I don't know.  We do have some precedent with, for example, marijuana.  The Feds need the help from locals because there just aren't a lot of them and are too spread out.  New Hampshire, along with many other states, has medical marijuana and a few have legalized it recreationally despite the fact that it is still a Schedule I drug at the federal level.  They're not raiding medical marijuana dispensaries.  


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Yep

Anyone who pretends otherwise is lying.

^^That too.

I recently had a lengthy argument about an unarmed guy who got killed by local PD for putting a hand behind his back.  HERE
Cops showed up outside his door because someone reported seeing him with a rifle (rifles are legal in the area).

There were quite a few members who claimed it was a good shot and that degree of paranoia is totally justified (as well as veterans saying "we weren't allowed to kill hajis in the sandbox unless we saw a weapon AND it was pointed our way).

If you add gun confiscation to the scenario, I think the gov't lovers would immediately label anyone suspected of bending the rules a criminal, and cheer harder for the cops to kill anyone who moves their hand an extra inch.

then you can feel smug that you stayed home and pouted instead of voting for Trump

Why not come up with a more realistic scenario like maybe aliens and cookbooks

CONNECTICUT
Dan kept working through his list, comparing names and serial numbers. He really wished there was a better way to do this, he really wished that there was a national database, but he knew that was a pipe dream, for now at least. He was comparing the list of newly registered rifles against the 4473 forms kept at Miller’s Firearms in Danbury, Connecticut. Governor Malloy signed Public Act (PA) 13-220, which amended PA 13-3, in April of 2013 and this had created a stir among the citizens of Connecticut as well as some portions of the nation. All the hue and cry for such a minor change, didn’t people realize that Connecticut has had a registration requirement for all long guns for over a decade. Dan wished people would understand that this was to protect the citizenry and more specifically children. PA 13-220 was even named, “AN ACT CONCERNING REVISIONS TO THE GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND CHILDREN’S SAFETY ACT.”

Dan was the newest member of the Connecticut State Police Statewide Firearms Trafficking Task Force. He had previously worked in the State Police Special Licensing and Firearms Unit after transferring out of the uniformed section of the State Police after 16 years on the road as a Trooper. The FTTF had grown after PA 13-220 was signed. The legislature appropriated more than 150 new positions, with over half of those being sworn officers and the rest being records and data analysts.

Dan was assigned to a new sub-unit that was mainly tasked with compliance checks on gun stores, comparing store records against the state’s database of registered firearms. If there was a discrepancy, his unit would then apply for a search warrant to determine the disposition of the firearms in question. Often this would be a fruitless endeavor as they were told by many of the people on the 4473 that the firearm had been sold and there was no written record of the private sale or that they sent it out of state. However, most times after a diligent search, because they always searched, that the owner never ‘sold’ the firearm and willfully failed to register it. In those cases the owner would be arrested, charged with a felony, and face years of incarceration and hefty fines. They would also find ‘unregistered’ magazines which would be added to the charges.

As the deadline closed for registration there were around 33,000 residents who had declared a firearm and close to 20,000 that had declared magazines, many of the same people on both lists. Dan knew that based on sales records that these numbers basically meant there was large scale non-compliance. Estimates were that there were well over 200,000 ‘assault weapons’ in the state before PA 13-220 was signed. Dan understood this to be job security as the word from higher ups were that this ‘civil’ disobedience would not stand and that enforcement would be strict. He envisioned that the unit would end up expanding even more with this zero tolerance stance.

Dan had even heard from a friend in the communications office that there was an initiative to implement a toll-free tip line as well as an anonymous website to provide information on people suspected being in violation of the new laws. There was still work to be done to determine the amount of the rewards to be given and obtain the legislative funding for that program, but Dan knew that this would generate more useful leads for his unit than comparing 4473s. He had even suggested some members of the unit gain membership into local shooting ranges and clubs to obtain actionable intelligence.

The lawyers were still debating the legalities of conducting ‘compliance checks’ on those people with permits, the question being not whether they could do it but rather how to do it. Should they push for unannounced checks in the law itself or find a judge to sign off on search warrants based on legal finessing of probable cause.

Dan finished up his compliance check at Miller’s and headed back to the office to assemble his team. He had fifteen discrepancies that he had to get search warrants for. Today was a good day…

If the 2nd gets repealed and guns are banned, then it's machineguns and suppressors for everyone.  They can only hang you once.

UN troops in the USA would probably be considered an invading force.  They would not last long.

You can do what you want - but my objective is to make some other poor bastard die for his ideals so that I don't end up dying for mine.





"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.  - George S. Patton"
 
 

That is exactly what it will look like.

 

...and the mouthbreathers here will cheer it on.

I suspect that UN Troops in the US would begin drawing fire as soon as they became visible to the populace.

Some of you people have way too much time on your hands.

And like Lana would say, "If your aunt had balls, she would be your uncle".

The self sufficient community would be tough; you would have everyone wanting to either be the leader or be in charge of security. once everyone is done arguing and those positions were filled then everyone would want to be part of the security details.

Nobody would want to just be one of the workers...that would kind of suck.

Me personally...if I was in that situation, I would probably either be the leader or the head of security, if those positions were filled I would just be part of the security detail.

Don't forget collateral damage on US soil will fuck things up quick. A car accident on the expressway in Chicago fucks up everybody's day, imagine if a bridge fell or a section of highway was blown up. The economy would suffer real fast real bad. Do you think a Bradley van cut loose in an American subdivision without serious consequences if it even were allowed to?

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I'd gladly be a farmer. That doesn't mean I can't reload by night or be an apprentice armorer.

 

I'm not thinking medival fortress. I'm thinking gated community in some rural area with defensible geographic features, that maintains sufficient undeveloped arable land to feed the population if need be, it's own water supply, and individuals maintain their own stored food, generators, etc. There'd be no need to purposefully cut yourself off from the rest of the country, and it could function like any other town except in the event peaceful civil disobedience results in blockade/embargo being imposed upon it. There would be no 'leader' other than the elected mayor & town council members, and no 'security force' other than the militia that all able bodied men would belong to. If nothing goes tits up everyone just lives and works like they always do.

Call me naive but I really think several state governments would push back.

The big question mark is what does the federal government do back?

Come get em

 

Warsaw Ghetto.

French Resistance.

Polish Resistance.

Finland vs Soviets.

Afghans vs Soviets 1979-89

Viet Cong.

American Revolution.

Leonidas.  The 300.

How many more would you like?

Yeah, that dude's a marxist.  Why would it surprise you that he wants guns banned?

Book title and author or plagiarism.  And COC violation.

And don't forget the clothes, gear and tactics criticism.

Use them.

You have nothing to worry about.......the internet if full of tough guys ready to "pop pmags".

You are absolutely correct sir.

 

Or you could do a five second google search and see that it looks like he probably wrote it.

lol to the people who think they will get in a gun battle with 14 federal agents when their wife is inside doing laundry and their kids are watching spongebob on the couch five feet away.


these threads are always so cringe worthy, and frankly to any liberal they make us look delusional.

Why the fuck does anyone think (In their wildest dreams) that Trump is some sort've "Firewall"

against this shit if he wins???

That's why I keep asking how people think it's going to work

 

 
I don't - but this isn't a Trump thread and it won't be a Trump thread if people shut the fuck up and discuss the topic at hand.

oh and study the Contra lessons very closely. They won their fight, cast down their communist government.  But they failed to purge the communists from their education systems and media and a generation later their own kids helped vote the socialists back in power. IIRC last year.

Idk, Hell, on any given day I hear mag dumps all over the place from my front porch. From pistols to rifles. I dont think they are practicing for Deeeeee season.

Great. How.



You have now reached an understanding of the first post.

 

400 plus  million firearm    in 100 million Americans hands,,,                   This make up  the largest land Army the world has ever known  100 times over

I wish  them luck   in this endeavor

"We must indeed all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." – Benjamin Franklin

Because it bears repeating...



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You deplete your ammo supply OP.  That is why you stack it deep....because you might have to use it.

the time to figure out where to store them is now. and also to train,i.e. improve your marksmanship, take a couple armorers classes, and learn how to easily clear a jammed weapon.

Oh, maybe... the Battle of Athens Tennessee?

Good luck fighting off 14 federal agents by yourself.





Just because you decide it's "FO TIME" doesn't mean everyone else has, or that you'll have any command structure or fire support. Whoever your opposition is will most certainly have both.





This thread is dedicated to how you organize, not self masturbatory fantasies. Thanks.


 

Demographics say that the US of A is just about over, and amnesty is coming which will seal the deal.

The Battle of Athens Tennessee

It never ceases to amaze me how quickly some people have forgotten that Katrina showed us that cops and military WILL confiscate civilian firearms.

Losing the 2A as we know it isn't a fantasy, it's inevitable. The only question is how long it will take. Anyone not born today will know a DDR style America.

I'll get TDY to run a FEMA camp. I promise that the cattlecars will be up to OSHA levels of cleanliness.

Per the Wiki
"The recovered ballots certified the election of the five GI Non-Partisan League candidates. Among the reforms instituted was a change in the method of payment and a $5,000 salary cap for officials. In the initial momentum of victory, gambling houses in collusion with the Cantrell regime were raided and their operations demolished. Deputies of the prior administration resigned and were replaced.









 
 

 

Sorry - my own blog posting https://notrega.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/connecticut/ and it has been posted here before...