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Quoted: Oh, okay. A Ponzi Scheme backed by deluded Boomers is bankrupting the US, literally nothing else. View Quote That's only 50% of the budget, tho, bro. Aid to ukraine accounted for 5% of 15% of the budget. I'm pretty sure Socialist Party social welfare programs that have eaten 50% of the budget for the past 70 years aren't the real problem. It's that 0.75% of the budget that went to aiding Ukraine last year that's gonna kill us. Tucker told me so. |
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Quoted: No, a military aircraft getting intentionally destroyed in international airspace was *not* pretty common during the Cold War. US Recon aircraft flying into hostile airspace, yes. International airspace, no. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ukie simps are jerking furiously over the prospect of escalation... An American asset was intentionally destroyed in international waters and this is all you have to say? Speaks volumes about your patriotism. An incident of a type that that was pretty common during the cold war. We didn’t go kinetic then, why do you want to go kinetic now? You remember the Cold War, yes? No, a military aircraft getting intentionally destroyed in international airspace was *not* pretty common during the Cold War. US Recon aircraft flying into hostile airspace, yes. International airspace, no. Has it been confirmed that it was operated by the military? I keep seeing "US drone" instead of "US Air Force drone." |
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Quoted: That's only 50% of the budget, tho, bro. Aid to ukraine accounted for 5% of 15% of the budget. I'm pretty sure Socialist Party social welfare programs that have eaten 50% of the budget for the past 70 years aren't the real problem. It's that 0.75% of the budget that went to aiding Ukraine last year that's gonna kill us. Tucker told me so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Oh, okay. A Ponzi Scheme backed by deluded Boomers is bankrupting the US, literally nothing else. That's only 50% of the budget, tho, bro. Aid to ukraine accounted for 5% of 15% of the budget. I'm pretty sure Socialist Party social welfare programs that have eaten 50% of the budget for the past 70 years aren't the real problem. It's that 0.75% of the budget that went to aiding Ukraine last year that's gonna kill us. Tucker told me so. We have a budget.....? I thought we just printed money as we needed it |
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Quoted: Has it been confirmed that it was operated by the military? I keep seeing "US drone" instead of "US Air Force drone." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ukie simps are jerking furiously over the prospect of escalation... An American asset was intentionally destroyed in international waters and this is all you have to say? Speaks volumes about your patriotism. An incident of a type that that was pretty common during the cold war. We didn’t go kinetic then, why do you want to go kinetic now? You remember the Cold War, yes? No, a military aircraft getting intentionally destroyed in international airspace was *not* pretty common during the Cold War. US Recon aircraft flying into hostile airspace, yes. International airspace, no. Has it been confirmed that it was operated by the military? I keep seeing "US drone" instead of "US Air Force drone." The Border Patrol could be really lost. |
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Quoted: Oh, okay. A Ponzi Scheme backed by deluded Boomers is bankrupting the US, literally nothing else. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Patriotism? Our government labeled us domestic terrorists, and enemies of the state for absolutely no reason other than their hatred towards us. Fuck patriotism, they can get fucked. Any remaining “patriot” is suffering from battered wife syndrome. Just because the democrats did this, you are ready to give up on your country? What’s next, siding with its enemies like Russia, China and Iran? It’s not what the patriots I know do. How is not wanting to send billions to another country giving up on ours? That makes no sense. Well the back of the coin is the view that in order for America to be great and wonderful she also has to be the world's police force. But we have been intervening in other countries affairs for so long they either A) Hate us or B) Expect us to pick up their slack Keep in mind the same people saying send more to Ukraine are going to tell you that social security is welfare and fuck the old people. The truth is that conservatism needs a complete overhaul cause most "patriots" as just big government loving boomers. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2021_us_budget_jpg-2746272.JPG And? https://c.tenor.com/7OAwgxBH998AAAAC/tenor.gif Use the graph to make a point but I really do love that meme that was hilarious. Thank you. Oh, okay. A Ponzi Scheme backed by deluded Boomers is bankrupting the US, literally nothing else. Ahhh thank you. The point I was more broadly making was that instead of taking care of Americans--via a social program they paid into in exchange for an expectation of a return (regardless of that lie), we could propose a new program or other mechanism to address a gap in savings but we are going to continue to focus on fucking with other countries wars.....to fight an enemy that has no capacity to invade or harm us with its military short of the use of nuclear weapons that I am repeatedly told either don't work or they won't use. It's a difference of opinion on how to out Americans first I think. |
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Quoted: Ahhh thank you. The point I was more broadly making was that instead of taking care of Americans--via a social program they paid into in exchange for an expectation of a return (regardless of that lie), we could propose a new program or other mechanism to address a gap in savings but we are going to continue to focus on fucking with other countries wars.....to fight an enemy that has no capacity to invade or harm us with its military short of the use of nuclear weapons that I am repeatedly told either don't work or they won't use. It's a difference of opinion on how to out Americans first I think. View Quote Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. |
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Quoted: Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. View Quote 50 year evolution of the conservative movement in one short video clip. I deserve free money! |
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Quoted: Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Ahhh thank you. The point I was more broadly making was that instead of taking care of Americans--via a social program they paid into in exchange for an expectation of a return (regardless of that lie), we could propose a new program or other mechanism to address a gap in savings but we are going to continue to focus on fucking with other countries wars.....to fight an enemy that has no capacity to invade or harm us with its military short of the use of nuclear weapons that I am repeatedly told either don't work or they won't use. It's a difference of opinion on how to out Americans first I think. Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. |
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There is a Global Hawk up in the area now….
Kinda heading the wrong way but still at altitude. Reapers “can” carry the Aim 9X. That would be a bit of a deterrent. |
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Quoted: You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. View Quote Go get your money back from the people who spent your SS taxes. |
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Quoted: You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ahhh thank you. The point I was more broadly making was that instead of taking care of Americans--via a social program they paid into in exchange for an expectation of a return (regardless of that lie), we could propose a new program or other mechanism to address a gap in savings but we are going to continue to focus on fucking with other countries wars.....to fight an enemy that has no capacity to invade or harm us with its military short of the use of nuclear weapons that I am repeatedly told either don't work or they won't use. It's a difference of opinion on how to out Americans first I think. Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. You are stuck in Ukraine!? Oh... You just said that for the drama... |
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Quoted: The Border Patrol could be really lost. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ukie simps are jerking furiously over the prospect of escalation... An American asset was intentionally destroyed in international waters and this is all you have to say? Speaks volumes about your patriotism. An incident of a type that that was pretty common during the cold war. We didn’t go kinetic then, why do you want to go kinetic now? You remember the Cold War, yes? No, a military aircraft getting intentionally destroyed in international airspace was *not* pretty common during the Cold War. US Recon aircraft flying into hostile airspace, yes. International airspace, no. Has it been confirmed that it was operated by the military? I keep seeing "US drone" instead of "US Air Force drone." The Border Patrol could be really lost. Could be spooks. |
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Quoted: What difference would that make? I'm pretty sure it wasn't owned by Burger King. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Has it been confirmed that it was operated by the military? I keep seeing "US drone" instead of "US Air Force drone." What difference would that make? I'm pretty sure it wasn't owned by Burger King. You gonna put a "in loving memory" marker buoy at the site? |
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Quoted: Go get your money back from the people who spent your SS taxes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. Go get your money back from the people who spent your SS taxes. Its already spent on whatever welfare leaches spend ours and his money on. The natives here love to call the EBT card the "Eating Bigtime Card". |
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Quoted: EUCOM OFFICIAL STATEMENT “Two Russian Su-27 aircraft conducted an unsafe and unprofessional intercept with a U.S. Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance unmanned MQ-9 aircraft that was operating within international airspace over the Black Sea today. At approximately 7:03 AM (CET), one of the Russian Su-27 aircraft struck the propeller of the MQ-9, causing U.S. forces to have to bring the MQ-9 down in international waters. Several times before the collision, the Su-27s dumped fuel on and flew in front of the MQ-9 in a reckless, environmentally unsound and unprofessional manner. This incident demonstrates a lack of competence in addition to being unsafe and unprofessional. "Our MQ-9 aircraft was conducting routine operations in international airspace when it was intercepted and hit by a Russian aircraft, resulting in a crash and complete loss of the MQ-9," said U.S. Air Force Gen. James B. Hecker, commander, U.S. Air Forces Europe and Air Forces Africa. "In fact, this unsafe and unprofessional act by the Russians nearly caused both aircraft to crash." "U.S. and Allied aircraft will continue to operate in international airspace and we call on the Russians to conduct themselves professionally and safely, Hecker added. This incident follows a pattern of dangerous actions by Russian pilots while interacting with U.S. and Allied aircraft over international airspace, including over the Black Sea. These aggressive actions by Russian aircrew are dangerous and could lead to miscalculation and unintended escalation.” View Quote This sounds like they were intentionally trying to bring it down by it catching fire. |
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Quoted: You are stuck in Ukraine!? Oh... You just said that for the drama... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ahhh thank you. The point I was more broadly making was that instead of taking care of Americans--via a social program they paid into in exchange for an expectation of a return (regardless of that lie), we could propose a new program or other mechanism to address a gap in savings but we are going to continue to focus on fucking with other countries wars.....to fight an enemy that has no capacity to invade or harm us with its military short of the use of nuclear weapons that I am repeatedly told either don't work or they won't use. It's a difference of opinion on how to out Americans first I think. Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. You are stuck in Ukraine!? Oh... You just said that for the drama... We are stuck in Ukraine. But since I'm a citizen I take upon myself the body politic and identify as the whole. I am an American America is stuck in Ukraine I am stuck in Ukraine. No drama just a state of being. |
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They made an agreement to keep NATO off Russian borders and broke it. Everything will change in an instant when they have to reinstate the Draft because NO ONE, especially the woke generation, wants to go fight and die for Ukraine. They will have to press gang them off the streets but that won’t end well
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Quoted: That’s really strange for an American “patriot” to be wishing for View Quote Says the guy shilling for a foreign country with an American flag in his avatar. This country no longer commands or deserves respect. It's just as corrupt as The Ukraine. I took down all my flags the day the pedophile got installed. I have no respect for our gov or those who support them in any way including the current ponzi scheme. Either shit or get off the pot. Either put on the big boy panties and fix what they caused or get the hell out of The Ukraine, physically and financially. We have enough problems at home where the US shouldn't be playing world police and trying to provoke WW3. Kick it off or go away like the POS they are. God, I need to figure out where the ignore button is. There will only be one on that list. |
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Quoted: They made an agreement to keep NATO off Russian borders and broke it. Everything will change in an instant when they have to reinstate the Draft because NO ONE, especially the woke generation, wants to go fight and die for Ukraine. They will have to press gang them off the streets but that won’t end well View Quote I was reading more about the assurances we gave about not one foot east etc etc... Very interesting we have been breaking promises for a long time in the US....we don't like to talk about that but damn it amazes me anyone even acts like they trust us. |
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Quoted: Quoted: We are stuck in Ukraine. But since I'm a citizen I take upon myself the body politic and identify as the whole. I am an American America is stuck in Ukraine I am stuck in Ukraine. No drama just a state of being. How many divisions did we send? Andy we are stuck in the political sense...hence your ilk screaming that we have to support Ukraine with any means necessary..... Now I do beleive we have advisors on the ground coordinating air strikes....but I can't prove that. |
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Quoted: I was reading more about the assurances we gave about not one foot east etc etc... Very interesting we have been breaking promises for a long time in the US....we don't like to talk about that but damn it amazes me anyone even acts like they trust us. View Quote These promises can be found right next to the misfiled treaty that proves that Alaska was never properly sold and still actually belongs to Russia already, comrade. |
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Quoted: These promises can be found right next to the misfiled treaty that proves that Alaska was never properly sold and still actually belongs to Russia already, comrade. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I was reading more about the assurances we gave about not one foot east etc etc... Very interesting we have been breaking promises for a long time in the US....we don't like to talk about that but damn it amazes me anyone even acts like they trust us. These promises can be found right next to the misfiled treaty that proves that Alaska was never properly sold and still actually belongs to Russia already, comrade. LOL. You're saying we never offered Russia ANY assurance we wouldn't push east?!??! Really??? We never lied to the Indians either lol |
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Quoted: We are stuck in Ukraine. But since I'm a citizen I take upon myself the body politic and identify as the whole. I am an American America is stuck in Ukraine I am stuck in Ukraine. No drama just a state of being. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ahhh thank you. The point I was more broadly making was that instead of taking care of Americans--via a social program they paid into in exchange for an expectation of a return (regardless of that lie), we could propose a new program or other mechanism to address a gap in savings but we are going to continue to focus on fucking with other countries wars.....to fight an enemy that has no capacity to invade or harm us with its military short of the use of nuclear weapons that I am repeatedly told either don't work or they won't use. It's a difference of opinion on how to out Americans first I think. Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. You are stuck in Ukraine!? Oh... You just said that for the drama... We are stuck in Ukraine. But since I'm a citizen I take upon myself the body politic and identify as the whole. I am an American America is stuck in Ukraine I am stuck in Ukraine. No drama just a state of being. Oh drama.. |
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Quoted: They made an agreement to keep NATO off Russian borders and broke it. Everything will change in an instant when they have to reinstate the Draft because NO ONE, especially the woke generation, wants to go fight and die for Ukraine. They will have to press gang them off the streets but that won’t end well View Quote That's kind of a dumb move on Russia's part. If they took Ukraine they'd have borders with even more NATO nations. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ahhh thank you. The point I was more broadly making was that instead of taking care of Americans--via a social program they paid into in exchange for an expectation of a return (regardless of that lie), we could propose a new program or other mechanism to address a gap in savings but we are going to continue to focus on fucking with other countries wars.....to fight an enemy that has no capacity to invade or harm us with its military short of the use of nuclear weapons that I am repeatedly told either don't work or they won't use. It's a difference of opinion on how to out Americans first I think. Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. You are stuck in Ukraine!? Oh... You just said that for the drama... We are stuck in Ukraine. But since I'm a citizen I take upon myself the body politic and identify as the whole. I am an American America is stuck in Ukraine I am stuck in Ukraine. No drama just a state of being. Oh drama.. No Veteran tag? |
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Quoted: LOL. You're saying we never offered Russia ANY assurance we wouldn't push east?!??! Really??? We never lied to the Indians either lol View Quote I'm saying the only thing remotely close to what you're describing was a talking point during negotiations that was not even agreed to and never made it into any treaty that Russia, the USA, or any of the former SSRs agreed to. What does this assurance even look like? "Won't push east." What does that even mean? Is the official agreement worded that loosely? That sounds less like an assurance and more like a drunken Russian propagandists talking point. Probably because that's exactly what it is. |
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Quoted: That's kind of a dumb move on Russia's part. If they took Ukraine they'd have borders with even more NATO nations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They made an agreement to keep NATO off Russian borders and broke it. Everything will change in an instant when they have to reinstate the Draft because NO ONE, especially the woke generation, wants to go fight and die for Ukraine. They will have to press gang them off the streets but that won’t end well That's kind of a dumb move on Russia's part. If they took Ukraine they'd have borders with even more NATO nations. Russians must take Ukraine to prevent that evil NATO from moving east comrade! Therefore we must move west so we can scream NATO is too close to us! Perfect Ruskie logic! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ahhh thank you. The point I was more broadly making was that instead of taking care of Americans--via a social program they paid into in exchange for an expectation of a return (regardless of that lie), we could propose a new program or other mechanism to address a gap in savings but we are going to continue to focus on fucking with other countries wars.....to fight an enemy that has no capacity to invade or harm us with its military short of the use of nuclear weapons that I am repeatedly told either don't work or they won't use. It's a difference of opinion on how to out Americans first I think. Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. You are stuck in Ukraine!? Oh... You just said that for the drama... We are stuck in Ukraine. But since I'm a citizen I take upon myself the body politic and identify as the whole. I am an American America is stuck in Ukraine I am stuck in Ukraine. No drama just a state of being. Oh drama.. No Veteran tag? So.. You've been to Ukraine then? I mean you are telling us you are stuck there? Am I supposed to thank you? |
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Quoted: I'm saying the only thing remotely close to what you're describing was a talking point during negotiations that was not even agreed to and never made it into any treaty that Russia, the USA, or any of the former SSRs agreed to. What does this assurance even look like? "Won't push east." What does that even mean? Is the official agreement worded that loosely? That sounds less like an assurance and more like a drunken Russian propagandists talking point. Probably because that's exactly what it is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: LOL. You're saying we never offered Russia ANY assurance we wouldn't push east?!??! Really??? We never lied to the Indians either lol I'm saying the only thing remotely close to what you're describing was a talking point during negotiations that was not even agreed to and never made it into any treaty that Russia, the USA, or any of the former SSRs agreed to. What does this assurance even look like? "Won't push east." What does that even mean? Is the official agreement worded that loosely? That sounds less like an assurance and more like a drunken Russian propagandists talking point. Probably because that's exactly what it is. Oh jeez I thought we were above that level of bullshit. I respected your love of Ukraine and recognize you think you our involvement is justified. Good luck in the coming war Andy, you and your side are in charge and debating with someone on the internet who has no power to impact your desired endstate is beneath you. Reap the whirlwind buddy. |
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Quoted: So.. You've been to Ukraine then? I mean you are telling us you are stuck there? Am I supposed to thank you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ahhh thank you. The point I was more broadly making was that instead of taking care of Americans--via a social program they paid into in exchange for an expectation of a return (regardless of that lie), we could propose a new program or other mechanism to address a gap in savings but we are going to continue to focus on fucking with other countries wars.....to fight an enemy that has no capacity to invade or harm us with its military short of the use of nuclear weapons that I am repeatedly told either don't work or they won't use. It's a difference of opinion on how to out Americans first I think. Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. You are stuck in Ukraine!? Oh... You just said that for the drama... We are stuck in Ukraine. But since I'm a citizen I take upon myself the body politic and identify as the whole. I am an American America is stuck in Ukraine I am stuck in Ukraine. No drama just a state of being. Oh drama.. No Veteran tag? So.. You've been to Ukraine then? I mean you are telling us you are stuck there? Am I supposed to thank you? Not at all. And I explained what my comment meant. Just realized we can't communicate on the same level about citizenship. Good luck to you in the coming war. |
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Quoted: Oh jeez I thought we were above that level of bullshit. I respected your love of Ukraine and recognize you think you our involvement is justified. Good luck in the coming war Andy, you and your side are in charge and debating with someone on the internet who has no power to impact your desired endstate is beneath you. Reap the whirlwind buddy. View Quote lol, I'm no more in charge than you are. I'm interested in getting to the truth. What does this "Assurance" you speak of look like? Did we break it by allowing the Baltic countries to join NATO? What gave the USA the right to make this assurance on behalf of all other NATO members? Did we discuss it with them first? Its been decades man. Surely this is all well-documented history full of primary source citations and endless rigorous commentary, right? It must be, since we've seemingly openly broken this "assurance" repeatedly for decades. My god man, how did I miss the international debacle of this century? Please, open my eyes. |
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Quoted: Not at all. And I explained what my comment meant. Just realized we can't communicate on the same level about citizenship. Good luck to you in the coming war. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ahhh thank you. The point I was more broadly making was that instead of taking care of Americans--via a social program they paid into in exchange for an expectation of a return (regardless of that lie), we could propose a new program or other mechanism to address a gap in savings but we are going to continue to focus on fucking with other countries wars.....to fight an enemy that has no capacity to invade or harm us with its military short of the use of nuclear weapons that I am repeatedly told either don't work or they won't use. It's a difference of opinion on how to out Americans first I think. Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. You know how Ukebros tell me I'm stuck in Ukraine cause I promised to protect then in exchange for them surrendering nukes? I would argue since I have maxed out social security contributions for 20 years you better pay my ass back. I agree it isn't the federal government role to get involved in retirement. I also think it isn't our governments job to do regime change or fuck with other countries democratically elected governments when we don't like then. But here we are. You are stuck in Ukraine!? Oh... You just said that for the drama... We are stuck in Ukraine. But since I'm a citizen I take upon myself the body politic and identify as the whole. I am an American America is stuck in Ukraine I am stuck in Ukraine. No drama just a state of being. Oh drama.. No Veteran tag? So.. You've been to Ukraine then? I mean you are telling us you are stuck there? Am I supposed to thank you? Not at all. And I explained what my comment meant. Just realized we can't communicate on the same level about citizenship. Good luck to you in the coming war. You should use your body politic to stop it! Oh that's right.. You are along for the ride just as I am. |
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Quoted: That “assurance” is null and void when Russia begins to invade others. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: LOL. You're saying we never offered Russia ANY assurance we wouldn't push east?!??! Really??? We never lied to the Indians either lol That “assurance” is null and void when Russia begins to invade others. Since the context of the assurance was in the 90's I'm not sure your argument holds up..... You may want to go back to the Club house to rework your Ukebro talking points, I think you'll do better with the Assurances never happened. Cause we ALWAYS tell the truth in the United States. |
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Quoted: Since the context of the assurance was in the 90's I'm not sure your argument holds up..... You may want to go back to the Club house to rework your Ukebro talking points, I think you'll do better with the Assurances never happened. Cause we ALWAYS tell the truth in the United States. View Quote Still waiting to see what the text of the Pinky Swear Protocol says. I mean... did German reunification break it right off the bat since West Germany was a NATO member? |
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Quoted: 50 year evolution of the conservative movement in one short video clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=747X0M7Keyw View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. 50 year evolution of the conservative movement in one short video clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=747X0M7Keyw |
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Quoted: I was reading more about the assurances we gave about not one foot east etc etc... Very interesting we have been breaking promises for a long time in the US....we don't like to talk about that but damn it amazes me anyone even acts like they trust us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They made an agreement to keep NATO off Russian borders and broke it. Everything will change in an instant when they have to reinstate the Draft because NO ONE, especially the woke generation, wants to go fight and die for Ukraine. They will have to press gang them off the streets but that won’t end well I was reading more about the assurances we gave about not one foot east etc etc... Very interesting we have been breaking promises for a long time in the US....we don't like to talk about that but damn it amazes me anyone even acts like they trust us. Did NATO Promise Not to Enlarge? Gorbachev Says “No” - November 6, 2014 |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They made an agreement to keep NATO off Russian borders and broke it. Everything will change in an instant when they have to reinstate the Draft because NO ONE, especially the woke generation, wants to go fight and die for Ukraine. They will have to press gang them off the streets but that won’t end well I was reading more about the assurances we gave about not one foot east etc etc... Very interesting we have been breaking promises for a long time in the US....we don't like to talk about that but damn it amazes me anyone even acts like they trust us. Did NATO Promise Not to Enlarge? Gorbachev Says “No” - November 6, 2014 https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZGFkNGI3NmNkNzdiYzBmOTc4NDE2MDY2ZmY2MjMxN2EzZTNkODgxNyZjdD1n/CT9IKiIl3Dtf2XXSUj/giphy.gif Other meme was way better man. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not the job of FedGov. National defense is. 50 year evolution of the conservative movement in one short video clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=747X0M7Keyw That is good! and too true! |
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"A war at sea. A war with no battles, no monuments... only casualties."
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There is fundamental issue with the "promise" to not move NATO east, and why I'm terribly suspicious that anybody who pushes it, is actually a Russian psyop account / paid propagandist.
It denies European nations any form of agency. Till the Russian invasion of Ukraine we spent decades trying to herd the cats of eruope. They constantly ignored us when it came to matters of trade, cutting their defense budget etc. They flouted sanctions against the Irianians hard core, and only now are realizing "whoops we shouldn't have done that" Because the Iranians want to fuck over Europe too. None of the past 30 years indicates Europe is a freaking puppet of the US. Now onto "NATO started it bullshit" German reuinfiocation happened in 1990, and of course Germany kept its NATO membership. What was the next country added to NATO? The czech republic, hungary and poland joined in 1999. Now what happened in between 1990 and 1999? 1991 Russia overthrows the newly democratically elected government of Georgia to install a puppet, and then supports the puppet in the following civil war. Only to turn around and stab its puppet in the back by breaking away parts of Georgia as "autonomous zones" Also 1991 Russia throws in with pro Russian rebels to overthrow the government of Moldova (which even neutrality as a central point of their constitution) but settles for breaking off a chunk of Moldova which it occupies to this day. 1992 -1999 Russia supports its puppet in Tajikstan kicking off a civil war there and sparking the Chechnya and Dagestani conflicts. Russia meddling in sovereign countries it believes are "rightly its territory" made the eastern europeans nervous and wanting to join NATO... why the hell wouldn't it? |
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Quoted: Ok I hope Russia starts to fly fully armed, tactical nuclear bombers just outside our protected space every day for the next month We don’t belong there. This war is just a big lie View Quote We belong wherever we want to be. Protecting the open seas is our business. Too bad you can't deal with reality. You are right though, every reason Putin gave justifying invading a sovereign country was a lie. He even lied to his own nation and troops. |
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Quoted: LOL. You're saying we never offered Russia ANY assurance we wouldn't push east?!??! Really??? We never lied to the Indians either lol View Quote Our assurance of not pushing east was not a Government promise. It was one diplomat making an unauthorized position. Did Putin pledge not to push west? Nope. |
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