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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:03:29 PM EST
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He seemed to have a numerical threshold that some shootings didn't meet. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:03:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Snopes and their weasel words: The primary problem with the chart was that it was based on a relatively broad definition of "mass shooting" which, while valid in and of itself, should not be confused with the much more narrow definition implicitly at work in many conversations about "mass shootings" that is, incidents in which an attacker with no links to terrorism, criminal gangs, or organized crime goes out into a public area and fatally shoots multiple people. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:04:02 PM EST
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The point they're trying to make is that it's an obvious concern-troll account. If you don't see that, then maybe we need more site staff that aren't blind. In any case, despite not being rampage style shootings, shooters of multiple people are overwhelmingly non-white. The left is taking shooting numbers including those people and dishonestly attributing it to white males. And the white males that ARE actually rampage shooters, overwhelmingly are non-conservatives who are either known to law enforcement or who had their impending actions reported, sometimes multiple times, to agencies - like the FBI - who did NOTHING. You want to whine about people bringing up antifa? We've had 3 antifa shooting incidents in the last year, including one attack on a federal facility and a public mass shooting. There have also been several attempted bombings, several incidents involving brandished weapons, and a few other fed buildings shot at that they're likely responsible for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After every one of these shootings people get on this General discussion section and don't admit to what's really happening they Pander and intellectually masturbate. We have a problem with white male Mass Shooters. Not to mention the opioid epidemic which is killing over 50,000 people a year. But I noticed people on here can talk about the ghetto this and ghetto that. Just look at this thread: We've had people blaming one or any of the following: Antifa, atheists, public education, illegal immigrants, etc. It's a ref;exive blame-game in the desperate hope that the bad guy is one of "them" - them being someone from a group we don't like. Add in a few conspiracy nuts that are claiming the FBI, police, and everyone else is working overtime to cover it all up, and you get your typical Arfcom GD derp thread. In any case, despite not being rampage style shootings, shooters of multiple people are overwhelmingly non-white. The left is taking shooting numbers including those people and dishonestly attributing it to white males. And the white males that ARE actually rampage shooters, overwhelmingly are non-conservatives who are either known to law enforcement or who had their impending actions reported, sometimes multiple times, to agencies - like the FBI - who did NOTHING. You want to whine about people bringing up antifa? We've had 3 antifa shooting incidents in the last year, including one attack on a federal facility and a public mass shooting. There have also been several attempted bombings, several incidents involving brandished weapons, and a few other fed buildings shot at that they're likely responsible for. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:04:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree with him or not, Zhuk makes a lot of good points. Significant difference between domestic violence/drug/crime related shootings that total over four victims, and the premeditated public shoot-em-ups of whoever happens to be out and about that day. That distinction has one upside...it makes the true rage/insanity driven mass shootings even rarer than they appear...if only it was reported that way. Lumping every four victim homicide into the "deranged killer with an semi-auto" category bolsters the ban argument, and diverts attention away from the "we have a serious inner-city crime issue". We're doing a poor job of framing the reality, or, maybe to be more accurate, the progressives/MSM are doing a better job hyping their agenda. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:04:56 PM EST
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It is high noon https://www.cbs7.com/livestream But so far, some dudes lifting weights and pulling ropes to see who is the World's Strongest Man |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:05:48 PM EST
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Another live stream https://www.yourbasin.com/
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:06:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly this! |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:08:03 PM EST
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After every one of these shootings people get on this General discussion section and don't admit to what's really happening they Pander and intellectually masturbate. We have a problem with white male Mass Shooters. Not to mention the opioid epidemic which is killing over 50,000 people a year. But I noticed people on here can talk about the ghetto this and ghetto that.?? Your going to fit in really great here with stupid posts like that. It's quite obvious that you are a LIBERAL SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS TROLL. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:08:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lumping them all in together points out their hypocrisy. Most “mass shootings” based on their definition happen in places with the strictest gun control in the country and yet they still happen. It forces them to admit laws don’t work and it’s not about saving lives. But what should we expect from a group of people who's ideology is to have black people get abortions instead of having babies. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:09:01 PM EST
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So this noon news conference, is it going to reveal any now information or just a line of state and local officials patting themselves and first responders on the back for doing such a great job as seems to have become the norm for these events? 
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:09:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The point they're trying to make is that it's an obvious concern-troll account. If you don't see that, then maybe we need more site staff that aren't blind. /snip |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:09:52 PM EST
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Press conference is being setup https://www.yourbasin.com/
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:11:29 PM EST
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Press conference is being setup https://www.yourbasin.com/ |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:12:00 PM EST
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That DPS officer really doesn't like mic stands.
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:12:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Must have been a short delay. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:12:50 PM EST
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Ain't that the truth? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The point they're trying to make is that it's an obvious concern-troll account. If you don't see that, then maybe we need more site staff that aren't blind. /snip 
Hey, why don't you report it as a concern troll/shareblue account. 
Surely that will get their attention. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:12:50 PM EST
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Thanks, so I guess that means nothing new up to right now.
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:13:17 PM EST
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Nothing other than the body count is now at 8. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks, so I guess that means nothing new up to right now.
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:13:38 PM EST
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That DPS officer really doesn't like mic stands. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:13:42 PM EST
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Yeah I have no idea what is going on there. They had news coverage and switched to the worlds strongest man. I'm completely lost on this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is high noon https://www.cbs7.com/livestream But so far, some dudes lifting weights and pulling ropes to see who is the World's Strongest Man |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:13:50 PM EST
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After every one of these shootings people get on this General discussion section and don't admit to what's really happening they Pander and intellectually masturbate. We have a problem with white male Mass Shooters. Not to mention the opioid epidemic which is killing over 50,000 people a year. But I noticed people on here can talk about the ghetto this and ghetto that.?? How about this, keep criminals in jail or give them death when they commit murder. It would prevent a lot of crime of every kind, since most crime and mass shooters are repeat offenders. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:15:10 PM EST
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"All we know about the shooters identity is that he is white."
Has the media ever done that with any other race other than white? 
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:15:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about all the Black mass shooters or the Hispanic mass shooter daily in every major city in the US. I guess they don't fit your agenda, do they? How about this, keep criminals in jail or give them death when they commit murder. It would prevent a lot of crime of every kind, since most crime and mass shooters are repeat offenders. They are being propagandized(?)...….because MANY multiple murders are committed by non white people. Why are people trying to fight the facts on this one??? 
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:15:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I now need an anvil and a beer keg to carry around the backyard |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:16:29 PM EST
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Another live stream https://www.yourbasin.com/ 
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:16:37 PM EST
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Here is the ONLY bit of information that really matters in this entire "debate" (air quotes intentional, because it's anything BUT a legitimate debate
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While the stats only go through 2017, it's safe to assume that numbers for 2018 and 2019 will be similar. So, a whopping ~400 people PER YEAR are killed by rifles (which includes "assault" weapons/rifles). Sorry, not sorry, to break it to the gun grabbers — but in a country with 320+ million(!) people, 400 is statistically insignificant — i.e. it's a statistical ZERO. Period. So no, we're not banning or confiscating anything based on a statistical zero. I urge anyone else willing to do so, to start pushing back with this exact narrative, and by all means use the above graphic since it's 100% public info available directly from the FBI's own website. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:17:33 PM EST
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is there a press conference or not?
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:18:50 PM EST
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The video link says live, but there's nothing on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another live stream https://www.yourbasin.com/ |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:19:31 PM EST
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Here is the ONLY bit of information that really matters in this entire "debate" (air quotes intentional, because it's anything BUT a legitimate debate ):
https://i.imgur.com/IfqV0iSh.png While the stats only go through 2017, it's safe to assume that numbers for 2018 and 2019 will be similar. So, a whopping ~400 people PER YEAR are killed by rifles (which includes "assault" weapons/rifles). Sorry, not sorry, to break it to the gun grabbers — but in a country with 320+ million(!) people, 400 is statistically insignificant — i.e. it's a statistical ZERO. Period. So no, we're not banning or confiscating anything based on a statistical zero. I urge anyone else willing to do so, to start pushing back with this exact narrative, and by all means use the above graphic since it's 100% public info available directly from the FBI's own website. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:19:54 PM EST
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The video link says live, but there's nothing on it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:20:02 PM EST
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https://www.yourbasin.com/odessa-mass-shooting/watch-live-latest-on-the-shootings-in-odessa/
Beat by this |--| much. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:20:15 PM EST
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It works for me. Still setting up. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:20:48 PM EST
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is there a press conference or not? |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:21:09 PM EST
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The video link says live, but there's nothing on it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:22:18 PM EST
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So who are the shooters in that picture? What is their criteria for "mass shooter"? Identify them and the source it came from. You have to do better than to spread some internet meme and present it as fact. [ETA] This is creating a false narrative. The cases we're talking about with one guy going apeshit and randomly executing people ARE young-ish white males aged 20-30 for the most part. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Typically, no, they are not. Here's a photo collage, current as of Aug. 5th. https://i.imgur.com/8o0vL60.jpg [ETA] This is creating a false narrative. The cases we're talking about with one guy going apeshit and randomly executing people ARE young-ish white males aged 20-30 for the most part. The false narrative, propagated by the MSM, is that white males aged 20-30 account for the majority of gun violence in our country. If a ghetto goblin kills four people while shooting into a crowd of 25, with his 33 round Glock, did he not go "apeshit"? Was it "random"? This is likely to happen on any given day in the large inner cities. Yet, not a peep from the MSM. Other than a local news story. You have a large number of one demographic that goes "apeshit" in the inner cities, daily. You have a handful of another demographic that goes "apeshit", on occasion. One demographic accounts for the overwhelming majority of gun violence in our country, but represents a very small percentage of our population. The other demographic represents a small fraction of the gun violence in our country, but represents a large percentage of our population. IMO, in a country that has a population of ~330M and has ~350M legally owned firearms in the wild(these are .gov statistics, so it's probably closer to 350M and 400M), we have very little gun violence. And the vast majority is isolated to a handful of major metro areas. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:23:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally, thanks! |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:23:15 PM EST
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The Chief sure didn't know much.
Did I mis-hear, or does he think the mail lady was a mail man? oops- i may have just watched something from yesterday |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:23:57 PM EST
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Now it's working.
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:25:05 PM EST
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The Chief sure didn't know much. Did I mis-hear, or does he think the mail lady was a mail man? |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:26:47 PM EST
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The presser hasn't started yet |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:27:20 PM EST
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I accidentally watched something from yesterday. |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:28:04 PM EST
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Presser imminent....
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:28:13 PM EST
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After every one of these shootings people get on this General discussion section and don't admit to what's really happening they Pander and intellectually masturbate. We have a problem with white male Mass Shooters. Not to mention the opioid epidemic which is killing over 50,000 people a year. But I noticed people on here can talk about the ghetto this and ghetto that.?? Did you recently become a racist, or were you born that way? |
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:28:14 PM EST
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Fox news channel is live on this also
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:28:33 PM EST
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Here we go
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:28:49 PM EST
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here we go. its live.
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:29:00 PM EST
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:29:57 PM EST
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Presser: No motive at this point
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:30:55 PM EST
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People who show up at these things with loud ass camera shutters should be thrown out. The is no reason for them to have those there with the technology we have today.
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Posted: 9/1/2019 12:31:45 PM EST
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My bet is that he is actually Hispanic illegal alien. Hence why no name given.
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