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Link Posted: 9/11/2022 3:40:25 PM EST
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Looks like Russia is done fucking around and they are taking out the electric grid,if the reports are true. Sorry no link yet.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 3:49:03 PM EST
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Power is already back up.  They failed at that like everything else in this war lol.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 3:50:25 PM EST
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lmao goddamn they can't do ANYTHING right
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 3:52:40 PM EST
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oh ya, they're going to roll out their real army any day now.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 3:54:54 PM EST
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I hope the rest of the world looks at Russia in a totally different way after this shit show. Next bluster about their army should elicit a less fearful response
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 3:57:24 PM EST
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oh ya, they're going to roll out their real army any day now.
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Looks like Russia is done fucking around and they are taking out the electric grid,if the reports are true. Sorry no link yet.
oh ya, they're going to roll out their real army any day now.
Worse than that.  Wait until the Russians decide to unleash these soldiers.  The tide will turn...

"A scientist discovers the bodies of three frozen genetically modified Russians..."  Ice Soldiers

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Link Posted: 9/11/2022 4:04:05 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/11/2022 4:15:52 PM EST
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I hope the rest of the world looks at Russia in a totally different way after this shit show. Next bluster about their army should elicit a less fearful response
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When some thug comes up to you on the street I sure hope you take them seriously. Putin is a scumbag thug but you never, ever let your guard down. You just don't know what that Russian retard will do.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 4:18:27 PM EST
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When people state they have lost everything they have gained since April, they are referring to total area, not specific locations.
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First off, that is complete bullshit:  They are still firmly in control of Mariupol, which they captured in mid-May.  So no, they haven't lost "everything they gained since April".  Maybe in the Kharkov area, but nowhere else.

Plus, if Russia decides to get "froggy with nukes" what makes you so certain Europe will decide to get involved at that point?  Especially since Ukraine isn't a NATO country and no one is actually treaty-bound to help them.

If Ukraine starts invading Russia proper, and Russia responds by frying a few logistics hubs or a division, NATO won't do anything more than issue a sternly-worded letter.  Because as you correctly point out, no one in Europe is eager for nukes in their own cities.

When people state they have lost everything they have gained since April, they are referring to total area, not specific locations.


It's 90% true even when talking about specific locations; you just need an asterisk for Azovstal and parts of Luhansk.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 4:26:21 PM EST
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It's 90% true even when talking about specific locations; you just need an asterisk for Azovstal and parts of Luhansk.
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The Putin apologists will never admit defeat. They backed the wrong horse and are in too deep now.

Luckily GD has a long memory and will continue to mock them for years to come.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 4:39:40 PM EST
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Been saying since this started. They will cause a nuke incident . All those forces will be in the correct places for the winds to shift onto them and be contaminated
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 4:42:12 PM EST
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The Putin apologists will never admit defeat. They backed the wrong horse and are in too deep now.

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Link Posted: 9/11/2022 5:29:13 PM EST
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Winter is coming fast.

Moscau? Not a chance lol.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 5:40:51 PM EST
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Russia could use a couple of nukes on Ukraine and everyone would freak and they would become a pariah nation, but nobody's going to nuke them back- they still have a thousand other nukes.
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Does the collapse of conventional forces raise the risk of Putin going nuclear? Particularly to save himself from internal coup?
You really think inviting Russia to be glassed by multiple nuclear powers is less  likely to get him a bullet in the head?

Once Russia shows it's willingness to go nuclear in order to gain territory, everybody around them will recognize it as a direct and imminent threat.


Russia could use a couple of nukes on Ukraine and everyone would freak and they would become a pariah nation, but nobody's going to nuke them back- they still have a thousand other nukes.
Having and using aren't the same threat level. Once they start lobbing them, that's the Rubicon crossed, and they can't cross back. Everybody who's been putting up with their shit now has to deal with the hard proof that, should Russia decide to go after them, nukes will be used. Those thousand nukes are no longer a passive deterrent, they're an active threat.


Link Posted: 9/11/2022 7:54:08 PM EST
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Having and using aren't the same threat level. Once they start lobbing them, that's the Rubicon crossed, and they can't cross back. Everybody who's been putting up with their shit now has to deal with the hard proof that, should Russia decide to go after them, nukes will be used. Those thousand nukes are no longer a passive deterrent, they're an active threat.


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I think the general consensus is that he'll use them if Russia proper is threatened.  That's been doctrine for 50 years.

What do we do about it?  Everything is an escalation that causes more nuking.   We might need to be careful what we wish for as far as Russia's demise.  Unless it's an inside job by senior military leadership it's likely to be ugly.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 9:33:33 PM EST
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CarmelBytheSea: Some of you guys need to knock South Korean women up https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/EAEB55BB-4CD4-4467-8379-041A17404EDE_jpe-2522025.JPG
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Oh sure when you say it is cheeky fun, but let a Japanese officer say it and now it's a crime against humanity.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 9:36:00 PM EST
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Oh sure when you say it is cheeky fun, but let a Japanese officer say it and now it's a crime against humanity.
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I think South Koreans were doing fine back then - 5 kids on average but these days not even 1 kid on average.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 9:36:35 PM EST
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Having and using aren't the same threat level. Once they start lobbing them, that's the Rubicon crossed, and they can't cross back. Everybody who's been putting up with their shit now has to deal with the hard proof that, should Russia decide to go after them, nukes will be used. Those thousand nukes are no longer a passive deterrent, they're an active threat.


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Then Poland joins the fray?
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 9:38:05 PM EST
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oh ya, they're going to roll out their real army any day now.
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Looks like Russia is done fucking around and they are taking out the electric grid,if the reports are true. Sorry no link yet.
oh ya, they're going to roll out their real army any day now.



Don't they have some rebels and mercenary's helping them out now?
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 9:45:51 PM EST
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Two. (2)

Kick in the front door, and the Whole rotten thing comes crashing down .   Ironically, he would have won too, if not for those pesky Yanks and Brits.  

- Even more Ironically, Putin thought exactly the same thing as Hitler, and now we are Again, supplying Hitlers Putin’s enemy, with everything they need to defeat the invaders.  

I truly wish you guys could appreciate Irony.  And history.
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Highly doubtful. Russia is nothing more than a paper tiger. They act all big and bad but in reality you punch them in the nose and they crumble. As far as supply lines..Ask Russia about that. They know all about shitty logistics and stretched supply lines.



there was once another guy who thought that too.....


Two. (2)

Kick in the front door, and the Whole rotten thing comes crashing down .   Ironically, he would have won too, if not for those pesky Yanks and Brits.  

- Even more Ironically, Putin thought exactly the same thing as Hitler, and now we are Again, supplying Hitlers Putin’s enemy, with everything they need to defeat the invaders.  

I truly wish you guys could appreciate Irony.  And history.


I’ve been watching in disbelief since day one.

I still can’t wrap my mind around how stupid Russian leadership is.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 9:55:33 PM EST
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I think South Koreans were doing fine back then - 5 kids on average but these days not even 1 kid on average.
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Map cultural attitudes towards female autonomy in, say, 1948, to now.  Give females self-autonomy and a Western lifestyle, and they turn out not wanting to have very many kids.  Religious outliers excepted.  And lower economic classes who get paid to have kids.

Link Posted: 9/11/2022 9:59:37 PM EST
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I’ve been watching in disbelief since day one.

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Indeed.  I think if Putin had concentrated his forces in the south, and made their focus opening the Dnieper to Crimea, they'd be doing a lot better (and not getting near as much heat from the rest of the World.)

Plus not attacking when the Rasputitsa was going to start, the dumb fuck.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 10:00:02 PM EST
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I hope so, that's really dangerous to civilian populations.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 10:04:46 PM EST
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I bet they would love a 20 year long contract or two now.
Yep. A lot of their problems are their own doing.  So I don’t really feel bad for their lack of planning.
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Israel is pulling huge benefits in from Leviathan.

Shipping has to Jordan and Egypt makes friendly neighbors

Other countries that were exporting there can redirect to Europe.

From my laymen’s understanding Germany doesn’t want to commit to the 20 year long term contracts and that’s aggravated Canada, Qatar and US sellers. Guessing due to their climate change mentality?


I bet they would love a 20 year long contract or two now.
Yep. A lot of their problems are their own doing.  So I don’t really feel bad for their lack of planning.

Link Posted: 9/11/2022 10:06:10 PM EST
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Guess their 100k worth of norks have not arrived in theater?

Lol
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 10:15:00 PM EST
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I’ve been watching in disbelief since day one.

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They defeated Germany in the 1940s because they were bankrolled by fellow socialists and it went to their head that Russia stronk. In many cases they won battles because the Germans literally killed so many Soviets they ran out of ammo and got overrun. When your best tactic is "they run out of ammo before we ran out of conscripts" and then you go from 195 million people to 147 million with an older average age those tactics no longer match your order of battle realities.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 10:21:29 PM EST
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the question is, several parts to this.. russia has nukes.  i assume they have tactical nukes. say they use them on kiev to decapitate ukraine (or someplace else). what does the world do? do the chinese and others continue to support roosha? or when pootin decides to use nukes, thats the last straw and his 'generals' wrap him up in a straight jacket and put him in a padded room and sue for peace?
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 10:30:46 PM EST
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They defeated Germany in the 1940s because they were bankrolled by fellow socialists and it went to their head that Russia stronk. In many cases they won battles because the Germans literally killed so many Soviets they ran out of ammo and got overrun. When your best tactic is "they run out of ammo before we ran out of conscripts" and then you go from 195 million people to 147 million with an older average age those tactics no longer match your order of battle realities.
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Yeah, without Western support... Russia would have been New Germany.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 10:33:13 PM EST
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An excellent question.  Some say Art 5 gets invoked, NATO gets involved.  Me?  I'm not sure.  Certainly the genie gets let out of the bottle at that point.  Maybe it results in the Chinese using them for local military purposes; maybe it results in a decapitation strike against whichever bunker Putin is sitting in?  Who can say?


do the chinese and others continue to support roosha? or when pootin decides to use nukes, thats the last straw and his 'generals' wrap him up in a straight jacket and put him in a padded room and sue for peace?
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If the last were a possibility, it would already have happened, IMHO.  This looks to be disastrous for the oligarch class that supported Putin's rise.  If Putin could have "tragically died from his long-standing terminal illness", it would have happened by now.  

What Putin's Golden Bridge will take the form of, is another interesting question.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 10:36:05 PM EST
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the question is, several parts to this.. russia has nukes.  i assume they have tactical nukes. say they use them on kiev to decapitate ukraine (or someplace else). what does the world do? do the chinese and others continue to support roosha? or when pootin decides to use nukes, thats the last straw and his 'generals' wrap him up in a straight jacket and put him in a padded room and sue for peace?
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Nobody knows. But using nukes is essentially the gunman killing his hostage. After that, all means of deterrence is theoretically gone after that. So at that point you have to think Russia has gone from being rational.... to a guy trying to suicide by having the whole world go up against them.
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Guess their 100k worth of norks have not arrived in theater?

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If Russia can bring their friends, I suppose Ukraine can too.  Game on!
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To put that into context most of the Wehrmacht was horse drawn and Germany wasn't on an economic war footing until they accepted reality late in the war. Before that Russia lost a war to Japan. Then post WW2 they lost the Sino-Soviet "conflict" to China. Technically speaking they "won" a war with Finnland by taking territory but in reality lost an appalling number of troops winning enough ground to bury them on.
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They defeated Germany in the 1940s because they were bankrolled by fellow socialists and it went to their head that Russia stronk. In many cases they won battles because the Germans literally killed so many Soviets they ran out of ammo and got overrun. When your best tactic is "they run out of ammo before we ran out of conscripts" and then you go from 195 million people to 147 million with an older average age those tactics no longer match your order of battle realities.
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At the same time Germany is trying to fight a two front war.

Russia is defiantly being humiliated here.


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Nobody knows, but article 5 had been invoked for less.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 10:51:54 PM EST
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Nobody is launching nukes. And Ukraine is going to win. You keep on backing the wrong horse though. The real fascists are the Russians. It is pretty disgusting to see people rooting for them.
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Are you willing to bet your life -- and your children's lives -- on that?  I'm not.

And no, Ukraine winning is not a done deal yet -- any more than it was a done deal in early March when Russia retreated from Kiev.  The Russians regrouped and took much of the Donbas -- which, if you consult your maps, they still firmly hold as of today.

And no, I'm not rooting for Russia.  In fact, I'd like this whole war to end before it gets out of control.  Which it will if people keep discounting the idea that Russia can be pushed too far.
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It's 90% true even when talking about specific locations; you just need an asterisk for Azovstal and parts of Luhansk.
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OMG that map is the basis for that claim?

So, to get this straight, Russia has lost 90% of what they have taken since April -- but they still control roughly 90% of what they have taken since February?  Is that right?  And this is what people consider to be a total collapse along the front?
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At the same time Germany is trying to fight a two front war.

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I think history is going to view their biggest mistake as not making a major offensive until after Ukraine received so much Western support. They incompetently half assed away a ton of units and wasted years in the Donbass. If they had been smart they would have launched a major offensive just as the Biden administration was taking office.
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Winter is coming fast.

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WhY yOu LoVe PuTiN bRo?

Dude haven't you heard, the Russian Army is shit.  Why 50K Ukrainian troops could run the 750 km north to Moscow and depose Putin by the end of the month, and the Russians couldn't do a thing to stop them.
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WhY yOu LoVe PuTiN bRo?

Dude haven't you heard, the Russian Army is shit.  Why 50K Ukrainian troops could run the 750 km north to Moscow and depose Putin by the end of the month, and the Russians couldn't do a thing to stop them.
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Take deep breaths, it'll be ok.
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WhY yOu LoVe PuTiN bRo?

Dude haven't you heard, the Russian Army is shit.  Why 50K Ukrainian troops could run the 750 km north to Moscow and depose Putin by the end of the month, and the Russians couldn't do a thing to stop them.
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Winter is coming fast.

Moscau? Not a chance lol.
WhY yOu LoVe PuTiN bRo?

Dude haven't you heard, the Russian Army is shit.  Why 50K Ukrainian troops could run the 750 km north to Moscow and depose Putin by the end of the month, and the Russians couldn't do a thing to stop them.



Calm down bro, sometimes it's best to just admit you're wrong and shut up.
Almost nobody predicted this one right.

Yes the Russian army is shit. How is this even up for debate at this point.
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OMG that map is the basis for that claim?

So, to get this straight, Russia has lost 90% of what they have taken since April -- but they still control roughly 90% of what they have taken since February?  Is that right?  And this is what people consider to be a total collapse along the front?
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It's 90% true even when talking about specific locations; you just need an asterisk for Azovstal and parts of Luhansk.
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OMG that map is the basis for that claim?

So, to get this straight, Russia has lost 90% of what they have taken since April -- but they still control roughly 90% of what they have taken since February?  Is that right?  And this is what people consider to be a total collapse along the front?





Why are you discounting the fact that Ukraine reclaimed in 5 days what it took Russia 5 months to take?

Yes, the front is collapsing. For the love of God, do some research on what's happening right now before you make even more of a fool of yourself.
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Are you willing to bet your life -- and your children's lives -- on that?  I'm not.

And no, Ukraine winning is not a done deal yet -- any more than it was a done deal in early March when Russia retreated from Kiev.  The Russians regrouped and took much of the Donbas -- which, if you consult your maps, they still firmly hold as of today.

And no, I'm not rooting for Russia.  In fact, I'd like this whole war to end before it gets out of control.  Which it will if people keep discounting the idea that Russia can be pushed too far.
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Nobody is launching nukes. And Ukraine is going to win. You keep on backing the wrong horse though. The real fascists are the Russians. It is pretty disgusting to see people rooting for them.
Are you willing to bet your life -- and your children's lives -- on that?  I'm not.

And no, Ukraine winning is not a done deal yet -- any more than it was a done deal in early March when Russia retreated from Kiev.  The Russians regrouped and took much of the Donbas -- which, if you consult your maps, they still firmly hold as of today.

And no, I'm not rooting for Russia.  In fact, I'd like this whole war to end before it gets out of control.  Which it will if people keep discounting the idea that Russia can be pushed too far.



So the alternative is to let Putin have we wants? Fuck that and fuck anyone who advocates for it.

Self defense is always right.
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GD: Doubts MSM for the last decade.  And rightly.

GD '22: Believe the MSM now.
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1st corrupt. 2nd most corrupt. WTF does that have to do with anything? At which point did this enter international discussion?
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Seeing Russians routed is heartwarming as the most corrupt country of Europe's behavior towards civilians makes it hard to not enjoy their suffering

While Ukraine maybe the 2nd most corrupt that does not lessen the tragedy of the majority civilian population suffering needlessly

My concern is with the nuke card to play will Ukraine be one victory away from saying "One more such success will be our ruin?"

None of us has a crystal ball to foresee the success or tragedy that is about to unfold so,

For now we can all just smile at the panic that has so deservingly befallen the orcs and the celebration felt by the deserving victors in this counter offense

1st corrupt. 2nd most corrupt. WTF does that have to do with anything? At which point did this enter international discussion?
Couple of months before the actual invasion, when Russia was moving troops and the great brains were all yodeling, "they wouldn't dare! Saber rattling! Useless posturing!"


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Lmao you think the MSM is the only source?
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No one "threw" us out, in the sense that it wasn't the US military that was overrun and slaughtered in 1975.

But we got "thrown" out in the sense that we could not fully defeat the North Vietnamese with our tactics and strategy so we declared "Peace with Honor" to assuage our egos and left.

Then after abandoning them to their fates the South Vietnamese government, upon which we had lavished billions of dollars in weapons, training, and economic aid, got "thrown" out.

Continuing to pretend some 50 years later that somehow the Viet Nam War was not a humiliating defeat of US power is a really bad look.
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Not quite how it went, but you do you.
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Indeed.  I think if Putin had concentrated his forces in the south, and made their focus opening the Dnieper to Crimea, they'd be doing a lot better (and not getting near as much heat from the rest of the World.)

Plus not attacking when the Rasputitsa was going to start going strong, the dumb fuck.
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I’ve been watching in disbelief since day one.

I still can’t wrap my mind around how stupid Russian leadership is.


Indeed.  I think if Putin had concentrated his forces in the south, and made their focus opening the Dnieper to Crimea, they'd be doing a lot better (and not getting near as much heat from the rest of the World.)

Plus not attacking when the Rasputitsa was going to start going strong, the dumb fuck.

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WhY yOu LoVe PuTiN bRo?

Dude haven't you heard, the Russian Army is shit.  Why 50K Ukrainian troops could run the 750 km north to Moscow and depose Putin by the end of the month, and the Russians couldn't do a thing to stop them.
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