had a hard time pulling back the slide. I originally thought I was having a problem with one of my magazines, but suspect it's a feed ramp issue. It wouldn't surprise me if there's something just not right with the design. I polished the feed ramp to mirror, as I do with most of my pistols, and that seems to have helped significantly. I just don't have enough .380 stocked right now to run through it to gain enough confidence to put it into EDC rotation. I polished with some Flitz metal polish, using Conical Felt Point tips on my dogs cordless nail trimmer. Ruger has some of the best customer service in the business. If your gun doesn't function contact them. They will make it right |
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Quoted: 9mm guns are officially obsolete. .380 loads can now penetrate 12"-14" and there is no difference between calibers. Cheaper, less muzzle rise, faster follow up shots and now guns that keep the same magazine size. 9mm is done. View Quote I wouldn't go that far. For Service pistols that need barrier penetration reliably the 9mm is still the floor. However, this is definitely not as stringent a requirement for self defense pistols. This is a big point of contention among the Faithful. Some want that capability, some don't think it's an absolute requirement for a pocket pistol. I think it's a wash between carrying an FBI approved caliber pistol sometimes vs carrying a.380 ALL the time. Rule #1 of gunfighting: Have a gun on you. The LCP2 fills that very well with its useable trigger and decent sights. The Max gets better with real sights and significant capacity. I'll get off my "The FBI fucks over CCW carriers with its pseudo scientific protocol " now. |
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Quoted: 9mm guns are officially obsolete. .380 loads can now penetrate 12"-14" and there is no difference between calibers. Cheaper, less muzzle rise, faster follow up shots and now guns that keep the same magazine size. 9mm is done. View Quote Attached File |
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Just placed a pre-order for one.
I've really liked all of the LCPs. My original LCP was awesome except it was so uncomfortable to shoot. A magazine or two and I was done. The LCP II is awesome, comfortable to shoot all day, a little nail polish on the sights and they are great. Love my .22 LCP as well. Best gun ever for pocket carry, an additional 4 rounds is a no-brainer. |
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Quoted: Just placed a pre-order for one. I've really liked all of the LCPs. My original LCP was awesome except it was so uncomfortable to shoot. A magazine or two and I was done. The LCP II is awesome, comfortable to shoot all day, a little nail polish on the sights and they are great. Love my .22 LCP as well. Best gun ever for pocket carry, an additional 4 rounds is a no-brainer. View Quote The LCP i had worked well, but i could never hit anything with it unlike the Walther or Kahr. Maybe they have made improvements in accuracy since then? Why not a 12/14 shot .32acp version? |
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Quoted: The LCP i had worked well, but i could never hit anything with it unlike the Walther or Kahr. Maybe they have made improvements in accuracy since then? Why not a 12/14 shot .32acp version? View Quote You are correct, I was lucky to keep all the rounds on a paper plate at 7 yds or so with the original LCP. My LCP II is awesome, I shoot steel at 15/20yds quickly and easily. |
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I have no idea if Texas will see a boost in purchases as the September 1st law change occurs, or will after. This would be a great marketing approach, released with that in mind.
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Pocket gun, but with no manual safety?
Swing and a miss, Ruger. |
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Shouldn’t be an issue if you are using a pocket holster that covers the trigger.
ETA meant to quote the post above me. |
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Quoted: You are correct, I was lucky to keep all the rounds on a paper plate at 7 yds or so with the original LCP. My LCP II is awesome, I shoot steel at 15/20yds quickly and easily. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The LCP i had worked well, but i could never hit anything with it unlike the Walther or Kahr. Maybe they have made improvements in accuracy since then? Why not a 12/14 shot .32acp version? You are correct, I was lucky to keep all the rounds on a paper plate at 7 yds or so with the original LCP. My LCP II is awesome, I shoot steel at 15/20yds quickly and easily. @walldj45 @110 I can't hit the side of a barn with my 1st gen but there has to be a way to solve that. Someone told me to shoot it using one hand only so that is my plan next time I shoot it. I am sure there is a thread here somewhere on that topic, I need to find it. |
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Quoted: Pocket gun, but with no manual safety? Swing and a miss, Ruger. View Quote I've been carrying pocket guns without an external safety for many years. Why would I want an external safety? I've trained until I'm competent enough to keep my trigger off the trigger until my firearm is drawn and pointed away from my person. Unless you pull the trigger the gun isn't going to magically discharge. |
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Quoted: I've been carrying pocket guns without an external safety for many years. Why would I want an external safety? I've trained until I'm competent enough to keep my trigger off the trigger until my firearm is drawn and pointed away from my person. Unless you pull the trigger the gun isn't going to magically discharge. View Quote I’m sure it works for you and others who, for personal reasons, dislike manual safeties. To each their own. But to imply that only those who are incompetent concerning the handling of firearms would want a manual safety is absurd. I too, am well trained. But for certain weapons, I like the addition of a manual safety to use in concert with weapons safe handling procedures, not in place of them. |
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Quoted: The LCP i had worked well, but i could never hit anything with it unlike the Walther or Kahr. Maybe they have made improvements in accuracy since then? Why not a 12/14 shot .32acp version? View Quote I shoot my LCPII a hell of a lot better than my Kahr CM9. Maybe it is because I was never much of a double action revolver shooter. |
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Quoted: Pocket gun, but with no manual safety? Swing and a miss, Ruger. View Quote what is an improvement on one of the highest selling lines of pocket carry guns in over the last decade is a swing and a miss? Do you also prefer manual safeties on all of your carry pistols? Or, do you have modes of carry that you don't prefer them? |
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Quoted: what is an improvement on one of the highest selling lines of pocket carry guns in over the last decade is a swing and a miss? Do you also prefer manual safeties on all of your carry pistols? Or, do you have modes of carry that you don't prefer them? View Quote I think overall, the MAX *is* an improvement on the old LCP/LCPII. I was pretty happy to see it advertised, as a 10-12 cap 380 pocket-size gun from Ruger (I brand I like and trust -- a lot) sounds GREAT. But I also think that it is a "miss" in that MOST respected manufacturers of compact "CCW"-class weapons are starting to offer BOTH manual safety and NON-manual safety models. Ruger even offers it on their LCP 22LR. However, Ruger chose NOT to offer one their LCPII MAX, where it would have been easier to do in that they already had to design a new grip/frame to accommodate the thicker magazine. I think THAT was a miss, but I am hoping it will be temporary, and a MS model will be along shortly. I only have a few weapons that I consistently carry (P365 and S&W Bodyguard, for examples), and yes, on such weapons in that use case, I greatly prefer a manual safety. For ultra-light carry, I chose the Bodyguard instead of my LCP for that reason. |
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Quoted: This isn't a striker fired gun. View Quote My bad. But it still has a light striker type trigger and that doesn't make me feel good carrying aiwb. I still prefer a manual safety. |
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We need a modernized rimless other pressure 32 ACP. This gun in that cal with two more rounds in would be perfect.
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Quoted: We need a modernized rimless other pressure 32 ACP. This gun in that cal with two more rounds in would be perfect. View Quote 25 & 32 NAA |
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Quoted: Quoted: We need a modernized rimless other pressure 32 ACP. This gun in that cal with two more rounds in would be perfect. 25 & 32 NAA Those are bottlenecked cartridges though. 32 NAA uses .380 brass necked down to .32 if I remember correctly. No additional capacity gained over .380. What would be cool is a modern(non semi rimmed) straight walled .32 cartridge that is high enough pressure to mimic .32 H&R magnum loads. But the same size as .32 ACP |
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It looks like I'll be relegating my other pocket .380 (a S&W Bodyguard) to the strongbox in my Tesla (deal with it). The new staggered magazines are a huge game changer.
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Ruger makes this while Sig just stuffs a shim in their 365 mag rather than shrinking down the whole package?
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Quoted: Those are bottlenecked cartridges though. 32 NAA uses .380 brass necked down to .32 if I remember correctly. No additional capacity gained over .380. What would be cool is a modern(non semi rimmed) straight walled .32 cartridge that is high enough pressure to mimic .32 H&R magnum loads. But the same size as .32 ACP View Quote Exactly |
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Quoted: I'm sure it works for you and others who, for personal reasons, dislike manual safeties. To each their own. But to imply that only those who are incompetent concerning the handling of firearms would want a manual safety is absurd. I too, am well trained. But for certain weapons, I like the addition of a manual safety to use in concert with weapons safe handling procedures, not in place of them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've been carrying pocket guns without an external safety for many years. Why would I want an external safety? I've trained until I'm competent enough to keep my trigger off the trigger until my firearm is drawn and pointed away from my person. Unless you pull the trigger the gun isn't going to magically discharge. I'm sure it works for you and others who, for personal reasons, dislike manual safeties. To each their own. But to imply that only those who are incompetent concerning the handling of firearms would want a manual safety is absurd. I too, am well trained. But for certain weapons, I like the addition of a manual safety to use in concert with weapons safe handling procedures, not in place of them. They've already sold a fuckload of LCPs without manual safeties |
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Quoted: The pocket holster is the safety imo. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/333164/71wup2JcdYL__AC_SX425__jpg-1997294.JPG I like my BORAII View Quote Yep, the holster IS the safety. Ive got a BORA holster for my original Lcp. Perfect holster. Great little pocket gun. |
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View Quote Yes, damn you ruger took an extra day. Will 22lr be nexr |
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I still like to original version for pocket carry in gym shorts or swim trunks.
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